Should I go to DSS, OCS, Flying Warrant, or Walking Warrant?

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I am a SPC. I've been in 6 months. I PCS to Ft. Drum in March. I have Bachelors Degrees, and quite a bit of extra college education. I've been told I will be packing up and heading on a deployment in June. I love my MOS, not sure I want the possibility of reclassing. I know I can't drop walking warrant packets yet- but I figured I could take schools or volunteer for Drill Sergeant in the meantime.. So many things to consider..

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2016 10:29 PM

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So, what exactly are you trying to find out?

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2016 10:41 PM

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I would say step 1 would be to get to your unit and see how you adjust to the actual army outside of AIT. You have so much of the army arena to learn about, but as you do I am sure you will get a better idea of what you might want to do. The best advice I can give you is to find a mentor at your first unit, and try to observe the Soldiers in the positions that you speak of (Aviation Warrants, Technical Warrants, Officers, and Enlisted). Your degree(s) will be powerful tools for advancement and open many doors for opportunities... it will be up to you to pick the door!

Best of luck.

Response by CPT Anthony Kennedy made Jan 24 at 2016 10:48 PM

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I was in OCS with two CW3 pilots.... Both wish that had went to OCS earlier.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2016 10:53 PM

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I always recommend flying careers. They're fun.

Response by SSG Karl Fowler made Jan 24 at 2016 11:09 PM

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I retired from a flying career, so I would recommend 100% a flying career.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2016 11:09 PM

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Any of those options are going to be great in there own aspects and fields. Do you want to be in a command postion? OCS. Do you want to fly your entire military carrier? Aviation Warrant. Do you want to be a technical expert at what you enjoy doing? Technical Warrant. They are all awesome and will all take time to achieve. Me personally, aviation all the way. =)

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2016 11:22 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member What makes you think you cant drop a packet? You well exceed the qualifications required to be a pilot. You can find a step by step checklist, and example packets on the Warrant Officer recruiting page.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jan 24 at 2016 11:59 PM

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I've seen many on here with similar questions and or thoughts look at the website for the OCS foundation they deal strictly I think with the conventional OCS programs though their forum discussions are quite good they don't deal I think with WOCS for army as I recall I did 3 yrs army rotc two on scholarship and nearly passed PFT for the summer camp at ft Bragg back then I also was in an rotc detachment in Brooklyn that no longer exists though we did actually do rappelling and orienteering staying with the cadets on formation slightly in the quad and in the dining hall at West Point which was actually pretty neat in retrospect I did USAF OTS at lackland in San Antonio in 79 I had to go through twice due to s recycle the ROTC faculty were kind of floored I actually got it which was also really neat obviously my brother was kings point I actually commissioned him which was also super Nestor of course look at other services Earp their ROTC programs look at VMI which a USAF friend of mine did also look at the maritime colleges as well it'd obviously help to know your majors on your bachelors you work type ambitions if you have clinical interests look at USPHS commissioned corps or if science the NOAA Corps which has their own OCS called BOTC though they're really small 321 members though their aviation program fixed rotary is outstanding same for uscg aviation if you might consider it a family friend was army enlisted went WOCS then got his Bach in aviation from embry riddle and uscg picked him up on an early release from army to finish his 20 in rotary wing look too at usmc platoon leaders corps or PLC if you haven't thus far you might try flight that way also perhaps if you can explain more would love to try chatting further if you think might be of any help of course at anytime obviously by all means

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2016 12:52 AM

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150U UAS Tech. Aviation Career with Walking Warrant Promotion timeline AND EASY path to W4 & W5 as it is still fairly new. There are several paths for enlisted non-15Ws to get to become a 150U. Send a message and I can tell you all about it.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2016 6:33 AM

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Warrant and commissioned officer is a completely different world. Warrants are experts first and leaders second in the fact that leading troops is not their primary duty. While that is a Commissioned officers.i know you know 2LT Faulkner he could give a lot of advise on ocs. I would suggest that if you want to be a pilot to do it on the commissioned side of the house. Being in aviation make sure to get a lot of recommendations from people you work for. Word of advise be careful how you talk about your goals. The army is a jealous place when it comes to soldiers progressing faster than their leaders and peers. I myself had to deal with it when I was crossing over to the dark side.

Response by COL John Hudson made Jan 25 at 2016 8:05 AM

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Erika...I have a unique perspective as I was Enlisted, Warrant, and Commissioned, having joined the Army at age 19. Lets cut straight to the chase: The most FUN I ever had within all of that? Being a Warrant Officer. That rank let me have a foot (so to speak) in both sides as I got along wonderfully well with both Enlisted and Commissioned personnel at that time of my life. The career progression to CW5 offers incentive, and a CW5 enjoys the same protocol privilege as a full Colonel. However, every glass ceiling that ever existed has been removed and you may choose ANYTHING you want to be. From the view point of an O6, let me point out that should you go Commissioned, your 'incentive' universe will expand expositionally and the opportunities downrange are greater than any other opportunity out there (not to forget the excellent benefits in pay, housing, allowances, retirement and career)! Keep in mind that thousands of others out there before you made successful careers as a Commissioned Officer and you, at your age and education, can do just as well. The brass ring is there in front of you right this second...grab it and go!

Response by Col Dennis Arinello, USMC, Ret. made Jan 25 at 2016 8:27 AM

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Can't speak to the US Army's Commissioning Program but you're a female with a Bachelors degree - why aren't you considering going to OCS and getting a Commission?

Response by SSG Audwin Scott made Jan 25 at 2016 8:42 AM

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SPC Wetherby,
With the strong credentials that you have makes your options very great and wide open. The question for you is, what is your passion and your heart set on doing? Once you find that out you will go the path of your desire. I would however recommend going OCS.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2016 9:00 AM

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You've been in 6 months. All training I presume. I know when I went to 15T school my training from Basic to AIT completion was about 6 months in length.

It's great that you're trying to look towards the future but maybe take a moment to relax and realize that you haven't even given your MOS a chance yet. In fact, unless you've gotten to your unit you haven't actually performed your MOS yet. What you do in the schoolhouse just lays the very basic groundwork for your job.

Once you get to your unit you'll have more information that will help you determine what you should do. Maybe you'll love working on the Apache and want to become a Warrant doing that. Maybe, you'll realize you should have chosen to work on Black Hawks - especially since then you could be a real crew chief ;) and actually fly in the helicopter without having to be the one flying it.

I've had a lot of people tell me that I should have submitted a packet to fly. This was while I was still in AIT. Well, a few years down the road - I absolutely LOVE what I do as an enlisted member. I have no desire to be a pilot and no desire to be an officer.

It is possible to be a leader as an enlisted person and quite frankly, the leaders who have had the most impact on me have of course been my Squad Leader and my Platoon Sergeant.

Anyway, Aviation is an awesome branch and it doesn't sound like you're even giving things a chance.

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Jan 25 at 2016 9:16 AM

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I flew Huey's in the early 70s. Take flight training, it will be very useful later.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jan 25 at 2016 9:37 AM

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Do you remember agonizing over your selection of a major in college? Sort of feels that way again, huh? Selecting a career path in the military is virtually the same as in civilian life. So many things to consider: Personal interests and talents. In civilian life, longevity in a career is based on market forces: Principally need. In the military, longevity (will you reach retirement) is based on the needs of the service. That's something you can't know, but can provide for. You go with the flow. Put yourself out there. Volunteer for greater responsibility. Do your best. Then watch the advice pour in from your superiors. They'll recognize talent and ambition and show you the paths that are open to you. The point is that there are so many opportunities in the Army (far more than any other branch of the service) that no one knows them all. New ones will be opening all the time. In my case, I was thrown into a tunnel in Hawaii to help supervise an experimental computer project. I didn't know a computer from a toaster oven at the time, but I learned. As the general who recruited me said, "I have plenty of computer experts and still the project is stalled. What I need now is a son-of-a-bitch and I hear you're it." He was right.

Response by SSG Keith Cashion made Jan 25 at 2016 10:44 AM

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Learn your job, get some military experience behind you in a permanent party unit. 6 months of a military career is hard to gage whether or not you are suited for, cut out to be or even want to be a career Soldier. Management skills you acquired in civilian life are great, and will help you go a long way in the military, because both management styles are basically the same...just more regulations and policies with the military. Give it some time, settle in to your new atmosphere and in about 18-24 months you will have a really good understanding of what you want out of your military career and experience.

Response by SFC Craig Dalen made Jan 25 at 2016 11:43 AM

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DSS is a great opportunity but I wouldn't advise it if you plan to change to WO or attend OCS.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2016 11:47 AM

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I faced the same choices about 12 years ago. I looked at the payscale and decided I'd rather retire as a LTC than retire as a SGM or CW3/4.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2016 12:24 PM

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If you going to make it a career, I'd go to OCS.
I'm not sure if you can request DSS as a SPC, but I may be wrong.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 25 at 2016 1:06 PM

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What are your job interests?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2016 4:28 PM

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The question is what you want to do? OCS is great but is getting harder to get into it. Make sure you have a clear mind on what you want and go for it. I am an OCS grad and the only thing that I regret is not dropping my packet earlier.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 25 at 2016 6:33 PM

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Try your MOS first, I did it for 11 years no regrets, after achieving the rank of SFC, I decided to become a tech warrant, but I did enjoyed my 15R days

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jan 25 at 2016 11:20 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member I would say to keep all your options open, and then to pursue what you are most passionate about. All are good options, to include what 2LT James Montgomery said below. As CW2 Private RallyPoint Member stated, if you want to fly (a lot) you need to go Aviation Warrant. All your options are good, and it is good to have options.

But, as an OCS guy... That would be my recommendation - OCS.

Why did you not enlist on the OCS College Option?

You have time, to see what all these things are about. You have lots of options, which is good!

Climb to Glory!

Response by LTC Marc King made Jan 26 at 2016 11:08 AM

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SPC Wetherby Have you seen this: Under pilot program, enlisted soldiers can apply to West Point in one day --A pilot program designed to solve the U.S. Military Academy’s top problem with prior-service candidates could help those candidates, even the unsuccessful ones, succeed outside of West Point.
Fort Campbell, Kentucky, hosted the first Rapid Application Completion Exercise last month, with about 75 soldiers on hand to tackle a deceptively simple mission.

“The No. 1 thing you always hear is that it’s hard to get soldiers to finish their application,” said Maj. Jason Dupuis, West Point’s soldier admissions officer. “Because soldiers don’t have Mom and Dad there helping them. And an application to West Point is not more important than them doing their job as a soldier.”

So in addition to flagging unit leaders on soldiers that might make good fits for USMA, Dupuis put together RACE, which he compared to pre-deployment soldier readiness processing.

Soldiers start with the six-event Candidate Fitness Assessment, fill out their online paperwork, take the medical exam, even register to take or re-take required standardized tests. They also benefit from having West Point admissions experts on site to offer advice on improving their chances or to track down missing pieces of their file — high school transcripts, for example.

Ideally, Dupuis said, soldiers would enter RACE day with ACT or SAT scores already on file with West Point, a nomination from their company commander (necessary for admission) and some prep time for the CFA (see box). Failing that, he said, “just show up on the morning of the RACE hydrated and ready to go. Even if nothing is done ahead of time, a full day focused on completing this application is way better than doing it piecemeal.”

Side benefits

West Point has up to 170 prior-service soldier slots available for each year’s class — half of those are active-duty, and not all are filled each year. There is no strict quota, as troops must compete with other applicants for admission. Those who don’t make the cut may be eligible for the USMA Preparatory School, which provides 10 months of focused academic work and counts as a year of service toward retirement, GI Bill eligibility and other benefits.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jan 26 at 2016 11:18 AM

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You need to ask yourself:
1) what are your professional goals in the Army?

2) what does it take to meet those professional goals?

Deciding to got to WOC or OCS needs to be done with the bigger picture in mind. Do you want to do something only an WO or officer can do? Then by all means apply. Do you want to ultimately affect the bigger picture in the Army (ie policy, regulations, etc)? Then yes, at the end of the day, that is what officers do. Do you want to be a technical expert? Go Warrant. Do you want to lead and supervise Soldiers directly and focus on the more immediate day-to-day stuff? Staying enlisted and becoming an NCO is probably what you should do.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Jan 26 at 2016 1:34 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member My advice while your considering your options at Drum, get plenty of long johns and a case of Yukon Jack.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 27 at 2016 12:15 PM

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It all depends on your long term goals in life. What do you want to achieve and what is success for you? I knew great Soldiers with degrees who wanted to be NCOs. I knew other great ones who wanted to be WOs.

Ask yourself what you consider to be success and then determine what you have to,do to achieve it. Take your time in deciding, but don't take too long that you miss opportunities; don't let fear of failure prevent you from trying. Good luck.

Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Jan 27 at 2016 1:06 PM

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My recommendation- OCS

Response by MAJ James Fitzgerald made Jan 28 at 2016 5:46 PM

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You are in a good position to make the right decision for you and your career. You have multiple degrees, plus additonal education, so that puts you in a good position to make choices. I like the advice you have received from other members. I had a friend that was a Flying Warrant on Active Duty and in the Reserve Forces, now retired...he flew various fixed-wing aircraft during his service. He also flew medical helicopters for a good long time as well in the civilian world. He was very happy with his choices. Being much older now, I can say without any reservations that being happy with your choice is most important...I would also say to make sure of your choice, because time has a way of going by quickly, and in some cases age will catch up with you. Although not my service, the AF has many degreed NCO's, and the Army is getting more and more all the time...some of the best people I came in contact with were CSM's, SGM's and 1SGT's...alll that said, research your options carefully, talk to some recently commissioned officers, especially OCS graduates, who can share his/her experiences. WOCS is certainly a viable option, and my advice is the same...talk to some WO's, flying and other wise, so you can get a perspective, both pro and con on being a WO, some of the most respected people wearing the uniform today in my humble view...going to WOCS or OCS will be different than going through the training you have experienced thus far, challenging your physical and mental skills directly on a daily, if not hourly basis might be a good way of describing a primary difference...thank you for your service to our country and all the best in the future...MAJ Fitz

Response by CW4 Keith Dolliver made Jan 29 at 2016 11:59 PM

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As numerous others have said, first you need to decide what your end-state goal is. While you can drop your Flight Warrant packet now or OCS you need to make sure it's what you ultimately want to do and not just an interim step. The days of WOs dropping OCS packets are over and likewise, the days of RLOs becoming WOs and going to flight school are virtually over as well so whatever you choose for a path you will mostly be "stuck" in. I say mostly, because officers can still request to transfer branches and go into different functional areas, but if you go Warrant that is the branch you will stay in.

If your main goal is to fly and you think that's what you want to do after you get out of the army as well, then your only real choice is WO, and any aviation officer will tell you the same. If you think you would prefer to command and ultimately have a bigger affect on the army further down the line, then commissioned officer is for you. If you go commissioned officer and branch aviation then you have a limited time to blend both, but just go in knowing that you will eventually promote yourself out of the cockpit. As a commissioned officer your flight time will diminish drastically after CPT.

Personally, if I were you I would start both packets and see if you meet all requirements. Hold off on LORs until you actually know what you want to do, but if you don't get a passing score on the SIFT or pass the flight physical then your decision just became a lot easier.

Response by 1LT A. Uribe made Feb 6 at 2016 8:12 AM

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I would go officer, but that's just my opinion from someone that transitioned from senior NCO to Officer via OCS.

Response by CW3 Joseph Vishneski made Nov 16 at 2016 2:55 PM

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By fareWOC flight school.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2016 3:13 PM

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I love the "drop a packet" comments that make it sound like something you do on your way to the store. If your choices are still that broad then you need to get where you're going and see what its all about. See what Chief does and make sure you are willing and able to take on that role. Being a Warrant comes with great benefits but also tons of responsibility that you will learn as you progress through the NCO ranks.

On the other hand if you want to fly then go now while you're still used to being treated like a private because that's what Bravo company is like according to my buddies that went through there.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2016 6:11 PM

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thats a decision for you to make you need figure out what is it that you want to do . As for Drill SGT you would need to be a SGT at a minimum with two years TIG in order to volunteer for it I am not sure if that has changed from when I was a Drill but thats what it was when i was selected as a E5. Its hard work long days and nights and very little time off but the reward is great and the pride you feel seeing what you have helped to transform civilians into soldiers. I loved it but it took a toll on my family life so choose wisely

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2016 10:42 AM

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If you plan on being an NCO I would got to drill sergeant school. If you want to be an officer go to OCS or Warrant school. You'll have to have some NCO time under you before you go to drill sergeant school though.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2016 4:05 PM

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I love you desire to be better. You're mentioning some great ideas here.

First, let me address the drill sergeant topic. I earned my hat and badge over two years ago now. Being a drill sergeant is hard work, and it takes more than just volunteering. You need to have time in. These future soldiers will expect you to sit down and tell them stories about your time in the army. They will expect you to give them advice on the options they have once becoming a solider. They will expect you to give them advice on how to be a better soldier. this job requires experience mentoring, supervising, and leading soldiers. Right now, Drill Sergeant School is not an option for you. Later down the road? Absolutely! But absolutely not right now. Spend time as an enlisted soldier, then spend time as an NCO, then make sure you are comfortable and ready to get in front of people who have no clue what's it's like to be a soldier, and make them one.

You speak of so many options. In my opinion, take this time to just understand the army more. It's too early in you career to start thinking about WOCS and DS. Does that mean you can't? No. If I were to tell you to pick one, I'd say pick OCS because that is one that requires little to know prior experience. They will teach you exactly how to be an officer.

Lastly, my biggest advice is Be, Know, and Do. Be the best soldier (enlisted, NCO, or officer) you can be. Know everything you can (know the jobs of 2 ranks above you, and 1 below you). Do your job (MOS and Basic soldier skills) to the best of you ability and ask if you need help.

Hooah!

Response by CW5 Donna Smith made Nov 22 at 2016 2:58 PM

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First of all and most importantly, ALL Warrant Officer walk!! What do you want to do? How do you see yourself in the bigger picture? What's your passion? Those are the questions to answer. If you want to be an Aviation Tech Warrant Officer, you know you have to wait. If you want to fly and flying jazzes you, then fly. DSS, unless it really calls you, I would think twice. What's your passion and follow that passion. Just saying. After serving 32 years in the Army, I personally recommend going Warrant Officer.

Response by GySgt David Weihausen made Nov 22 at 2016 3:02 PM

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You need to get in the green to gold program (or whatever they call your commissioning program nowadays) immediately. Go find your Career Planner(or retention specialist or whatever the Army calls it) and get that package rolling and you into OCS.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2016 11:22 PM

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If you are promotable to Sgt then you could possibly drop paperwork for DSS. Generally though they want SGT's E-5 and above. I was in one of the last classes that allowed Promotable specialist and corporals. May have changed again as they periodically do but I suggest talking it over with your first line and if possible some Drils either on the trail or have been in the past. If you go this route it is a commitment but it is worth it

Response by CW5 Donna Smith made Jan 17 at 2017 4:16 PM

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All Warrant Officers are walking Warrant Officer. I have yet to see one sprout wings and fly!!! What do you want to do with your career? What do you want to experience during your career in the Army? Those are the questions you need to answer and then follow that path.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 23 at 2017 1:24 AM

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Submitting an OCS packet might be the best path since you already have a degree. It's only a three month school to make the switch but you are at the mercy of an OML for branch selection. If you have a specialization you can submit a packet to HRC while you are at OCS and they will accept it if your specialization will benefit the Army. For credibility purposes I had a signal branch packet accepted there last summer.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 12 at 2019 11:11 PM

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http://www.ocsfoundation.org

You might find this of interest, it leaves out Army WOCS and direct commission indoc OIS programs, however, the forum pages are quite good....

OCS Foundation

SERVICES FOR: Candidates Alumni Officer Families

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 12 at 2019 11:20 PM

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Also, try to elaborate if you can, exact assocs and Bach, Amy grad level coursework, GPAs, grades, majors, STEM coursework dome thus far, hobbies, interests, reading, sports, incl !martial arts if Amy, the more you relate, the more I and others !might suggest...further, you're possibly not being exhaustive enough in looking...Navy restarted WO1 for cyber recently, Army has tat direct commission cyber you likely know of already, or, you could try for direct commission indoc OOS programs...being rotary wim g aircraft maintenance, you'd clearly be a seeming perfect fit for Army WOCS for rotary wing, we have a family friend who did it, then got his Bach in aviation from Mebey Riddle, Army let him go, USCG picked him up, he finished his 20 yes as a USCG O-3, he'd orig been Army enlisted...there's also the USCG flight program, as well as NOAA Corps, which has a 5 ye term involved, lemme send more...also, don't ignore USPHS Commissioned Corps, even if you don't want clinical, they do use engineers, comp sci (CS), and IT, call [login to see] , their recruiting lime, I'd wanted to go tat way before total perm disability, I trained under a USPHS O-6 while doing my clinical allied health doctorate, we shut my license sevl yes ago due to my disability...if tour care to chat or have me suggest Kore, le!!e know...look also at USCG direct commission for engrg, I'd also check warrants in other svcs, esp that Navy WO1 cyber thing I'd mentioned....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 12 at 2019 11:21 PM

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http://www.omao.NOAA.gov

This is the NOAA flight page....

Office of Marine and Aviation Operations |

Learn about the NOAA Diving Program, which trains, certifies, and equips personnel to safely support underwater missions

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 12 at 2019 11:22 PM

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http://www.usphs.gov

Look at the USPHS COSTEP, Jr and Sr, as well as the nonclinical pages for fields like engrg, CS, and IT, also there are others as I'd explained....

www.usphs.gov

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 12 at 2019 11:32 PM

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Further, I've seen a good deal on here that ROTCs can be used for grad school...look also at USMC platoon leaders course (PLC), I'd expect it, as well as USPHS COSTEP, which I'm reasonably sure about, can also let you do grad work, for !asters and PhD, if you have possible major interests for those, elaborate on them...finally, if you want Army WOCS for flight, have you done any mil aero club stuff by you? Sport pilot? Private pilot? Instrument rating? Multiengine? Commercial? Helicopter? Civil Air Patrol (CAP? iSCG Auxiliary aviation flotillas? I only mention those to give you exposure that could boost tour chances, that's my sole point, elaborate more, as I'd said if you can, OK?