Second Job After Duty Hours

2014-07-10T17:48:47-04:00

I have a few Soldiers asking is it ok for them to get a second job after duty hours. Personally, I don't have a problem with it as long as it doesn't affect their current work performance or interferes with duty. I all about taking care of your family. Thoughts?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 1:54 PM

2015-09-30T13:54:52-04:00

Regulations say they have to ask the immediate commander's permission. Or at least they did when I was still active duty.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 2:03 PM

2015-09-30T14:03:18-04:00

When I was enlisted - a few moons ago, it wasn't to odd to see E-7 and below with second jobs. I remember being told if that was an avenue I wanted to pursue, I'd have to get my OIC's approval and I believe a counseling would be conducted - to ensure I knew what was expected of me at my "real" job. Like you said SFC Christopher Walker, MAOM, DSL, as long as it doesn't interfere with their current job (aka their "real" job), then I as a commander wouldn't deny them that right (assuming it's even plausible to allow them these days - I'd have to check with JAG first). I would also remind them that they're subject to recall at any given time and if they're working at their part time job...their civilian supervisor needs to understand that.

Cliff notes: I'd check with JAG before I gave them the ok.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 2:57 PM

2015-09-30T14:57:00-04:00

I would warn them about being stretched too thin. Also, financial counseling on how a budget and saving money could take up the slack. A penny saved is a penny earned.

Response by SSG R R made Dec 15 at 2021 6:20 PM

2021-12-15T18:20:08-05:00

The unit may have an SOP on this as well. You need to review those and see if there is a SOP on after duty hours employment.

Normally the units I was in only allowed up to a maximum of 16 hours of off duty employment per week and the Soldier had to submit a statement for record with the days and times of off duty employment. You were also required to notify the employer that you could be recalled at any time or may be late for the job as military duties came first.

I worked a 2nd job for a few months at one point, but honestly it was a real pain come tax time. I barely made enough extra cash to make it worthwhile.

In the end, it's your decision but definitely talk to your CoC to get their approval. In writing.... do not accept a verbal "Yeah sure". If it's in writing, you always have that as backup which really helps. Also, if there is a change in leadership make sure to talk to them about it, again... in writing.

Response by COL Brian McConnell made Dec 15 at 2021 10:43 PM

2021-12-15T22:43:13-05:00

Since we're talking about those who are staying on duty, I looked for ways to get the troops involved in post charities, planning unit parties and field trips into the local community (Bn Chaplain was big help here). NCO wives took over planning unit parties with troop elbow grease. Mission essential training was planned with the stay-behinds pressed into all the setup work ahead of everyone returning. This pushed junior troops into new territory which we found them welcoming the challenge. We allowed for personal time for letter writing, MARS calls and video calls.