SFC Private RallyPoint Member 41242 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What items need to be taken into account when making this decision?  2014-01-20T18:00:41-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 41242

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What items need to be taken into account when making this decision? 

2014-01-20T18:00:41-05:00 2014-01-20T18:00:41-05:00 1LT Private RallyPoint Member 41247

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Only if there is an open slot that must be filled, no valid slot at the current unit, or the new rank could cause issues.  An example for the latter would be an on-going romantic relationship with what used to be a peer and is now a legal subordinate.<br><br>The step from hanging out with peers and dodging details to leading former peers and supervising those details is an important one an NCO must make in order to mature as a leader.<br><br>EDIT:  Well, I learned something today.  Turns out that combat arms takes a very different stance and has the capability to affect such moves.  Good stuff, I say.

2014-01-20T18:07:01-05:00 2014-01-20T18:07:01-05:00 CSM Private RallyPoint Member 41251

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I was promoted to SGT it was a Battalion policy that all newly promoted NCOs regardless of rank move platoons. Those that were select for senior NCO ranks were mandated to move companies. I think it&#39;s a great idea because it gives that NCO the opportunity to start new without the everyday pressures of their former peers hanging over them.&amp;nbsp;

2014-01-20T18:11:51-05:00 2014-01-20T18:11:51-05:00 CMC Robert Young 41275

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>The Coast Guard advancement process requires everybody in each specialty to compete for promotion against all other members in the same specialty service wide. The result is that people are almost automatically required to PCS simply because advancements are made across the entire service instead of through local commands. Once advanced the member goes to the billet no matter where that billet is...typically not in the same unit because we are so small. This eliminates the opportunity to supervise your "friends".</p><p><br></p>

2014-01-20T18:52:58-05:00 2014-01-20T18:52:58-05:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 41314

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe 1SG Rink answered this in the best way possible already. Within a given battalion, there is usually not an issue with MTOE slots (don't forget Army Manning Guidance states Soldiers can serve 2 skill levels up and 1 skill level down when necessary in order to fill shortages).

2014-01-20T19:51:51-05:00 2014-01-20T19:51:51-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 41318

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>At the very least I think a newly promoted E-5 should be moved from the platoon he was a SPC in.  I know it's often a lot harder in some areas/MOS.  But it makes the transition from SPC to SGT easier for the promotee.

2014-01-20T19:58:17-05:00 2014-01-20T19:58:17-05:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 41325

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've always maintained we should move more anyway. If you have any under strength companies anywhere in the Army, and you have any over strength companies anywhere, so long as the MOS's jive, you should send the excess from one company to another, regardless of geographical location. That's something I've never understood about our promotion system. We might make sure we have the right amount of NCO's per MOS, but we don't ensure they are all in the right locations. That's just luck of the draw. You MIGHT have someone in your under strength unit make points and fill a vacancy, OR maybe all the guys over in that over strength company will make points.. Do we factor "point of need" at all? Of course not...

2014-01-20T20:10:40-05:00 2014-01-20T20:10:40-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 53909

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In units that you have been in are new NCOs that has just pinned E-5, expected to pick up and go as a team/squad leader? What mentoring programs are available to the new sergeants? 

2014-02-08T19:03:58-05:00 2014-02-08T19:03:58-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 54049

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>SSG Love,</p><p><br></p><p>As a young Sergeant, I will say that I can see your reasoning behind moving the NCOs. It provides an opportunity for a fresh start, so to speak. But, I feel as if the new NCOs should remain in their position. Reason being, is because that NCO needs to learn how to separate himself WITHOUT it being done for him. I also feel that if that NCO has to learn to separate himself, this will give him a leadership experience that he will not forget, thus allowing him to give his Soldiers advice on how he goes about separating himself when his Soldiers become NCOs. I DO see where you are coming from, and I am not opposed to moving upon being promoted, but I just feel as if staying and learning to separate would be the better way for the NCO. Great topic!</p>

2014-02-08T22:45:46-05:00 2014-02-08T22:45:46-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 54307

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a newly promoted Sergeant, I wasn't given the opportunity to move to a new platoon. I had to take charge of my friends when I was promoted and it was a very hard transition. My PSG told me right after my promotion that I could no longer be friends with the guys who I had been friends with for years. I thought he was being an Ass for lack of better words. I soon realized I had to separate my friendship with business. I feel this experience made me a stronger leader and realized being an NCO is about business and nothing personal. As some of you may have realized it's harder to be in charge of and correct your friends than it is anyone else.

2014-02-09T11:35:54-05:00 2014-02-09T11:35:54-05:00 1SG Johnny Carter 54313

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe it&#39;s a a positive thing to move newly promoted NCO&#39;s. One it gives them a fresh start with a new squad and takes the peer pressure away from them with their peers that they passed up. Also give them the opportunity to have new NCO&#39;s to help develope them for the next level. When I was promoted I moved Companies and it had a huge impact on me for the positive. It&#39;s tough now a days for SGT&#39;s to discipline their battles that not too long ago they were hanging out and partying it up. Cause friction with some so the move helps prevent issues. Plus the variety of new leadership always helps fill your tool kit to better prepare you!

2014-02-09T11:48:25-05:00 2014-02-09T11:48:25-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 54314

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Up to the Battalion CSM, but I think yes.

2014-02-09T11:49:40-05:00 2014-02-09T11:49:40-05:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 55176

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I haven't had the authority to effect moves within the Battalion but my 1SG and I agreed that when a SPC promoted to SGT then we ensured they moved to a different Platoon and were placed in a minimum of a Team Leader position.<br>Our primary concern was getting the new NCO into an environment where they could be successful.  In a unit of 80 Soldiers there was still potential they would be with their friends and the NCOs often argued they did not need these moves to guarantee their professionalism.  My feelings are once you move one newly promoted NCO you must remain consistent throughout your command.<br>The 1SG and I would have NCOs come up to us 3-4 months later and thank us for moving them while noting their initial displeasure with the decision but remarking how much more they grew since they had to learn personalities and build their team.<br>I absolutely agree with 1SG Rink based on my experiences that newly promoted NCOs should be placed in another Platoon or Company.<br>

2014-02-10T21:41:41-05:00 2014-02-10T21:41:41-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 55212

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>1SG Rink has the best answer - as usual :-) but I do have one thought to add.</p><p><br></p><p>The maintenance of professionalism in the unit is not only the responsibility of the newly promoted NCO but of their junior enlisted pals. I have always advocated that new NCOs be moved but if that isn't possible and in my MOS it often isn't, it is very important that we (as more experienced NCOs) step in and have "that" chat with the juniors. </p><p><br></p><p>When we get the really young ones in the unit, it isn't uncommon that they have not yet developed an exocentric view and still see only through the "how does this affect me" lens. Many times that chat will save weeks of squad pain. </p>

2014-02-10T22:31:06-05:00 2014-02-10T22:31:06-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 55966

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A newly promoted NCO should be moved. Even if he/she cannot be moved to another company or battalion they should at least be moved to a different team/section/platoon. It's hard enough making the transition from junior enlisted to NCO without the added pressure of being put in charge of soldiers that were your peers two days ago. There is also the fact that you are now the same rank as people who were your superiors. It would be great to think that everyone is mature enough to handle this, however, we know that this is not true. By moving the NCO we are giving them a chance to start over, at least a little bit, and to grow as a leader.

2014-02-12T01:56:32-05:00 2014-02-12T01:56:32-05:00 SGT Chris Hill 56082

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Its a good thing to be switched to a new unit upon promotion, that's how it should be yes. But that rarely happens, so from what I've noticed is that making that transition from lower enlisted to NCO is a good learning experience for both lower enlisted and that NCO. If you're forced to cut ties with lower enlisted, it shows the importance of that transition. It can be challenging but that's a lesson learned

2014-02-12T09:54:54-05:00 2014-02-12T09:54:54-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 56637

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe they should be moved espeically if they have been in the unit for a long period of time. 

2014-02-13T07:45:15-05:00 2014-02-13T07:45:15-05:00 SFC William Swartz Jr 56659

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ideally yes, if at all possible move the NCO to another company/troop/battery..this will negate(more than likely) any possible issues of buddy-buddy between former peers and will allow the NCO to grow in an environment where there should not be an issue of fraternization with said former peers. If this is not possible/practical, then at least moving the individual to another platoon/section within the unit will also negate these issues somewhat.

2014-02-13T08:41:53-05:00 2014-02-13T08:41:53-05:00 SFC Benjamin Parsons 57002

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Frankly,  it shouldn't be necessary.  The things that made him an NCO will garner him the necessary respect from his former peers to allow him to continue to function at a high level while continuing the mentorship of those who enabled his promotion.<div>If there is some discomfort (at any level) for some reason I suppose it should be considered though.</div><div>I was aware some units practice this.  I was asked if I wanted to move.  Never served in a unit where it was mandated.</div>

2014-02-13T22:09:23-05:00 2014-02-13T22:09:23-05:00 SGT Alicia Brenneis 192367

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes they should be moved. I think this should also depend on the length of time they have been in a unit. If they have only been their only a few months there is no need to move them. New leaders need to be evaluated by new eyes and should not have the "we are friends" fight. It is difficult to break yourself away from your (now) junior soldiers. If it comes down to not knowing the new position or dealing with something that you are not familiar with.. get familiar. As soldiers we have to adapt quickly to new things/changes. As leaders we have to set the example of adapting.

2014-08-02T11:10:43-04:00 2014-08-02T11:10:43-04:00 2014-01-20T18:00:41-05:00