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CPT Douglas Bryant
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Bottom Line Up Front - NO

This is from AR 670-1 Chapter 12–3. Occasions for wear. See Chapter 12-3 c (1)

a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation,
unless restricted by the commander. Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off
the installation, unless restricted by the commander. The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an allpurpose
uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.
b. Approved wear. The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise
directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the
commander.
c. Restrictions on wear.
(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.
(2) Personnel may not wear a physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments that primarily sell alcohol. If the
off-post establishment sells alcohol and food, Soldiers may not wear a physical fitness uniform if their activities in the
establishment center on the drinking of alcohol.
(3) Physical fitness uniform are not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as
memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.
(4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform IAW paragraph 2–6c.
(5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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I wear a suit when on a commercial airline
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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If I see stolen valor. I call the police
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PO2 Eric Lozaga
PO2 Eric Lozaga
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CW4 Craig Urban - This isn't stolen valor.
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MSgt Jesse Tiede
MSgt Jesse Tiede
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I returned to DOD as a Civilian Instructor, working at Lackland AFB, TX, back in 2006. I realize that times have changed, and us old farts need to move on, or die, but, some of the things I saw there, and out around San Antonio, where we have Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines, is simply incredible! There is a severe breakdown in discipline when off base. AFR 35-10 used to ban any utility uniform in any restaurant where you sit down, and have waitstaff serve you, but, that one must have been changed sometime after I retired in 1994. And, another thing is Professional Writing, such as performance reports and awards and decorations, and technical papers. I started writing those back in the late 70s and early 80s, and, I can tell you without reservation, had I used improper grammar, and wrong syntax and sentence structure, like I see in contemporary military writing, I was subject to censure by Command! I didn't go far in college, just Associate's Degrees, but I was able to Clep English, based largely on what I was taught by my supervisors! Most of the writer's today would never get past Senior Airman, if they had the same supes I did... Just sayin'...
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LTC Director, Us Army Physical Fitness School
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You can't even wear them to the PX on most posts, why in the wide, wide world of sports would you want to wear them on a plane??
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SPC Paul Davis
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SFC Joseph Tidwell
SFC Joseph Tidwell
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Some of you are really screwed up with you replies. You know who you are. Nuff said.
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SPC Andrew Murray
SPC Andrew Murray
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter more comfortable
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MSgt Jesse Tiede
MSgt Jesse Tiede
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I've seen Guard or Reserve OFFICERS and SNCOS walk around in stores, and parking lots with no cover. Guess once they get away from their duty site, Uniform regs don't mean so much anymore.
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Cpl Justin Goolsby
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For Marines it's a no go. Army could be different, but I highly doubt it. PT uniforms are strictly for PT.
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PO3 John Priest
PO3 John Priest
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SPC Underwood, that gripe of yours. perhaps while a silently popular thought amongst the ranks, is one that probably shouldn't be voiced. You've got to remember that some of those O-1 and 0-2's are a little on a powertrip, but there's usually a higher ranking person watching their interactions and commenting when the Performance Reviews hit.

I have had to deal with one or two of those "Swaggering Tin-plated Dictators with Delusions of Godhood" in my past, but I also note that the Senior Enlisted in the Division will take them aside and talk with them, and failing that use the chain to make things right.

At any rate, going anywhere in PT except to PT was a big no-no even in my peacetime stint in Pre-9-11 days. And except where advised against, you went in the appropriate dress uniform domestically and sometimes internationally.
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LTJG Sandra Smith
LTJG Sandra Smith
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SFC Steven Karoly - Yes, that happened, fairly often as Vietnam was winding down, and even afterwards; we wore our unis anyway. We, at least those of us who were volunteers, served so they'd still have the right to behave like rude jerks at home.
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LCDR Robert Russnogle
LCDR Robert Russnogle
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Somehow I feel deprived. I was never treated in any way but kindly in the airports on my several departures and arrivals to and from 'Nam. No spitting or catcalls. Didn't want to talk to anyone at all but still no opportunity to bust someone. I was after all a returning "baby killer"
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SFC Steven Karoly
SFC Steven Karoly
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LCDR Robert Russnogle - Consider yourself fortunate then. We were even warned by our CO's about the dangers of being in uniform off post. This continued through mid 70's as I recall. Some travelers did not have access to their personal clothing before traveling. I agreed with others in keeping a very low profile as not to draw attention to yourself. Sometimes the trouble makers would just find you.
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