CPT Private RallyPoint Member2101635<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Saw two guys in PTs at the DFW airport. I've never seen that before. Can you wear the Army PT uniform when you fly for personal travel?2016-11-23T11:28:31-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member2101635<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Saw two guys in PTs at the DFW airport. I've never seen that before. Can you wear the Army PT uniform when you fly for personal travel?2016-11-23T11:28:31-05:002016-11-23T11:28:31-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member2101648<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My wife and I landed at DFW, and I saw two guys in full winter PTs, minus the gloves and headgear. The first question I asked myself was, "Can we do that?" I've never seen anyone in public wearing their PT uniform. I've flown in Class As and ACUs before but only after I made sure it was okay. I just wasn't sure if there was any reg against wearing the PT uniform for civilian flights.Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 11:33 AM2016-11-23T11:33:35-05:002016-11-23T11:33:35-05:00Cpl Justin Goolsby2101649<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For Marines it's a no go. Army could be different, but I highly doubt it. PT uniforms are strictly for PT.Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Nov 23 at 2016 11:33 AM2016-11-23T11:33:53-05:002016-11-23T11:33:53-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member2101651<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No don't do it if you are going to be off post doing things the proper uniform would be ASU's. You should not travel in uniform.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 11:34 AM2016-11-23T11:34:16-05:002016-11-23T11:34:16-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member2101662<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't know if there is a specific restriction but I imagine there would be rare circumstances where it may be the only option. <br /><br />It would draw my attention but I typically have better things to do than run around the airport being uniform police.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 11:38 AM2016-11-23T11:38:04-05:002016-11-23T11:38:04-05:00CPT Laurie H.2101663<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Only ASU and ACU are authorized for commercial travel as of the spring of 2015.Response by CPT Laurie H. made Nov 23 at 2016 11:38 AM2016-11-23T11:38:23-05:002016-11-23T11:38:23-05:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member2101711<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Negative. ACU/OCP and ASU only.Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 11:52 AM2016-11-23T11:52:03-05:002016-11-23T11:52:03-05:00CPT Douglas Bryant2101735<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Bottom Line Up Front - NO<br /><br />This is from AR 670-1 Chapter 12–3. Occasions for wear. See Chapter 12-3 c (1)<br /><br />a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation,<br />unless restricted by the commander. Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off<br />the installation, unless restricted by the commander. The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an allpurpose<br />uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.<br />b. Approved wear. The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise<br />directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the<br />commander.<br />c. Restrictions on wear.<br />(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.<br />(2) Personnel may not wear a physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments that primarily sell alcohol. If the<br />off-post establishment sells alcohol and food, Soldiers may not wear a physical fitness uniform if their activities in the<br />establishment center on the drinking of alcohol.<br />(3) Physical fitness uniform are not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as<br />memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.<br />(4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform IAW paragraph 2–6c.<br />(5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.Response by CPT Douglas Bryant made Nov 23 at 2016 11:58 AM2016-11-23T11:58:03-05:002016-11-23T11:58:03-05:00LTC Jason Mackay2101821<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. full stopResponse by LTC Jason Mackay made Nov 23 at 2016 12:34 PM2016-11-23T12:34:13-05:002016-11-23T12:34:13-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member2101827<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They shouldnt be flying while in PT Uniform.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 12:36 PM2016-11-23T12:36:38-05:002016-11-23T12:36:38-05:00CPT Aaron Kletzing2101869<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>no no no -- don't do it. not authorized.Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Nov 23 at 2016 12:49 PM2016-11-23T12:49:17-05:002016-11-23T12:49:17-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member2101920<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. The only uniform authorized for leisure travel (unless it has changed since my last PCS) is the ASU.Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 1:06 PM2016-11-23T13:06:41-05:002016-11-23T13:06:41-05:00Sgt Private RallyPoint Member2101927<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As other have stated, the answer is no. When in public, we always want to put our best foot forward.Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 1:08 PM2016-11-23T13:08:44-05:002016-11-23T13:08:44-05:00SPC Sheila Lewis2101965<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoResponse by SPC Sheila Lewis made Nov 23 at 2016 1:24 PM2016-11-23T13:24:40-05:002016-11-23T13:24:40-05:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member2102008<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>here is the actual quote of the AR 670-1. Take special note to C-1<br /><br />12–3. Occasions for wear<br />a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an all purpose uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.<br />b. Approved wear. The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the commander.<br />c. Restrictions on wear.<br />(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.<br />(2) Personnel may not wear the physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments, unless for purchase of essential items (for example, gas).<br />(3) The physical fitness uniform is not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.<br />(4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform per paragraph 2–6c.<br />(5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 1:44 PM2016-11-23T13:44:55-05:002016-11-23T13:44:55-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member2102096<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No you can not.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 2:17 PM2016-11-23T14:17:52-05:002016-11-23T14:17:52-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member2102116<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You can't even wear them to the PX on most posts, why in the wide, wide world of sports would you want to wear them on a plane??Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 2:27 PM2016-11-23T14:27:32-05:002016-11-23T14:27:32-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member2102142<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>very good question thank you for posting this.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 2:37 PM2016-11-23T14:37:22-05:002016-11-23T14:37:22-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member2102165<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That's a negative Ghostrider!Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 2:45 PM2016-11-23T14:45:10-05:002016-11-23T14:45:10-05:00PO3 Donald Murphy2102230<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Its like asking if I can wear my pajamas to walmart. "Yes," but "why?"Response by PO3 Donald Murphy made Nov 23 at 2016 3:07 PM2016-11-23T15:07:00-05:002016-11-23T15:07:00-05:00SPC Erich Guenther2102353<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Also, just because others dress like crap in coach doesn't mean you should follow the bad example. If it was me the minimum I would go would be business casual. Old T-Shirts and ripped or worn shorts / jeans.......look like crap, IMO. PT or Gym gear should never be worn on a civilian plane by anyone, in my view.Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Nov 23 at 2016 4:00 PM2016-11-23T16:00:30-05:002016-11-23T16:00:30-05:00SFC A.M. Drake2102483<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoResponse by SFC A.M. Drake made Nov 23 at 2016 5:12 PM2016-11-23T17:12:29-05:002016-11-23T17:12:29-05:00SFC William Farrell2102889<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would you even want to <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="627242" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/627242-14a-air-defense-artillery-officer-50th-asg-hhc-50th-rsg">CPT Private RallyPoint Member</a>Response by SFC William Farrell made Nov 23 at 2016 8:08 PM2016-11-23T20:08:03-05:002016-11-23T20:08:03-05:00MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P2102918<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe it was because I was involved with SAP/SAR programs but ANY wear or display of military related clothing or items while traveling was considered an OPSEC violation. I think you probably could wear PT's while traveling but in this day of uncertainty, I certainly would recommend NOT doing so.Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Nov 23 at 2016 8:17 PM2016-11-23T20:17:10-05:002016-11-23T20:17:10-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member2103472<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would you want to wear a PT uniform to travel? Is my initial response. Heck to the no!!!!!Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2016 11:34 PM2016-11-23T23:34:09-05:002016-11-23T23:34:09-05:00SFC Daniel McIntire2104000<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No! Refer to CPT Bryant's entry (670-1 for further guidance).Response by SFC Daniel McIntire made Nov 24 at 2016 8:15 AM2016-11-24T08:15:15-05:002016-11-24T08:15:15-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member2104103<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Question should be why would you want to?Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 24 at 2016 9:03 AM2016-11-24T09:03:21-05:002016-11-24T09:03:21-05:00Cadet PVT Private RallyPoint Member2104839<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>ASU and ACU only no PT wear for planes and Air Force only service dress on plane unless your duty station requires you to be in ABU's when you get off the plane.Response by Cadet PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 24 at 2016 2:12 PM2016-11-24T14:12:45-05:002016-11-24T14:12:45-05:00SSG Trevor S.2104924<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I notice the real regulation answers already here there is another answer you should think about, OPSEC. If you advertise who you are and what you are a part of you become an easier target. Happy Thanksgiving.Response by SSG Trevor S. made Nov 24 at 2016 2:46 PM2016-11-24T14:46:35-05:002016-11-24T14:46:35-05:00SGT(P) Jennifer Brande2106589<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There are circumstances when it might be for whatever reason, but always ask!Response by SGT(P) Jennifer Brande made Nov 25 at 2016 9:54 AM2016-11-25T09:54:09-05:002016-11-25T09:54:09-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member2107162<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No! Hell, no! No flying in ACUs/OCPs... No flying in PTs... If you're going to fly in a uniform (which is discouraged) ASU's (As or Bs). Even that is expressly forbidden for overseas flights. <br />This is all generally speaking. There are exceptions to everything (some MAC flights, special situations, etc), but they've tightened up on rules for flying in uniform. Especially leisure flightResponse by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2016 2:19 PM2016-11-25T14:19:57-05:002016-11-25T14:19:57-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member2108329<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There's obviously a difference between "may you" and "should you". <br /><br />If you're a cadet, I'd reccomend you talk with your cadre who have more context on the situation (and you) than random SM's on the internet.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2016 11:55 PM2016-11-25T23:55:01-05:002016-11-25T23:55:01-05:00SPC Douglas Bolton2110530<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I asked a similar question about wearing my PT jacket to my athletic club while I worked out. Many said it was OK but I can guess that flying on a plane may be different. I had one high ranking official tell that the Army encourages it to help sell the Army.Response by SPC Douglas Bolton made Nov 26 at 2016 10:48 PM2016-11-26T22:48:17-05:002016-11-26T22:48:17-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member2112462<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoResponse by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 27 at 2016 5:12 PM2016-11-27T17:12:28-05:002016-11-27T17:12:28-05:00Cadet SFC Private RallyPoint Member2113007<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoooooooooooResponse by Cadet SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 27 at 2016 8:34 PM2016-11-27T20:34:40-05:002016-11-27T20:34:40-05:00PO1 Private RallyPoint Member2114241<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I thought that it was not permitted to wear any uniform while traveling (ATFP), unless stated on the orders.Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2016 10:22 AM2016-11-28T10:22:49-05:002016-11-28T10:22:49-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member2114723<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Here is a possible reason why they were wearing it; they are no longer in the Army.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2016 1:06 PM2016-11-28T13:06:52-05:002016-11-28T13:06:52-05:00MAJ Robert Wren2115510<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Although it is important that it is in the regs, IMHO the bottom line is that it shows a lack of respect and professionalism. <br /><br />I know it is common for people to wear sweats and even PJs when they shop, go out to eat, etc. But, I personally don't even go to the store in civilian sweat pants unless the situation is unavoidable (i.e., quick honey-do on the way home from the gym, etc.) ... but traveling in PT clothes now or when I was active duty ... wow!Response by MAJ Robert Wren made Nov 28 at 2016 5:18 PM2016-11-28T17:18:52-05:002016-11-28T17:18:52-05:00SGT Larry Holland2117013<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Also the guys you saw maybe not be military, but are wannabes.Response by SGT Larry Holland made Nov 29 at 2016 7:50 AM2016-11-29T07:50:35-05:002016-11-29T07:50:35-05:00SGT Larry Holland2117028<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In some states, there are military surplus stores where you can buy nearly all uniforms of the military. They may have just went & bought them because they wanted to serve but couldn't.Response by SGT Larry Holland made Nov 29 at 2016 7:56 AM2016-11-29T07:56:03-05:002016-11-29T07:56:03-05:00CW2 Private RallyPoint Member2117105<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unauthorized!! [Knife hand gesture]Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2016 8:42 AM2016-11-29T08:42:15-05:002016-11-29T08:42:15-05:00CW3 Private RallyPoint Member2117132<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I agree it is not authorized unless by commander.Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2016 8:53 AM2016-11-29T08:53:33-05:002016-11-29T08:53:33-05:00SPC Kevin Campbell Lopez2118349<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="198537" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/198537-cpt-douglas-bryant">CPT Douglas Bryant</a> Posted a pretty clear answer. The only case I can think of is if the Soldier is maybe in some sort of medical condition or hell, even quarters, while traveling.Response by SPC Kevin Campbell Lopez made Nov 29 at 2016 1:57 PM2016-11-29T13:57:53-05:002016-11-29T13:57:53-05:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member2119120<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't understand why they would chose to wear the PT uniform while traveling. Besides the fact I just received a security brief saying we should try and avoid traveling in military uniform because it makes us a target SMH!!! If they wear authorized then hey SMH!!!!Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2016 5:46 PM2016-11-29T17:46:36-05:002016-11-29T17:46:36-05:00CPL Private RallyPoint Member2120206<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would you that's too much hooah with some mental retardationResponse by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2016 5:04 AM2016-11-30T05:04:21-05:002016-11-30T05:04:21-05:00CPL Private RallyPoint Member2120207<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would you that's too much hooah with some mental retardationResponse by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2016 5:04 AM2016-11-30T05:04:26-05:002016-11-30T05:04:26-05:00SFC Scott Hudnall2136866<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe they were "Running " late for their flight?!?! ;) They were more than likely not active duty! Other wise they would have known better!Response by SFC Scott Hudnall made Dec 6 at 2016 11:06 AM2016-12-06T11:06:04-05:002016-12-06T11:06:04-05:00CSM Private RallyPoint Member2182077<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No.Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2016 6:06 PM2016-12-22T18:06:27-05:002016-12-22T18:06:27-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member2194060<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hey there Cadet MAJ wish you luck in becoming an officer and a gentleman. When I was in the US Army traveling through airports, you have to wear your Class-A uniform, period. Nowadays, I see soldiers with just their ACUs (BDUs in my days) in airports. So, why not travel with PT uniforms, too.Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2016 1:46 AM2016-12-28T01:46:03-05:002016-12-28T01:46:03-05:001SG Private RallyPoint Member2194064<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="54590" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/54590-1sg-jeff-bullard">SGM Jeff Bullard</a> I am curious why you voted this down, Sergeant Major.Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2016 1:58 AM2016-12-28T01:58:57-05:002016-12-28T01:58:57-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member2194066<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe they are the winners of the US Army Physical Fitness Test with a badge in addendum. Showing off their stuff, you know?Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2016 2:01 AM2016-12-28T02:01:56-05:002016-12-28T02:01:56-05:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member2200860<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wow! No words for these new generation soldiers. 7yrs as a Ds I know I instilled Army pride and regulations in my soldiers. Kills me to read things like this.Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2016 8:41 AM2016-12-30T08:41:43-05:002016-12-30T08:41:43-05:00CW4 William (David) Craig2277667<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it is pretty clear by Cpt Bryant response that it is against regulations to travel dressed in PT uniforms. When I was on active duty travel was in class A's, no exceptions. Of course, I see a lot of soldiers coming and going to oversea assignments in BDU's in ATL so I assume the rules have changed somewhat since I retired in 1987. Whole new world out there.Response by CW4 William (David) Craig made Jan 24 at 2017 10:05 AM2017-01-24T10:05:51-05:002017-01-24T10:05:51-05:00SSG Brian MacBain2280788<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I know this is little bit off topic, but at least most of you (pertaining to Army) did not had to wear the ugly color of yellow PT shorts that always splits the seams. Also, as <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="198537" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/198537-cpt-douglas-bryant">CPT Douglas Bryant</a> had stated for Army, AR 670-1 Chapter 12-3. For the other services, has their own regulations similar to the Army.Response by SSG Brian MacBain made Jan 25 at 2017 8:05 AM2017-01-25T08:05:21-05:002017-01-25T08:05:21-05:00PFC Timothy Ahern2323278<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't know about today's Army but back when I was in it WASN'T ALLOWED and you either dressed in civies or khaki's or class A'sResponse by PFC Timothy Ahern made Feb 8 at 2017 1:33 PM2017-02-08T13:33:46-05:002017-02-08T13:33:46-05:00PFC Timothy Ahern2323284<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That e2 would have lots of extra duty + article 15 and if it continued I would smoke them with a little extra pt. Until I got tired but I'm old school today they would probably get a kindergarten type time out in the cornerResponse by PFC Timothy Ahern made Feb 8 at 2017 1:38 PM2017-02-08T13:38:23-05:002017-02-08T13:38:23-05:00K Mac4180550<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My work has me in airports all the time. It is pretty common when kids don't make it through Boot Camp, they give them a set of PTs to wear, a ride to the airport, and a plane ticket home.Response by K Mac made Dec 3 at 2018 9:17 PM2018-12-03T21:17:17-05:002018-12-03T21:17:17-05:00SSG Jon Tielking4182362<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Could have been privates chaptered out of basic training.Response by SSG Jon Tielking made Dec 4 at 2018 4:23 PM2018-12-04T16:23:34-05:002018-12-04T16:23:34-05:00SGT Michael Hartman4182768<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Soldiers like this give the military a bad name. I hope they are harshly disciplined.Response by SGT Michael Hartman made Dec 4 at 2018 8:00 PM2018-12-04T20:00:48-05:002018-12-04T20:00:48-05:00SSG Jess Peters4182799<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only uniforms that should be worn on commercial travel are class A or civilian dress. In the distant past, we had the class B khaki option, which was preferable in warm weather.Response by SSG Jess Peters made Dec 4 at 2018 8:30 PM2018-12-04T20:30:15-05:002018-12-04T20:30:15-05:00SSG Jess Peters4182806<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Perhaps there should be a periodic class for personnel on the rules regarding uniforms. There have been many changes over the years. Most of my career PT uniforms did not exist. We did it in fatigues or BDUs and boots. Then came tennis shoes and T-shirts. Some updates can be covered in a classroom, as well as reminders. This could easily be handled at Company or platoon level.Response by SSG Jess Peters made Dec 4 at 2018 8:36 PM2018-12-04T20:36:30-05:002018-12-04T20:36:30-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member4182903<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Lol i cant rn Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2018 9:07 PM2018-12-04T21:07:39-05:002018-12-04T21:07:39-05:00LCDR Tim McKenzie4182963<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>These are good examples of stupid uniform rules. The average American would not even recognize a pair of military sweats. They would likely assume it was bought in a mall. I wore a flight jacket over navy sweats to a gym on NAS Oceana one Saturday morning at the Gym. (I still wear a high and tight and look young for my age). A Marine Gunny came up to me and told me that I was violating uniform refs. I wore that type of thing for 20 years when I was on active duty. Then I laughed at him and told him I had been retired 10 years. He thought he was older than me. I make sure to wear my jacket and sweats now every time.Response by LCDR Tim McKenzie made Dec 4 at 2018 9:45 PM2018-12-04T21:45:35-05:002018-12-04T21:45:35-05:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member4183085<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I must ask for clarification. Was it the old pts? Or the current ones? But really it's a no-go. 670-1 under occasions for wear. On top of that there's also unit and post memorandums at most places that restrict wear as well.Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2018 11:10 PM2018-12-04T23:10:27-05:002018-12-04T23:10:27-05:00HA Jace Gallagher4183719<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I never actually read the regular for the Navy, but all my commands told me to never wear them outside PT just to be safe.Response by HA Jace Gallagher made Dec 5 at 2018 7:51 AM2018-12-05T07:51:48-05:002018-12-05T07:51:48-05:00SGT Timothy Strashinsky4184053<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are they vets? Or are they the old marshmallow suits?Response by SGT Timothy Strashinsky made Dec 5 at 2018 9:52 AM2018-12-05T09:52:13-05:002018-12-05T09:52:13-05:00MSG Scott McBride4184614<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Don't know why our comrades ask these type of questions. Open the regulation and local unit policy on occasuims for wear. C'mon guys.Response by MSG Scott McBride made Dec 5 at 2018 1:16 PM2018-12-05T13:16:58-05:002018-12-05T13:16:58-05:00SFC Carlos Cruz4185132<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Chapter 10<br />Physical Fitness Uniform<br />Note. Authorized accessories are found in DA Pam 670–1.<br />10–3. Occasions for wear<br />a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. <br />Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. <br />The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an all- purpose uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.<br /><br />b. Approved wear.<br /> The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise directed by the commander. <br /><br />Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the commander.<br />c. Restrictions on wear.<br /><br />(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.<br /><br />(2) Personnel may not wear the physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments, unless for purchase of essential items (for example, gas).<br /><br />(3) The physical fitness uniform is not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.<br /><br /> (4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform per paragraph 2–5c.<br /> (5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.<br /><br />US Army Regulation doesn’t authorize shut abused by any Soldiers. The Army doesn’t grand Soldiers to travel in PT Uniform.Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made Dec 5 at 2018 4:04 PM2018-12-05T16:04:27-05:002018-12-05T16:04:27-05:00MSgt Blake Fairchild4185161<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Is that not what the acronym "PT" stands for?<br />PT = Personal TravelResponse by MSgt Blake Fairchild made Dec 5 at 2018 4:28 PM2018-12-05T16:28:33-05:002018-12-05T16:28:33-05:00SPC Karim Abdullah4186045<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Humorous story, many of the officers, from my unit (HHB DIVARTY, 5th INF DIV) returning to Fort Polk from NTC during one of my 3 trips there in 1985, were rumored to be on a civilian flight wearing...the Brown t-shirts and yellow PT shorts with socks and running shoes. Mind you there were NO pockets in the shorts back then and our E-8 operations Sgt was highly upset at the appearance of his junior officers. The regular guys E-7 thru E-2 returned on a flight a week later, however we weren't allowed to wear civilian clothing. As soon as we arrived back our Operations Sgt E-8 was still complaining about the appearance of his junior officers and their wearing of PT uniforms on the return flight.Response by SPC Karim Abdullah made Dec 6 at 2018 12:43 AM2018-12-06T00:43:24-05:002018-12-06T00:43:24-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member4186145<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’m guessing they didn’t get properly briefed the 2 mile course.Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2018 2:37 AM2018-12-06T02:37:09-05:002018-12-06T02:37:09-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member4186965<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Army PTs we’re authorized with civilian attire in an effort to boost enlistments. Typically the idea was to wear the shirt with civilian attire to promote the Army brand. I don’t see this exemplifying the spirit behind that decision . Then again the Army was trying to implement reflective belts in kinetic combat zones where snipers are known to operate so common sense isn’t always common.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2018 10:51 AM2018-12-06T10:51:03-05:002018-12-06T10:51:03-05:00SFC Harry H.4187142<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sure you can, it's called I'm ETSed and now a civilian.Response by SFC Harry H. made Dec 6 at 2018 12:03 PM2018-12-06T12:03:47-05:002018-12-06T12:03:47-05:00LCpl Private RallyPoint Member4187849<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Gentlemen. The Marine Corps adheres to a much higher standard.Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2018 4:10 PM2018-12-06T16:10:44-05:002018-12-06T16:10:44-05:00SPC(P) Mike Conley Jr.4187861<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was told before we deployed that no uniforms are authorized. You have to travel in civilians if it's not for official business. Don't take my word as fact though. That's just what our COC told us. I deployed with a brigade level element.Response by SPC(P) Mike Conley Jr. made Dec 6 at 2018 4:13 PM2018-12-06T16:13:20-05:002018-12-06T16:13:20-05:00Chuck Mabry4188011<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Seams to me that there’s a lot of posts on here that really seams so petty. Like this one, just to get a quarrel started?Response by Chuck Mabry made Dec 6 at 2018 5:12 PM2018-12-06T17:12:30-05:002018-12-06T17:12:30-05:00SP5 Gary Smith4188049<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So petty. This is why I retired at 24.Response by SP5 Gary Smith made Dec 6 at 2018 5:32 PM2018-12-06T17:32:16-05:002018-12-06T17:32:16-05:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member4188110<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why of all things wear the APFU? At least wear a good set of OCPs or ASU.Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2018 6:00 PM2018-12-06T18:00:30-05:002018-12-06T18:00:30-05:00SSgt Boyd Herrst4188291<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Kind of tacky also disrespectful Sir.. that like the “utility uniform”. Belongs at the Post or the base. Not at a public venue.<br />My personal opinion Sir.Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Dec 6 at 2018 7:00 PM2018-12-06T19:00:28-05:002018-12-06T19:00:28-05:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member4188402<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You know when are a young private fresh out of basic and you get the opportunity to wear uniform home to show mom and dad, cool. Why on earth would anyone want to wear a uniform during commercial travel? It just puts a target on you, “oh look at me I’m in the Army!” I like to blend in, but hey maybe that’s just me.Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2018 7:44 PM2018-12-06T19:44:17-05:002018-12-06T19:44:17-05:00SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales4188818<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Could be that both were coincidentally recently out of the Army?? LolResponse by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Dec 7 at 2018 2:54 AM2018-12-07T02:54:12-05:002018-12-07T02:54:12-05:00LTC Jeff Shearer4189650<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Zach I my many years of wearing a uniform the answer is simple, NO. I most cases in the units I was in would have been followed with something like, "hey tough guy pack your shit and find a new home"<br /><br />On civilian air craft I normally traveled in civilian clothes and there was a pretty strict dress code for that as well.Response by LTC Jeff Shearer made Dec 7 at 2018 11:25 AM2018-12-07T11:25:32-05:002018-12-07T11:25:32-05:00LTC Jeff Shearer4189657<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have seen a handful of guy get on contract AC or regular civilian AC from a war zone somewhere and wear camouflage uniform, never a PT. Most of the time I had to do with some kind of emergency.Response by LTC Jeff Shearer made Dec 7 at 2018 11:29 AM2018-12-07T11:29:22-05:002018-12-07T11:29:22-05:001SG Dennis Hicks4189672<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Any idiot that would wear a PT uniform or as I have seen pajamas on a flight is an idiot that will self correct in the career fairly soon. In the day and age of digital picture posting on social media there is always a chance their COC will fix this.Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Dec 7 at 2018 11:33 AM2018-12-07T11:33:21-05:002018-12-07T11:33:21-05:00Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen4190681<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To this old fa$& who couldn't wear fatigues off base the answer would be a resounding NO! Suppose this could also be former member of the Army who wore comfortable clothes, but the fact that they didn't think about what they were wearing probably shows why they are former Army.Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Dec 7 at 2018 6:54 PM2018-12-07T18:54:22-05:002018-12-07T18:54:22-05:00PO2 Roger LaFarlette4213412<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoResponse by PO2 Roger LaFarlette made Dec 16 at 2018 4:26 PM2018-12-16T16:26:56-05:002018-12-16T16:26:56-05:001SG John Highfill4231640<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I see a lack of knowledge for Army reg throughout these subject should be brought up during Sergeants Time or during small group leadership classesResponse by 1SG John Highfill made Dec 24 at 2018 7:05 AM2018-12-24T07:05:52-05:002018-12-24T07:05:52-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member4232491<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It just looks tacky to soldiers. Everyone else doesnt mindResponse by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2018 1:21 PM2018-12-24T13:21:25-05:002018-12-24T13:21:25-05:00CPO Jack De Merit4281010<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I can only speak for Naval personnel, but, all travel is done in the dress uniform of the day. It can be uncomfortable if you are flying from a cold climate and heading for Hawaii.Response by CPO Jack De Merit made Jan 12 at 2019 3:04 PM2019-01-12T15:04:19-05:002019-01-12T15:04:19-05:00CPT Kevin Handy4314493<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I saw Navy in their PT sweats strolling through the airport over the Holidays. Didn't think it looked appropriate or professional.<br />I remember when the new ACU's came out ~2005 and we were encouraged to travel in them as a way of getting the public exposed to the new digital pattern after decades in woodland camouflage.<br />I don't think the new PTs need to be shown off in the same way.Response by CPT Kevin Handy made Jan 25 at 2019 1:03 AM2019-01-25T01:03:46-05:002019-01-25T01:03:46-05:00SFC Marcus Belt4316376<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Many years ago after a long FTX at YPG my unit and I were sitting in front of the laundromat at MCAS Yuma in our PTs. After 45 days, everything I owned was not just dirty, they were funky. So a shower at the gym and a trip to the laundry in my PTs was more appropriate than blasting the fine people around us with 45 days of sweat and misery.<br /><br />The AR is authoritative sure, but seriously, another “soldiers don’t follow regs” thread?<br /><br />Ok.Response by SFC Marcus Belt made Jan 25 at 2019 4:37 PM2019-01-25T16:37:09-05:002019-01-25T16:37:09-05:00SPC Steven King4316588<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Might just be people not in the military anymore. I occasionally wear my old PT top out in public, especially in colder weather.Response by SPC Steven King made Jan 25 at 2019 6:03 PM2019-01-25T18:03:35-05:002019-01-25T18:03:35-05:001SG Private RallyPoint Member4317120<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoResponse by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2019 9:19 PM2019-01-25T21:19:59-05:002019-01-25T21:19:59-05:00PO2 Weaver Brian4317530<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ummmm. NO!Response by PO2 Weaver Brian made Jan 26 at 2019 3:09 AM2019-01-26T03:09:59-05:002019-01-26T03:09:59-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member4319019<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AR670-1 as of October 2017 and it has not been able to the only clothing not authorized for us is the pt shirt with civ clothing on post period had to deal with this while deployed with a few of my soldiersResponse by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 26 at 2019 4:28 PM2019-01-26T16:28:41-05:002019-01-26T16:28:41-05:001stSgt Private RallyPoint Member4320368<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I may be mistaken, but I thought the Secretary of Defense (Gen Mattis) issued an order that no military personnel were to travel commercial in any uniform type. However, even if you are allowed to fly in uniform, you have to look neat in appearance and project a professional look. PT Uniform may be appropriate for those who are just coming out of a hospital but their orders would need to show that.Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2019 7:24 AM2019-01-27T07:24:40-05:002019-01-27T07:24:40-05:00SFC Chet Crowell4322824<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess that’s their active wear!Response by SFC Chet Crowell made Jan 28 at 2019 7:42 AM2019-01-28T07:42:11-05:002019-01-28T07:42:11-05:00SGT Mark Seymour4323525<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That is a big negative. I can’t imagine anyone even wanting to wear PT uniform on a plane.Response by SGT Mark Seymour made Jan 28 at 2019 11:51 AM2019-01-28T11:51:25-05:002019-01-28T11:51:25-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member4323615<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Should’ve taken a picture!Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2019 12:22 PM2019-01-28T12:22:46-05:002019-01-28T12:22:46-05:00SFC Cj Thompson4323658<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes. 670-1 states the PT uniform is authorized to be worn in whole or in part while off duty.Response by SFC Cj Thompson made Jan 28 at 2019 12:33 PM2019-01-28T12:33:09-05:002019-01-28T12:33:09-05:00SSG Shawn Mcfadden4327112<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>HELL NO!!!!! Class A's, yes, BDU's, yes. PT's HELL NO!!!!!Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Jan 29 at 2019 7:08 PM2019-01-29T19:08:45-05:002019-01-29T19:08:45-05:00PO1 Voodoo Degenerate4329147<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They wanna be "that guy" so be it.Response by PO1 Voodoo Degenerate made Jan 30 at 2019 2:42 PM2019-01-30T14:42:07-05:002019-01-30T14:42:07-05:00PO1 Voodoo Degenerate4329149<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If they wanna be "that guy" so be it.Response by PO1 Voodoo Degenerate made Jan 30 at 2019 2:42 PM2019-01-30T14:42:50-05:002019-01-30T14:42:50-05:00Cpl Glynis Sakowicz4331059<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For a moment, I just sat here, and remembered my PT gear, and then I actually tried to place myself in a public setting wearing it. Didn't manage that, I literally could not get my mind to go there! Call it USMC training, or whatever you will, but if I'd been there, I'd have been the bellowing voice in the background saying "OH NO THEY DIDN'T!!!" <br />People have really got to consider this... only about 3% of the entire nation even serves now, and to them, each time they see someone in uniform, we ARE that service! What are grungy PT's saying about the Army? <br />Come on people, go Civilian if you have to be anywhere, Lord knows we did, because it wasn't even allowed for us to stop anywhere in our BDU, unless we were actually running out of gas or heading to a hospital for emergency treatment of some sort...Response by Cpl Glynis Sakowicz made Jan 31 at 2019 9:18 AM2019-01-31T09:18:33-05:002019-01-31T09:18:33-05:00CW2 Private RallyPoint Member4336660<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>By regulation, NO. But, did you asked then what happened? Did they lose their luggage and thats what they had on their carry-on? Remember, theres always a why, somethings strange, unusual or ridiculous, but always a why...Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2019 2:27 PM2019-02-02T14:27:06-05:002019-02-02T14:27:06-05:00SGT John Creager4344568<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If the are out of the military yes.Response by SGT John Creager made Feb 5 at 2019 8:35 PM2019-02-05T20:35:03-05:002019-02-05T20:35:03-05:00SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member4345550<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Short answer no, not ever, never, no. PT clothes is for PT. Unless your at the dafac or going straight home. <br /><br />Reserves can only wear pt gear at pt that’s it or go straight home. They cannot where at breakfast unless they are drilling on a post and use the defacResponse by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2019 9:01 AM2019-02-06T09:01:28-05:002019-02-06T09:01:28-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member4356095<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>UPDATE: In The EUCOM AOR a SM (ALL SERVICE) can not wear a uniform while flying commercially. Or off post for that matter so if they are wearing the uniform anywhere with out written orders they are wrong..if you need the reg I can provide it...just don't have it here atmResponse by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2019 11:12 AM2019-02-10T11:12:39-05:002019-02-10T11:12:39-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member4361108<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Were the 2 guys active duty? Did you ask to see their CAC? Did you ask why they were in PTs?<br />I live in the Hampton Roads area of VA, a heavy military community. <br />I constantly see uniformed service members in local grocery stores, and there isn't anything wrong with that. However, I have corrected a few of those service members in the store to fix themselves. One was a Petty Officer in the Navy, I introduced myself with a CAC showing rank and I told him discreetly to remove his cover... embarrassed, he thanked me... <br />That is a more recent incident, my Wife hates it when I look for an issue (that's the sergeant in me), but I tell her, it's the right thing to do. Integrity is what you do when others aren't looking - tell your soldiers to always do the right thing.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2019 8:58 AM2019-02-12T08:58:29-05:002019-02-12T08:58:29-05:00Rinz Augustine4397470<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That's how they dress you when you fail basic training and they are sending you home.They always use airlines and they do that because they have taken back your uniforms and boots and then leaving you with PT wear because you can't go home naked LOLResponse by Rinz Augustine made Feb 24 at 2019 3:18 PM2019-02-24T15:18:24-05:002019-02-24T15:18:24-05:00MSgt John Brazzle4402980<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Retired Air Force Veteran. What is a PT uniform. Never had one. 1965 thru 1990. Did I miss something? I'll have to ask my boys they're active Army 20 years CWO3 and 10 year E7. They might know. Go Air Force. HAVE A GOOD DAY.Response by MSgt John Brazzle made Feb 26 at 2019 12:48 PM2019-02-26T12:48:08-05:002019-02-26T12:48:08-05:00CW5 Private RallyPoint Member4447909<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Did you see them on a plane or just in the airport? There could always be reasonable explanations for either. It’s possible they were overnight at the USO for an extended layover. Maybe luggage was lost, ripped seat of formals, spilled coffee on formals, etc. Could be a dozen reasons why that was the best option. Always best to avoid assuming the worst right off the bat.Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2019 9:54 AM2019-03-14T09:54:45-04:002019-03-14T09:54:45-04:00SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member4451226<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Being the peanut gallery, I would have to say no - can't/shouldn't. There is a rule and a reg that governs that. I get being proud of your branch of the service, that part is good but aren't most of us still under FPCON Bravo? In my very humbled opinion, not that it's counting for much, doing that may as well be a bull's eye and make you a target? I know there is a reg that says don't do that. There really is no need to go against that reg and get all jacked up over something silly like that. We're always being told that this is not a best practice. No need to mess this one up for no really good reason at all because the following headaches that you will have later won't be worth it. Sometimes some people don't always think about these types of things like they should and could use a reminder.Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2019 12:18 PM2019-03-15T12:18:04-04:002019-03-15T12:18:04-04:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member4452116<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To be quite fair, AR670-1 only applies to soldiers. After you get out, you can wear your PTs anywhere you like. Maybe those 2 you saw where already done and on there way somewhere.Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2019 4:59 PM2019-03-15T16:59:45-04:002019-03-15T16:59:45-04:00SGT Juan Robledo4453041<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Much better to dress as a civilian then give yourself away in the event you are confronted by some lowlife and find yourself in a dilemma, I never encountered anything like that in my time in the military, but now days you just never know, but if your required to wear dress greens, or any other military uniform in our military branch then follow command ordersResponse by SGT Juan Robledo made Mar 15 at 2019 10:55 PM2019-03-15T22:55:31-04:002019-03-15T22:55:31-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member4453885<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>CPT Douglas hit it in point. Tbe regulation is clear. Howe6if they wore the top with civilian Jean's, it would have been ok. The Army sees that as advertising. <br />But full on IPFU, nah bruh.Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2019 9:51 AM2019-03-16T09:51:18-04:002019-03-16T09:51:18-04:00SGT Greg Cooper4458759<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My DD 214 says I can. When I was in, it was a No Go. Not everyone that wears Pat's is still in.Response by SGT Greg Cooper made Mar 17 at 2019 10:57 PM2019-03-17T22:57:09-04:002019-03-17T22:57:09-04:00SGT Nick Voelker4460549<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't know about personal travel, and doubt that's what those soldiers were doing. But, otherwise it can happen, and be legit. I had orders to travel in PTs on several occasions while I was assigned to the WTU. Maybe you saw a couple of broken troops that were headed somewhere.Response by SGT Nick Voelker made Mar 18 at 2019 2:16 PM2019-03-18T14:16:57-04:002019-03-18T14:16:57-04:00SGT Jonathan Maynard4470277<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You can find the old gray Army pt tshirt on the racks at just about any Goodwill store. If they would just go back to the old ugly banana suits, no one would want to wear them outside of LA Rams fans.Response by SGT Jonathan Maynard made Mar 21 at 2019 2:44 PM2019-03-21T14:44:44-04:002019-03-21T14:44:44-04:00SCPO Private RallyPoint Member4471566<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Seems inappropriate.Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2019 10:07 PM2019-03-21T22:07:53-04:002019-03-21T22:07:53-04:001SG Brian Adams4483474<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SureResponse by 1SG Brian Adams made Mar 25 at 2019 4:25 PM2019-03-25T16:25:01-04:002019-03-25T16:25:01-04:00SGT Paul Casteel4490809<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They were probably cadets going home from college. I've seen that a couple of times.Response by SGT Paul Casteel made Mar 27 at 2019 9:00 PM2019-03-27T21:00:08-04:002019-03-27T21:00:08-04:00CSM Julio Morales4589687<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That's the kind of Soldiers we are recruiting in today's Army. Sir Lack of leadershipResponse by CSM Julio Morales made Apr 29 at 2019 11:00 AM2019-04-29T11:00:36-04:002019-04-29T11:00:36-04:00SSG Hubert Stapler4596270<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoResponse by SSG Hubert Stapler made May 1 at 2019 6:01 PM2019-05-01T18:01:46-04:002019-05-01T18:01:46-04:00SGM William Gabbard4599952<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nope.Response by SGM William Gabbard made May 2 at 2019 11:42 PM2019-05-02T23:42:41-04:002019-05-02T23:42:41-04:00SGT Shane Serna4604174<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I see civilians and family members wear them every once in awhile. Heck I’m retired I might just go on post/base and buy some just to see someone cry about it. Response by SGT Shane Serna made May 4 at 2019 5:23 PM2019-05-04T17:23:04-04:002019-05-04T17:23:04-04:00SGT Kevin Taber4606881<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Jeez I remember when you could only wear class A's when traveling. And your shit had better have been straight Response by SGT Kevin Taber made May 5 at 2019 7:31 PM2019-05-05T19:31:15-04:002019-05-05T19:31:15-04:00CW4 Craig Urban4606967<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would notResponse by CW4 Craig Urban made May 5 at 2019 8:30 PM2019-05-05T20:30:51-04:002019-05-05T20:30:51-04:00SGT Stephen Jaffe4608115<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was in the US Army back in the sixties. Our pt uniform was the basic fatigues (bdus). Combat boots too. The army wanted their troops to be 'in shape' in a combat situation. When traveling off base, the uniform was either Class A (dress greens) or Class B (khakis). I realize times have changed, but there was a certain pride in being a member of the military. This was even in the sixties with all of the turmoil. Should always look squared away.Response by SGT Stephen Jaffe made May 6 at 2019 9:49 AM2019-05-06T09:49:10-04:002019-05-06T09:49:10-04:00SPC Chris Ison4614893<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have the following to ask:<br /><br />Were they actually traveling? Or were they picking someone one up?<br /><br />Were they actually ON active duty?<br /><br />These are question that have to be answered BEFORE one can conclude they are violating the rules.Response by SPC Chris Ison made May 8 at 2019 1:11 PM2019-05-08T13:11:01-04:002019-05-08T13:11:01-04:00SGM Mendel Ofman4623734<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is a free country dude. You can wear anything you want if it’s not offensive to the public. And if the air terminal has no dress code, why should anyone care. AR 670-1 is for wear of the uniform. Nothing to do with PT wear.Response by SGM Mendel Ofman made May 10 at 2019 4:14 PM2019-05-10T16:14:52-04:002019-05-10T16:14:52-04:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member4624734<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Plot Twist: They were both Civilians with no Military affiliation.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2019 12:53 AM2019-05-11T00:53:22-04:002019-05-11T00:53:22-04:00SPC(P) Warren Soriano4665503<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I first read this, I had to LOL. I know the PT uniform has changed considerably since I was in, but I immediately thought of the ever so stylish banana colored sweat pants that came up mid-calves, sweat jacket, and reversible black and yellow T shirt. I thought, "Why the H*** would anyone do that??" IMHO, they were lower enlisted trying to get over. No obvious identifiable name or rank. Comfortable traveling clothes. Were they wearing reflective belts, too? Definitely CP should have a talk w/ them. Do they still have CPs at airports?Response by SPC(P) Warren Soriano made May 24 at 2019 3:47 PM2019-05-24T15:47:52-04:002019-05-24T15:47:52-04:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member4720970<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Generally I would say no. However, there may be an exception. Are they picking up a SM who is just arriving from a flight and they conducted PT prior to leaving? Was the time frame close to PT hours? Could they have a legitimate reason due to timing to be in PT's? I would see it hard pressed but if the Commander allows it then they are not out of regards, if it's before the duty day.Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2019 6:15 AM2019-06-14T06:15:39-04:002019-06-14T06:15:39-04:00PO1 Milton Minier4722884<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What about the retired military. Is it a no-no to wear PT gear?Response by PO1 Milton Minier made Jun 14 at 2019 7:05 PM2019-06-14T19:05:52-04:002019-06-14T19:05:52-04:00SPC Matthew Hoffmann4733865<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Speaking for a security standpoint, why even travel in uniform. As a contractor, even when traveling domestically, I try to keep as low of a profile as possible.<br />As far as it goes authorization wise, no, absolutely not.Response by SPC Matthew Hoffmann made Jun 19 at 2019 2:17 AM2019-06-19T02:17:14-04:002019-06-19T02:17:14-04:00SSgt Chris Francis4739625<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nasty!Response by SSgt Chris Francis made Jun 21 at 2019 2:22 AM2019-06-21T02:22:45-04:002019-06-21T02:22:45-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member4747180<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Please tell me this is a joke. Out of all the things to wear they chose that. Were the making a fashion statement? They violated OPSEC, AR 670-1, and pretty sure Art 92 which encompasses a slew of charges. Just when you thought you've heard it all. SmhResponse by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2019 10:30 PM2019-06-23T22:30:26-04:002019-06-23T22:30:26-04:00MAJ T Ferris4747201<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. Definitely not! It’s bad enough so many travel in ACU’s.Response by MAJ T Ferris made Jun 23 at 2019 10:53 PM2019-06-23T22:53:29-04:002019-06-23T22:53:29-04:00Maj Bill Kostrub4753888<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’m not sure what difference it makes at this point. I see army personnel all the time wearing, I guess they call them BDUs, wherever they damn well please. I’m not sure what the genesis of this policy was, but it is completely inappropriate.Response by Maj Bill Kostrub made Jun 26 at 2019 10:29 AM2019-06-26T10:29:38-04:002019-06-26T10:29:38-04:00SPC Paul Davis4755728<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>First off .why would you ask a question like this? I'd hope you are aware of the ar670-1 manual? You're a leader and your troops depend on you, to have the knowledge & guidance you have been trained to do in ocs. I know I'm kinda harsh on the fact that you are a officer and I was enlisted many,many years ago . No one can know every regulation, not even the stars. But think about the situation? As an officer you are held in higher standards from basic to commanding troops .I'm sorry that I flogged you but back in the old army days lt & up where expected to know the easy stuff. Especially about the uniform.<br />Lead from the front! Never ask a soldier to do a task you can't or wouldn't do yourself . Your troops will respect you .<br />Now to the point! They are definitely wrong and they probably know that they are if they have been in service for any amount of time . <br />You are still my Army brother. Lol <br />Army strong 88-93 1/63 AR. Ft.Irwin Ca.Response by SPC Paul Davis made Jun 26 at 2019 9:51 PM2019-06-26T21:51:08-04:002019-06-26T21:51:08-04:00SFC Andrew Ormiston4759243<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They may not have been actually traveling. Unless you saw them boarding.Response by SFC Andrew Ormiston made Jun 27 at 2019 11:10 PM2019-06-27T23:10:09-04:002019-06-27T23:10:09-04:00SPC Raymond Hanley4760683<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is like yelp for the military Response by SPC Raymond Hanley made Jun 28 at 2019 1:04 PM2019-06-28T13:04:26-04:002019-06-28T13:04:26-04:00TSgt D Newman4762672<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Guess it depends what it looks like . Back in the day hell no. You'd have a better chance of people thinking you where Inna gay pride March than the military the way they designed those things.Response by TSgt D Newman made Jun 29 at 2019 6:40 AM2019-06-29T06:40:16-04:002019-06-29T06:40:16-04:00SPC Fred DeJohn4763280<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I say show respect for your uniform and and the organization you are a part of. That shows class not a non caring attitude. But hey That is just me.Response by SPC Fred DeJohn made Jun 29 at 2019 10:03 AM2019-06-29T10:03:52-04:002019-06-29T10:03:52-04:00SSgt Daniel Vallance4764244<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>These are the years of the MELIMENS so any thing goes. Remember it has been a all voluntary military since 1972.Response by SSgt Daniel Vallance made Jun 29 at 2019 4:04 PM2019-06-29T16:04:57-04:002019-06-29T16:04:57-04:00SFC Joseph Tidwell4764600<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Seems like someone that would do that has an extreme lack of discipline and the image they portray of the branch they serve. "Back in the day" we had to wear our class A uniform when travelling from or to assignments.Response by SFC Joseph Tidwell made Jun 29 at 2019 6:42 PM2019-06-29T18:42:29-04:002019-06-29T18:42:29-04:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member4766441<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a reservist local to the area I can say for certain some commanders have ordered soldiers to go to and from AT in the PT Uniform, I’m not saying it’s right, I’m saying it happened.Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2019 12:16 PM2019-06-30T12:16:23-04:002019-06-30T12:16:23-04:00SrA Brett Stratton4812541<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Active Duty is a hard no, but I can't say the same for those retired/discharged. Personally, I think that's in bad form either way since it implies you are active duty and sends a bad message to those who either don't know the rules or think you can make an exception.Response by SrA Brett Stratton made Jul 14 at 2019 4:38 PM2019-07-14T16:38:31-04:002019-07-14T16:38:31-04:00Maj Neal Jackman4836737<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my opinion, whether or not it is allowed is not the question. The question is "is it appropriate to wear the PT uniform when you fly commercially?". And we can substitute numerous occasions into the question. What is the image we are trying to put forward to the public? I was on a plane once where there were various service members, Army, Navy, Marine. It was an overnight flight and no one was feeling particularly "well turned out" when we got in. As I watched each service man walk off the plane, only one did this. A young Marine Lance Corporal got to the first row of seats, stepped into the space, set down his carryon bag, squared away his uniform, gig line, tie, everything, picked up his bag and stepped of the plane. I was so very proud of him. I caught up to him and complimented him on the image he presented to those we serve. Regulations may allow, Commander's may authorize, but what is it we present to the public.Response by Maj Neal Jackman made Jul 22 at 2019 12:19 PM2019-07-22T12:19:32-04:002019-07-22T12:19:32-04:00SPC Norman Graves4856167<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>id have asked first if they were in the military. lots of civilians seem to think military gear is sheaqResponse by SPC Norman Graves made Jul 28 at 2019 8:34 AM2019-07-28T08:34:56-04:002019-07-28T08:34:56-04:00LTC Ed Hammond4857483<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe they weren’t in the Army?Response by LTC Ed Hammond made Jul 28 at 2019 3:12 PM2019-07-28T15:12:28-04:002019-07-28T15:12:28-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member4860170<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>tackyResponse by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 29 at 2019 11:21 AM2019-07-29T11:21:12-04:002019-07-29T11:21:12-04:00CWO4 Steven Butland4860520<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Certainly shows a lack of self-esteem or any other regard for yourself personally, to wear such attire while traveling, especially on an airline, but without knowing for sure, if the two offenders were even active duty or reservist, we could be jumping to a wrong conclusion by assuming the perps were even such. There is no shortage of "wanna-be's" out there looking for military perks. Was any attempt made to verify their status and provided corrective instruction if they were actually in the Army? If not, you failed in your duty as an officer. I recall what appeared to be a new Marine at a rest area on Interstate 95 in South Carolina in organizational PT gear, traveling with family. It was a Friday afternoon, so he clearly could have been a newly graduated recruit out of Parris Island. I was in civilian attire, but approached the young man, congratulated him, and asked if he had just graduated PI and he confirmed he did that morning. I then quietly (so's not to embarrass him in front of his family) showed him my ID and advised him that his attire was not authorized for liberty and that needed to get into a proper liberty uniform immediately. He did just that! Advising him that he was always on display, on and off base, and needed to ensure he was always squared away in an appropriate attire at all time, is a lesson I don't think he will ever forget.Response by CWO4 Steven Butland made Jul 29 at 2019 12:59 PM2019-07-29T12:59:16-04:002019-07-29T12:59:16-04:00CW3 Walter Goerner4947339<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well LT, did you ask them? Unfortunately, for any military member doing that it's a break down of training and discipline. It's NOT that they didn't know, if they were military members, that it was inappropriate. Also, unfortunately, the Army PT uniform, can be obtained used or online for purchase and worn by anyone non-military and we've all seen some clothing worn in public that really pisses us....and me....off.Response by CW3 Walter Goerner made Aug 23 at 2019 9:37 AM2019-08-23T09:37:07-04:002019-08-23T09:37:07-04:00LTC James Townsend4952588<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a LTC when I left the military, as a 100% permanently disabled veteran due to injuries while deployed but even with 13 yrs. of service & I can't site any regulation that disallows this manor of dress while traveling but command has the prerogative to enhance the standard regulations. Even if their individual command didn't disallow this I can't image any service member, of any branch, not having enough pride in their uniform & what it stands for, to disrespect themselves & all other service members, traveling in such an inappropriate manor.Response by LTC James Townsend made Aug 24 at 2019 8:02 PM2019-08-24T20:02:49-04:002019-08-24T20:02:49-04:00MSgt Andrea Gutierrez4953513<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The answer is no, unless you are no longer in the (Army) military!Response by MSgt Andrea Gutierrez made Aug 25 at 2019 2:24 AM2019-08-25T02:24:35-04:002019-08-25T02:24:35-04:00Col Fred Mooney4953999<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They may have just changed temporarily to use the gym and shower in the USO there.Response by Col Fred Mooney made Aug 25 at 2019 7:56 AM2019-08-25T07:56:02-04:002019-08-25T07:56:02-04:001SG Cj Grisham4956612<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The answer is no, unless they were civilians.Response by 1SG Cj Grisham made Aug 25 at 2019 11:38 PM2019-08-25T23:38:17-04:002019-08-25T23:38:17-04:00CW4 Craig Urban4956617<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NOResponse by CW4 Craig Urban made Aug 25 at 2019 11:43 PM2019-08-25T23:43:16-04:002019-08-25T23:43:16-04:00CPT Eric Matheu4958320<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As long as they were wearing their reflective belts...Response by CPT Eric Matheu made Aug 26 at 2019 11:29 AM2019-08-26T11:29:58-04:002019-08-26T11:29:58-04:00CPT Eric Matheu4958323<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As long as they were wearing their reflective belts...Response by CPT Eric Matheu made Aug 26 at 2019 11:30 AM2019-08-26T11:30:38-04:002019-08-26T11:30:38-04:00CPL Matthew Stroup4968299<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Really??Response by CPL Matthew Stroup made Aug 29 at 2019 6:37 AM2019-08-29T06:37:52-04:002019-08-29T06:37:52-04:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member4969170<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are unable to quote AR670-1 verbatim, you don’t need to be on RallyPoint. Download the publication onto your phone for study and reference. Ensure to update.Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2019 10:23 AM2019-08-29T10:23:58-04:002019-08-29T10:23:58-04:00SP5 Joyce Eikenberry4972691<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Evidently, yes you can. Didn't used to be that way: if you flew, you had to do so in Class A or civvies.Response by SP5 Joyce Eikenberry made Aug 30 at 2019 12:03 PM2019-08-30T12:03:36-04:002019-08-30T12:03:36-04:00SGT Timothy Summers5078401<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hell noResponse by SGT Timothy Summers made Oct 1 at 2019 12:20 AM2019-10-01T00:20:26-04:002019-10-01T00:20:26-04:00PO1 Private RallyPoint Member5109856<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As far as I know the answer is no , But check you Army regulations in regards to uniforms Each branch has uniform regulationsResponse by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2019 3:37 AM2019-10-10T03:37:27-04:002019-10-10T03:37:27-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member5112823<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would someone want to do that anyway? Soldiers cease to amaze me and sad to say this doesnt surprise me one bit!Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2019 8:00 PM2019-10-10T20:00:54-04:002019-10-10T20:00:54-04:00CSM Private RallyPoint Member5119900<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hell No, you should call them on it. They should know this and their 1st line Leader should ensure they don't pull this kind of shit!Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2019 5:58 PM2019-10-12T17:58:38-04:002019-10-12T17:58:38-04:00SFC Robert Walton5193229<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Okay I am going to take the heat on this one and really don't care it needs to be said. 1LT. Zachary Allred. In no way is this intended to disrespect your service or rank. How ever after checking your profile with just your time in service alone you should know the answer to this and take appropriate action. As a PLT LDR You should know the answer and how to handle it. <br />In my time in the Military we had a phrase don't shoot yourself in your own foot. If you are not aware of a regulation by now then you should get that way. Posting a question like this on multi-media speaks volumes why two people were in the airport in APFT uniforms. JMTC Thank you for your service.Response by SFC Robert Walton made Nov 2 at 2019 8:24 AM2019-11-02T08:24:18-04:002019-11-02T08:24:18-04:00Sgt Bob Buster Adcock5196718<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I like to see servicemen in Class A uniforms when off base. In the sixties that was required.Response by Sgt Bob Buster Adcock made Nov 3 at 2019 11:40 AM2019-11-03T11:40:36-05:002019-11-03T11:40:36-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member5196794<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I posted this 2-3 years ago when I was still a cadet. I’m surprised it’s still getting this much attention. Thank you for all your responses. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2019 11:54 AM2019-11-03T11:54:09-05:002019-11-03T11:54:09-05:001SG Brian Adams5196796<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No Go....never! This uni is for PT only or otherwise designated by the CoCResponse by 1SG Brian Adams made Nov 3 at 2019 11:54 AM2019-11-03T11:54:36-05:002019-11-03T11:54:36-05:00Maj Dale Smith5219002<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Holy Crap Batman! Are you sure that these guys were GI? Not only is it inappropriate to wear this uniform outside of PT or your house, but if it were a civilian exercise suit, it would be inappropriate for an airport. If these guys were going to fly, a loss of pressurization in the plane, or a failure of the air handler system would subject the wearer to -55F temperatures no matter what time of the year. Other than command directives, common sense should prevail. Any component DoD servicemember should have taken these two asside and "informed" them of their duties, both on and off base. NCOs and Officers both should have said something and a junior enlisted person should have asked the question of the two inapproprately dressed. Something along the lines of: "Are you two actually in the Army?" with a follow up of "If you have any other clothing to wear on the plane, I would suggest that you change".Response by Maj Dale Smith made Nov 9 at 2019 5:55 PM2019-11-09T17:55:51-05:002019-11-09T17:55:51-05:00LCpl Stephen Arnold5239817<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Only if they double up on the PT belt!Response by LCpl Stephen Arnold made Nov 15 at 2019 1:50 PM2019-11-15T13:50:08-05:002019-11-15T13:50:08-05:00SSG Lynn Skocdopole5240263<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>i'll keep all this in mind when I get to your R&R center not to run around in my PT uniform so my seniors don't get heartburn!Response by SSG Lynn Skocdopole made Nov 15 at 2019 4:23 PM2019-11-15T16:23:49-05:002019-11-15T16:23:49-05:00SPC Donn Sinclair5390590<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hate to sound like an old fart, (I am, so I'm allowed). When I was in, a soldier going off post wore either Class A/B uniform or civvies, regardless where you were going. Evidently, after reading other posts, things have changed since then.Response by SPC Donn Sinclair made Dec 29 at 2019 8:08 AM2019-12-29T08:08:59-05:002019-12-29T08:08:59-05:001SG Donald Elmore5397259<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my opinion when flying a soldier should always be in Class A uniform.Response by 1SG Donald Elmore made Dec 31 at 2019 9:41 AM2019-12-31T09:41:55-05:002019-12-31T09:41:55-05:00SSG Branyn Burkhart5448791<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Was it two guys, or two Soldiers? Because two guys can wear whatever they want, but if it was two Soldiers, then that’s a no goResponse by SSG Branyn Burkhart made Jan 16 at 2020 9:48 AM2020-01-16T09:48:35-05:002020-01-16T09:48:35-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member5453094<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe something medical going on thereResponse by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2020 4:18 PM2020-01-17T16:18:58-05:002020-01-17T16:18:58-05:00TSgt Private RallyPoint Member5461106<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I was in, the PT uniform was just that, for PT training only. You could not go into the mess hall after workout. Now, they did allow going to sick call in PT's, but that was first thing in the morning.Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2020 10:26 PM2020-01-19T22:26:28-05:002020-01-19T22:26:28-05:00CPT William Hoh5461530<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You're assuming that the two people at the Dallas airport were in the military. I've seen civilians wearing those uniforms. Used to be you could buy them at uscav.com. they changed your name but I'm sure they're commercially available on the Internet. <br /><br /> From the break that was posted, it's clear they could not wear them if the military was paying for their travel. And since airplanes serve alcohol, they could not wear them on a plane. <br /><br />It's possible they were working out and running late for the plane too. I wouldn't dress them down without at least asking a couple questions. Most people in the military are good folks who try to follow the regs.Response by CPT William Hoh made Jan 20 at 2020 5:22 AM2020-01-20T05:22:50-05:002020-01-20T05:22:50-05:00CW3 Walter Goerner5464572<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Did they get on an airplane to fly or did you just see them at the airport? Wearing them to fly somewhere definitely no. However, I've seen occasions of personnel in PT gear, and have actually questioned them, that were called out to quickly go and meet someone at the airport to bring them to the post. That's exactly the case of the two incidents that I saw and both incidents the soldiers were called out from PT formation to go to the airport quickly to meet an incoming flight that there was a transportation problem at the last minute. Rare that this would happen, but due to those circumstances and time constraints, it could and did happen. But for personal travel? Definitely not.Response by CW3 Walter Goerner made Jan 20 at 2020 8:38 PM2020-01-20T20:38:24-05:002020-01-20T20:38:24-05:00SFC James Egan5543253<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess I am still the "old school". Civilian personnel expect military people to be proud of their military bearing. To my way of thinking only appropriate civilian atire or Class A's should be the ONLY appropriate dress in public.Response by SFC James Egan made Feb 10 at 2020 12:21 PM2020-02-10T12:21:50-05:002020-02-10T12:21:50-05:00SGT Jake Ellison5571278<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NoResponse by SGT Jake Ellison made Feb 17 at 2020 8:28 PM2020-02-17T20:28:11-05:002020-02-17T20:28:11-05:00PFC Private RallyPoint Member5571458<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The way I was always told, PTs are for PT only and training that requires that as a uniform. Other than that I’d never wear it outside of going to the dfac after pt like any other soldier would do.Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2020 9:27 PM2020-02-17T21:27:54-05:002020-02-17T21:27:54-05:00SFC(P) Richard Warren5574806<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I breath this as "Why in the wide wide world of Slap Pull Observe Release Tap Squeeze would you do that."<br /><br />Fundamentals, FTW! LOLResponse by SFC(P) Richard Warren made Feb 18 at 2020 5:42 PM2020-02-18T17:42:46-05:002020-02-18T17:42:46-05:00SFC(P) Richard Warren5574809<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Uhh... I meant "read". <br /><br />Infantry typing FTW? :/Response by SFC(P) Richard Warren made Feb 18 at 2020 5:43 PM2020-02-18T17:43:20-05:002020-02-18T17:43:20-05:00SFC David Pope, MBA5585030<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I see veterans wear PT's all the time after they are discharged from the army. My daughter wears the PT shirt all the time. It is not mine, and she was never in the army. If they are active duty then they are not allowed to wear it for travel.Response by SFC David Pope, MBA made Feb 21 at 2020 1:43 PM2020-02-21T13:43:08-05:002020-02-21T13:43:08-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member5585353<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How about look in the reg instead of posting so someone can spoon-feed you the information.. I'm sure you have a smart phone Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2020 3:30 PM2020-02-21T15:30:21-05:002020-02-21T15:30:21-05:00MSG Loren Tomblin5591179<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have always been freaked out at JROTC Cadets not wearing their uniforms in a military manner. I blame the instructors for not teaching pride. However, they are sometimes young and dumb. I can say that I am proud of my grandson because I mentored him in his high school years as a JROTC student. He is now an Infanrty/ABN officer with my old 25th ID. As for the subject matter just blame leadership.Response by MSG Loren Tomblin made Feb 23 at 2020 10:38 AM2020-02-23T10:38:52-05:002020-02-23T10:38:52-05:00SSG Robert Quayle III5591814<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If they’re civilians, there isn’t much to be said or done about it. I understand that the current uniform isn’t supposed to be sold but they’re easily found online.Response by SSG Robert Quayle III made Feb 23 at 2020 3:23 PM2020-02-23T15:23:43-05:002020-02-23T15:23:43-05:00MSgt Joseph Holness5593258<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>PTs on a plane? These days, people (way too many 30s t0 50s somethings) seem to think that wearing goofy pajamas out in public while doing their daily functions and routines is just "A-O-K". Guess I grew-up in a time where when you travelled on civilian airliners, you tried to look decent and presentable.Response by MSgt Joseph Holness made Feb 23 at 2020 11:45 PM2020-02-23T23:45:12-05:002020-02-23T23:45:12-05:00PO1 Michael Bruner5595174<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I used to see that all the time when I was living in Hawaii & El Paso.Response by PO1 Michael Bruner made Feb 24 at 2020 1:41 PM2020-02-24T13:41:24-05:002020-02-24T13:41:24-05:00Matthew Torrelli5601981<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>the uniform rule of thumb is just like it is for base and that is you should not be seen in physical training uniform outside of sickcall or Pt hours. when i was stationed at Ft. hood with the 1st Cavalry division we always got told to travel in civilian clothes and carry the uniforms but we were not authorized to wear the Physical Fitness training uniform anywhere other than base and or at a Company or Battalion gatheringResponse by Matthew Torrelli made Feb 26 at 2020 11:13 AM2020-02-26T11:13:45-05:002020-02-26T11:13:45-05:001SG Private RallyPoint Member5602487<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Total training problem, from Basic Training to the Soldiers command not putting out the information. Let's remember that no one should assume anything, put out clearcut guidelines and hold them accountable. Leadership assumes that this will not happen instead of touching upon it even if it is indeed repetitious...Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2020 1:24 PM2020-02-26T13:24:36-05:002020-02-26T13:24:36-05:00LCDR Private RallyPoint Member5604343<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Who cares. The average civilian in the airport has no idea who or what they are. They may not even be active military. Unless they are trying to defraud someone out of money (i.e. stolen valor) I could give a rats ass what anyone else wearsResponse by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2020 10:51 PM2020-02-26T22:51:33-05:002020-02-26T22:51:33-05:00SSG Shawn Mcfadden5674412<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>HELL NO!!!That is against AR-670-1!PERIOD!!Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Mar 18 at 2020 9:46 AM2020-03-18T09:46:19-04:002020-03-18T09:46:19-04:00CPT Derek Wren5675873<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They can, however they must have their headphones hanging around their neck along with incredibly bright neon shoes and or socks on, preferably both at the same time. And I hope you didn’t say anything because there’s a good chance you may have hurt their feelings.<br /> These are the soldiers you want to murder in public. That being said, as a CPT (ret), I will now move to the side and the NCO’s do their thing.Response by CPT Derek Wren made Mar 18 at 2020 5:52 PM2020-03-18T17:52:06-04:002020-03-18T17:52:06-04:00SSG Timothy Lee5677219<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Although most of you are correct about AR 670-1, some of you forgot the exception. Post Policy/CG policy letters as directed by the Post Commander. In which, I have been stationed at installations where the CG’s policy allowed the wear of the APT uniform jackets mixed with civilian attire in order to promote the U.S. Army.Response by SSG Timothy Lee made Mar 19 at 2020 6:47 AM2020-03-19T06:47:57-04:002020-03-19T06:47:57-04:00SSG James Wilcox5678833<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Because their DD214 approved it?Response by SSG James Wilcox made Mar 19 at 2020 3:04 PM2020-03-19T15:04:01-04:002020-03-19T15:04:01-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member5680224<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why the crap would you want to do this?<br /><br />I would've asked, out of sheer morbid curiosity!Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2020 1:21 AM2020-03-20T01:21:29-04:002020-03-20T01:21:29-04:00SSG Alfred Woods5687990<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, if you are an active duty service member, you may choose to speak with the individuals and see if they are actually active service members. If they are not, it would be safe to assume, they may have purchased the uniforms from a surplus store. If they are active military personnel, then it would be more appropriate for the most ranking individual on site (Lt.), to address the issue and explain the purpose of the PT uniform and it's wear. Keep in mind, a commander may not allow soldiers to wear the uniform as a all-time use or wear, when in the performance of official military duties (PCS or TDY). Behavior\Mannerisms reflects good or bad on the entire military and knowing what each commander would allow is something like a dog chasing its tail, to find out if these soldiers are right or even if they are military personnel.Response by SSG Alfred Woods made Mar 22 at 2020 9:08 AM2020-03-22T09:08:24-04:002020-03-22T09:08:24-04:00LtCol James McKinley5689198<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you're active duty you would know, and quietly admonish them. Otherwise, leave it alone. If this is the most pressing thing you have to worry about .....Response by LtCol James McKinley made Mar 22 at 2020 2:00 PM2020-03-22T14:00:49-04:002020-03-22T14:00:49-04:00SSgt Mike Finch5694114<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would you want to? Are you going for a run between terminals? Comfort? Why not just wear PJs or your yoga pants.<br />Call me a "boomer", Old School, or whatever - it spells Delta Bravo to me.Response by SSgt Mike Finch made Mar 23 at 2020 5:50 PM2020-03-23T17:50:16-04:002020-03-23T17:50:16-04:00MAJ Rj M5696926<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>From my perspective, when I traveled on active duty, it was always A's or B's. If I wasn't in uniform, I always got dressed up. Having gone to a catholic boys school and wearing a suitcoat and tie each day, I got sick of dressing up, but l learned from my parents who said it would help you and though I rarely travel ( I HATE TO) when I do travel, I am ALWAYS dressed up. You get treated with alot more respect and have been given upgrades on overbooked flights just because I looked nice...Response by MAJ Rj M made Mar 24 at 2020 11:43 AM2020-03-24T11:43:47-04:002020-03-24T11:43:47-04:00CPL Steve Freeman5719782<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Idk if it's against any regulations but Im pretty sure it violates man code. And looks tacky for travel.Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Mar 30 at 2020 1:19 PM2020-03-30T13:19:11-04:002020-03-30T13:19:11-04:00SGT George Reimuth5787907<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>it all depends on if you are on leave stats yes but if you have company orders no , those two guys could have been awol as wellResponse by SGT George Reimuth made Apr 17 at 2020 8:12 PM2020-04-17T20:12:44-04:002020-04-17T20:12:44-04:00SPC Mark Stevens5795759<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We couldn't do it in my day, either. Anyone who did was usually approached quietly by a senior non-com (odds are there is one either active or retired cruising through the airport for travel) and corrected.Response by SPC Mark Stevens made Apr 20 at 2020 7:39 AM2020-04-20T07:39:49-04:002020-04-20T07:39:49-04:00SPC Greg Campbell5859496<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>our PT uniforms consisted of whatever you had on stumbling down the street as long as you got to formation before Top came outResponse by SPC Greg Campbell made May 7 at 2020 2:32 AM2020-05-07T02:32:30-04:002020-05-07T02:32:30-04:00SPC Tony Pacheco5876004<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’m going to go out on a limb here.........<br />Maybe, just maybe, they got their walking papers and just said F- it. Response by SPC Tony Pacheco made May 11 at 2020 12:31 PM2020-05-11T12:31:44-04:002020-05-11T12:31:44-04:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member5880012<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would any of you care?Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2020 1:43 PM2020-05-12T13:43:04-04:002020-05-12T13:43:04-04:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member5890421<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>UNIT could be on the airport. My brothers unit is is on a airport in Austin and they always go and eat inside there after PTResponse by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2020 8:14 PM2020-05-14T20:14:04-04:002020-05-14T20:14:04-04:00SSG Jack Briggs5906153<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The post did not say they were traveling. Said he saw them at the airport. Maybe they were there picking up or dropping off a passenger. Too much judgement here without knowing facts.Response by SSG Jack Briggs made May 18 at 2020 11:46 AM2020-05-18T11:46:52-04:002020-05-18T11:46:52-04:00SFC Dave Nutter6085623<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>but those could be wanna be's roaming the airport stealing a little valorResponse by SFC Dave Nutter made Jul 9 at 2020 10:33 AM2020-07-09T10:33:20-04:002020-07-09T10:33:20-04:001SG Victor Sotil6085820<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely NO, however, think that could be stolen valor. All Soldiers knows very well that you can't even wear the APFU at the PX or commissary, so what in the world would anyone wear it at the Airport and top at the airport that has high visibility like DFW. STOLEN VALOR it's my opinion.Response by 1SG Victor Sotil made Jul 9 at 2020 11:36 AM2020-07-09T11:36:33-04:002020-07-09T11:36:33-04:00SFC Joe Ortega6087388<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I might be one of those "stolen valor". as far as I know the Physical Fitness uniform is not authorized for travel!Response by SFC Joe Ortega made Jul 9 at 2020 9:05 PM2020-07-09T21:05:32-04:002020-07-09T21:05:32-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member6089103<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>APFU are atrociously loud in every way possible. So glad I don’t wear those things anymore. I don’t know why anyone would wear them when not forced to. Sir, good choice on just leaving it alone. Had you approached them I’m sure you would’ve been cool about it. I’m willing to bet they were instructed to, given bad “intel” on the regs or just being shitbags.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2020 1:05 PM2020-07-10T13:05:13-04:002020-07-10T13:05:13-04:00PO2 Louis Fattrusso6105020<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This shows no respect for the military or the uniform.Response by PO2 Louis Fattrusso made Jul 15 at 2020 5:39 PM2020-07-15T17:39:29-04:002020-07-15T17:39:29-04:00COL Private RallyPoint Member6111585<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Once upon a time (Yes, I am an old Fart) you could not even wear the fatigue uniform to stop and get a loaf of bread off base on your way home. Now days, I see Generals wearing the BDU at gatherings of pretty high ranking civilians. The PT Uniform in an airport doesn't seem right to me but what do I know.Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2020 4:31 PM2020-07-17T16:31:07-04:002020-07-17T16:31:07-04:00SFC Michael Palmer6113933<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A little side story here on unauthorized wear of the PT uniform: my favorite sign when leaving a Forward Operating Base in Iraq (it was the north gate at Balad Air Base/LSA Anaconda north of Baghdad) was "NO APFU BEYOND THIS POINT". It was right next to the signs that said "IS YOUR CREW (IED jamming system) SYSTEM ON?" and "RED CON ONE BEYOND THIS POINT" (meaning locked and loaded)!<br />Let me see, some idiot thought "I'm required to wear body armor, helmet, gloves, eyepro, and have my weapon, but it doesn't say I have to be in ACUs!" <br />It's always some idiot who causes signs to be posted...Response by SFC Michael Palmer made Jul 18 at 2020 1:28 PM2020-07-18T13:28:31-04:002020-07-18T13:28:31-04:00PFC Joshua Hagen6150227<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How do you know they're Soldiers? I work armed security at a pot shop and see guys come in with dirty old PT shirts/shorts all the time. You can find PT uniforms at Goodwill and surplus stores, so I don't put it past some rando civilian thinking "oh these are comfy" deciding to wear it to the airport. Have you been to a Walmart...like ever?Response by PFC Joshua Hagen made Jul 28 at 2020 9:55 AM2020-07-28T09:55:44-04:002020-07-28T09:55:44-04:00CPT Bob De Groff6157609<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Oh hell no. I wish the Army would go back to requiring Class A uniform off post. The Marines do. Good for them.Response by CPT Bob De Groff made Jul 30 at 2020 11:24 AM2020-07-30T11:24:12-04:002020-07-30T11:24:12-04:00SPC Anitra Bailey-Bearfield6161594<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No you can't, you are not suppose to even be in uniform off post unless you are getting off duty and head home, being that you live off post. There was a time when you could wear your uniform like that but that change when I was in and that was around 1997 or 1998.Response by SPC Anitra Bailey-Bearfield made Jul 31 at 2020 2:00 PM2020-07-31T14:00:00-04:002020-07-31T14:00:00-04:00PFC James Edward VERNON jr6189632<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>BACK IN THE DAY (LATE 60s-EARLY 70s), NO PROBLEM. BUT THIS "MODERN" MILITARY , I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE.(NOT BEING A REGULATIONS "NERD")Response by PFC James Edward VERNON jr made Aug 9 at 2020 1:38 PM2020-08-09T13:38:50-04:002020-08-09T13:38:50-04:00SPC Chris Carter6190711<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I dont know but I have to say when I was in it was a no go for wearing it for other then PT but it seems like the new military is soft from the soldiers that i have talked to comparied to when i was in...Response by SPC Chris Carter made Aug 9 at 2020 8:58 PM2020-08-09T20:58:35-04:002020-08-09T20:58:35-04:00Maj Gary Gault6191193<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In the US Army I learned that there are different uniforms for various professional purposes. The PT uniform is meant for that only in or near the installation one is serving at, but not for general purpose civilian attire. When flying commercially or in civilian environs appropriate attire is expected, ie Class A dress uniform or casual civilian dress. Casual dress should mean suitable clothing for public areas, e.g. sport coat and tie or just slacks, shirt with collar or combination that looks good and suitable for mixed company. Sweats or PT cloths should never be worn in public as casual attire. Anyhow that was my training which I adhere to even today in retirement. God Bless America, the US Army and US Air Force and All of Our Troops serving around the world.Response by Maj Gary Gault made Aug 10 at 2020 12:50 AM2020-08-10T00:50:57-04:002020-08-10T00:50:57-04:00SPC W. Neil Cantor6191873<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Never had a PT uniform! Just OD fatigues and boots!Response by SPC W. Neil Cantor made Aug 10 at 2020 8:33 AM2020-08-10T08:33:53-04:002020-08-10T08:33:53-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member6191876<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You sure they were even active? Could just be civilians. Its not illegal to wear that stuffResponse by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2020 8:35 AM2020-08-10T08:35:14-04:002020-08-10T08:35:14-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member6192299<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That is a hard No!Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2020 11:21 AM2020-08-10T11:21:31-04:002020-08-10T11:21:31-04:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member6192307<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This thing is taking off again even though I posted it 4 years ago. Thank you for all of your responses.Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2020 11:23 AM2020-08-10T11:23:33-04:002020-08-10T11:23:33-04:00SFC Stephen Foster6193673<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’m gonna go wear it.Response by SFC Stephen Foster made Aug 10 at 2020 6:27 PM2020-08-10T18:27:48-04:002020-08-10T18:27:48-04:00Dawn Callahan6195990<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They wanted to preboardResponse by Dawn Callahan made Aug 11 at 2020 12:05 PM2020-08-11T12:05:10-04:002020-08-11T12:05:10-04:00SFC Steve Dugan6198810<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>there are times that I miss the days of old, pt's were for pt, duty uniform was for duty only, class b's for staff duty, class a/b for official travel--no eating in duty uniform in fast food restaurants, no going to stores and such in any type duty uniform. people complain about the rules now but have no idea how it was in the mid 80's and before--just started to change bit by bit in the late 80's early 90'sResponse by SFC Steve Dugan made Aug 12 at 2020 8:34 AM2020-08-12T08:34:31-04:002020-08-12T08:34:31-04:00SGM Markus Bertel6201811<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Per ar670-1 the Army physical fitness uniform is not authorized to be worn for commercial travel.Response by SGM Markus Bertel made Aug 13 at 2020 7:33 AM2020-08-13T07:33:36-04:002020-08-13T07:33:36-04:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member6205831<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My National Guard unit traveled from Georgia to Iowa on a chartered bus, for training. PT Uniform for travel.Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2020 10:44 AM2020-08-14T10:44:35-04:002020-08-14T10:44:35-04:00SFC Paul Whitfield6207444<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This question has been answered very clearly at this point, but I have one of my own: <br />How is it that a 1LT didn't know 670-1, or how to look in it?Response by SFC Paul Whitfield made Aug 14 at 2020 8:53 PM2020-08-14T20:53:37-04:002020-08-14T20:53:37-04:00LTC Andrew Addison6209312<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Cannot enforce "Army" Regs on civilians for wearing the "PT" uniform when they may have purchased them. If we are enforcing "regs" for uniform wear how will this be enforced on civilians for wearing military boots, camo pants, berets and so on...Response by LTC Andrew Addison made Aug 15 at 2020 1:30 PM2020-08-15T13:30:50-04:002020-08-15T13:30:50-04:00SPC Randy Torgerson6210737<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Do you know for sure it was personal travel? How do you know they were not traveling on orders?Response by SPC Randy Torgerson made Aug 16 at 2020 12:46 AM2020-08-16T00:46:50-04:002020-08-16T00:46:50-04:00SPC Donn Sinclair6305833<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've been out a long time. For example, our PT uniform was t-shirt, fatigue pants, and boots. Airports were patrolled by the Armed Forces Police. While their main function was looking out for AWOL's, they would also enforce uniform violations. Army personnel were required to travel in dress greens. During summer months, they'd let you slide wearing khakis. If you were in civvies, you'd better have orders. Anything else, you were taken in hand and your CO was called. I know things are different these days, but travelling in PT uniform? Beetle Bailey would know better.Response by SPC Donn Sinclair made Sep 13 at 2020 9:09 AM2020-09-13T09:09:23-04:002020-09-13T09:09:23-04:001SG Michael Blount6309400<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Bottom line is - no. I don't know where they got that idea, but they really need to brown bag it.Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Sep 14 at 2020 11:53 AM2020-09-14T11:53:31-04:002020-09-14T11:53:31-04:00SPC Joshua Dawson6325321<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well it's been twelve years since I was in and I know every branch has gotten even more relaxed since then but as far as I'm still aware the PT uniform is still not authorized for traveling.Response by SPC Joshua Dawson made Sep 19 at 2020 12:14 PM2020-09-19T12:14:32-04:002020-09-19T12:14:32-04:00MSgt Bruce Hutchinson6325903<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thanks CPT Bryant. When lever in doubt, go to the regs.Response by MSgt Bruce Hutchinson made Sep 19 at 2020 5:24 PM2020-09-19T17:24:07-04:002020-09-19T17:24:07-04:00CPL Patrick Holbrook6330438<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When in doubt Find an NCO to yell at them Sir.Response by CPL Patrick Holbrook made Sep 21 at 2020 4:44 AM2020-09-21T04:44:38-04:002020-09-21T04:44:38-04:00SGT Frank Hewes6333263<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think you can do that as a civilian with no class, and no respect for service members.Response by SGT Frank Hewes made Sep 22 at 2020 2:05 AM2020-09-22T02:05:04-04:002020-09-22T02:05:04-04:00SP5 Richard Welch6334965<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would anyone travel in PT uniform? This is not proper and never has been.Response by SP5 Richard Welch made Sep 22 at 2020 2:41 PM2020-09-22T14:41:00-04:002020-09-22T14:41:00-04:00SPC Chris Ison6338502<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You know it is possible they were waiting for someone.Response by SPC Chris Ison made Sep 23 at 2020 5:01 PM2020-09-23T17:01:40-04:002020-09-23T17:01:40-04:00SFC Clifford Brewer6346600<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I remember back in the day we were not allowed to wear pt uniform off post..in this Army time the reg. Is different.. it seen Soldiers do as they want wear what do want, I see some Soldiers out of uniform I wonder if they have leaders or orders to follow. I think the Army Soldiers is a little lack on Task and Purpose. One other issue is the new Army uniform..someone can not get the color pattern right.lolResponse by SFC Clifford Brewer made Sep 26 at 2020 7:20 AM2020-09-26T07:20:32-04:002020-09-26T07:20:32-04:00LT Scott Duncan6350347<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thanks for the proper response about wearing PT gear in public. Retired LTResponse by LT Scott Duncan made Sep 27 at 2020 2:26 PM2020-09-27T14:26:08-04:002020-09-27T14:26:08-04:00SGT Lee Drake6350863<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was always told no for a couple reasons. First, if you start acting like a jackass, it would reflect poorly on the Army. Also, for safety and OpSec reasons, you're supposed to be in civilian wear unless on official business. You never know who's watching and what they could do.Response by SGT Lee Drake made Sep 27 at 2020 5:45 PM2020-09-27T17:45:59-04:002020-09-27T17:45:59-04:00SPC Chris Ison6350989<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So it occurs to me that you are an actual commissioned officer.<br />Did it occur to you to introduce yourself and try and find out what they were doing?<br /><br />Or did it seem better to you to not use any moral courage, and then come to this forum, to ask a stupid question that you could have looked up in the 670-1?<br /><br />I give a lot of shit on this forum. But i really worry about the commissioned officer corps in the modern Army. Officers are supposed to be independent, self starters, who need little to know supervision.<br /><br />This is not the first time I have seen an officer ask a question that, with a little initiative, they could have answered on their own.<br /><br />The Army publishes every regulation, you might want to familiarize yourself with them, if you are going top be leading and disciplining men under your command.Response by SPC Chris Ison made Sep 27 at 2020 6:33 PM2020-09-27T18:33:47-04:002020-09-27T18:33:47-04:00SPC Carmen H Ramirez6396349<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wouldn't. I don't think so. If they have the sweatshirt and jeans I think that's fine. but the whole sweat suit is inappropriate. Maybe I'm old fashioned but that's me.Response by SPC Carmen H Ramirez made Oct 12 at 2020 10:13 PM2020-10-12T22:13:13-04:002020-10-12T22:13:13-04:00SGT Charles Clemons6441282<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe it has to be a military flight for PTs.Response by SGT Charles Clemons made Oct 26 at 2020 7:40 PM2020-10-26T19:40:20-04:002020-10-26T19:40:20-04:00LCpl Troy Gwyn6441875<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Marine Corps does allow that even just off base.<br />When I visit family in Colorado Springs, I can't help but think the Army and Chair Force are a bunch of slobs. To lazy to change clothes.Response by LCpl Troy Gwyn made Oct 27 at 2020 12:33 AM2020-10-27T00:33:21-04:002020-10-27T00:33:21-04:00SFC James High6443229<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. Here is the reference from AR 670-1: 10–3. Occasions for wear<br />a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an all- purpose uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.<br />b. Approved wear. The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the commander.<br />c. Restrictions on wear.<br />(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.<br />(2) Personnel may not wear the physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments, unless for purchase of essential items (for example, gas).<br />(3) The physical fitness uniform is not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.<br />(4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform per paragraph 2–5c.<br />(5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.Response by SFC James High made Oct 27 at 2020 11:37 AM2020-10-27T11:37:57-04:002020-10-27T11:37:57-04:00SFC James High6443231<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AR 670-1 states: 10–3. Occasions for wear<br />a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off the installation, unless restricted by the commander. The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an all- purpose uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.<br />b. Approved wear. The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the commander.<br />c. Restrictions on wear.<br />(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.<br />(2) Personnel may not wear the physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments, unless for purchase of essential items (for example, gas).<br />(3) The physical fitness uniform is not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.<br />(4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform per paragraph 2–5c.<br />(5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.Response by SFC James High made Oct 27 at 2020 11:38 AM2020-10-27T11:38:36-04:002020-10-27T11:38:36-04:00CW3 Joseph Lawrence6448389<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess there could be an argument here between comfort and what regulations would cover this situation. I can attest to traveling in a dress uniform (Dress Greens) at the end of the flight you felt like the uniform was glued to your body. As a Vietnam Vet, there were times we weren't even permitted to travel in uniform as to not upset other travelers. Later as more and more Americans approved of their military, I was proud to wear mine, wherever and whenever the situation permitted it. But when it comes down to actual comfort on the flight, I myself would choose the PT uniform. What still gets my dander up today, is when you see some dirt bag wearing a portion of the uniform that many have died for and that in itself should be a violation of law.Response by CW3 Joseph Lawrence made Oct 28 at 2020 8:20 PM2020-10-28T20:20:02-04:002020-10-28T20:20:02-04:00SFC Jeffrey McNamara6448927<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They might be veterans or retirees.Response by SFC Jeffrey McNamara made Oct 29 at 2020 1:00 AM2020-10-29T01:00:12-04:002020-10-29T01:00:12-04:001SG Jeffrey Mullett6451922<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No Sir, <br />According to AR 670-1 there are established times to wear the APFU, though in non-duty status you can wear the APFU Jacket or pants with other items of clothing. When traveling on duty status, you can wear the ASU (Class A or B), you shouldn't wear the ACU/OCP it has been authorized by DA for several years, but I believe they have moved away from allowing it recently. I think the SGMA will make a determination at some point. More often than not, civilian attire is authorized in order to keep from drawing attention to yourself while traveling. But, NEVER traveling in APFU as an authorized uniform in official status.Response by 1SG Jeffrey Mullett made Oct 29 at 2020 9:54 PM2020-10-29T21:54:45-04:002020-10-29T21:54:45-04:002016-11-23T11:28:31-05:00