Should the Air Force make a permanent transition from the ABU pattern to the OCP/Multicam pattern?

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 02:16:20 -0400

Response by TSgt David Holman made May 6 at 2015 2:38 AM

TSgt David Holman — Wed, 06 May 2015 02:38:18 -0400

The SF guys here wear multicams when they trip out to the field. When they are doing on base duties, they wear the ABU. Honestly, I think we need to have one set utility uniform for the entire military, and let our service uniforms be the distinguishing factor

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made May 6 at 2015 4:16 AM

GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad — Wed, 06 May 2015 04:16:34 -0400

Perhaps its time for ALL the branches to make a permanent transition to ONE standard multicam uniform and stop the madness altogether. As a taxpayer, I would certainly appreciate seeing DOD stop wasting money on developing "new and improved" cammies every damn time someone gets a wild hair up their butt.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made May 6 at 2015 7:15 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Wed, 06 May 2015 07:15:46 -0400

Are the runways the USAF use green or brown or some variation thereof?

Are the runways the USAF use a color similar to the ABU pattern?

Would it make sense to authorize USAF personnel "embedded" or "deployed" in environments where the ABU is not appropriate to where the Combat Uniform of the dominant US Military Force? i.e. if attached to US Army, wear OCP, or if in an arid plains environment with Marines, wear MARPAT.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 7:40 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 07:40:26 -0400

I think we should go with the Where's Waldo pattern. I can never find that guy!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 9:38 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 09:38:07 -0400

Longing for the days of the BDU, where the only real difference were tapes, ranks & covers (for Navy/Marines). Whole lot of money saved there. You could easily integrate the tech updates from the ABU/ACU into the BDU.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made May 6 at 2015 10:46 AM

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Wed, 06 May 2015 10:46:00 -0400

Just pick one for the DoD!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 11:33 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 11:33:23 -0400

My opinion is that all of the services should go to a single, one color uniform for all land operations. I'd go with OD green (I like the Israeli shade better than the old OGs, but that's just me.)

Personnel whose jobs entail the conduct of dismounted ground combat operations - infantry, cav scouts, combat engineers, EOD, forward observers/FACs/TACPs/ANGLICOs, medics assigned/attached to such units, etc - would be issued theater specific (desert, woodland, etc) camouflage uniforms when they deploy.

If your job doesn't entail dismounted combat ops, how much do you really need a camo-patterned uniform anyway? If the bad guys don't notice the tank/cargo truck/wrecker you're riding around in, the fact that your uniform is OD green or coyote with no pattern isn't going to make a difference. It sure as heck won't make any difference out on the tarmac, or FOB, or whatever.

I'd leave shipboard uniforms up to whatever the Navy and Coast Guard can agree on. Special ops is special ops, they can do whatever works for them.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 12:56 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 12:56:10 -0400

Just what we need...another uniform change.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 1:08 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 13:08:42 -0400

As it appears the other services are starting the transition I think we should too. I believe it could lower cost on the utility uniforms for our people if we all have the same uniform. The way we stand out should be with our service dress. We don't need people standing out from others on the battlefield or in joint exercises. One team, one fight, one uniform. Also what other than blending a group together we aren't really camouflaged with much else.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Jul 25 at 2015 12:10 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:10:20 -0400

All branches should have the same patterns, etc. more and more we are all deployed in the same location.

Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Jul 25 at 2015 4:15 PM

LTC Jason Bartlett — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:15:28 -0400

No because we need someone to laugh at. ;)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2015 4:33 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:33:11 -0400

Is it me or is the AF just like the Army's little brother. They just want to look like us.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 26 at 2015 8:10 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:10:24 -0400

There is no tactical reason for ABUs. We stand out in all of the possible terrain there is in the world.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2015 10:42 AM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:42:12 -0400

If all branches would go back to the same uniform we could, potentially, save millions on research and development alone.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2015 11:12 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:12:34 -0400

In my opinion, all services should wear the same combat uniform when on or around the battlefield. I used to hear the counter argument about losing heritage or pride in one's branch of service. To me that is what the different Service Dress Uniforms provide. When its time to go to battle, one team, one uniform, one fight.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Aug 10 at 2015 11:36 AM

SSG Warren Swan — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:36:27 -0400

BDU's worked just fine.....

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2015 4:22 PM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:22:14 -0400

Yes I do believe we should. It would temporarily cost more money, but if we had one set uniform then it would allow the DoD to save money in research, and having to make so many different kinds of uniforms. Also using the "one military, one uniform" argument. Our dress uniforms is what set us apart.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 12 at 2015 4:42 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:42:52 -0400

My yes vote is for the pattern and the comfortable material.