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Bottom Line Up Front - NO
This is from AR 670-1 Chapter 12–3. Occasions for wear. See Chapter 12-3 c (1)
a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation,
unless restricted by the commander. Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off
the installation, unless restricted by the commander. The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an allpurpose
uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.
b. Approved wear. The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise
directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the
commander.
c. Restrictions on wear.
(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.
(2) Personnel may not wear a physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments that primarily sell alcohol. If the
off-post establishment sells alcohol and food, Soldiers may not wear a physical fitness uniform if their activities in the
establishment center on the drinking of alcohol.
(3) Physical fitness uniform are not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as
memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.
(4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform IAW paragraph 2–6c.
(5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.
This is from AR 670-1 Chapter 12–3. Occasions for wear. See Chapter 12-3 c (1)
a. All-purpose wear. The physical fitness uniform is authorized for wear on and off duty, on and off the installation,
unless restricted by the commander. Soldiers may wear all or part of the physical fitness uniform with civilian attire off
the installation, unless restricted by the commander. The physical fitness uniform is not intended for wear as an allpurpose
uniform when other uniforms are more appropriate.
b. Approved wear. The physical fitness uniform is prescribed for year-round wear for all Soldiers, unless otherwise
directed by the commander. Soldiers may wear the physical fitness uniform off-post unless prohibited by the
commander.
c. Restrictions on wear.
(1) Soldiers may not wear the physical fitness uniform for commercial travel.
(2) Personnel may not wear a physical fitness uniform in off-post establishments that primarily sell alcohol. If the
off-post establishment sells alcohol and food, Soldiers may not wear a physical fitness uniform if their activities in the
establishment center on the drinking of alcohol.
(3) Physical fitness uniform are not considered appropriate for social or official functions off the installation, such as
memorial services, funerals, weddings, inaugurals, patriotic ceremonies, and similar functions.
(4) Commanders may further restrict wear of the physical fitness uniform IAW paragraph 2–6c.
(5) The physical fitness uniform is not appropriate for parades, reviews, and ceremonies.
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SPC Chris Ison
SSgt Christopher Moore - Yes this is absolutely possible. It could also be a civilian who just likes the uniform.
It is still stupid to travel in PT gear, it makes you a target.
It is still stupid to travel in PT gear, it makes you a target.
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1st Lt Rick Gauthier
If they were meeting someone they would be outside the secure area. Only on the secure side are crew, other employees and passengers. It could be someone who has separated and is now a civilian. Unless they were traveling with others in uniform there is no way to find out unless you ask them.
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SSG Sylvester Cook
SSgt Christopher Moore - I don’t really consider the honorably retired as mere “civilians.”
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CH (COL) (Join to see)
There is an entirely unenforceable fine line for retirees (I'm one...36 years in). AR 670-1 only prescribes one uniform for wear by retirees...the dress uniform of your service era or the current dress uniform with the US Army shoulder patch on the left shoulder. Now, how are you going to enforce the wearing of PT gear, especially if it is not worn as a uniform if civilians can do so (you see them doing it all over the place). Personally, I wear my gray army PT shirt or hoodie, but do not wear the entire uniform (never like the shorts anyway).
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Suspended Profile
You can't even wear them to the PX on most posts, why in the wide, wide world of sports would you want to wear them on a plane??
CPL Joseph Elinger
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Only if ordered to do do. Simple security precaution. * Most Air Marshalls or LEOs also fly in their Civies.
Only if ordered to do do. Simple security precaution. * Most Air Marshalls or LEOs also fly in their Civies.
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CPL Joseph Elinger
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I'm an ex NYC, & remember the first time I saw "Obvious" civilians who like to wear BDUs. Hillbillies in Missouri.
I'm an ex NYC, & remember the first time I saw "Obvious" civilians who like to wear BDUs. Hillbillies in Missouri.
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CPL Joseph Elinger
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On a post like Ft Benning, it wouldn't be a bad idea since so many run from 1 place to another. To * encourage it.
On a post like Ft Benning, it wouldn't be a bad idea since so many run from 1 place to another. To * encourage it.
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For Marines it's a no go. Army could be different, but I highly doubt it. PT uniforms are strictly for PT.
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Suspended Profile
PT uniform is for excersice and PHA for National Guard units inside their Post as stated by their Commander. Nothing else
GySgt Thomas Lieb
Back in the day, if we traveled officially on orders we wore the seasonal uniform (Bravo or Charlies were acceptable) No utilities were permitted (even on CONUS duty, living off base, you could travel by car from base to home, in utility uniform, but no where else) I beleive we could (semi-legitimately) travel to new duty post in civvies, but hat to change to dress (A, B, or C) before reporting aboard
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1SG Ed Hewitt
GySgt Thomas Lieb - Army use to be the same way but that went to the wayside in the late 70's with terrorism on the rise...
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SPC Chris Ison
In the army the pt uniform is considered an actual uniform. I see people doing business in it all the time.
In the Navy, there was no formal pt uniform after boot camp, and you couldn't even wear dungarees off post. With some minor exceptions, obviously if you lived off post you could drive into work in them. If you needed gas you could stop and get gas; But they were not authorized for you to walk around the local grocery store on a duty weekend, and it was encouraged for you to drive into work in civies, and change in the locker room (everyone had a locker with there work gear in it). I would come to work in shorts and a white t shirt, and change into my coveralls in the locker room. I used a single dungaree uniform the entire time I was in the Navy (4 years). I only wore it when i stood watch.
If you were leaving post, and in uniform, there was a "liberty" uniform you were to wear. Generally it would be the working whites/blues. And you only had to wear your top three ribbons on the liberty uniform. Not that a dumb ass seaman had three ribbons :P.
In the Navy, there was no formal pt uniform after boot camp, and you couldn't even wear dungarees off post. With some minor exceptions, obviously if you lived off post you could drive into work in them. If you needed gas you could stop and get gas; But they were not authorized for you to walk around the local grocery store on a duty weekend, and it was encouraged for you to drive into work in civies, and change in the locker room (everyone had a locker with there work gear in it). I would come to work in shorts and a white t shirt, and change into my coveralls in the locker room. I used a single dungaree uniform the entire time I was in the Navy (4 years). I only wore it when i stood watch.
If you were leaving post, and in uniform, there was a "liberty" uniform you were to wear. Generally it would be the working whites/blues. And you only had to wear your top three ribbons on the liberty uniform. Not that a dumb ass seaman had three ribbons :P.
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