https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>With Big Army complaining about soldier being overweight command teams should allow soldiers to go to the gym and lift weights instead of sitting around the company doing nothing Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:02:38 -0400 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>With Big Army complaining about soldier being overweight command teams should allow soldiers to go to the gym and lift weights instead of sitting around the company doing nothing SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:02:38 -0400 2014-08-24T19:02:38-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=215785&urlhash=215785 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I was active Marine, I was restricted from the Gym for working out to much. My max weight for my height was 197lbs I weighed in at 214lbs<br /><br />Didnt make?a dress top big enough for me Cpl Clinton Britt Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:09:12 -0400 2014-08-24T19:09:12-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=215792&urlhash=215792 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely!!! Half of the time you standing around away waiting for the end of the day. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:13:11 -0400 2014-08-24T19:13:11-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=215849&urlhash=215849 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We'd have to make some distinctions here, I think :) I'm thinking by "gym" time, you are meaning "a block of time to be used for extra PT." I could be wrong, so...<br /><br />One of the wonders of the human body is that a soldier can be "overweight" per Army standard, and still smoke a PT test. Lifting weights is great for strength training, but not so much for endurance training. Additionally, of course, muscle is heavier than fat, so if "weight loss" is the goal, there may not be much of an appreciable difference. Cardio training should be emphasis. <br /><br />Well, with the idea that given an inch, some folks will take a mile...<br /><br />I'd say "Sure." I'd be proactive as a Commander. I would allow for remedial PT. It would be easy enough a program to establish, the caveat to this program would be results within a time-frame.<br />As an exchange for those 1-2 hours during the duty day, I would expect something in return: PT score improvement...within, say, three months. After these three months, you realize no verifiable change in PT scores, per INDIVIDUAL (because we all know that some Joes will inevitably screw up a bell curve.), cease the allowance for the soldiers who abused it. Continue it for those who achieved an appreciable increase in score. <br />As a Commander, it's your responsibility to set the standard, not babysit soldiers who have no interest in meeting it. Allowing freedom for improvement during duty hours is great way to gauge the seriousness of an individual in regards to their career. <br />Personal responsibility isn't inherent in every person. Sometimes, it must be taught and remedial training, in any form, will always benefit SOMEONE. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:54:44 -0400 2014-08-24T19:54:44-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=215883&urlhash=215883 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They can. It is up to their leadership. CPT Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:17:48 -0400 2014-08-24T20:17:48-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=216124&urlhash=216124 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>PV2 Elidrissi,<br /><br />No, for several reasons. Maintaining accountability would be burdensome and some Soldiers might use that time to sham rather than work out. Also, some tasks pop up at the spur of the moment, and you guys might be needed at the company on short notice. Third, it doesn&#39;t reflect well on your leaders if their Soldiers are seen at the gym every day during duty hours. Besides, if the Soldiers are motivated enough, they don&#39;t need a gym. They can do bodyweight exercises right there at the company. Also, they can work out on their personal time, if company PT isn&#39;t doing it for them.<br /><br />If you have that much free time during the duty day, then maybe you guys should work on your warrior tasks and battle drills, study for the board, knock out more correspondence courses, have D&amp;C contests, and practice writing up developmental counselings. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 25 Aug 2014 00:44:27 -0400 2014-08-25T00:44:27-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=216393&urlhash=216393 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This may be a little about your level but i can see a whole log going wrong if allowed leaving and going to the gym i would say no but doing extra pt before the day is over i would say yes. One issue i have with what your saying though is why if theres a good but of people sitting around doing nothing why isnt there an NCO making sure everyone is actively engaged in something productive? There is always something that needs to get done whether you realize it or not. If you are one of them that is sitting around doing nothing then you are wrong and if you have to take charge and gather up your peers and find something to do distinguish yourself from your peers. Talk to your Team Leader and find out what can be done that need to be. If there really isnt anything else to be done ask your NCOs about getting some extra PT done or if they arent busy ask them to teach you something and learn something from them that can make you a better Soldier or help you develop your leadership skills. SGT Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:38:24 -0400 2014-08-25T08:38:24-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=792634&urlhash=792634 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I agree PV2 Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:43:09 -0400 2015-07-05T12:43:09-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=792662&urlhash=792662 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="155087" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/155087-31b-military-police-557th-mp-94th-mp">SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member</a>, this was always my issue in the Navy too. We would commonly work 12 hour shifts and be expected to PT on our own. Even though Navy regulations (at least they used to. I don't know about now) specifically state that PT is authorized and recommended to be performed during the work day, preferably as a group.<br /><br />Some of the concerns here state "No, what if something last minute comes up and everyone is off to the gym working out on their own?" To that I reply, "Go to the gym as a division (or whatever the equivalent Army term is) and make sure that whoever is in charge has a cell phone with them so that they can be quickly recalled in the event something comes up. PO1 John Miller Sun, 05 Jul 2015 13:07:49 -0400 2015-07-05T13:07:49-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=792818&urlhash=792818 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Short answer ......sure sounds great.<br /><br />Long answer....there are often unknown and sometimes unforeseen events that would preclude this from happening. <br /><br />Simple answer.... as i've seen done .....is the commander just extends the duty day an extra hour so folks can workout on "duty time"........so be careful what you ask for. MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 05 Jul 2015 14:27:22 -0400 2015-07-05T14:27:22-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=1297160&urlhash=1297160 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are busy doing your mission, there shouldn't be enough time to go to the gym prior to the end of the day formation! SSG Audwin Scott Fri, 12 Feb 2016 08:44:25 -0500 2016-02-12T08:44:25-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=1297170&urlhash=1297170 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great idea! I do it all the time, and it makes my life satisfaction much better. My guys across the Brigade make it work too, just time management, you&#39;re a smart fella, I bet you could make it work! CSM Michael Chavaree Fri, 12 Feb 2016 08:51:20 -0500 2016-02-12T08:51:20-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=1297192&urlhash=1297192 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In a perfect world my job would consist of; Gym, food, desk work, food, training that reminds you that you are a Soldier so you can feel like a Soldier everyday, then lastly hang out with my family... Rinse and repeat CSM Michael Chavaree Fri, 12 Feb 2016 08:56:01 -0500 2016-02-12T08:56:01-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=1297321&urlhash=1297321 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends on your chain of command and mission requirements. I say if your sitting around doing nothing, then yes. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:30:10 -0500 2016-02-12T09:30:10-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=1297443&urlhash=1297443 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think so. It would encourage Soldiers to work out more often while also making use of the gyms we so often don't get to use. An additional plus would be that other Soldiers from the squad or platoon would be there to help spot or motivate their fellow Soldiers. I know a lot of people can feel uncomfortable going to the gym alone. A lot of people on this post have stated that extra work may come up and the Soldiers have to be recalled. Well if the Soldiers are at the gym on post, it shouldn't be hard to find them. SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:11:26 -0500 2016-02-12T10:11:26-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=1297531&urlhash=1297531 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's up to the command? Isn't that why they HAVE command? CDR Michael Goldschmidt Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:43:57 -0500 2016-02-12T10:43:57-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=1312650&urlhash=1312650 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's a great idea as long as all the works are done for the day and the Soldier can be found where he/she says that he/she will be. I do not like to waste Soldiers time. If you are done for the day, I would you rather be working on some correspondence courses, your civilian education, or hit the gym instead sitting in from of the computer passing time CPT Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:40:32 -0500 2016-02-18T15:40:32-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=3081725&urlhash=3081725 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That&#39;s within the command teams authority. I have been in several units were it was or twice a day 0630-0800 and 1530-1700 everybody laddy daddy SGT Lisa Fields Sat, 11 Nov 2017 00:14:16 -0500 2017-11-11T00:14:16-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=4722341&urlhash=4722341 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I No in every command that I was in, you checked out with either the chief petty officer of the first sergeant and then went to the gym called when you got there and called him when you left. My chief actually give me an extra weekend off because I did that every day for like four months PO2 William Rogers Fri, 14 Jun 2019 14:52:22 -0400 2019-06-14T14:52:22-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=4726602&urlhash=4726602 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A Soldier needs to schedule time to work out within the Duty day and off duty. Basic Training should have gotten the fat asses in shape, God knows mine did! SFC James Welch Sun, 16 Jun 2019 10:11:45 -0400 2019-06-16T10:11:45-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=4728530&urlhash=4728530 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>To me it a good idea but you know people will sham off and that a reason why they dont allow this. SPC Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 17 Jun 2019 04:09:45 -0400 2019-06-17T04:09:45-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=4736526&urlhash=4736526 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So what you are telling us is that you do not follow the direction of the chain of command. There is some downtime but how is your TOE. How is your readiness report? How did your unit do in the last IG inspection? As a SGT remember your people never go where they are supposed to go without supervision. If you have soldiers within your command that are overweight. It is your job to help them develop a plan to correct that. SGT J M Porters Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:03:27 -0400 2019-06-19T22:03:27-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=4741517&urlhash=4741517 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes CW4 Craig Urban Fri, 21 Jun 2019 17:42:18 -0400 2019-06-21T17:42:18-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=4824093&urlhash=4824093 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If your just sitting in the barracks for two hours a day your Squad leader is not doing his or her job you need to be training on something or cleaning it. Hip pocket training is what they used to call it in my day. 1SG Ernest Stull Thu, 18 Jul 2019 08:03:14 -0400 2019-07-18T08:03:14-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=5698526&urlhash=5698526 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I used to run or go to the gym at lunch hour. SMSgt Robert Anderson Tue, 24 Mar 2020 19:25:49 -0400 2020-03-24T19:25:49-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=6737465&urlhash=6737465 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Allow it? You&#39;d think they&#39;d encourage it at all cost. In fact, if I were in charge I&#39;d mandate that the gym be open 24/7. LCpl Sidney Green Thu, 11 Feb 2021 06:10:56 -0500 2021-02-11T06:10:56-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=6781384&urlhash=6781384 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It really depends. My old unit was too hectic with that last minute task, so I gave my soldiers the option to go 30 minutes early with me for lunch (if feasible each day) and that way they save a little bit of personal time not having to go to the gym directly after work. It was essentially a balance of keep command and soldiers happy. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:46:16 -0500 2021-02-27T13:46:16-05:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-command-teams-allow-soldiers-to-have-the-ability-to-go-to-the-gym-1-2-hours-prior-to-the-end-of-day-formation?n=6793461&urlhash=6793461 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Negative, Soldiers need to be spending 1-2 hours studying completing online training like correspondence courses to enhance their self development. I guarantee these Soldiers going to the gym haven&#39;t even completed the required courses for promotion. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 03 Mar 2021 22:34:40 -0500 2021-03-03T22:34:40-05:00 2014-08-24T19:02:38-04:00