Posted on Nov 28, 2013
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One of the most annoying things is busting college students for drinking. The problem is that you can at 21 at college but most graduate at 22-24, so part of the population can and part cannot.

But for the sake of argument, let's say that it is 21 and over, should military personnel be allowed to drink?
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
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<p>18 year olds should be allowed to drink alcohol, military or not. It is an unreasonable message for politicians to send by saying you are old enough to be given the death penalty, enter into a contract, win the lottery, et al..... but not drink alcohol.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The continued assumption that the level of maturity of the brain should determine the age at which you should be allowed to conduct certain activities does little more than prevent people from developing decision making capacities at younger ages. The term is infantilization. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>In addition, it sends these types of behaviors into the dark corners of society. The more you restrict the activity, the less of it you will see. That does not mean it is not happening, it means that the guidance that should be legitimate authority, authority figures, or even peer pressure, is completely absent.</p>
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I don't think the age is the problem with people getting in trouble for drinking. I have seen just as many people over 21 get DWIs and ARIs as those under 21. Being stationed in Germany and seeing a culture where the drinking age of base is 16, I have noticed it is not as big a deal as in the States. Even the Airman we get straight out of tech school generally handle it well. There are always going to be people that abuse it and get in trouble but they would regardless if the age limit were 18 or 21. Personally I think if someone has the choice to serve their country at 18 they should also have the choice to enjoy a drink. When I was 20 I served in Iraq. On the way there I was not allowed to have a drink with my team while we waited in Baltimore. Luckily no one was hurt while we were there and I turned 21 during that time as well.
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PO1 Bil Green
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In the mid 1980's the feds passed a bill that to get funding for your freeways by the feds, the drinking age has to be 21. LA later changed their law back to 18 since they were losing money. HI should have never changed theirs since at that time there were only 2 freeways in the state and they lost a ton of money with the tourists not being of age.
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SGT Russell Colburn
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The Fed does not set the drinking age for the States. That is their , (the States job). But the Feds can force them by threating to with hold money, which is what they did. As far as the Military drinking age that was Cap Weinbergs parting shot when he left as Sec. of Defense. He said the drinking age would be the same for service members as the State or Country they are stationed in. Do I think it is right? No. If that person can't be trusted when it comes to drinking how do we trust them with a half million dollars of equipment and the lives of soldiers? If one is still a kid they need to wait a few more years to join. The military needs men and women. Send the kids to school.
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SPC Brian Ezell
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Everyone should comply with the local or national drinking age regardless of whether they are military or civilian.
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CSM Mike Maynard
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Drinking age in Okinawa is 20. Honestly, I'm not seeing our 20 yr olds making worse composite risk management decisions than 21 or older.<div><br></div><div>Personally, I would feel comfortable allowing 18yr old drink. Let's go ahead and teach/educate them on drinking moderately and making good choices at 18.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Will we have incidences with 18yr olds? Yes. But it's probably the same ones that would have had incidences when we allowed them to start drinking at 21.</div>
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SPC Matthew Birkinbine
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My dad taught me at a young age about drinking moderately. I drank at age 18 only in the confines of my armory club room, and stayed at the armory on drill weekends. Nowadays it's news if I get a six pack in a 3-month timespan.
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MSG Combat Engineering Senior Sergeant
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We have lost plenty of men and women under 21 in the last 12 years. It is a travesty to look these people in the eye and tell them they are not mature enough to enjoy an "adult" beverage.

We should stop recruiting people who can go into battle with their comrades, but cannot enjoy a drink with them when it's over.

It's an embarrassing shame. 
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Full agreement MSG.
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SSG Psychological Operations Specialist
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I totally agree with you CSM Maynard.  However, the main thing that I see with this whole age limit drinking issue is that there is a microscopic percentage of underage soldiers who actaully don't drink.  What is the difference?  Underage soldiers are going to complain about it and most of them have been drinking since 15 or even younger so why harp about the law.  They could have been caught just as easy before they came into the Military but they weren't.  The only reason that this is an issue, is because they are held accountable in the Army for their actions of breaking the law.  Sounds more like a disrespect for authority.  If they are able to get by till they are 21 then good for them but if not then they should be responsible and accept the consequences but they can't because they were never made to do that when they were younger.  Mom and Dad always said it was ok as long as they didn't do it again, in which they "said" they wouldn't, then were at a party by the weekend.
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SFC James Baber
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My mentality has always been if you are old enough to die for your country, you be able to have beer for her as well, I actually was as the right age each time they changed the laws. I was 18 when it was still 18, was already 19 when it raised up for a few years, and was already 21+ when the made the current restriction to 21. I give a resounding Yes, if they can die and vote, they should be allowed to responsibly drink.
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SGM Matthew Quick
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"Responsibly drink" is the key...the many horrific alcohol-related vehicular homicides cast a large shadow over those 'just wanting a beer or two".
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Maj Icbm Systems Analyst
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Agreed! &nbsp;I was raised overseas (military brat), and in all those foreign countries, I was taught the proper way to enjoy a good beer or wine with foods (from age 7 or 8); I was taught the proper way to complement a meal with a beverage vice abuse it (even got my own favorite bottle of wine for my 10th birthday present -- for use under proper parental supervision, of course!). &nbsp;When I finally moved to America at age 15, I was culture-shocked by how all the teens would sneak alcohol at parties. &nbsp;Now, I allow &amp; teach my kids (15, 13, 11)&nbsp;the same so as to prevent their "going crazy" when out with their friends, away from me, some day.
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SrA Brian Walker
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Not a military brat, I was however raised to drink moderately.  I was given the choice of the occasional alcoholic beverage at parties/with meals during special events.  As I got older I was amazed by the number of people who "abused" alcohol when I had been drinking for awhile.  However I think what is important to keep in mind is that some people will have  issues with drinking at 18, and they would also have issues with it at 21.

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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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I was also a military 'angel' hahaha and I really didn't care to drink and I didn't really party with my friends who did even under 18.   Such were the times and maybe they are even worse these days or we just didn't know about it.
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