Sergeant Major of the Army Dan Dailey Wants To Bring Back The Iconic Eisenhower Jacket, And He Needs Your Help. What do You Think?

2015-07-22T22:59:01-04:00

UNIFORM SHARE OF THE DAY

In a recent Armytimes Article:

Sergeant Major of the Army Dan Dailey wants to bring back the iconic Eisenhower jacket, and he needs your help. In a new survey to the force, Dailey wants to hear if soldiers like the idea of the waist length jacket made popular by Gen. Dwight Eisenhower during World War II.
The proposed jacket would “add one layer of etiquette” for soldiers who may need to go from the Class Bs to a more formal appearance without transitioning to the full Army Service Uniform jacket, Dailey said.
“I like it from a historical standpoint, history and honor,” Dailey said. “Eisenhower introduced the khaki version, and even though we’re in the blues today, it’s back to it.”
In addition to the Eisenhower jacket, the survey being sent to the force also will seek soldier feedback on several other uniform changes, including gender neutral head gear and black socks with the new PT uniform.
“We want to make sure soldiers get a chance to express their opinion,” Dailey said. “It was very important to the [Army chief of staff] and myself for soldiers to know we’re listening to them.”
The survey will go out to soldiers’ military email addresses in batches beginning this week, and it will likely be up for at least two weeks, or until a large enough portion of the force has responded, Dailey said. Even though Dailey has said he is “not going to be the uniform Sergeant Major,” he is pushing these potential changes to uniform items and wear in response to soldier feedback.
“I think we need an era of stabilization,” Dailey has said, even as the Army rolls out a new PT uniform and a new camouflage pattern for the Army Combat Uniform.
However, Dailey also is looking at how these changes could boost morale across the force.
“If you can raise motivation by fixing things that don’t really have a negative effect on the standards and discipline of the Army, why not?” Dailey said.

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Response by SSG Izzy Abbass made Jul 22 at 2015 11:09 PM

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Love it and I wish it would come back

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jul 22 at 2015 11:16 PM

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So much for keeping it simple... The Ike Jacket is nice... but the windbreaker is fine...

As I said in another post... DS hat should be up to females. Like the Ike Jacket, the female DS hat has a history. The service cap, that makes sense, but again the unisex hat we need to ensure the females want a unisex hat. Socks make sense. SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Jul 22 at 2015 11:18 PM

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Why so many changes? It ultimately costs the taxpayers for all these changes.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Jul 22 at 2015 11:20 PM

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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL I like the Ike jacket idea. The Class B with the ribbons and other badging will tear up the white shirts in short order.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jul 22 at 2015 11:30 PM

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I like it.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Jul 22 at 2015 11:35 PM

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Excellent call! I'm totally envious.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2015 11:37 PM

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It looked good with the WWII browns. I find it unappealing in the ASU color scheme. Also, the Ike jacket is part of my law enforcement dress uniform. It constantly rides up from the waist and does not breath well because it is gathered at the waist.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2015 11:38 PM

2015-07-22T23:38:03-04:00

Love that jacket. Here it is in Army Green.

Response by 1LT William Clardy made Jul 23 at 2015 12:26 AM

2015-07-23T00:26:05-04:00

It's good to see the trend away from service uniforms reversing, but I think that it would look much better in Army green and worn over khakis.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Jul 23 at 2015 2:02 AM

2015-07-23T02:02:18-04:00

I think it looks pretty cool!

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Jul 23 at 2015 5:05 AM

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Sweet

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Jul 23 at 2015 5:07 AM

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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL Joe, it is hard to like this particular Ike Jacket because the SFC in the picture is not very photogenic. I like the concept but this jacket looks sloppy. IMO.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Jul 23 at 2015 6:27 AM

2015-07-23T06:27:46-04:00

I agree, needs a remake.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 6:51 AM

2015-07-23T06:51:24-04:00

What an unprofessional model was used by the army times to project a uniform change, his atire looks as though it's on it's way to Goodwill, the uniform needs to look inviting, the soldier/model needs to be "stract" (sp). Creases sharp, front of jacket, dementionally pleasing. What E-7 does'nt have at least three rows of ribbons and a couple badges to help sell the "Ike", I think the uniform jacket is a super idea, But let's sell it correctly, The Army Way.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 7:15 AM

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It will cost the taxpayers millions, and it will cost current service members millions as well.

What I mean is that the taxpayers foot the bill to have these jackets "developed" and manufactured, then issued to brand new soldiers.

The second part is that the manufacturers and retailers selling these jackets to current service members will gouge us with steep prices, because they can. None of our current uniform items, whatever they may be, are actually worth the price put on them. $107 for a pair of basic (issue type) Altima desert boots, $78 for a poncho liner, or $28 for a recruiter or DS badge? Ridiculously high prices there!

Nah, I think I will pass on yet another uniform change. We have enough transitions and additions going on as it is.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 8:34 AM

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You know I am for keeping heritage. It does matter and I have an idea about that as a feature on this site....

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 8:40 AM

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I think bringing back all-star uniforms are cool but ultimately incredibly expensive we have to remember where in the deficit right now and we've changed the military uniform several times over the last 10 years to change it again with me and another insurmountable amount of money if they higher-ups want to change the look what do we have to say about it really I just don't think it's a viable idea due to the monetary situation

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Jul 23 at 2015 8:59 AM

2015-07-23T08:59:09-04:00

It's all high speed and good until some local CDR makes a "nice" policy on it ala the current ACU/Multicam fiasco. I think it looks great until due to said policies it's an item that sits in the closet and really never gets worn or you find them at the local Army/Navy store for sale. SMA's heart IS in the right place with good ideas, but with the drawdowns, and other things hitting the Army hard, there are many other ways to raise morale and maybe later on, get this item in the approved to wear list.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jul 23 at 2015 9:55 AM

2015-07-23T09:55:23-04:00

It might be just me, but I think the highly shined brass buttons take away from the look. If they really want to go back to the Ike Jacket, I say do it right and cover the buttons.

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Jul 23 at 2015 11:44 AM

2015-07-23T11:44:23-04:00

I voted yes for it!

Response by SPC Tony Bucaro made Jul 23 at 2015 11:52 AM

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I like it and wish they had this when I was in the Army. All the good stuff came out after I got out!!

Response by SGM Robert Speakman made Jul 23 at 2015 2:10 PM

2015-07-23T14:10:32-04:00

No it looks sloppy

Response by MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht made Jul 23 at 2015 5:05 PM

2015-07-23T17:05:00-04:00

Damn right. No better way to honor a former 5 star and President. I am all for it. My brother- in-law wore the sharpest Army uniform back in the 50s

Response by LTC Greg Raisor made Jul 24 at 2015 5:59 PM

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Every soldier would have to have it, or, none. The fatties would look terrible in it (which is why the "B" uniform is probably out of fashion. What would the female version look like?

Response by PVT Dominique Stewart made Oct 14 at 2015 5:08 PM

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I like the look of the Eisenhower Jacket

Response by SGT William Howell made Oct 15 at 2015 10:42 AM

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More uniform changes; less training!

Some new recruiting slogans.

"An Army of One...Uniform After Another!"

"Indecisive? Join the Army! We can't even decide what uniform to wear."

"Want to kill terrorist? Join the Marines! You want to have a locker full of flashy uniforms? Join the Army!"

"Army! Thank God were not the Air Force!"

Response by SSG John Erny made Nov 20 at 2015 4:39 PM

2015-11-20T16:39:03-05:00

If you want a daily garrison service uniform but not full dress then bring back the khakis, they would be sharp!

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Nov 20 at 2015 4:42 PM

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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL, I think the Ike jacket would have worked had the Army maintained some form of dress greens. To me, the Ike jacket looks silly as part of the ASU (old dress blues) uniform. SSG John Erny SPC Private RallyPoint Member

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Nov 20 at 2015 5:32 PM

2015-11-20T17:32:29-05:00

Dam, I retired too soon, the Ike jacket is very comfortable wear and looks good too; I bought one at the ARMY and Navy store when I was in high school in 1970 and it looked good and was very comfortable.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Nov 22 at 2015 2:42 PM

2015-11-22T14:42:07-05:00

I think the Army needs to stop making changes all the time; that being said, they should go back to green and khaki. This blue stuff just doesn't seem right to me. Further, the IKE is an informal jacket - it doesn't go with Alfas...

Response by SrA David Steyer made Nov 22 at 2015 2:53 PM

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No.

I think this is a silly idea in this day and age due to not only monetary concerns but of how often the Class A/B uniform is even worn. Nonetheless, even if the Class A/B uniform was worn on a regular basis, then maybe it would be a decent idea, but we already have a sweater and/or lightweight jacket. I know the AF has two style of sweaters and the light weight jacket. I think that is perfectly fine.

Response by SPC Mark Beard made Nov 25 at 2015 5:04 AM

2015-11-25T05:04:23-05:00

thats what we wear for color guard American legion I like ours however you must stay trim and thin to look good I say yes everytime you wear it your wearing history

Response by 1LT Aaron Barr made Nov 25 at 2015 9:23 AM

2015-11-25T09:23:26-05:00

I'd love to see it brought back, though in OD Green or khaki rather than the blue or pickle-green we have today. Even better if they bring back the Sam Browne belt too.

Response by SP5 Michael Rathbun made Nov 26 at 2015 1:00 AM

2015-11-26T01:00:21-05:00

Heh. I well remember the Ike jacket from NDCC days. About the same level of hassle as any of the other uniform systems I had to cope with over the years.

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Nov 28 at 2015 6:19 PM

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I think he should. The great General Eisenhower had a lot of ideas and this is one of them.

Response by SFC Maury Gonzalez made Nov 28 at 2015 7:44 PM

2015-11-28T19:44:02-05:00

Not a god idea, too many NCO's with Dunlap disease and muffin tops figures

Response by SSG Keven Lahde made Nov 28 at 2015 8:47 PM

2015-11-28T20:47:31-05:00

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL SFC for us to have yet another uniform change to me seems useless. As it stands right now, My promotion packet is incomplete cause I do not have a DA photo in ASU's. I don't have a set and I cannot afford a set either. The Class A's to me were just fine. But that is just my opinion and how I feel about all these uniforms changing!!!

Response by SSG Audwin Scott made Nov 30 at 2015 1:32 PM

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I say go for it! I think it makes you combat ready if something breaks out while you in Class A uniform.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Dec 25 at 2015 9:13 PM

2015-12-25T21:13:40-05:00

Hey go for it. One thing to remember as others have posted, it won't look good on everyone. And I don't have to buy one!!!

Response by SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT made Dec 27 at 2015 3:41 PM

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I like the idea of a practical uniform. There has been so much improvement in materials.
As a young MP we had to have Class A jackets tailored so the MP pistol belt laid properly.
I did love breaking starch in cotton fatigues and the quality of the TW Khaki uniforms.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2015 10:23 AM

2015-12-28T10:23:25-05:00

yeah lets do it !!!!

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Jan 21 at 2016 12:33 PM

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I think the IKE jacket should remain a historic item. Some things shouldn't be revived. The IKE jacket only looks good if your cut, looking around post lately I'm not seeing many soldiers that are svelt. I had one my dad gave me and wore it as a camp coat for years minus the rank it was great for that, but it had a tendency to ride up in both front and back.

Response by SPC Alexander Brandt made Mar 17 at 2016 1:36 PM

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Bring it back, but bring it back in green.

Response by PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster made Apr 7 at 2017 2:54 AM

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UNIFORM CHANGES??? How about dealing with the training issues, such as the lack of discipline in some units, or combat skills training, professionalism towards all or just STOP BEING SO POLITICALLY CORRECT? They need to be trained for combat and able to defend our nation-NOT have what uniform for what day. Good God, we are in war in Iraq and now maybe Syria. Get your heads out of your '4th point of contact' and get your acts together; forget the uniforms and INVEST in our soldiers' training so they can do their jobs properly.

Response by CPT Jim Schwebach made May 14 at 2017 9:49 AM

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Just ran across this old post. When I was a kid back in the 50's we begged our dads and uncles for their cool Ike jackets. By the time I enlisted they were gone and that was a disappointment. I would have been a fan of bringing them back when Greens were replaced - BUT - not as a part of the Civil War Suit family of uniforms rather as part of the army traditional Pinks and Greens option.

The jacket as presented is disastrously tailored nor are any insignia, badges, or awards(except for rank insignia and crooked hash marks) to give it a real life perspective. The message appears to be "This thing looks awful, do you all want it adopted for wear?" The only bright side is the presence of what would appear to be traditional epaulets. That infers that the officer version would return to wearing metal rank insignia on them rather than the rank straps of the current ASU. That would be a good thing.

Response by SFC Charles Temm made May 19 at 2017 6:17 PM

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no...just who in hell gets the kickbacks from all these service uniform changes anyway?

Response by SGT James Wisejr made May 20 at 2017 4:38 PM

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I think it's a wonderful idea! I wish someone would have come up with this when I was in.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2017 11:04 AM

2017-07-05T11:04:45-04:00

I think its a good idea

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2017 11:33 AM

2017-07-05T11:33:13-04:00

No. I'm tired of buying new uniforms. It's been two years and hasn't happened. He's still talking about it though.

Response by SPC Roger Giffen made Sep 1 at 2017 4:08 PM

2017-09-01T16:08:40-04:00

I remember wearing the Ike style raincoats when I was in during the mid 70s. Very sharp looking. My father had his Ike jacket from WWII. very good looking.

Response by SSG Ray Murphy made Sep 1 at 2017 4:12 PM

2017-09-01T16:12:26-04:00

The original jacket? Sure. Not that abomination though.

Response by SFC David Shepherd made Sep 1 at 2017 4:28 PM

2017-09-01T16:28:35-04:00

Enough uniform changes already! The money wasted on all the changes could somehow be funneled into pay raises.

Response by 1SG David Niles made Sep 1 at 2017 4:36 PM

2017-09-01T16:36:13-04:00

Ugly with those pants, but nice on it's own merit

Response by PFC Bradley Campbell made Sep 1 at 2017 6:33 PM

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2017 6:46 PM

2017-09-01T18:46:03-04:00

Don't like it at all, but I have no say its what the soldier on AD want. Khakis would be a nice uniform, I had many sets when I was on AD.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2017 7:15 PM

2017-09-01T19:15:39-04:00

If it's optional then that's fine. But I think we've had enough new uniforms and enough changes for awhile.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2017 8:32 PM

2017-09-01T20:32:29-04:00

STOP FUCKING UP ARMY UNIFORMS!!!

Response by SPC Todd Rhoades made Sep 1 at 2017 9:50 PM

2017-09-01T21:50:04-04:00

I liked the khakis, before my time, but as a veteran in the civilian workforce, I find a nice pair of jeans and a button up shirt, tucked in, to be a very professional look, yet very comfortable and functional.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Sep 2 at 2017 7:57 AM

2017-09-02T07:57:58-04:00

Looks better than the current one used.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2017 10:37 AM

2017-09-02T10:37:15-04:00

BRING IT BACK

Response by Lt Col Paul Maxwell made Sep 2 at 2017 11:16 AM

2017-09-02T11:16:12-04:00

Always liked the Ike jacket, would strongly prefer to the (doubt it still exists?) shapeless black windbreaker with epaulets.

Response by SSG Jimmy Cernich made Sep 2 at 2017 11:54 AM

2017-09-02T11:54:00-04:00

No not in dress uniform.Its ugly.

Response by SGT Jim Arnold made Sep 2 at 2017 1:08 PM

2017-09-02T13:08:59-04:00

SGT Howell it's the Army, We need to re-invent the wheel every 2-3 years when I was in, it was the units they rearranged like underwear

Response by SGT Greg Gold made Sep 3 at 2017 11:24 AM

2017-09-03T11:24:58-04:00

Ok, I'm retired but here goes.

The green class A uniform was a good uniform. It was the logical evolution of the WWII dress uniform, and it looked distinctly Army. The dress blues were reserved for formal events, and looked good for their intended purpose. You lost a lot of unit identity with the blues, but it was the Army tux.

When they forced the ASU on us it was the worst of both worlds. A white dress shirt is not a 'working' uniform shirt for the Army. The ASU looks too civilian in terms of color and cut. It looks more like a police uniform as most of the blue ones feature gold or yellow trim. Then they took away unit patches sand tabs because you don't wear those with the dress blue uniform, but they added service and overseas stripes? Someone please make up their minds. In addition, the material is too thin and it shows every speck of lint.

Now the SMA wants the Army to look like upscale hotel wait staff? Someone PLEASE make this go away.

Response by SGT Frank Pritchett made Sep 12 at 2017 6:51 PM

2017-09-12T18:51:18-04:00

The Army has given up so much in historical value. The Marines keep their dress uniform because historical it has a meaning. I feel your idea has merit and the U.S. Army needs to do something to bring back a dress uniform with meaning. the more we change , the more we lose.

Response by SGT Jim Arnold made Sep 12 at 2017 6:56 PM

2017-09-12T18:56:21-04:00

I'm just glad they got rid of the vomit green Class A's

Response by MAJ Don Bigger made Sep 12 at 2017 7:06 PM

2017-09-12T19:06:23-04:00

1 - Not wild about it

2 - With that name, SMA Dan Dailey should have been a Marine.

Response by SSG Diane R. made Sep 12 at 2017 8:54 PM

2017-09-12T20:54:48-04:00

Now, this is my idea of a uniform!

Imagine this styling in the AG 344 (Green) shade.

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Response by SGT David Petree made Sep 12 at 2017 9:07 PM

2017-09-12T21:07:13-04:00

I could like that, In Green or Blue.

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Sep 12 at 2017 10:02 PM

2017-09-12T22:02:52-04:00

It would be good for the AF to do also. I'm out but when I was still in U went and got the good Class As and then had my issue Class A jacket cut into an Ike Jacket.
I only wore it as a Staff a few months before I got the new Polyester Class As . I was O'seas at my 2d tour((Thailand) and I hadn't brought my Class As, So I had to have the folks send them It took 3 weeks. I got my stripes put on and we had a Cmdrs call at base theater.. it was comfortable even with that uniform. As soon as we had our group pic taken and gotten out of formation.. I got back into my work uniform and took my blus back to my quarters.. when the Cmdr. Had his last Cmdr's call We had to get them out again... S'body said some choice words to a higher ranking officer after the Cmdr had departed the base(to avoid repercussion from him) . He was going TDY to Bankok then PCs'g .. s'how word got to him about the Sr. NCO who had confided in that Sr OFCr before he the SrNCO himself Pcs'd a couple days later.
That former Cmdr went through the trouble to track that SrNCO down at his new duty station and tell his new Cmdr how he didn't give his former cmdr the courtesy of a heads up he was going over his head. What transpired after that point I can only wonder what the new cmdr thought of his new SrNCO and the former cmdr after he heard the details of what transpired at the former base.. such petty stuff to get upset over. There were several who sent home for our jackets.
Some even bought new uniforms, One guy bought new and then sold it to a guy from another squadron shipping out to Alaska... that worked out good. I didn't want to pack my mind so I packaged it.back in the same box and put new labels and sent it to myself at my new duty station it got there two days after I did.. free !

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Sep 12 at 2017 10:52 PM

2017-09-12T22:52:53-04:00

Blue Ike Jacket I like it

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2017 12:39 AM

2017-09-13T00:39:03-04:00

I agree with the concept, but seriously, how often do you see commanders authorizing class Bs for daily wear? The leadership has got so lazy when it comes to the wear of the uniform, and the general appearance of soldiers, we look a sack of potatoes (potatos? Hope my career is not ruined!). all just because they are easier to wear. When you see generals wearing what is designed to be a working uniform while in public, you know that the Army has lost its sense of appropriateness. You jonw, I graduated in ACU's from my branch school because the Commandant decided that we were "an Army at war", that was the tackiest graduation ever. Good luck with that one!

Response by SGM John Barnett made Sep 17 at 2017 11:33 PM

2017-09-17T23:33:49-04:00

Lol, No

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Dec 30 at 2017 11:51 PM

2017-12-30T23:51:56-05:00

Great until you get paunchy, you can't have powdered sugar donuts either

Response by PO2 Jacinto Segura made May 28 at 2018 8:14 PM

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I like the original WW2 Eisenhower jacket dark brown w/out the brass buttons. I’m Navy retired but a WW 2 aficionado.

Response by TSgt Claude Everhart made Sep 4 at 2018 5:08 PM

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Nope.... and stop desecrating the Dress blues! Go back to a green class A and leave the sacred blues alone... it is CEREMONIAL DRESS

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 10:48 AM

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Does anybody in the chain up there have a brain cell. Listen to soldiers. They are tired of uniform changes after uh inform changes after unfiorm changes. It's cost millions for no reason. Only uniform that should get any attention is the combat uniform to make it more effective in combat. Same for weapons. It's not rocket science. The manufacturers have done the work & testing & competing, pick 1. But the uniform searching needs to stop. High up wanted the asu & they got it & thought it was too formal for everyday wear in the office. Deal with it. The class a greens worked fine. The Marines & navy haven't changed uniforms in decades. We are not the fashion military. We are the US military. 1 military. Should be 1 standard uniform for everyone & variants per special missions.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 12:25 PM

2018-09-05T12:25:32-04:00

Uniform looks great but if we have to buy it then no. I’m all for it if we get it issued. We don’t get enough for clothing allowance and many soldiers are still buying OCPs.

Response by SGT Nick Webber made Sep 5 at 2018 1:28 PM

2018-09-05T13:28:33-04:00

Find something and stay with it! It's not a fashion show, the business is keeping America safe not lets play dress up. Go to the khakis and stay with them!

Response by Sgt Wayne Garmon made Sep 5 at 2018 2:00 PM

2018-09-05T14:00:25-04:00

At what additional cost.

Response by CW5 Roger Jacobs made Sep 5 at 2018 3:01 PM

2018-09-05T15:01:02-04:00

Love the Eisenhower jacket, but I would like to see it as part of the pinks and greens.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 3:27 PM

2018-09-05T15:27:02-04:00

No no no, they put us in a uniform that makes us look like the crew of the love boat. Hey now let's get a jacket that makes us look like Fatty Patty bellhops. Someone slap the good idea fairy and make it go away. Let's spend the money on marksmanship training

Response by 1stSgt Jay Green made Sep 5 at 2018 3:29 PM

2018-09-05T15:29:10-04:00

Black socks not good for pt. White better for feet

Response by SGT Montana Crawford made Sep 5 at 2018 4:32 PM

2018-09-05T16:32:07-04:00

Army Alaska needs a thicker PT jacket. The black one, the wind cuts right through, and you can only layer so much for PT.

Response by SPC Craig Miller made Sep 5 at 2018 4:46 PM

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Should be khaki, these Blues just sort of complete the uniform stupidity of the ACU era.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 5:01 PM

2018-09-05T17:01:46-04:00

My personal opinion is to stop with all the changes . Even as a SFC it gets expensive to buy the uniform have it tailored, and buy all the candy to put on the uniforms. So for our soldiers who alot of them struggle as is this would just add to the Bills. We are in the middle of switching up the duty uniform and are still and will for many years be mismatched with ACU gear . If we must make changes let get OCP gear to the CIF facilities so we look like a fighting force not a rag bag of mismatched people running around. Help us look professional on the daily missions. Once we get us all looking professional in our duty uniform let's switch to being able to properly maintain our equipment without it being an episode of barter kings behind the scenes to get parts. So I say NO to a new uniform. Let focus on the basics to ensure we have a professional looking army, that is trained and proficient in their MOS, and focus on area that really need attention.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 5:06 PM

2018-09-05T17:06:37-04:00

I don't care which uniform as long as I don't have to pay for it and it's alterations.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 5:07 PM

2018-09-05T17:07:27-04:00

I don't really care as long as I don't have to pay for it or it's alterations.

Response by 1SG Robert Hess made Sep 5 at 2018 5:11 PM

2018-09-05T17:11:51-04:00

I wish the Army or at least someone would listen to reason. The ACU uniform was a disaster, the new cammo is great. Leave it and the current dress uniform for at least another 50 years. Think how much those funds could be diverted to other things. If you want to ask the troops about something, ask them what they would prefer those funds be spent on. Also, get rid of anything that would require specific funds to be spent on so that there aren’t uniform specific funding. I’m sure that is why there was such a long period of time that a uniform change was made in my grand parents age. Too much stuff gets washed in specific funding. Less government is The founding of our country

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 5:20 PM

2018-09-05T17:20:38-04:00

Finally a uniform Enlisted Soldiers can actually be proud and want to wear. Tired of the Marines always having the best looking uniforms. Not to mention why are Army Officers wearing this but enlisted or NCO’s can’t.

Response by SSG Mike Lansaw made Sep 5 at 2018 6:23 PM

2018-09-05T18:23:56-04:00

Stop All the uniform changes it cost the troops a lot of money and the money could be must better used getting a new rifle

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 6:25 PM

2018-09-05T18:25:11-04:00

Soldiers are to fat nowadays to wear these jackets. Notice how our new combat uniform is all big and baggy. The Army is trying to make uniforms that fit this new generation of computer gaming couch potatoes. His jacket will look ridiculous on this new generation.

Response by SFC Terry Chamberlin made Sep 5 at 2018 6:52 PM

2018-09-05T18:52:18-04:00

Another waste of money. To many Uniform changes. If SGM of Army can’t see this maybe is in wrong position.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 6:56 PM

2018-09-05T18:56:54-04:00

No.

Response by SFC Bill Snyder made Sep 5 at 2018 7:00 PM

2018-09-05T19:00:56-04:00

I wonder if the SGM is a Fashon Maven. I'm sure there are more pressing needs in the Army then designing uniforms no one really wants. A Blue Ike Jacket? Come on now.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 7:43 PM

2018-09-05T19:43:13-04:00

I thought they were talking about bringing back pinks and greens. I’m ambivalent about a eeing the jacket in blue. It doesn’t look as nice...but adding an additional jacket to the existing uniform would be less painful than throwing away yet another expensive-now-obsolete uniform!

Response by SPC Denton McLaughlim made Sep 5 at 2018 7:55 PM

2018-09-05T19:55:47-04:00

More uniform changes can be a financial burden to a junior soldier with a family. Trust me, my uniform allowances didn't go far when we had to transition from BDU to ACUs. I acquired ACU uniforms from an ETSing soldier and spent my meager $200ish allowance on boots.

Of course I was also that moron first year in with $700 in car payment every month. What a hard lesson to learn, but learn I did.

Response by MSgt J.c. Hurst made Sep 5 at 2018 8:33 PM

2018-09-05T20:33:40-04:00

Still trying to look as great as Marines do!

Response by LTC Jim Tighe made Sep 5 at 2018 8:51 PM

2018-09-05T20:51:23-04:00

I just have a hard time with all of the bullshit thats not important...parades or uniforms that constsntly change...just my opinion but why not focus on something that keeps troops alive and in one piece.

Response by LTC Philip DeCara made Sep 5 at 2018 10:10 PM

2018-09-05T22:10:25-04:00

It would only look good if we return to the post-WWII uniform.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 5 at 2018 11:04 PM

2018-09-05T23:04:21-04:00

Why is the hell do we need to change the uniform like underwear? Geez. Leave it alone and put the money into real gear for the troops. Seems like the EAC people are just looking for bullet comments.

Response by SFC Christopher Koeppel made Sep 5 at 2018 11:15 PM

2018-09-05T23:15:34-04:00

Sounds like a waste of government money. SMA, I would recommend fixing the leadership issues within the ranks before we start adding to the uniform.

Response by Sgt Gottfried Lillich made Sep 6 at 2018 12:10 AM

2018-09-06T00:10:02-04:00

Perfect for the Army you all look like a bunch of fucking bus drivers.

Response by SGT Ron Egan made Sep 6 at 2018 12:11 AM

2018-09-06T00:11:30-04:00

Oh hell yes

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Sep 6 at 2018 12:16 AM

2018-09-06T00:16:06-04:00

I’ve got my father in law’s Eisenhower jacket he had in Korea. It’s a heck of a lot nicer than most of the modern jackets.

Response by 1LT Dennis Bell made Sep 6 at 2018 2:21 AM

2018-09-06T02:21:59-04:00

Why do this when they’re already planning to switch the Class A uniform back to something other than Dress Blues and make Dress Blues once again a Dress Uniform????

Response by SFC Bill Snyder made Sep 6 at 2018 7:52 AM

2018-09-06T07:52:18-04:00

You would thing a SGM has more important things to do then be Fashion Maven.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2018 8:59 AM

2018-09-06T08:59:56-04:00

Along with riding boots and beeches.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2018 9:49 AM

2018-09-06T09:49:57-04:00

Seriously!! With the upmost respect leave our uniform alone, and let’s focus on the needs of the soldier... A iconic jacket does not help the soldier, it adds an extra burden to them.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2018 10:09 AM

2018-09-06T10:09:49-04:00

We need to leave the uniforms alone, all of them. Yes the Ike jacket is nice but we have more important things to do other than trying to look “pretty”. We spend a lot of time doing our quarterly 350-1 mandatory training, we don’t get to train our Soldiers on combat skills in the support arena as we should. We need to teach how to run analog systems and brake the dependency on technology. I’ve seen units shut down because technology failed and people didn’t have an analog backup system. Uniforms is the last thing we need to worry about now. Want to increase morale? Stop the segregation when we go go to the field. Forget the gender brake down, we are all Soldiers and when we share in hard ships we become family. Worrying about another uniform change is not going to increase morale, it’s another stress of paying for something we don’t need. Yes we get a clothing allowance every year and we have uniforms to replace already and bots to buy. This is just another way to take focus away from what we need to do. Take care of our Soldiers and keep them focused on their mission.

Response by SPC John Parmenter made Sep 6 at 2018 10:13 AM

2018-09-06T10:13:35-04:00

The original short WW II "Ike Jacket" was inspired by British Battle Dress & adopted by the U.S. Army. Later, both the U.S. Air Force & the U.S. Marine Corps copied the Army with short jackets of their own.

Response by Lt Col Kevin Wyman made Sep 6 at 2018 11:59 AM

2018-09-06T11:59:58-04:00

Could see that this jacket would not be for all body shapes. A slight thickening of abdominal girth and the jacket would look sloppy.

Response by Cpl Brian Escobar made Sep 6 at 2018 9:18 PM

2018-09-06T21:18:27-04:00

Stupid. That coat was designed out of necessity not desire for its looks..somebody needs to teach the Army Brass some history so they can learn about rationing during WW2...

-Semper Fi

Response by SPC Aaron Jowell made Sep 6 at 2018 10:52 PM

2018-09-06T22:52:30-04:00

Stupid idea. How about focus on training instead of constantly changing uniforms.

Response by SGT Jeff Fronk made Sep 7 at 2018 12:02 AM

2018-09-07T00:02:06-04:00

That silly, short jacket above would be a no from me. In a time that the Army is looking to reshape its branding it should concentrate on the revamped pink and greens that were tested a year or so ago, work on updating the cut of the dress blue uniform and scrap the idea of the ASU.

Response by MAJ Bob Firth made Sep 7 at 2018 2:37 PM

2018-09-07T14:37:30-04:00

Looks like a wrinkled duffel bag dyed blue.

Response by CW4 Brian Haas made Sep 7 at 2018 8:20 PM

2018-09-07T20:20:40-04:00

I think they should give everyone a beret to boost moral!! Wait...

Response by CPL Ransome Swords made Sep 7 at 2018 9:14 PM

2018-09-07T21:14:22-04:00

I think the Army should take a lesson from the Marines and quit jacking around with the uniform. Go back to khakis, greens and dress blues only on special occasions

Response by SGT Kaye Fiorello made Sep 7 at 2018 10:58 PM

2018-09-07T22:58:50-04:00

why does that jacket look so sloppy on that model?
Its sure going to be hard to hide fat kids in that.... and, lets see how it looks on a female?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 7 at 2018 11:14 PM

2018-09-07T23:14:10-04:00

As much as I love the old Ike jacket, this is a bad idea for several reasons. First, the Army has already gone through more clothing changes than a Broadway play cast. Second, while the Ike jacket looks great in OD green, in blue, it makes Soldiers in the class B uniform look even more like mall cops. Third, this will no doubt replace the current black jacket, which was one of the few good uniform changes to come down over the last few years. Finally, how much will this jacket cost, and which Army budget will it come out of?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2018 1:30 PM

2018-09-08T13:30:14-04:00

Not in that color. Gender neutral??? WTH? I'll refuse to wear anything except the Service Cap with my Class A. Did we not learn from the stupid black beret debacle?

Response by SSG Don Rollins made Sep 9 at 2018 1:00 PM

2018-09-09T13:00:39-04:00

i was issued an usaf ike jacket in 58 at basic. ..we wore them and bloused boots in air police school very cool it was.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2018 10:23 PM

2018-09-09T22:23:22-04:00

No, thank you.

Response by SPC Sean Hemmingway made Sep 11 at 2018 11:37 PM

2018-09-11T23:37:06-04:00

Yes

Response by SGT Walter Lester made Sep 15 at 2018 8:05 PM

2018-09-15T20:05:28-04:00

I think the jacket should be brought back in. It looks great and less cumbersome.

Response by SGT Bruce Barber made Sep 17 at 2018 10:19 AM

2018-09-17T10:19:10-04:00

No! How about spend the money on training. It's just one more clothing items that needs to be altered at the soldiers expense. Soldiers already have enough uniform options why add one more.

Response by PO1 Richard Nyberg made Sep 17 at 2018 12:36 PM

2018-09-17T12:36:44-04:00

I remember my Dad wearing the Eisenhower jacket when I was a kid, I thought it was pretty nice jacket. It might be a good thing to do. But its a different grievances different Army. I was in the Army from 196t to 1975 and In thought igneous work back then. I'm not sure how.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2018 8:57 PM

2018-09-17T20:57:38-04:00

I'm not in the Army but whenever an additional piece of uniform is added, it is always an additional costs to the service member. I would see this as a SRNCO and Officer requirement and optional for everyone else. Why did the Army stop using it anyway? Must have been a reason.

Response by SFC Robert Green made Sep 20 at 2018 11:05 AM

2018-09-20T11:05:25-04:00

I think that would be super, we need a change of uniform.

Response by PV2 Ross Bryan made Sep 22 at 2018 7:12 AM

2018-09-22T07:12:56-04:00

LETS HAVE A TRUMP VERSION OF THIS JACKET FOR TRUMP ONLY, WITH A ONE FOOT WIDE YELLO STRIPE UP THE BACK!

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Sep 23 at 2018 6:30 AM

2018-09-23T06:30:06-04:00

Is a lot snappier looking.

Response by SSG John Hyland made Sep 28 at 2018 11:19 AM

2018-09-28T11:19:55-04:00

I thought we were going with the greens and khakis? Why not use it for those as a more formal version?

Response by SGT Philip Klein made Oct 6 at 2018 8:36 AM

2018-10-06T08:36:49-04:00

SMA Dailey is a character.

Response by SFC Charles Helms made Oct 7 at 2018 2:53 PM

2018-10-07T14:53:51-04:00

NO!

Response by 1SG Leon Espe made Oct 7 at 2018 8:49 PM

2018-10-07T20:49:41-04:00

I was in the Service from 1948 through 1971 and the Ike Jacket was my favorite. You could sleep in it all night and it still looked sharp the next morning. It could be soaking wet and it would still keep out the cold. I wore the Ike Jacket under my Field Jacket and my OD trousers under my Fatigues at the Chosin Reservoir during the Battle of Chosin from late November to 24 December 1950 and survived 20 to 40 below zero weather. The Ike Jacket I wore was Olive Drab, 100 percent heavy tight woven wool and stood up to all weather conditions. We put hooks on the jacket's waist to hook to our belt so when you bent over your shirt didn't pop out. It needed very little maintenance, only cleaned occasionally. It was a very tough piece of clothing. I hope it makes a comeback.

Response by David Ermer made Oct 9 at 2018 9:47 PM

2018-10-09T21:47:55-04:00

I never liked mine, it always seemed to slide up whenever you reached for something or bent down. It wasn't very easy to keep you looking up to standards unless you hardly moved.

Response by CPT Bobby Fields made Oct 12 at 2018 12:57 PM

2018-10-12T12:57:00-04:00

So, here would be the tally for a Soldier retiring in, say, 2022 after 25 years of service if the Ike jacket was approved. Some of my dates may be a little off, and I may have missed a few things.

1) Complete APFU change in the early 2000s
2) Army-wide issue of black berets in the early 2000s
3) Change to ACUs in the mid-late 2000s, elimination of BDUs
4) Elimination of DCUs in the mid-late 2000s
5) Modification/expansion of Dress Blues into the current ASU suite of uniforms, late 2000s
6) Multi-Cam ACUs for OEF deployments in 2010-ish
7) Elimination of the black beret for wear with ACUs in 2011-ish
8) Elimination of Class As/Bs by 2014-15
9) Near-complete APFU change 2017-17
10) Possible approval of an Ike jacket, date TDB

Wow. . . . how does a Soldier keep up with all this? At one point, the Army was considering the possibility of bringing back the entire World War II era uniform, not just the Ike jacket. Could we please just put, say, a 10 year pause on major uniform changes of any kind, particularly when it comes to dress uniforms? Whether or not changes to a dress uniform will improve morale is completely subjective, even if it involves poll and research, and it certainly does nothing to increase the lethality and readiness of our Army. Utility and PT uniforms are a different story, and some of the changes have been positive and beneficial. I don't recall having a lot of conversations with my peers about how our BDUs and DCUs were absolutely horrible, but we were definitely happy for improvements like a long sleeve T-shirt for our PTs.

Expand this across the total force and look at the facts: each service fielded new (and completely different) utility uniforms in the past 15 years, with the Army and Navy changing multiple times. How much money has been spent on all of this? How many labor hours have been spent with testing, contracting, logistics, disposition of old uniform supplies, etc.?

Response by SFC Scott Parkhurst made Oct 19 at 2018 9:30 PM

2018-10-19T21:30:52-04:00

I'm kind of liking it...I agree that our Army uniform needs to be re-designed. I have always liked the Marines uniform dress. I'm not sure if the dark blue goes well with the lighter blue slacks though? I strongly believe in traditional standards, but I am not sure I would want to go back to the "tan" (khaki) again though. I think the head gear should be the same for all meaning both genders. There, my 2 cents....so far....

Response by SGT Mike Crall made Oct 22 at 2018 9:11 AM

2018-10-22T09:11:44-04:00

affirmative

Response by CPT Tom Rethard made Oct 23 at 2018 8:51 PM

2018-10-23T20:51:17-04:00

Battle jacket is a great idea, but NOT with the blues! Tacky, tacky, tacky. Looks like a cheap ripoff of a mess jacket.

Brink back the khakis or the Pinks and Greens.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2018 7:34 AM

2018-10-24T07:34:05-04:00

No don't bring it back. Just another useless uniform we're not going to wear. Understood SGM wants to leave his mark before he retires. They all do. No need to bring a uniform we ain't going to wear. Just another way to cost us more money especially since we don't make alot of money already.

Response by SPC Paul Hayward made Oct 28 at 2018 12:51 AM

2018-10-28T00:51:06-04:00

the pinks and greens would be great, but not "gender neutral anything, the military is not a social experiment, it's a fighting force that's there to win wars, not be politically correct... the best way to ruin a fighting force is to start introducing p.c. rules and requirements

Response by CPT Jeff Robinette made Oct 28 at 2018 5:39 PM

2018-10-28T17:39:24-04:00

I appreciate that SMA Dailey is interested in getting soldier feedback.
As A Cadet at Georgia Military College in the late 1970s we wore the Ike Jacket as our Class A uniform. It never fit me right as I am barrel chested and short waisted. Try as I might I was never able to exchange a jacket that fit me right. I always looked like Joe Shit the Ragman.
Not every soldier will be able to wear this uniform Jacket.
For what it is worth, my opinion is that if a throwback uniform is approved the Pink and Greens would be a far better choice.

Response by CW4 Arthur Ballis made Oct 30 at 2018 1:05 PM

2018-10-30T13:05:52-04:00

No way

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Nov 8 at 2018 10:32 PM

2018-11-08T22:32:05-05:00

I would rather see this Jacket in Brown when that uniform is approved, brining this back at the same time does not make sense to me.

Response by CPT William Fahey made Nov 10 at 2018 4:09 PM

2018-11-10T16:09:41-05:00

If it saves money that can be spent on higher priority benefits, and the change can be proven to be wanted by the vast majority of the troops to enhance morales, I'm for it.

Response by SFC Francisco Rosario made Nov 12 at 2018 2:43 PM

2018-11-12T14:43:00-05:00

I think it looks great, however this is the type of uniform that wont look good on all Soldiers. If the Soldier is overweight, then he or she would stick out like a sore thumb. This is the type of jacket that will force many to lose weight. I think this is why so many leaders in the US Army dont like the Mess Dress Blues (besides the price). I had Mess Dress Blues when i was in, and i would definitely buy them.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2018 4:56 PM

2018-11-12T16:56:05-05:00

Was just approved with the P&G’s

Response by SGT William Nixson made Nov 12 at 2018 7:41 PM

2018-11-12T19:41:00-05:00

Khakis would be my choice, especially as a "travel" uniform. The poly/cotton ones I wore in the late '70's were fairly comfortable and I thought looked great!

Response by LTC John Bush made Nov 15 at 2018 3:48 PM

2018-11-15T15:48:36-05:00

Really bad idea. The look great as long as you don't move. They were a constant problem with shirt tails hanging out. The Army green uniform set was great and never should have been changed. We are acting like the CEO that came up with the new Coke as an ego boost and that was a total failure. There is a good reason the "Ike" jacket went away.

Response by SSG Wm Johnson made Nov 18 at 2018 7:02 PM

2018-11-18T19:02:38-05:00

For duties requiring Class A Uniform with Pistol Belt there is NOTHING better!

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Nov 19 at 2018 10:10 PM

2018-11-19T22:10:41-05:00

I don't favor it if it will be in blue. The "dress blue" uniform (ASU) should be for more formal occasions whereas the retro "pinks and greens" (P&Gs) should be for more everyday wear. If they are going to have the hip length belted jacket of the P&Gs as the new "Class A" uniform then the Ike jacket could be an optional purchase item. One problem is that we are going from one to two "jacket and tie uniforms" when 99% of the Army wears ACUs 99% of the time. Yes, I like the Ike jacket (and wish I were slimmer and trimmer so I'd look good wearing one) but I don't know if it would be worth the trouble unless a fair majority of soldiers want to wear it.

Response by Es Warren made Nov 21 at 2018 3:09 PM

2018-11-21T15:09:33-05:00

The TW's or tropical weight khaki's didn't wrinkle were very light and permanent press without the creases.

Response by SrA John Monette made Nov 21 at 2018 3:15 PM

2018-11-21T15:15:34-05:00

what would be worn on it? Just rank, service stripes and name tags? any awards worn? or too early to say? personally, and I don't have a dog in this hunt, I have always like the look of the shorter jacket

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2018 10:37 AM

2018-11-23T10:37:05-05:00

This entire uniform thing with him is ludicrous, yes the uniforms look sharp, but are we ready to deploy and engage in close combat? I say no.

We need to focus on readiness, not uniforms and dress jackets. I’m only a few years from being eligible to retire, and I’m thankful, I have changed uniforms numerous times since being in and NEVER ONCE did the change improve readiness. The SMA is wrong and it’s toxic.

Response by 1SG Klayton W. Hayes made Nov 24 at 2018 9:21 AM

2018-11-24T09:21:52-05:00

Bring back the Ike Jacket? As a distinct uniform item for our Senior NCO’s by all means. Navy Chiefs have their distinctive head gear and a simple change of the badge denotes their rank/grade. Thus the Ike Jacket would be a means to recognize our E-7, E-8, and E-9 senior NCO’s. Even go so far as to remove the chevrons from the sleeves and place rank pins on the lapels under the US and Branch discs. On the lower sleeves at the cuffs, E-7’s would be authorized 1 gold piping, E-8’s 2 gold piping, and E-9’s 3. Senior NCO’s are more financially able to absorb these uniform changes also. This ole soldiers 2 cents.

Response by PV2 Glen Lewis made Nov 25 at 2018 1:15 AM

2018-11-25T01:15:20-05:00

I like the dress uniform as is. I've edited this to include that I didn't know the khakis had been discontinued. If they could be brought back in the sweat free material that someone mentioned below, that would be great. They were a great look in warmer weather. I'm still in favor of keeping the heavier dress uniform as is. I also think the old dress cover is a better look than the beret that is now the standard. I tried a beret on once for a girlfriend of mine; it was the most uncomfortable piece of headwear I ever put on as well as offering little or no shield from heat or rain.

Response by LTC Pete Moore made Nov 27 at 2018 4:38 PM

2018-11-27T16:38:22-05:00

Bad idea! Young soldiers and you officers don’t need to waste more money on another uniform. When I was commissioned I lost my clothing allow. My one time $300 allowance did cover one set of class A’s. I was a former SSG, married with two kids and I was making my pennies scream. When I retired after 30 years combined as an EM and O, the one time clothing allowance was STILL $300. Honestly don’t know if it’s gone up but there is not a junior NCO or Junior O that is not having to manage his budget tightly if he has a family. If you want higher moral, stop all the things that take the focus of readiness, stop all the social engineering, stop wasting slots at SFAS and Ranger school, stop trying to screw retirees at every opportunity. You want high moral? Train to fight and win wars not appease every libtard with a good idea. General Eisenhower was a great leader that always considered the impact on junior service members- NO Eisenhower jacket and no pinks!

Response by 1SG Roger Hughes made Nov 30 at 2018 5:52 PM

2018-11-30T17:52:57-05:00

The Blues that the Army now wears is the ugliest uniform that they have had to wear since the dress greens, get rid of the blues and go back to the greens or the dress kaki uniform (TWs in the old days). MSG(R) Roger D. Hughes

Response by SGT A F made Dec 2 at 2018 11:09 AM

2018-12-02T11:09:51-05:00

stop obsessing over the uniforms. Pick one and stick with it.

Response by SFC Freddie Porter made Dec 9 at 2018 12:32 PM

2018-12-09T12:32:45-05:00

No to the Ike Jacket. Please, remember that every time you makes changes to the uniform you put an additional financial burden on the younger soldiers beyond the yearly clothing allowance and you once again change the identity of the Army.

Start with the identity part. The Department of the Navy including the Marine Corp wear their heritage, lineage and honors each time they put on their uniform. People know who they are, where they’ve been, what they’ve done and who can be counted on. The Army uniform has changed so many times, especially in the last 40 years, a lot of times people think we’re security guards. Hollywood hasn’t even got the new generation of uniforms correct. I’ve seen uniforms worn with officer shoulder boards and NCO rank sewn on. I would really like the public know who they are looking at and what they are looking at. This blue uniform has become recognizable as the Army. There are enough variations to accommodate different occasions, mess dress, class A and class B. And it doesn’t look half bad. The old lime green class A shirt wore me out.

The cost of adding another required item to the clothing bag starts to wear thin. The clothing allowance allocated doesn’t even cover the up keep and replacement of the current items. Now it would be required to add another item at the cost of a few hundred dollars. That money comes directly from the soldiers pocket. I know soldiers get paid pretty good these days but, how about enough already.

So, SGM of the Army, how about the uniform input you leave the Army with be, pride, heritage and tradition as reflected in a constant uniform?

Response by SSG Lee Kujawa made Dec 12 at 2018 5:12 PM

2018-12-12T17:12:46-05:00

Some guys will look ok in it, some will not. I think they’re cool and very retro.

Response by A1C Ric Weide made Dec 18 at 2018 8:30 PM

2018-12-18T20:30:22-05:00

Khakis would be better, and when not in combat go back to olive drab fatigues! They were much more functional and looked a lot better than the camos that never did camouflage anything!

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Dec 31 at 2018 9:10 PM

2018-12-31T21:10:52-05:00

Bring back "Pinks and Greens" for Class A. Get us out of that horrible Dress Blue Class A. That was a really bad choice for a Class A uniform, very clumsy to wear with those shoulder boards, etc. Not sure the short Ike jacket is the best style, would rather see a longer jacket. The Ike jacket looks a lot like the Prince Charlie coatee worn with the Scots kilt, doesn't look great on everyone. Need a jacket that goes below the waist.

Response by SGT Tony Muro made Jan 4 at 2019 3:36 PM

2019-01-04T15:36:39-05:00

Stop wasting all that money on uniform changes. In the 10 years I have been out, the Army has gone through a number of uniform changes (BDU's, PTs, Dress). Why don't they spend that money on raising the lower enlisted salary?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2019 2:14 AM

2019-01-06T02:14:52-05:00

I think a more fiscally conservative perspective should be adopted when proposing formal uniform changes. Formal uniforms have a hefty price tag, both for taxpayers and Soldiers, especially the junior enlisted. In addition to the material itself, there is the cost of having the uniform tailored to fit the individual Soldier along with any new accessories such as the combat badge with the ASUs.

For higher-ups I don't think the question should be "what do I think is the best formal uniform for Soldiers to wear" but rather "is the cost of time and money to implement a new formal uniform a good expenditure of resources?" Instead of spending more money to reinvent formal uniforms, why not spend it on more worthwhile expenditures? Getting a bigger paycheck, having nicer living areas and dining facilities, and getting the best possible training for deployments and mobilizations will improve Soldiers' morale far more then a new formal uniform.

I have yet to meet a Soldier (officer and enlisted) who is happy to spend hundreds of dollars on a new formal uniform. Buying replacement duty uniforms is already a big enough expenditure for Soldiers. There's no fiscal sense in compounding this burden by making Soldiers buy new formal uniforms every few years on top of that.

Response by 1SG Patrick Sims made Jan 20 at 2019 4:15 PM

2019-01-20T16:15:53-05:00

The World War Two greens and pinks were a snappy looking uniform. The Ike jacket---not so much, if you have a weight problem.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2019 1:52 PM

2019-04-09T13:52:50-04:00

I think we have far more important things to expend our resources on. For anyone, all respect due their rank, to propose changing the dress uniform reflects a profound disatachment from the real needs of soldiers, the Army, and our Nation.

Response by SSG Pedro Tapia made Aug 14 at 2019 11:20 AM

2019-08-14T11:20:01-04:00

Waste of money that can be spend in other areas. The Ike jacket of WW2 probably was created to save material, not for aesthetic. Work on a better BDUs that last longer and please bring back the black leather boots. Soldiers always look good with a pair of a glassy shine pair of jump boots and press BDUS.

Response by Sgt Dan Catlin made Aug 14 at 2019 2:04 PM

2019-08-14T14:04:51-04:00

Looks like a Civil War era uniform. The blues already accomplish that for you, so why another? For it to work, you'd have to go back to a taller trouser with suspenders. Otherwise it would separate at the waist continually and with the white shirt look terrible. And in the end all you'd have is another dress uniform to maintain.

Response by MSG Alison Klein made Aug 14 at 2019 5:58 PM

2019-08-14T17:58:57-04:00

No! My God. We keep changing uniforms! It's so hard for the NG& Reserves. We don't get a clothing allowance unless you're an officer otherwise it gets ordered and lost 3 times. Then they just give you the wrong size. The unit is supposed to pay for alterations but it almost always doesn't get paid! So you do it yourself or pay for. We end up sticking out like sore thumbs next to active duty.

Response by SFC Kenny Cockrum made Aug 14 at 2019 6:00 PM

2019-08-14T18:00:36-04:00

I like the Ike jacket, but let it be green so it's more usable to the average soldier. Looks like it's an alternate to the dress blue jacket in this photo. Not every soldier has blues, but they all have greens.

Response by SPC Nancy Greene made Aug 14 at 2019 6:10 PM

2019-08-14T18:10:50-04:00

I like the look of this style jacket! I think all Military uniforms NEED an update! However this picture is not very flattering! LOL

Response by SFC John Brown made Aug 14 at 2019 9:53 PM

2019-08-14T21:53:57-04:00

No! John Brown E-7 combat wounded retired.

Response by Cpl Scot Stromsness made Aug 14 at 2019 9:56 PM

2019-08-14T21:56:35-04:00

What genius comes up with these stupid ideas. How is it the Marine Corps can stick w a uniform for decades. Army brass could screw up rock fight!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2019 7:33 AM

2019-08-15T07:33:25-04:00

With the Pinks and Greens - yes. With the Blues - no.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2019 8:52 AM

2019-08-15T08:52:33-04:00

How many uniforms is the Army going to have and why bother. I thought the point of the ACU/ASU was to simplify uniforms and cut cost. I do think the class B uniform with the white shirt is not a good look. I do believe all service members should have access to all the types of uniforms ClassA, Dress blue/ASU, class B etc if the army is going to have that many uniforms. Going to a Army Ball with everyone wearing multiple different uniforms seems very disorganized. I bet the Marines don’t go for that look. I also think it a culture thing. I hate when I turn a football game on and all the others services are in a nice looking class A, Dress blue, class B and the army guy is in some version of an ACU. If your going to issue uniforms you should be wearing them. I use to work at a unit that sheared a building with marines every time they left the building they were in class B minimum, you never saw them driving around in combat uniforms. I think the army can take a lesson from that. It looks more professional. Just my opinion.

Response by Jennifer Lee (Doerflinger) Hill made Nov 30 at 2019 3:28 AM

2019-11-30T03:28:08-05:00

Black socks for PT? What about those w Athletes Foot? One of the first thing folks are told to do is change to white socks & change them twice a day (more if in a wet environment.) One of my parents' close friends had such bad Athletes Foot during WWII, that he was told to pee on his feet. It cleared it where none of the available drugs could. So, now you know what to do.

Response by LTC John Bush made Nov 30 at 2019 9:52 AM

2019-11-30T09:52:36-05:00

Really bad idea. There were good reasons to discontinue that uniform item. Looks great on a model but in actual use on real people looked sloppy. Our green uniform ensemble was great and known worldwide. I have no idea why we changed and this nostalgia with WWII uniforms is nuts. Bring back riding boots, jodhpurs? This costs millions better spent on more training ammunition! We will not kill a lot of enemies with our fashion and style.

Response by SPC Rob Lewis made Dec 5 at 2019 1:35 PM

2019-12-05T13:35:00-05:00

We had to but these back in 84-85 just to wear one day a month.

Response by SGT Mathew Husen made Dec 6 at 2019 12:20 AM

2019-12-06T00:20:18-05:00

Looks like the Army is becoming more of a place to play dress up.

Response by SFC David Ocasio made Jan 2 at 2020 1:29 PM

2020-01-02T13:29:34-05:00

not active but retired. I would like to see this jacket back in inventory

Response by SFC David Ocasio made Jan 2 at 2020 1:30 PM

2020-01-02T13:30:41-05:00

Im retired now but i would like to see this style back inventory it seems to be a better fit for Soldiers than the current jacket they have now

Response by Cpl Gerald Hill made Jan 4 at 2020 10:12 PM

2020-01-04T22:12:43-05:00

I can only answer this question as a US Marine who was issued a "Battle Jacket" in Boot Camp of 1964. The Corps was phasing them out and If supply had your size then you got one, along with (1) Dress Green Blouse and if not then you were issued 2 Dress Green Blouses (Jackets) I learned to hate it! I couldn't wear it on liberty or in formation. it was only good for junk on the bunk inspections and wasting my money sewing new chevrons on after a promotion!

Response by SGM Darrel Shanks made Jan 13 at 2020 7:54 PM

2020-01-13T19:54:41-05:00

Great idea but Change the color back to brown.
If you’re really wanting to bring back an iconic uniform think about the Kakis.

Response by SSG John Jensen made Nov 23 at 2020 8:21 AM

2020-11-23T08:21:43-05:00

and don't forget the photos of Ike in his "Ike Jacket" with his hands in his pockets - can we make that change too?