Should the 82nd ABN DIV lose their Airborne Status because of budget cuts?

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:27:23 -0400

There are rumors that the 82nd abn div will loose their airborne status October 1st 2014. I don't really believe it. Just want to throw the question out there.

Response by MSG Martinis Butler made Apr 22 at 2014 5:58 PM

MSG Martinis Butler — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:58:25 -0400

I think that this is something that budget cuts should not impact at all. Something like this has really shown us that we are not only being smart where we place our money but also not being smart decision makers

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2014 6:32 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:32:13 -0400

<P>Every year as the new fiscal year approaches, people start voicing their opinions on things that would save the military money in their opinion. That is heard by others and then construed as what is going to happen. As you stated it is a rumor and there are hundreds of them every year.</P>
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<P>Rest easy Airborne and keep your pack ready, you will be jumping. If I was the CSM there and heard that rumor, I would schedule an "and you believed the hype" jump on the second of October!!</P>

Response by SGT James Elphick made Apr 22 at 2014 7:04 PM

SGT James Elphick — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:04:22 -0400

There are certain personnel in Division that are never going to jump in a combat situation and they should probably be taken off jump status. I know there are many different feelings and view points about this but to me that is a good way to save some money.

Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Apr 23 at 2014 5:22 PM

LTC Yinon Weiss — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:22:19 -0400

Depends... according to the Duffel Blog... <div><br></div><div>Public Service Announcement: The Duffel Blog is not a real news site. It is satire.</div><div><br></div><div>Don't listen to rumors. Big decisions don't get made on rumors. The next time you hear a "rumor" -- ask them "where did you read that?"</div><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://www.duffelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/airborne.jpg"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/04/82nd-airborne-legs/">82nd Airborne Division To Lose Famed 'Airborne' Status</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">The nation's most famous Airborne division will soon be just another infantry division at the end of the fiscal year.</div></div><div style="clear:both"></div><div class="pta-box-hide"><i class="icon-remove"></i></div></div>

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2014 5:34 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:34:09 -0400

Should Sailors lose sea pay because of budget cuts? Should the 75th lose demo and airborne pay? What about all of SF?<div><br></div><div>Losing combat-proven capabilities due to budget tightening is certainly not good force management, or talent management, and it isn't even good money management.</div>

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2014 2:07 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Apr 2014 02:07:30 -0400

Absolutely not. Enough said.

Response by SSG Leo Bell made May 20 at 2016 4:55 PM

SSG Leo Bell — Fri, 20 May 2016 16:55:55 -0400

I wouldn't think they would completely get rid of the 82nd. They would down size it before getting rid of it. Although we don't use the airborne tactics on the current day's battle fields you never know when you will need it.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2016 5:40 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 May 2016 17:40:59 -0400

Same rumors I heard when I first got therm in 1987

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made May 20 at 2016 5:41 PM

MAJ David Vermillion — Fri, 20 May 2016 17:41:59 -0400

Having served with the 82nd in 1970-72 with B/2/325 Infantry, it's difficult for me to say I agree with it loosing it's airborne status. Just think about the pride of the division and how these soldiers are willing to go the extra mile. The airborne soldier is a breed ahead of all others. I am against it totally>

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2016 6:42 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 May 2016 18:42:38 -0400

I'm sorry...I've got nothing to add here except that I'm laughing.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2016 7:19 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 May 2016 19:19:48 -0400

I doubt this will ever happen.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made May 20 at 2016 7:47 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Fri, 20 May 2016 19:47:34 -0400

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member, in my opinion, no.

Response by SFC David Pratt made May 20 at 2016 9:36 PM

SFC David Pratt — Fri, 20 May 2016 21:36:06 -0400

Feet and knees together airborne; the 82nd will keep jumping. If your worried about military budget cuts vote republican. Or, keep riding out those <1% annual pay increases.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2016 10:21 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 May 2016 22:21:54 -0400

I was wi9th XVIII Corp when the 101st went Airmobile. Talk about a morale killer. Budget cuts huh. How about all the bonuses given to all Federal employees? 70 Million last year for the IRS. And thats for starters.

Response by CW3 Douglas Branson made May 21 at 2016 11:42 AM

CW3 Douglas Branson — Sat, 21 May 2016 11:42:07 -0400

I can't imagine it would. Having served in the 82d multiple times, there is no other unit in the conventional army with as much pride. It would be devastating to the morale of the division (past and present troopers). There are so many other options to the budget concerns.

Response by CW4 Anthoney Lowry made May 21 at 2016 3:03 PM

CW4 Anthoney Lowry — Sat, 21 May 2016 15:03:04 -0400

You guys realize you resurrected a 2 year old duffleblog article right?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2016 8:23 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 May 2016 20:23:00 -0400

NOOOO. WE ARE OUTTA CONTROL!!!

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Jun 22 at 2016 9:30 AM

MSG Dan Castaneda — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:30:17 -0400

I personally think not everyone in the 82nd should be on jump status. If you are no longer in Brigade or lower capacity. The chances of you ever engaging in an airborne insertion are slim to none. There is no need for the Division staff to rig up, your BCT CDR will be the ground force commander.

Response by SSG Martinez Jesus made May 7 at 2017 11:40 PM

SSG Martinez Jesus — Sun, 07 May 2017 23:40:28 -0400

Never the 82nd should loose there colors