Posted on Dec 11, 2019
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Since the passage of the 22nd Amendment the question has also been asked, especially in the last 30 - 40 yrs about term limits on members of Congress.
Some have suggested the following:
- Converting terms from member of the House of Representatives from 2 to 3 yr terms. Then allowing no more than 5 -6 terms
- Retaining terms in the Senate at 6 years but limiting to 4 terms
- Requiring members to have in the house (with changes mentioned above) to have amassed a minimum of 4 in order to be pension eligible
- Requiring members in the Senate to have completed at least three terms to be minimum pension eligible
The ideas above have been considered to refresh the tree of liberty by the people via the ballot and Congressional "performance" so that our nation not only has some collective memory in the halls of Congress, but that collective memory is developed into a more COLLABORATIVE process for the benefit of the governed.
NOTE: Please be respectful in your responses as all voices are welcome to this post.
Some have suggested the following:
- Converting terms from member of the House of Representatives from 2 to 3 yr terms. Then allowing no more than 5 -6 terms
- Retaining terms in the Senate at 6 years but limiting to 4 terms
- Requiring members to have in the house (with changes mentioned above) to have amassed a minimum of 4 in order to be pension eligible
- Requiring members in the Senate to have completed at least three terms to be minimum pension eligible
The ideas above have been considered to refresh the tree of liberty by the people via the ballot and Congressional "performance" so that our nation not only has some collective memory in the halls of Congress, but that collective memory is developed into a more COLLABORATIVE process for the benefit of the governed.
NOTE: Please be respectful in your responses as all voices are welcome to this post.
Posted 5 y ago
Responses: 15
The term limits laid out above are way too high. Six terms in the House? Four in the Senate?
For Senators, that is almost a quarter century.
The way I'd do it is limit the total amount of service in ANY federal elected office to no more than 12 years, combined across any office.
Want to be a two term senator and be President?
Sorry, chuck.
I think we need to get our elected officials more connected to we the people, and that means making politics not a way of life. Some of these people have literally never been held accountable by voters, so they can say whatever nutsy stuff comes to mind and act like it is serious and sober. And still get reelected.
Ever notice how the adults in the room tend to be from competitive districts or states? Not a coincidence.
For Senators, that is almost a quarter century.
The way I'd do it is limit the total amount of service in ANY federal elected office to no more than 12 years, combined across any office.
Want to be a two term senator and be President?
Sorry, chuck.
I think we need to get our elected officials more connected to we the people, and that means making politics not a way of life. Some of these people have literally never been held accountable by voters, so they can say whatever nutsy stuff comes to mind and act like it is serious and sober. And still get reelected.
Ever notice how the adults in the room tend to be from competitive districts or states? Not a coincidence.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
"Some of these people have literally never been held accountable by voters,"
Incorrect, Senators are held accountable every 6 years, Representatives every 2, as you know.
Incorrect, Senators are held accountable every 6 years, Representatives every 2, as you know.
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MSG Stan Hutchison - Facing reelection is not the same as being held accountable. Just ask the current crop of House Democrats.
If you have a district in down town Atlanta (Maxine Waters), San Francisco (Pelosi), or NYC (Nadler), you don't have much to worry about in terms of elections. That is the opposite of accountability to voters.
It is unfortunate, but some voters are so low information that they will keep sending their guy/gal back for another term on the same platitudes they've been fed for decades. Those are the kinds of elected officials that espouse crazy ideas - the ones that have little to fear of a primary or GE opponent putting them out of a job and having to do work in the real world where the boss expects results.
If you have a district in down town Atlanta (Maxine Waters), San Francisco (Pelosi), or NYC (Nadler), you don't have much to worry about in terms of elections. That is the opposite of accountability to voters.
It is unfortunate, but some voters are so low information that they will keep sending their guy/gal back for another term on the same platitudes they've been fed for decades. Those are the kinds of elected officials that espouse crazy ideas - the ones that have little to fear of a primary or GE opponent putting them out of a job and having to do work in the real world where the boss expects results.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
1SG (Join to see) - Oh, you mean like Don Young, Richard Shelby, and Jim Sensenbrenner? Which, by the way, have all been there longer than the ones you named.
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MSG Stan Hutchison - Yup, them too.
Undoubtedly, you can see the correlation that I am referring to. It knows no political lines, but seems to be more acute in urban districts.
If you go over to the Senate, there are states where the incumbent has nothing to worry about (ie CA, HI, ND, WY, NY) and they tend to be the ones that espouse more extreme positions too.
You don't typically see that in places like CO, MO, FL, and WI, because there is a real chance a challenger could bounce them out of office. Of course there are outliers (Rick Santorum comes to mind).
In my district, we kept sending Michelle Bachmann to the House over and over and damned if I know why. She used to brag all the time about all of the transportation dollars she brought home, typically in the form of bike trails. That line of thought kind of collapsed when the I-35W bridge fell into the Mississippi river due to lack of maintenance.
Finally, people where like WTF? and she decided that she would go back into the civilian sector and be a lawyer again.
Undoubtedly, you can see the correlation that I am referring to. It knows no political lines, but seems to be more acute in urban districts.
If you go over to the Senate, there are states where the incumbent has nothing to worry about (ie CA, HI, ND, WY, NY) and they tend to be the ones that espouse more extreme positions too.
You don't typically see that in places like CO, MO, FL, and WI, because there is a real chance a challenger could bounce them out of office. Of course there are outliers (Rick Santorum comes to mind).
In my district, we kept sending Michelle Bachmann to the House over and over and damned if I know why. She used to brag all the time about all of the transportation dollars she brought home, typically in the form of bike trails. That line of thought kind of collapsed when the I-35W bridge fell into the Mississippi river due to lack of maintenance.
Finally, people where like WTF? and she decided that she would go back into the civilian sector and be a lawyer again.
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Absolutely in favor of term limits for any Political Member!!!! With one Caveat. Any time there is a Government Shutdown, ALL members of our Government are automatically up for re-election that year. We will find people to do their job and come up with a budget and not shut the Government down.
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SSgt Richard Kensinger
Give them 1 month, and i am being generous here! They should donate volunteer time and then depart.
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MSG (Join to see)
Cynthia C. - I agree, maybe it would force them to not take weeks off at a time, and put them in a room to figure some stuff out. if unsuccessful they can explain to their constituents why they were not able to do it later that year when they have to go through another election. Cant figure this out sir or maam? well lets see if we can find someone that will is my theory!!!
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CPO Nate S.
MSgt Robert "Rock" Aldi - Here is a cross reference of interest - https://www.rallypoint.com/shared-links/voters-still-want-term-limits-for-congress-rasmussen-reports?loc=similar_main&pos=0&type=qrc.
Voters Still Want Term Limits For Congress - Rasmussen Reports | RallyPoint
If you are following the Mitch McConnell Q&A: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/senate-majority-leader-mitch-mcconnell-here-what-questions-do-you-have-for-me
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I think that term limits would be helpful. Leaving it up to voters in local elections when the incumbent has such a huge advantage, especially the longer they are in office doesn't seem to be working
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SSgt Richard Kensinger
The longer they serve the more they are committed to top donors, not us. BTW, I do not contribute to any campaigns at any level in any manner.
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