SENIOR NCOs & PSGs: What qualities and actions do you look for in a young LT?

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:15:22 -0400

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 9:17 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:17:14 -0400

Listen to what I say

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 9:17 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:17:29 -0400

Humility understand that we are a team. Be willing to listen be willing to work hard trust me that I'll give you the greatest platoon in the company

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 9:19 PM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:19:50 -0400

Willingness to listen and learn from from your SNCOs. The ability to see the job from not only your perspective but of those you command.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Sep 23 at 2015 9:25 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:25:12 -0400

The ability to keep quiet until the LT understands "things". When he does, it appropriate to pay attention and to keep your Sxxx straight! I have memories of a quiet LT; only a month out of West Point who was so quiet! UNTIL ! PFC Bob Meredith soon learned!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 9:51 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 21:51:57 -0400

Willingness to listen and learn.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 10:23 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:23:00 -0400

LT, be open-minded to being mentored by your senior NCOs. Remembering that you still wear the bar and your decision is final. Don't get buddy-buddy with your enlisted troops. Bad things happen that way. Always remember that your humility, learning from your mistakes, and benevolent leadership will garner respect from your subordinates, peers and seniors. Don't get all doe-eyed and intimidated by anyone. We're all fallible. Put good leadership traits you see in others in your tool bag and toss the ones that don't fit you. Don't outright trust anyone. Your Soldiers need to earn your respect and trust as you need to earn theirs. Listen thoughtfully and be decisive without making snap judgments. Always use spell checker.
You'll do fine.

Good luck LT.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 10:26 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:26:39 -0400

Good question LT!!

My answer:
- work hard and serve others (servant leaders are infectious and become influential)

- listen to the Soldiers who do the job and support the mission

- be an example - don't fall into the lazy officer mode, (slacking in your appearance, physical fitness, etc). Soldiers are always watching and will hold you accountable to not what you say alone, but what you exhibit.

- stay close to your platoon Sgt, as his job is to mentor and advise you. If he is good, you will feel challenged to grow constantly. Understand, most PSGs have 10-15 years experience and you need that wisdom. Don't ever despise that!!

- don't ever adopt the island mentality (you need people to support and mentor you). The moment you think you are above reproach - watch out because your time will be short. Leaders must stay connected with people (soldiers). I have witness officers/NCOs get relieved with that type of approach.

Lastly, you will do fine LT. Taking the time to ask shows that you want to win. If you need advice reach out to me anytime.

1SG Narcisse

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Sep 23 at 2015 10:36 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:36:03 -0400

Listen... ears open mouth closed... learn all you can and don't be afraid to ask questions. Lead from the front... treat your people with respect

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made Sep 23 at 2015 10:36 PM

CPT Ahmed Faried — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:36:59 -0400

Good on you for reaching out for advice. Keep this spirit and you'll do just fine CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 10:40 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:40:13 -0400

Learn and realize that the PL and the PSG is a partnership. One should not see it as one outranks nor out experience the other. Also understand that combining the squad leaders and PSG, you have at-least over 25 years of military experience. Having said that, ask questions, listen and learn from your SNCO's recommendations. Your PSG will be your best adviser, they share your best interest which is "accomplishment of Platoon missions and the welfare of your Soldiers". You are ultimately responsible for the success and failures of your platoon. Once you receive all the feedback you need from your trusted NCOs, make your intentions clear. When the mission is being executed and supervised by NCOs; don't be afraid to roll up your sleeves and get dirty with the troops. It is not mandatory, but often respected.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 10:41 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:41:37 -0400

The relationship between a Platoon Sergeant and a Platoon Commander should be like a marriage; they both have to understand each other and work together to get the job done. It's the Platoon Sergeant's job to advise the commander and show him the ropes. It's the Platoon Commander's job to listen to what the Platoon Sergeant has to say, and make a decision based on the advice given.

A weak Platoon Sergeant is the biggest folly of a unit- it gives the commander basically free reign to do whatever he or she feels like doing with no restrictions. Conversely, A weak Platoon Commander can be sculpted into a strong one with a good Platoon Sergeant. It doesn't work the other way around.

Also, keep in mind that the billet of Platoon Sergeant is the most influential billet in the military- period; it is the only billet that places an enlisted rank as second in command- not even a First Sergeant or a Sergeant Major has that authority, because there is always an XO as second in command, and the Platoon Sergeant has the greatest direct influence on young officers.

All officers' careers are built or broken based on the performance of their Platoon Sergeants and what they bring to the table. Officers should review their Platoon Sergeant's backgrounds and reports and find out what kind of leader that Platoon Sergeant is; if he seems up to snuff then take a step back and observe and learn. If he seems like a weak Platoon Sergeant, don't try to fix him- that will only exacerbate the situation and make you look like an idiot... When you have been in for 10+ years you do not want to be corrected by someone that has been in for 2, it's just not going to happen. Bring it up with your superiors and see if there is somewhere he or she could be better utilized and look for someone with better management skills- just because a senior NCO or SNCO doesn't make a good Platoon Sergeant doesn't mean he is a poor warfighter, maybe he is just interested in turning wrenches or dealing with MOS related duties rather than accountability and administrative duties...

Response by SFC Terry Fortune made Sep 23 at 2015 10:43 PM

SFC Terry Fortune — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:43:38 -0400

Lt, everyone has given great advise. Listen to your SNCO's, set the example for your people and take care of them and they will take care of you. When you have to get on to them be honest and fair. Your SNCO will usually take care of the problem. But most all be straight with your people, if you BS them they can cause you a lot of headache's. Wish you the best, Sir

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 10:51 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 22:51:44 -0400

LT,
As my peers have said already, have an open mind. Get to know your Squad Leaders/section Sergeants and PSG. Get to know them. Study them at first. Learn there weaknesses and strengths and exploit those. Know what type of leader they are, weather or not they have solid integrity, are they honorable in your eyes, and there character. Meaning are they the type that yell, scream, stud at PT or in front of people, and then when no one important's around they have everyone around them do the work and claim credit for it? Is he/she the type that is well rounded that you can consistently count on? These are just a few questions you can ask yourself. I can go on for hours but I won't. You need anything LT feel free to message me.

SSG McMurtry, Jonathan P
U.S. Army Infantry

Response by SFC Stephen King made Sep 24 at 2015 4:58 AM

SFC Stephen King — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 04:58:44 -0400

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member the fact you are willing to ask shows your ability to listen. Be aware of others when making your decisions. Accept your responsibility and don't be afraid to make mistakes.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Sep 24 at 2015 7:39 AM

PO1 John Miller — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:39:11 -0400

Take care of your people!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2015 9:52 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:52:22 -0400

First and foremost....Humility and a willingness to learn.

Response by SFC Craig Dalen made Sep 24 at 2015 10:21 AM

SFC Craig Dalen — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:21:14 -0400

Some one who is willing to learn and operate as a team. The job as a Platoon Leader is a great stepping stone to the rest of your career so coming in with an entitled attitude will be the biggest mistake you can make. Hope this helps.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2015 10:45 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:45:18 -0400

The willingness to learn and be part of the team, as long as you want to learn from those guys, they will guide you, do not go there and try to act like you own the platoon and do what you please, remember it is your platoon, but they been there longer than you, the soldiers are loyal to them, just be a team player and learn. This is your time

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2015 11:03 AM

1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 11:03:25 -0400

Trust me. In my mind, if you fail, I fail.

Don't ever talk down to me. I have earned my place among Marines and will assist you in earning yours.

Tell me when I piss you off, it is not my intent to ever piss you off or humiliate you, but when I do I have a correction coming.

Hold me accountable, you can bet your ass I will hold you accountable.

We are a team. Never disagree with me in front of the troops. That is for behind closed doors. I will help you develop the plan, but in front of the boys, it is your plan and I am there to support you in implementing it.

Response by CSM Carlson C. made Sep 24 at 2015 1:18 PM

CSM Carlson C. — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:18:11 -0400

The ability to listen and the understanding that you do not know everything... Also, not being afraid to standup for your Soldiers. Its goes a long way.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Sep 24 at 2015 4:02 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:02:34 -0400

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What is the ONE thing EVERY young Officer must know? | RallyPoint

There's been quite a few discussions about how clueless young Lieutenants (and Ensigns) are when they hit the Operating Forces (and we often are). Here it is: your chance to publicly and permanently record the one topic you think is the most critical for us to know when we step in at your unit. With some luck, maybe those young officers will read it here and have the epiphany they need privately and everyone will be better off for it. So hit...

Response by 1SG Cameron M. Wesson made Sep 24 at 2015 4:20 PM

1SG Cameron M. Wesson — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:20:57 -0400

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member Be Trustworthy! The Army is giving you responsibility of America's treasure and trusting you to care for them. Maintain that trust and be loyal. There may well come a day when that collateral will need to be cashed out.

Love your soldiers.... more than yourself. Lookout for their welfare before your own. That will build the trust with them... be that servant leader that will make them not want to let you down when things are at the rock bottom... and they will be.

Listen.... the hardest of all the parts of the communications process... with all your being... and take to Heart and mind what your hearing... not what is said. That empathetic link will place you in the category of truly being a respected leader.

Don't be afraid to be wrong. That's what going happen... you will.make a choice and it will be wrong... so learn from it... and your PSG will help the education process to minimize those experiences. Remember... those experiences are the ones the your soldiers will watch... and see how you dealt with. They will be ones that define you.

Good luck and Charlie Mike

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2015 5:55 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:55:46 -0400

Willingness to learn, strong basic soldering skills, candidness with PSG, united front, no power struggles in front of Soldiers.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2015 9:18 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 09:18:10 -0400

I often work with ROTC cadets and always remind them to rid themselves of the common "new LT" sentiment that enlisted soldiers are only enlisted because they can't be officers. Never get caught up in the old aristocratic idea that officers and enlisted soldiers are different classes of people; it's not uncommon to run into an E-something that had a higher SAT score than their PL. With that being said - value the opinions and professional input of your soldiers.

Your willingness to reach out and ask for advice here tells me that you'll be just fine! Good luck!

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Sep 25 at 2015 11:45 AM

SFC Kenneth Hunnell — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:45:36 -0400

Learn the art of observation

Response by MSG Bo Lathrop made Sep 25 at 2015 3:29 PM

MSG Bo Lathrop — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 15:29:08 -0400

https://www.military1.com/army/article/647-dont-be-a-douche-15-rules-to-effectively-lead-a-platoon

'Don't be a douche': 15 rules to effectively lead a platoon

We've received more than a handful of emails from people asking us to post our thoughts on leadership – mostly from seasoned NCOs who want us to use our powers for good instead of evil (at least every once in a while).This is a tough one for us to write, because in some ways it starts with

Response by SFC Kenneth Highland made Sep 25 at 2015 3:45 PM

SFC Kenneth Highland — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 15:45:48 -0400

TRUST YOUR SENIOR NCO, THEY ARE THERE TO TEACH AND ASSIST YOU WITH BECOMING AN OUTSTANDING LEADER. AT FIRST THERE WILL BE SOME ROUGH PATCH'S AS IS ALWAYS WITH NEW RELATIONSHIPS. ALWAYS GIVE PUBLIC PRAISE TO YOUR WARRIORS AND HOLD PRIVATE REPRIMANDS WHEN NEEDED. THE PSG WILL GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE RANKS AND WHEN THEY FEEL READY THEY WILL HAND YOU THE KEYS TO THE WARRIOR MACHINE AND TURN YOU LOOSE.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Sep 26 at 2015 11:09 AM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 11:09:09 -0400

If a young LT can listen to me and others who aren't that far below him in terms of rank then I can work with any officer.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 12:01 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:01:51 -0400

Be willing to learn from your mistakes have a open mind look at how your decisions will affect those following you if your soldiers respect you and not your rank they will do anything for you because they know you will be there with them on anything.

Response by SFC Randall Atchison made Sep 29 at 2015 1:26 PM

SFC Randall Atchison — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:26:22 -0400

My father(retired E-9) once told me that the brand new O-1 is in the position he or she is in not because they know everything, but because they have the ability to learn! It is our job to insure that they are taught correctly! Always made sense to me!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 1:57 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:57:26 -0400

The understanding that your rank doesn't make you right, only responsible.

Response by MSG David Ammermann made Sep 29 at 2015 2:05 PM

MSG David Ammermann — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:05:55 -0400

Listen before you speak. The NCOs have been there done that. Learn from their experience.

Response by CPO Sultan Camp made Sep 29 at 2015 2:29 PM

CPO Sultan Camp — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 14:29:53 -0400

Great personality, business acumen, entrepreneurial spirit and strong record of developing others.

Response by MSG Douglas Tolliver made Sep 29 at 2015 3:12 PM

MSG Douglas Tolliver — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 15:12:06 -0400

The best quality I ever saw was one that was willing to listen and willing to learn. A brand new Lieutenant with no enlisted experience still has to learn the ropes and exactly how to get things done. Learning in school is fine but it doesn't always have practical applications out in a unit. That's where the experience of the Senior NCO's comes into play.

Response by SFC Jack Bennett made Sep 29 at 2015 3:58 PM

SFC Jack Bennett — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 15:58:37 -0400

Willing to learn,

Response by 1SG Harold Piet made Sep 29 at 2015 5:22 PM

1SG Harold Piet — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:22:52 -0400

Understanding that They are in charge, but they have no Experience, Me and My NCO's have the experience and given the opportunity we will train them and move this plt or company forward with group as a focus not individual as a focus. Without That Understanding they may move forward but it will be with rough and slow movements and may cost many dollars and troops along the way. They may fail. We as a group will not fail.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 29 at 2015 5:26 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:26:44 -0400

Open ear syndrome. If a young leader is afflicted with this infirmity they are ok in my book. I'm not suggesting that they take everything they are told as gospel, but as long as they weigh in the advice when they make THEIR decision I am a happy camper.

Response by SSG Stephen Kimball made Sep 29 at 2015 5:35 PM

SSG Stephen Kimball — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:35:30 -0400

As a retired NCO, I looked at a new LT to be learning and understand they are a generalist not a technician. You are trained in tactics; I in procedures. Learn from NCOs as they are your mentors from a troop leadership standpoint. They know your personnel. Learn from them how the unit performs their specific mission as dictated from SOPs and operations manuals.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 6:11 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:11:37 -0400

The Army Train is yours LT, I lead, train, and mentor the warriors on this train. You plot the course and it will get us close to victory without magic. " You and I have a rendezvous with destiny to keep it running for the American people"

Response by MSgt Stephen Watson made Sep 29 at 2015 6:14 PM

MSgt Stephen Watson — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:14:46 -0400

Ears and eyes open, mouth shut. Attach yourself to a senior NCO or SNCO and learn, especially in regards to your assigned MOS. Once you have been attached to your unit for 3-6 months and knw your job as well as your men, assume the leadership role.

Response by Sgt Andrew Zapf made Sep 29 at 2015 6:16 PM

Sgt Andrew Zapf — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:16:07 -0400

I can say from experiance when I was a young Cpl. I was also an RTO. When a fresh LT comes into the fleet a Marine like myself looks for an open midset. Being an officer you make choices hard choices at times. Sometimes especially being an infantry marine those command decisions cost lives. When you get to your unit and are new. Instill your training and always remember your 14 leadership traits and priciples. Know your men and look out for their welfare. Even though your an officer you still put your uniform the same as the rest of us. My Plt commander looked like he was 17 coming to fleet. Many of us enlisted already completed 3 combat missions during the war in its beginning. My job as an RTO and 203 gunner I had to watch his six and my Ssgt at the time did the same. The platoon as a whole accepted him as our brother we did what he asked no questions asked. My job was to carry a radio but also protect him. I realize now when I was in that slot or job. I like him was a number one target. Battle hardened me. Officers coming green in any mos owe their experiance of that brother hood to NCO'S and Staff NCO'S. We are a team and work together to do one thing. Complete the mission. In combat rank and all that goes out the door. We are men equal in our purpose. We feed off of one another to stay motivated. Stay Oscar mike. Promote me on gofundme.com/andrewz245 and support Andy stumpf a former Navy Seal raise funds and motivate him to make his world record happen. Semper Fi brothers and sisters

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 6:20 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:20:11 -0400

Be genuinely selfless, be consistent in all of your actions, be open to learning from the enlisted men around you E-1 thru E-9. And for the love of God maintain a healthy sense of humor.
MSG, 10th SFG (A)

Response by SFC Robert Pearson -SFCPearson made Sep 29 at 2015 6:36 PM

SFC Robert Pearson -SFCPearson — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:36:15 -0400

One that is willing to lead from the front and work with, not against the PLT SGT.

Response by SSgt Tom Barr made Sep 29 at 2015 6:51 PM

SSgt Tom Barr — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:51:57 -0400

Humility, strong communication skills, compassion, competency.

Response by PO2 Kyle Badstibner made Sep 29 at 2015 7:08 PM

PO2 Kyle Badstibner — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:08:52 -0400

Absolute consistency, and jesus christ we all know you want to move up the ladder but throw your troops a bone every once in awhile and we'll take care of you in the long run. If your superior gives you a shit task to pass on to your troops break out the elbow grease and stand beside them doing it.

Response by SFC Richard Browne made Sep 29 at 2015 7:52 PM

SFC Richard Browne — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:52:19 -0400

Willingness to learn and acknowledge that OCS/ROTC/The Academy did not provide you with all the tools you will need. Trust your Platoon Sergeant ... if he is worth his salt, he wants you to succeed, because you take a load off his shoulders. Learn (quickly) when to walk away and let the NCOs do their jobs. It may not always be what you were taught in school, but usually, if it works and accomplishes the mission, then the NCOs have more experience than you do. At the same time, don't be afraid to voice concerns to your SNCO and NCOs ... if you have a question, ask it. They will quickly realize that you are on their side and not just there for yourself. Your job is to deal with planning and resources ... you take the case to Company and Battalion. Do not be afraid to fight for your platoon's needs ... You are not there to learn the snuffies' jobs or to play ... you are there to lead and help your NCOs train them for that day when all their skills will have to be put on the line to save not only your life, but theirs as well.

Response by SP5 John Pratt made Sep 29 at 2015 8:05 PM

SP5 John Pratt — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:05:02 -0400

Make sure you listen to your men because they may just have more experience than you, especially in combat situations. In Viet Nam there too many green LT's that thought they knew it all and only got themelves and their men into situations that had disastrous results.

Respect has to be earned not demanded. Also remember the saying, "Praise in public, reprimand in private."

Response by SSG Benny Stewart made Sep 29 at 2015 9:18 PM

SSG Benny Stewart — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 21:18:24 -0400

one that is willing to learn as well as teach..and ready to accept the duty as a team not a boss or one who thinks it his way or no way he must use his team because we have each other 6 that is our duty as a platoon and a Great leader to do the job...

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 9:35 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 21:35:25 -0400

I look for a LT that is willing to listen and understand that he or she may be an officer and we will do what it is that they want us to do, however we have probably have a lot of experience that can make their lives much easier.

Response by SSG Gregg Mourizen made Sep 29 at 2015 10:10 PM

SSG Gregg Mourizen — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:10:43 -0400

The ability to listen, understand and follow the advice of his NCO's Getting a degree and going to OCS does not make a leader. The ability to learn from ones peers and subordinates is essential to any good leader. Remember that any leader is only as good as the men and women who follow him. If you take care of your people, they will take care of you. If you don't, then everyone will end up paying the price.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 10:36 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:36:50 -0400

Someone who is teachable and doesn't act like they know everything. Most may be book smart but it really doesn't apply much in a real unit. Just be open with your PSG.

Response by 1SG Robert Bodeman made Sep 29 at 2015 10:59 PM

1SG Robert Bodeman — Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:59:20 -0400

DEPENDING ON THE YOUNG LT. M.O.S. - PICK MY M.O.S. 63 SERIES, AS MOTORSGT, I LOOK TO TRAIN MY NEW LT IN PAPERWORK, BUT WHAT GOOD IS HE IF HE IS ALWAYS IN THE OFFICE, MEETINGS, OR HANGING OUT WITH OTHER OFFICERS, SO I TELL HIM THAT I WILL TEAM HIM UP WITH MY LOWER SOLDIERS AND WORK HIS WAY UP, ISSUE HIM COVERALLS, THEN I HAVE HIM WORK AND LEARN WHAT MY MECHANICS DO, ENGINE WORK, ELECTRICAL, HYDRAULICS, RECOVERY, POWER PACK REMOVAL, REPLACEMENT, YES HE WILL LEARN EVERY POSITION THAT INCLUDES MY JOB, BUT HE WON'T GET TO MY DESK UNTIL HE PROVES HIS WORTH IN WHAT HAS BEEN TAUGHT TO HIM, HE WILL WORK INTO THE NIGHT, IN THE COLD, RAIN, MOONLIGHT HOURS WITH THE OTHER MECHANICS, I WANT HIM WHEN POSSIBLE WHEN HE DOES GO TO MEETINGS THAT MECHANICS HAS A VOICE, I WANT TO KNOW HE KNOWS EVERY ASPECT THAT DETAILS WHAT IS INVOLVED IN WORKING AS A MECHANIC, HELP THE YOUNG OFFICER RIGHT, IT WILL BE A GREAT DESASTER AND DISSERVICE TO HIM OR HER IF YOU FAIL YOUR OFFICER, GIVE THEM THE TOOLS YOU WERTE TAUGHT, YOUR MIND, YES YOU MAY THINK YOU CAN NOT TEACH SOMEONE WHO WENT TO COLLEGE, WRONG!!! WHAT YOU KNOW CAN TEACH SOMEONE A NEW TRICK, OR HELP THE LT UNDERSTAND, A YOUNG MECHANIC LEARNS FROM A DASH 10, THEN 20, THEN 30 AND SO ON, IF YOU TEACH A LT FROM THE TOP, YOU JUST RUINED THE GOLDEN OPPERTUNITY TO HELP HIM GROW - PLEASE TEACH HIM OR HER RIGHT // ALLONS

Response by MSgt Mike Horn made Sep 30 at 2015 3:55 AM

MSgt Mike Horn — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 03:55:45 -0400

Understand that a young lt is given to the MSgt to train him. Just like we train the troops. We are not herebto let either fail if you listen and try. But if you insist that you know everything, we will sit back and laugh while you put it in the bleachers and screw yourself if you refuse to listen

Response by SFC Thomas Ceja made Sep 30 at 2015 5:33 AM

SFC Thomas Ceja — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 05:33:36 -0400

First of all 2nd LT Everett, your willingness to come to a forum such as this and ask that question in my opinion says a-lot about your character, kudos. One word (Attentive) listen to your NCO's they already know you're in charge, don't rub it in their face.
Secondly don't be that guy... That comes in knowing everything because you don't, most of the Soldiers that you will be in charge of are already veterans and you can learn a-lot by just listening to and accepting their advice! Your NCO's and especially your PLT Sergeant will guide and teach you how to become a good LT and Officer. After all, most of the Schools/Training that you will go through up until the time you go to the Command and General Staff College, (should you stay in that long), will be taught by NCO's.
Lastly in my humble opinion. Lead from the front don't ask your Soldiers to do anything that you wouldn't do yourself, don't be afraid to get your hands dirty and be confident.

Good luck sir and thank you for your service!

Response by SSG Don Maggart made Sep 30 at 2015 7:31 AM

SSG Don Maggart — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:31:35 -0400

A mouldable brain....laffs and a bendable will, a strong desire to do bad for good reasons....

Response by SFC Ethan Graves made Sep 30 at 2015 7:36 AM

SFC Ethan Graves — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:36:13 -0400

I always thought the best 2LTs were the ones that listened and involved their platoon sergeants. Remember, you do out rank your PSG but he has several years of experience that is priceless. You and the PSG are supposed to be a team. If you are ever in disagreement, don't have that discussion in front of the troops. Handle that behind closed doors. If you don't, it will lead to leadership concerns from the troops. Just as an NCO has to respect "Officer business" you need to remember to respect "NCO business". It's all one team and you support your PSG as he will support you. Make sure to know your Operations orders. PSG helps with beans & bullets but you have the rest. You will pitch the Op Order but your PSG will be their to support you. So don't come off as chewed up to the troops when pitching it. Your confidence in knowing the mission helps your troops confidence in the success of the mission. Finally, remember that soldiers quit bringing you problems/issues/questions when they no longer have faith in you to have an answer, get an answer or care. A side from that, I wish you the best and thank you for your service.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 7:51 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:51:41 -0400

The use of handsoap is a must.

Response by SSG Shawn Ireland made Sep 30 at 2015 8:38 AM

SSG Shawn Ireland — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:38:26 -0400

I've experienced this issue prior to my getting injured. I was the acting Platoon Sergeant as we were short on E-7's. I shortly got a new E-6 who had a little more time in grade than I so he took over. The only problem was he had been out of the infantry for along time as he somehow got assigned in Washington and was working taking care of the horses with what I believe was the Old Guard. Anyways, he was very much out of his element and so I helped him as much as he would allow as once again he had time in grade over me. Soon after we got a new 2nd Lt. from the Citidel. Of course he had just finished Ranger School and his first order of business was to issue out Ranger Manuels to everyone. Now we are in Germany, in a Mech. Inf. Unit! I went with it as was my place and duty. Somehow he and the new E-6, became buddies and had all these great ideas on how we were going to be the best platoon in the company. The thing was that all the squads were already qualified experts at all our training at the different courses at Graf., and Hoenfeld. In short order the soldiers started getting an bad attitude towards the two. We started getting soldiers who would do what they were told to ones that wanted out of the platoon and wanted to know if they could talk to the CO. Anyways, they came to me and asked if they could talk to the CO, and I explained his open door policy and that as long as they used the chain of command they could. So one morning I get called down to our Tack Room and get jacked up from the two saying that I was leading a takeover of the platoon. I made it clear that in no way was I in any way doing such. The Lt. said that it was his platoon and he would run it his way. I told him that I had no problems with that with one little bit of advice. I tried to let him know that his plan to run the platoon as Rangers was in conflict with the way an Mech. Inf. Unit ran. That while we were dismounted that we could implement his doctrine and there was no problem with it. However I was told it was'nt my place to make any such statements. Then the new E-6 decided he would try to put his word in on me. So I said that it was going to be difficult for me to sit back and watch the platoon go south. I asked at that time if it would be possible for me to transfer to another platoon as it was clear that things were not working. That's when the shit hit the fan! They locked me up to attention and tried to tell me that I had better sign on with them or I was going to be in for a bad ride. I once again tried to explain that in no way had I done or acted in anyway to go against them and tried to tell the soldiers that it was not my place to question their orders as I was now just a Squad Leader and as such had to follow orders as they did. Shortly thereafter we deployed to Graf., and they had a new Squad Range and Platoon Range. Well we were going to be the first platoon to go down. At the briefing at the range at the sand table the Lt. explained his idea of how we were going to attack. Everyone listened and a look came over all the Squad Leaders as it was clear that there were some issues with his plan. So in the proper manner we all together asked and made some input to the plan so as to ensure another Expert qualification. Well we all got shot down and once again told that this was the Rangers way! Needless to say we got half way down the coarse and the Range Safety Officer shut us down as we were going out of bounds on the range and it was likely that we were going to end up with firing out of range boundaries. We all said that we were only following orders as to our attack. Needless to say but due to us being the first to run the coarse the Battalion Commander was with us to watch first hand. He road with me and my Squad and when we came to a dismount part of the coarse we engaged the targets to our front and as I was the Team Leader, as the squad was broken in two as this was a leap frog type coarse I radioed the Squad Leader and informed him to stop as we were involved in an engagement. Now this was before the Bradley and we were still using APC's so we had to be in contact with each other as the Track Commander I wore a PRC77 and my CVC, so I could stay in contact while dismounted. Long story short the Battalion commander had a flashback from Vietnam, and once I was down with my squad engaging the targets as they were timed, he came up behind me while once again I was in the prone engaging targets and he full force kicked me between the legs. As I didn't know what was going on I got up with my weapon and turned around and pointed my M16 at him and asked what the heck, not those words, but I am sure you could put the ones I used in. I came very close to shooting him for the assault. I later used his open door policy, against everyone's advice and confronted him to his assault on me. I had told him about all our efforts to do the coarse and what and why we were doing it that way. He apologized and informed me that with weapons firing and my being talking to my soldiers loud to get them engaging targets and calling the other side to stop them and ensure no cross fire, that he had a flashback and that there was no fault of my actions. Now by this time the entire Battalion was giving me a hard time about the situation so first the Battalion CSM, called an NCO meeting with no exception and let every NCO know that I had done nothing wrong and that if there was any other harassment towards me that he would be taking stripes and giving out Article 15's! The next morning the Battalion commander called a formation and did the same as the CSM. He also apologized to me and let everyone know I had done nothing wrong. This was to me like what Gen. Patton had done to the soldier in the med. tent. It is very possible that his kick was part of my problems with my hip injury. My point behind this is that there is a need for the new Lt's to ensure that they rely on the NCO's under their command and understand that we have been doing this for years. Some helpful advice doesn't hurt anyone and it isn't degrading it's how they become great Senior Officers. Knowing that there is reliable knowledge available should be strongly stressed in their training prior to being assigned to their first position. And if you have been out of your MOS, and know that you could use some help, get it from those who have been doing this for years and qualified. Don't be seen by your troops just minutes from going down range trying to make a radio check utilizing a porkchop mic. with no speaker attached, Utilize a hand mic., and if unsure ask! I know that this is a very trying time being fresh and just getting your new platoon. Use your NCO's as this is how we become a better and more informed unit. We to have to learn from your knowledge. The whole machine falls apart if we don't work together. The NCO's are the ones you will always need in order to ensure a great military career. We are there for whatever your needs are and to help in your new transition into your first command. Working together makes us stronger and more efficient. Always relied on us and we will get the job done with nothing but respect.

Response by 1SG Albert Harshman made Sep 30 at 2015 9:23 AM

1SG Albert Harshman — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:23:52 -0400

The senior non-coms are a wealth of knowledge. More so than any text book you may have read. They've been there and done that. Don't let your rank override common sense. Listen to them. Watch them and try to emulate them for they will be the best teachers you'll ever have. There was a time when all newly commissioned officers had to watch a video by MG Starre (hope I spelled that correctly). If you haven't seen it, try to get a copy and watch it. My last assignment in the Army was as a First Sergeant in an OBC Battery. After having to deal with 3000+ 2LTs, I know what you are facing. The fact that you would even ask this question says a great deal about you.

Response by SCPO Christopher Rubino made Sep 30 at 2015 9:53 AM

SCPO Christopher Rubino — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 09:53:17 -0400

#1 LISTEN. LISTEN, LISTEN. Unless you are a MUSTANG, you have a lot to learn, and it is not a bad thing. Senior officers, Senior NCOs, have an awful lot to teach you. And especially the junior enlisted. Listen to their needs
#2 THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK. Unless you are in a critical moment, think it through. Talk with your SNCO, senior officers. Get advice on how best to handle it.
#3 KNOW YOUR NCO. Doesn't mean you should be buddy, buddy, but know him/her. Trust them. If they are good, they will never lead you wrong. Include them in planning, and your plan will gladly become THEIR plan.

Response by SSG Jeffrey Landry made Sep 30 at 2015 1:24 PM

SSG Jeffrey Landry — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:24:56 -0400

Willingness to listen, good general book sense, common sense , eagerness to assist, know when to help and when give instruction, understanding of UCMJ and how to enforce , understanding he or she doesn't know everything , willing to stand behind decision whether right or wrong

Response by SGM Ron Crump made Sep 30 at 2015 1:48 PM

SGM Ron Crump — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:48:10 -0400

Willingness to listen and learn. Everything can be learned BUT desire and initiative are ingrained. Ask and be willing to lead. Learn from everyone, even a Private can teach you something.

Response by SGT Lisa Becker made Sep 30 at 2015 2:22 PM

SGT Lisa Becker — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:22:48 -0400

The BEST young Lieutenants that I have been around are the ones that have been through the enlisted ranks before getting commissioned. I know that is just my opinion but after 20 years of military service I have seen both.

Response by SFC Robert Salmon made Sep 30 at 2015 5:49 PM

SFC Robert Salmon — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:49:49 -0400

Moldable. I know that isn't a word, but if my LT's were not moldable, then there were problems. Not just with me, but later down the road. Secondly, they are not really your soldiers. Don't start your first day off with, I want to...with MY soldiers. They are in fact Mine. :) I also had great success when my LT's understood what their role within the platoon/company was. It was not to reshape/redefine the US Army. I know you have great ideas about fixing all the broken parts, but coming in like you are the next best thing to sliced bread, is not the way to go about it.
Above all, listen to me. respect my opinion and if you have a difference, and it's that important, then let's talk about it. Let's pull to the side (if the situation allows) and work through it. Otherwise let me run the platoon and help you look good. I don't mean to sound cocky or arrogant, but I always thought part of my job was to help my LT secure a good OER out of the gate. I have stories of those that came in, respected the NCO's, learned to work within the system, and understood their position, that turned out to be GREAT CO's and Field Officers. I also have a few where the LT came in with a chip on their shoulder and like 1SG Jim said talked down to me like I was inferior. I had to teach them that being a subordinate does not mean inferior. Some learned, some didn't. Those who didn't had a hard time earning respect from the soldiers and ended up being the kind of officer that you do not want to become.
I would say you are off to a decent start by simply asking the question. Good luck and rock steady young LT.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 5:52 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:52:19 -0400

Enthusiasm and a willingness to learn from all ranks.

Response by SFC Edwin Watson made Sep 30 at 2015 6:58 PM

SFC Edwin Watson — Wed, 30 Sep 2015 18:58:50 -0400

The willingness to make the meetings while your Platoon Sergeant is with the platoon making the mission happen. I was a Motor Sergeant, and the best platoon leader I ever had would take care of things like convoy clearances, drivers training ranges, and other logistical issues while I was getting our vehicles prepped and ready for the missions. He would attend the majority of staff meetings so that I could be in coveralls with my mechanics servicing and repairing vehicles, or doing some maintenance related training. When there was time, he would borrow some coveralls and pitch in. Wasn't afraid to get a little grease on his hands. That is a mechanic's perspective of a great platoon leader.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 1 at 2015 8:40 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 08:40:10 -0400

One who knows to salute a 1LT.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 1 at 2015 11:14 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:14:43 -0400

If you have a good Senior NCO he will guide you and let you know when you are heading in the wrong direction. What we need a young LT to do is listen and not be hard headed, thinking he/she know more then the PSG. A good LT will seat down with the PSG and create a plan of action for the Platoon. This way you are both on the same page, moving in the same direction and not contracdicting eash other. Work as a team for the betterment of the Platoon.

Response by SGT Leigh Barton made Oct 2 at 2015 1:08 AM

SGT Leigh Barton — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 01:08:52 -0400

The ability to recognize their own ignorance. To realize that the reason they are looking for answers is because they don't KNOW.

Response by SMSgt Cary Baker made Oct 2 at 2015 5:05 AM

SMSgt Cary Baker — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 05:05:20 -0400

The quality and action I'm looking for in my young LTs and Capts, are to sit back, watch, listen, and learn. Be willing to accept responsibility for their section or flight's, and be accountable for them. I worked (retired now) in the Minuteman Weapon System, none of our young officers have any experience with this system, but they are expected to lead. Therefore, I expect them to speak to me about all issues to ensure they have the proper and correct information to make the best decision. I also expect them to take much instructive criticism from me and my fellow SNCOs. If they are willing to do this, I will bend over backwards for them.

Response by SFC Rodrick Carter made Oct 3 at 2015 2:35 PM

SFC Rodrick Carter — Sat, 03 Oct 2015 14:35:26 -0400

I always looked for my LT to be approachable and open to reason. I'm sure that they were told one thing in school but at the unit/ platoon level, that's another story. A good Platoon Sergeant will mentor his/ her LT by pushing them towards their peers as well as the XO and Commander to get ideas from them and courses of action. Teach them that it's always good to sit down with their rather and discuss their performance and what's expected of them. Good Platoon Sergeants should teach the Squad Leaders and Team Leaders that they should support the PL and do what it takes to get the mission accomplished and take care of the Soldiers. In turn, this builds confidence and shows the LT that he/she can trust the NCO's.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 6:26 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Oct 2015 18:26:32 -0400

I am prior enlisted and NCO. I was curious to hear answers without that note. Wondering if that would change anyone's advice.

Note: Not sure how to edit the question to add this note, so hopefully this post is found at some point!

Response by SFC Kenneth Highland made Oct 15 at 2015 1:29 PM

SFC Kenneth Highland — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:29:24 -0400

AFTER RETIRING A FEW MONTHS AGO, I JUST RECEIVED WORD MY PL HAS BEEN SELECTED TO BE THE NEW XO OF MY FORMER UNIT. HE CALLED AND THANKED ME FOR THE GUIDANCE I GAVE HIM. MAKES A PLATOON DADDY HAPPY.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 15 at 2015 1:41 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:41:51 -0400

They want to see a 2LT that is technically and tactically proficient, take the Commanders intent and communicates it well. He does not abuse his rank. Then, the PLSGT will be comfortable in sharing the platoon.

Response by SFC Kenneth Highland made Oct 16 at 2015 8:59 AM

SFC Kenneth Highland — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:59:38 -0400

LT, GET THE RANGER HANDBOOK AND LOOK AT THE PL AND PSG RESPONSIBILITIES. THIS MANUAL WILL GREATLY HELP ANY YOUNG OFFICER.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2015 12:46 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Oct 2015 00:46:16 -0400

Sir, a good young PL will come in and listen and learn from the PSG and Squad Leaders. Realize you don't know everything that your NCO's have experienced alot and will not lead you wrong. Be a good battle buddy team with your PSG. He will make sure you learn what you need to for mission accomplishment and get you trained. I have been a PSG for a good while now and I could not ask for better LT's
They wanted to do great things for the platoon not themselves and for that the platoon was successful and that made everyone successful. It's a exciting time for new LT's cause it will shape you as a leader and you will never forget your PL time or your PSG. I wish you the very best. Sure you will have a great PSG! If you want anymore advice from my experience I would be happy to share anything with you. BROTHERHOOD!