Posted on Dec 18, 2013
Should not being ABN, AASLT, etc qualified prevent you from going to promotion board or NCOES?
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Just found out that there are units who require Soldiers to attend a ABN, AASLT, or similar schools in order to be recommended for a promotion board or to even attend a NCOES school. Should not being qualified in these courses, or any other course not required for your MOS, prevent you from doing so?
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Promotion Board
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This question is a good one. Here is my answer. When a Soldier is being recommended for promotion are we not recommending based off POTENTIAL????? I think so and with that being said not having either school should not stop you from be recommended for promotion. NOW as Soldiers you should want to separate ourselves from our peers so to do that WE must take advantage of ALL schools and course set forth. When you are going to the Soldier or NCO of the Month boards those are deal breakers that will crush a Soldier. So as leaders we must push and push our Soldiers to the limit to be the best and ABOVE their PEERS. If you are in an ABN Unit then go ABN if your in am AASLT Unit then go to AASLT. These numbers actually are looked at hard by BIG Army.
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SPC (Join to see)
I agree with your response and would like to add that by recommending a soldier based off potential generally sets the stage for subordinates to be motivated in accomplishing these schools and furthering there leadership skills.
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MCPO (Join to see)
Johnny, I'm going to argue with you on this one.
If SPC(P) Smith is waiting for the cut and the unit goes to war - and all the E-5's in the unit are killed - you're gonna give Smitty those chevrons, right? Is Smith ready NOW?? If not, why are you recommending them for promotion?
They should be ready for that rank on the day the board meets - not on some imaginary day after that.
If SPC(P) Smith is waiting for the cut and the unit goes to war - and all the E-5's in the unit are killed - you're gonna give Smitty those chevrons, right? Is Smith ready NOW?? If not, why are you recommending them for promotion?
They should be ready for that rank on the day the board meets - not on some imaginary day after that.
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I am in an Airborne unit and I have my wings, but in order to go to the promotion board for E-6 they strongly urge you to complete jump master. Otherwise you get frowned upon.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
Sergeant....Go to Jumpmaster.....I did and YOU WILL LOVE IT. Hanging out the door is a great ride....and being able to move about the aircraft is cool too. Add a Star and Wreath, becoming a Master Blaster IS all that and a Bag of Good Jerkey too.
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82nd, 101st, Special Mission BDES, most of which are volunteer assignments by the way, require one or more of these qualifications to be able to do the job you volunteered for. If you are not Airborne at 82nd, you will not get promoted because you fail to meet minimum requirements for a unit you volunteered for.<br><br>Now, if your unit is not authorized these slots, or adequate training opportunities (most of your non "special-operation" units have 2-3 spots available a year, which usually go to a promising LT or SGT), making that a requirement to promote would be inappropriate.<br><br>So, if you don't want to go to jump school, but still want to get promoted, don't volunteer for a unit on jump status. Plenty of "leg" units out there right now.<br>
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SSG (Join to see)
You shouldn't have to change duty stations to get promoted to SGT the overall quality of what you bring to the table and the needs of the Army should be good enough...don't pander to units that as I said in an earlier thread are really toxic leadership...as the numbers above stated about the duty station not everyone is AASLT qualified at Fort Campbell yet there are lots of NCO's and Senior NCO's without your so called wings... It is a esprit de corps issue but not everyone is cutout for Ranger, ABN, AASLT, Pathfinder schools etc... your fine and if you were my Soldier I would not hold back your career for a two week school that only gives you ten or twenty promotion points I would rather you follow ALM 2015 and the ARMY Profession Model and get SSD I, ALC-CC, and WLC completed before I focused on other military schools..
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SPC William Wambolt
I never understood why anyone would volunteer to jump out of a perfectly good aircraft, just sayn!
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SFC (Join to see)
Fort Campbell isn't the only post with an Air Assault course.
The proverbial "they" can impose whatever restrictions they like, but if they don't have a plan for you to accomplish them, there's not much point.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SPC William Wambolt, most of the military pilots I knew were airborne and /or air assault qualified. If the pilot jumps, what you going to do? the plane is only perfectly good as long you safely stay in it
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