Should I have a change of rater when being promoted to SSG?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:07:10 -0400

I’ll likely be promoted to SSG on 1 November 2018. My current rater is my NCOIC, also a SSG. My current rating period ends mid to late February. Should I do a change of rater right away or just wait until this rating period is closed out a few months after?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 3:33 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:33:55 -0400

Yes, CoR. With the new system you cannot be rated by someone your same rank.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 6:19 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:19:10 -0400

I’m having a hard time finding this in 623-3. Any ideas where to find it?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 6:41 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:41:42 -0400

I found this in AR 623-3, Chapter 2, Paragraph 5, Section c:

c. DA Form 2166–9 series (NCOER) rater eligibility. The military rater will be a SGT or above and senior to the rated NCO by grade or date of rank (see AR 600–20).

This tells me it can be a person of the same rank as long as they are senior in grade OR greater time in rank.

Response by SGM Jeff Mccloud made Sep 24 at 2018 9:19 PM

SGM Jeff Mccloud — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:19:21 -0400

If you will still be working directly for that same SSG, he remains your rater, he has date of rank on you. Your annual ending in FEB 2019 will be a SSG NCOER, annual.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 9:56 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:56:16 -0400

You're still good to have your NCOIC as your rater as they have seniority over you with DOR.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Sep 24 at 2018 11:18 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:18:28 -0400

Why do folks think THEY have to initiate their rating? It is the responsibility of the Rater to initiate the rating. The rated can/may provided data- but the Rater is the one to do it.

Response by 1SG Timothy Trewin made Sep 25 at 2018 1:50 PM

1SG Timothy Trewin — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:50:46 -0400

If he outranks you then he can still rate you if he is still your Rater. It’s not the best practice to be rated by someone of the same rank and should be avoided if possible, but it is totally within the regulations.