Posted on Nov 19, 2016
SSG Shavonde Chase
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SSgt Carpenter
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Yes. If they aren't ready to be returned to society they shouldn't be out of prison. It does no one any good to punish somebody for life, once they're out.
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SGT David Baker
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No more Jean Valjeans.
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SSgt Carpenter
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SGT David Baker - I'll admit I had to look that reference up, but I definitely agree.
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SGT David Baker
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Yes, they paid the penalty and should now be treated as though they had never offended.

Gun rights too.
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LTC David Brown
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So every offense is a first offense? They should be allowed the rights of the second amendment. Child molesters should be treated as if they hadn't molested.? Sorry, no they forfeited certain rights.
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SGT David Baker
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LTC David Brown - Yes.

If the prescribed penalty is insufficient to "pay the debt to society", IN FULL, then it is a sentencing issue.

No more Jean Valjeans. No more yellow passports. No more lifetime punishments (other than life without parole at sentencing).

I hope for the day when, for example, releasing a person to the streets while depriving him of an otherwise Constitutionally-protected means of self-defense is regarded as an act of barbarous cruelty on a par with throwing a paralytic into a swimming pool without a flotation device-- NOT as a form of legal justice!
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SSG Shavonde Chase
SSG Shavonde Chase
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SGT David Baker - Seems like you are saying that a person should be treated freely if they are not imprisoned.
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SGT David Baker
SGT David Baker
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SSG Shavonde Chase - Yes. And, if they *are* imprisoned, then upon release.
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MSG Danny Stanley
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No. If the punishment is a certain length of prison and denial of voting rights, then that's the punishment. One cannot commit a crime and not be aware of the repercussions. Consider the punishment of a sex offender. Even after they have done their time, they are required to register as a sex offender and check in periodically for the rest of their lives. Does anyone think this is undue or excessive punishment? I do not think it's unreasonable to deny voting rights to a felon- if that is part of the punishment/sentence. However, I should add that the convicted should be told at time of sentencing that this part of their sentence. It should not be an "Oh, by the way" kind of punishment.
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