Posted on May 2, 2014
She says it's hard being an ethnic woman in the military. Are finger waves allowed?
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First I do not know what finger waves are. Second the fundamental issue is this: Part of being in the Army Profession and being a Professional is that the individual adapts to the Profession, it is not the Profession that adapts to the individual. Serving in the Army Profession is a privilege, it is not a right. If an individual is unable or unwilling to conform to the Army Profession then they need to do something different. They are looking for a job, not a profession.
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SPC Herb Jorgensen
A finger wave is a method of setting hair into waves (curls) that was popular in the 1920s and 1930s and again in the late 1990s in North America and Europe. Silver screen actresses such as Bette Davis or Anita Page are attributed with the original popularity of finger waves. In their return in the 1990s, the style was popularized by Hip Hop stars of the time, specifically Missy Elliot.[1] The popularity of finger waves in the 1990s was aided by a movement toward shorter, more natural hair in the African-American community.[2]
The process involves pinching the hair between the fingers and combing the hair in alternating directions to make an "S" shape wave. A waving lotion was applied to the hair to help it retain its shape. The lotion was traditionally made using karaya gum, but more modern styles often use liquid styling gels or hairspray.[3] Over the years, the use of clips (and later tape) also became popular to hold the heavy damp waves until the gel dried.[4] According to "Techniques of the 1920s and 1930s":
Just so everyone knows what a finger wave is........
The process involves pinching the hair between the fingers and combing the hair in alternating directions to make an "S" shape wave. A waving lotion was applied to the hair to help it retain its shape. The lotion was traditionally made using karaya gum, but more modern styles often use liquid styling gels or hairspray.[3] Over the years, the use of clips (and later tape) also became popular to hold the heavy damp waves until the gel dried.[4] According to "Techniques of the 1920s and 1930s":
Just so everyone knows what a finger wave is........
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Peter Booth
I find it hard being disfigured and blinded but I cop. Every day children ask the question "why is his eye closed" and parents do not know how to answer. I sit on the floor, at their height and tell them I had an accident but brave doctors, nurses and policemen helped me and it does not hurt and it is fine." They then have closure. Sadly at times there is a pack instinct that turns on people and even the brave cannot always stop it. I am proud to be a role model for those who look differently and my work, which is ongoing, is changing the way the world looks at others who do not seem to "fit in the box". Happy Christmas and every Blessing whatever your faith or no faith in the New Year. Peter.
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When I first read this I thought she was taking about some kind of "hello" gesture glad l I'm not the only one who didn't know l what I'm the hell she was taking about at first!
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This hair style is a form of Sculpting which is prohibited by AR 670-1 Section 3-2 Paragraph 3.d. Sculpting is by definition within the REG as- hair sculpting (eccentric directional flow, twists, texture, or spiking). It is not authorized, because it is a sculpting method creating a texture and an eccentric directional flow.
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SSG William Wall
MSG Brian Ross - I was taught, at an "early age" (E-3), "If there's a reg, there's a way to get around it," by soldiers more senior than I. I had some commanders/section officers, who used it as a lesson in creative problem-solving.
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As a soldier with naturally wavy hair that is too short for the traditional bun I gel my hair down. Is it considered sculpting if if I’m brushing it down and it waves naturally? Looks the same as hers.
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MSG (Join to see) Natural waves are not sculpted. Waves created and held in place with gel are sculpted.
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SSG (Join to see) it is clear, and in black and white. Soldiers have been trying to wear unauthorized styles for decades. The standards have changed to be more inclusive, yet the desire to avoid complying remains unchanged.
Yes, it is too hard to list every possible unauthorized hair style, and it isn't practical. It would likely result in multiple changes to the regulation annually, as people would change the name of hairstyles so their style isn't in black and white.
Yes, it is too hard to list every possible unauthorized hair style, and it isn't practical. It would likely result in multiple changes to the regulation annually, as people would change the name of hairstyles so their style isn't in black and white.
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Im trying to understand all this hair drama you guys are having. Our women Marines don't seem to have issues with just having their hair put back, at shoulder length, or naturally grown short.
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TSgt Jennifer Disch
Africa-American hair (women) is a different issue because of the texture. In order to look clean, neat and presentable we either perm our hair, cut it low or braid it. I don’t know what the answer is but keeping it within and above regulations is the key.
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Sgt Michael Caldwell
SFC Richard Griffiths,
I've heard this excuse that the reason the Corps didn't have are problems is because we're smaller than the Army, horse crap!!
You can use all the excuses you want, but it begins in Boot Camp and Continues your whole time in the Corps, they only different ones are the Swing With The Wing Marines!!
We are not just given a rag bag uniform just because we showed up, it takes Blood, Sweat and sometimes Tears to earn the right to wear the Marine Forrest Green!
Our Uniforms are Tailored too each Marine not off the rack like the other Servics..
All of this, our History Our Brotherhood, Our Code Of Honor is what make us Marines different.
I've heard this excuse that the reason the Corps didn't have are problems is because we're smaller than the Army, horse crap!!
You can use all the excuses you want, but it begins in Boot Camp and Continues your whole time in the Corps, they only different ones are the Swing With The Wing Marines!!
We are not just given a rag bag uniform just because we showed up, it takes Blood, Sweat and sometimes Tears to earn the right to wear the Marine Forrest Green!
Our Uniforms are Tailored too each Marine not off the rack like the other Servics..
All of this, our History Our Brotherhood, Our Code Of Honor is what make us Marines different.
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SSgt Estanislado Quinones
We are all getting off on the wrong subject here. Make it uniform and everyone cut your hair off and that will take care of the situation. We must not have anything else to talk about besides hair? Really sooner or later we are going to come out to see if we need to shave our armpits or not. Let's keep it simple stupid (KISS) it. Everyone is having problems in the military now from grooming standards to I don't think it's fair that I should do what I get paid to do. We are getting to touchy, feely and cumba-ya that we can't think straight. I'm so sorry that you can't adjust to the military way of life and that everyone picks on you. Go ahead and get your hot cocoa, coloring book and go to your safe space to shake it off once you get your crocodile tears you can come back to work. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SGT Kenneth Stelly
Do you not have wimpy crybabies in the Marines yet? Apparently, the Army leadership allows wimpy crybabies.. But low and behold, the Pentagon is aware and has extended basic training, #1 reason at the top of the list is Poor Discipline, then Poor Work Ethics... It's been a long time coming... Kleenex will no longer be a basic issue item! Soldier up or be booted out...
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