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Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2015 10:29 AM2015-06-26T10:29:08-04:002015-06-26T10:29:08-04:00SGT Jeremiah B.772186<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am on the side of removing any flag representing the Confederacy from government lands, BUT it stops at the cemetery. Those men were Americans and in the wake of the war, all was forgiven. We honor our dead, even if we disagree with the cause 150 years later.Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Jun 26 at 2015 10:47 AM2015-06-26T10:47:40-04:002015-06-26T10:47:40-04:00MAJ William Guglielmi772206<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Gravesites should be off limits as SSG Aaron Walker and others do ably stated.Response by MAJ William Guglielmi made Jun 26 at 2015 10:53 AM2015-06-26T10:53:30-04:002015-06-26T10:53:30-04:00COL Jean (John) F. B.772392<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />Without question... This whole issue is nothing but liberal PC BS.Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Jun 26 at 2015 11:43 AM2015-06-26T11:43:54-04:002015-06-26T11:43:54-04:00SGT Kevin Dowd772425<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They should be left alone period!Response by SGT Kevin Dowd made Jun 26 at 2015 11:56 AM2015-06-26T11:56:29-04:002015-06-26T11:56:29-04:00SSG (ret) William Martin772484<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="588083" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/588083-ch-maj-william-beaver">CH (MAJ) William Beaver</a>, My questions are: if the grave site government property? Is the grave site private property? Is the gravesite considered public property? Is the confederate flag permanent? What does the law actually state about the banning of the Confederate flag? If its private property, you are already know the answer to that, leave it alone or be subject to whatever local laws. People just don't g visit grave sites they have nothing to do with so I don't see the big deal. We should leave individual grave sites alone. If someone doesn't like it, they can do what the normally do and that's burn down the businesses of private citizensResponse by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jun 26 at 2015 12:19 PM2015-06-26T12:19:16-04:002015-06-26T12:19:16-04:00SSgt Private RallyPoint Member772492<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have great-great grandfather that fought and died in the civil war as many people do. I think removing the flag from his gravesite would be wrong. This whole flag thing is getting out of hand. The flag had nothing to do with who killed those people in that church. He just happened to be wearing one on his jacket. If he had been wearing the rainbow flag symbolizing Gay Pride would we now have a national outcry to get rid of that flag too?Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2015 12:22 PM2015-06-26T12:22:04-04:002015-06-26T12:22:04-04:00SSG Leonard Johnson772509<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes....of course....It's their place...their home for their departed body....Leave it aloneResponse by SSG Leonard Johnson made Jun 26 at 2015 12:27 PM2015-06-26T12:27:28-04:002015-06-26T12:27:28-04:00TSgt Joshua Copeland772515<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Did they die a Confederate or did they die an American?Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Jun 26 at 2015 12:30 PM2015-06-26T12:30:12-04:002015-06-26T12:30:12-04:00PO1 John Miller772754<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely.Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 26 at 2015 1:57 PM2015-06-26T13:57:08-04:002015-06-26T13:57:08-04:00SPC Charles Brown774076<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I agree wholeheartedly.Response by SPC Charles Brown made Jun 27 at 2015 12:21 AM2015-06-27T00:21:07-04:002015-06-27T00:21:07-04:00Capt Walter Miller1158933<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No dead person ever put a flag on a grave.<br /><br />"The CSA didn’t really have much success on the battlefield. <br /><br />Federal battle deaths were 110,000, CSA battle deaths were 94,000. Since the so-called CSA was on the defensive, and the recent wide spread use of the rifled musket magnified defensive power at the expense of offensive power, those figures should show –many- more federal deaths than CSA deaths, in keeping with Napoleon’s dictum that it takes three attackers to drive off one defender. The rebels also had the advantage of interior lines.<br /><br />Federal armies in the ‘West’ went pretty much from victory to victory throughout the war, capturing Forts Henry and Donelson early in 1862, occupying Nashville not long after that, driving into north Mississippi to cut the east-west rail line to Texas, driving off CSA army after army in the investment of Vicksburg, where an entire army was captured, driving the rebels out of middle Tennessee and capturing Chattanooga, inexorably advancing on and capturing Atlanta, Savannah and Columbia. The single bad check of the western federal armies was at Chickamauga.<br /><br />In the eastern theater, Lee had as little success outside Virginia as various federal generals had within it. He is vastly overrated. After he wrecked his own army for offensive operations, he operated primarily on the defensive in an era when defensive technologies were dominant. <br /><br />Finally, when the big plantation owners reneged on their pledge to raise food stuffs to feed the soldiers’ families, the rebel armies melted away. All that “you fought all the way Johnnie Reb’ is a lot of road apples.<br /><br />One thing to keep in mind about the so-called CSA is that it never really existed. The various rebel states passed secession documents – you can do the same thing. But since they were no more able than you to give them force, the so-called CSA was just what President Lincoln called them: Combinations too powerful to be dealt with by the US Marshals.<br /><br />As the so-called CSA was busy collapsing and its armies were melting away, President Lincoln was criticized for treating with the legislature of Virginia. He had not done that he said, he dealt with a group who styled themselves as the legislature of Virginia, because they had power to effect events."<br /><br />WaltResponse by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 8 at 2015 2:00 AM2015-12-08T02:00:48-05:002015-12-08T02:00:48-05:00Capt Walter Miller1158936<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You cannot separate the Confederate Battle Flag from racism, unjust war and treason. The neo-confederates use the CBF for the purpose of in-your-face racism.<br /><br />It only belongs in the losers' corner of museums.<br /><br />WaltResponse by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 8 at 2015 2:01 AM2015-12-08T02:01:58-05:002015-12-08T02:01:58-05:00Capt Walter Miller1158941<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My GG-uncle Wilson Parks Howell was a captain in the 25th Alabama Infantry<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="https://civilwargazette.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/25th-alabama-soldier-tells-story-of-battle-of-murfreesboro/">https://civilwargazette.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/25th-alabama-soldier-tells-story-of-battle-of-murfreesboro/</a>Response by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 8 at 2015 2:05 AM2015-12-08T02:05:48-05:002015-12-08T02:05:48-05:00CPT Karen Nichols McAbee1159781<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Leave it alone. Seriously. Moving/removing ANYTHING from someone's grave can cause severe distress to loved ones. In the small, very old church cemetery where my in-laws are buried, there are several graves from the 1800's with iron CSA markers next to the headstones, signifying those who served during the Civil War. Removing those would be no different to their families than how distraught my mother-in-law was when someone stole the die-cast metal police car from my father-in-law's grave. its a memorial to who the deceased was in life - no more, no less...Response by CPT Karen Nichols McAbee made Dec 8 at 2015 11:06 AM2015-12-08T11:06:36-05:002015-12-08T11:06:36-05:00SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT1159818<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They should be left alone because they are an important part of our American history. <br />I do not understand why the complaints of the few can force an agenda on the many.<br />Many of the generals that fought on both side where originally officers in the U.S. Army <br />with a lot West Point graduates fight against their former classmates.Response by SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT made Dec 8 at 2015 11:18 AM2015-12-08T11:18:49-05:002015-12-08T11:18:49-05:00CW3 Jim Norris1160518<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yep, absolutely. Let's stop the degeneartion of our nation and then we can get back to arguing a decided issue that's 150 years old.Response by CW3 Jim Norris made Dec 8 at 2015 3:02 PM2015-12-08T15:02:49-05:002015-12-08T15:02:49-05:00Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM1543766<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is Our History like it or not~leave it alone for future generations to learn from that in which we did not.Response by Kim Bolen RN CCM ACM made May 19 at 2016 5:08 PM2016-05-19T17:08:18-04:002016-05-19T17:08:18-04:00SPC Terry Martin1576031<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, History is History and shouldn't be rewritten period! It should also be taught that way. Our Mascot at my H.S. was Colonel that some felt took on the appearance of a Southern Plantation Colonel. A newbie to town got it taken away because he felt it was "racist." Never was from the founding of the school.Response by SPC Terry Martin made May 30 at 2016 1:34 PM2016-05-30T13:34:43-04:002016-05-30T13:34:43-04:00Capt Private RallyPoint Member1576850<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Easy question to answer. ANYTHING the family places on the grave of their should be left alone. <br /><br />In the event that something is really so troubling then the powers that be should work out a solution with the family.Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2016 7:11 PM2016-05-30T19:11:20-04:002016-05-30T19:11:20-04:00Maj William W. 'Bill' Price2952994<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="588083" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/588083-ch-maj-william-beaver">CH (MAJ) William Beaver</a>.Response by Maj William W. 'Bill' Price made Sep 27 at 2017 8:24 PM2017-09-27T20:24:23-04:002017-09-27T20:24:23-04:00SPC William Weedman4321969<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not too far from my old hometown of Louisville Kentucky there is a Confederate cemetery. The white flag withe red stripe flies there everyone buried there was a Confederate soldier most of whom died at the nearby Confederate soldiers home (long gone now). Many streets in the area have name referring to the South. I have never heard a word about the place. Well kept and the flags are always in repair.Response by SPC William Weedman made Jan 27 at 2019 8:30 PM2019-01-27T20:30:48-05:002019-01-27T20:30:48-05:002015-06-26T09:55:20-04:00