ROTC Cadets caught neglecting the American Flag.

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:26:16 -0500

Our future leaders everyone!

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"These are ROTC cadets that just left our flag on the ground sitting in the rain. This old man who's a Vietnam veteran walked over and picked up the...

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2014 5:31 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:31:00 -0500

That's unsat, SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member. Maybe that Vietnam Vet can teach those young officers-to-be a little something about duty, honor, country.

Response by SPC Mickey Bennett made Nov 2 at 2014 11:46 PM

SPC Mickey Bennett — Sun, 02 Nov 2014 23:46:07 -0500

Operaton: "Wall to wall counseling" is a go!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2014 12:17 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Nov 2014 00:17:34 -0500

SO, this goes to ask....what are the current leaders (Cadre) teaching them? I know the PMS is a selective board, but the APMS are not, should they be?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2015 12:47 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 17 May 2015 00:47:53 -0400

Im glad I'm not in that PMS's shoes. If that goes viral on Facebook or YouTube he will probably be relieved. Those cadets are totally unsat. and should get counseling and demerits.

Response by SPC(P) Mark Newman made May 21 at 2015 2:12 AM

SPC(P) Mark Newman — Thu, 21 May 2015 02:12:50 -0400

Can we call it a teachable moment?

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Aug 29 at 2015 8:29 PM

PO1 Glenn Boucher — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:29:45 -0400

Very obvious that these idiots need to be reeducated about the flag and whoever is in charge of these dips needs a little refresher on how to be a leader.

Response by 1SG Cameron M. Wesson made Aug 31 at 2015 1:28 PM

1SG Cameron M. Wesson — Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:28:22 -0400

First of all... this is sad... and rather unexuseable... if the photo is the whole story.
With that said, look at the picture again.
Center appears to be an NCO... with a tower of power... before jumping to a conclusion that these are "cadets" that "don't have a clue" consider that what may be happening is that the NCO is prepping a plan to rectify the situation. Anyone ever hold the "garrison" flag... wet? That is not a task for a fire team...

My point is... before you offer a negative to a "snapshot" take a minute to gather some more facts. That means me too... cause when I looked I shook my head... until I blew the picture up a bit.

My 2 cents

Response by PO2 Michael Henry made Dec 24 at 2015 1:18 PM

PO2 Michael Henry — Thu, 24 Dec 2015 13:18:40 -0500

I vote for a week of BUD/S "Hell Week" as punishment for all those who knowingly and willingly disrespect the flag while in the military or ROTC/Academy. The catch is there is no bell ringing involved.

Response by LTC James McElreath made Mar 12 at 2019 11:21 PM

LTC James McElreath — Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:21:48 -0400

It is not wise to mistreat our flag. You might think you got away with something but quite possible that the observation you got will come back to bite you later. That person advises the cadre what you did might end your future at camp. Then again you just might receive the best ass whip pen ever. Too many people getting pissed off for mistreating our flag.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 29 at 2019 9:51 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Jun 2019 21:51:07 -0400

Just a thought, but is that ROTC's flag? The university's? Athletic dept? Im not saying ignore it, but if its not "your" flag, you're stealing something.
At my last unit, the reserve center was asked by Georgia Tech to provide sailors to hold the flag on the field during the national anthem. As I'm an alumni, I jumped at the chance. They waited until the last second to give us the flag, when we were on the field, and it was heavy (without being wet) and unwieldy. Took 30 of us to hold it dry (waayyy more then 4 kids holding it wet). And what if we had taken it off the field through all the underground, simply because the university/athletic department violated flag code? Headlines: "SOLDIERS STEAL FLAG DURING COLLEGE HEROS' DAY". "Yesterday, sailors and Marines from NOSC Atlanta were caught trying to remove the large flag from Georgia Tech's stadium..........."
Did I like seeing future Officers standing next to Old Glory, wet and fallen? No. But, a picture is not the whole story (Covington Catholic kids, anyone?).

Response by SGT John Ball made Aug 7 at 2021 12:06 PM

SGT John Ball — Sat, 07 Aug 2021 12:06:43 -0400

Time for an epic smoking!