SGT Bradley Dixon 8151225 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The current US Army temporary promotion guidance policy is to advance soldiers to the ranks of SGT/SSG without completing BLC, while those who have completed all three requirements for promotion (DLC, BLC and promotion boards) are only advanced to the rank of E4/CPL until assigned to a vacancy. <br /><br />The problem is this; Soldiers who have completed only 2 of 3 requirements to attain the rank of SGT/SSG are promoted, with pay ranks and privileges, and are able to retain their rank upon completion or graduation from BLC.<br /><br />However, their peers who have completed BLC, DLC and board are only promoted to the rank of CPL/E4 and either A) Cannot make points because of max points [798]; B) Dont have an assignment; C) Are not pregnant or never have been; D) Are not deployed OCONUS.<br /><br />My solution is to modify the current guidance to something of the following:<br /><br />Any SM who is otherwise qualified to advance to SGT, but has not completed either BLC or DLC1, and has successfully won or been selected for promotion by board, will be promoted to the rank of CPL/E4 and have all ranks, pays and privileges of such rank. Upon successful completion and graduation of BLC/DLC1 SM will be recommended to the rank of SGT/E5 and promoted IAW with regulation.<br /><br />Any SM who is fully qualified to advance to the ranks of SGT/SSG and have completed the applicable PME (BLC/ALC) and DLC 1/2, and have been recommended by the board to be promoted to SGT/SSG, will receive a promotion regardless of duty position, and will receive assignment orders within 60-days to unit vacancy or transfer to unit within selected mileage (USAR less AGR).<br /><br /><br />I see this policy as a cheat code, and a good way to lose good soldiers. <br /><br />What are your thoughts and what do you recommend to be done? Thoughts are welcomed, please comment below! Should the Army’s current temporary promotion guidance be changed? 2023-02-24T16:13:22-05:00 SGT Bradley Dixon 8151225 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The current US Army temporary promotion guidance policy is to advance soldiers to the ranks of SGT/SSG without completing BLC, while those who have completed all three requirements for promotion (DLC, BLC and promotion boards) are only advanced to the rank of E4/CPL until assigned to a vacancy. <br /><br />The problem is this; Soldiers who have completed only 2 of 3 requirements to attain the rank of SGT/SSG are promoted, with pay ranks and privileges, and are able to retain their rank upon completion or graduation from BLC.<br /><br />However, their peers who have completed BLC, DLC and board are only promoted to the rank of CPL/E4 and either A) Cannot make points because of max points [798]; B) Dont have an assignment; C) Are not pregnant or never have been; D) Are not deployed OCONUS.<br /><br />My solution is to modify the current guidance to something of the following:<br /><br />Any SM who is otherwise qualified to advance to SGT, but has not completed either BLC or DLC1, and has successfully won or been selected for promotion by board, will be promoted to the rank of CPL/E4 and have all ranks, pays and privileges of such rank. Upon successful completion and graduation of BLC/DLC1 SM will be recommended to the rank of SGT/E5 and promoted IAW with regulation.<br /><br />Any SM who is fully qualified to advance to the ranks of SGT/SSG and have completed the applicable PME (BLC/ALC) and DLC 1/2, and have been recommended by the board to be promoted to SGT/SSG, will receive a promotion regardless of duty position, and will receive assignment orders within 60-days to unit vacancy or transfer to unit within selected mileage (USAR less AGR).<br /><br /><br />I see this policy as a cheat code, and a good way to lose good soldiers. <br /><br />What are your thoughts and what do you recommend to be done? Thoughts are welcomed, please comment below! Should the Army’s current temporary promotion guidance be changed? 2023-02-24T16:13:22-05:00 2023-02-24T16:13:22-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 8151725 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is false information for the most part. If you&#39;re active duty you only get promoted to SGT/SSG if you are DLC complete, you have passed your boards and have your p status and you made the cutoff for points. If you are a CPL it&#39;s because you didn&#39;t have enough points. I can&#39;t speak for how the reserves or national guard does promotions. Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 24 at 2023 10:00 PM 2023-02-24T22:00:17-05:00 2023-02-24T22:00:17-05:00 SSG Roger Ayscue 8151740 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This ... Tis right here ... is why the Army needs to bring back the Specialist ranks and to utilize the CORPORAL more. <br />If a Soldier is NOT fully qualified but is in a leadership position waiting for some school slot or to get back from a deployment make that Soldier a CORPORAL in a leadership position. <br />If the Soldier is in a soft skill MOS and is not actually in a leadership position but needs to advance make them a Specialist 5 to give them the promotion and pay raise but not becoming an NCO until all the criteria are met. Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Feb 24 at 2023 10:23 PM 2023-02-24T22:23:18-05:00 2023-02-24T22:23:18-05:00 CSM Darieus ZaGara 8152067 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You have clearly articulated the process, it seems as if your primary frustration is with MOS’s aside from your own who have a lower points requirement. Points system is set in order to fill specific requirements within a given MOS, promoting Soldiers without available positions makes no sense. Soldiers have opportunities to change their MOS throughout, if they are dissatisfied with the one they are in, that includes limited promotion opportunity. <br /><br />This is not just with junior NCO’s while the Senior NCOs don’t have points, they have an OML, I personally waited 24 months after selection for E8 and E9 respectively. <br /><br />You sound very well versed and frustrated, I recommend you take those research skills, use the energy provided of your frustration and do what you can to fix it. You’ll not change the selection/promotion policy, but you can find a new opportunity. Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Feb 25 at 2023 6:44 AM 2023-02-25T06:44:32-05:00 2023-02-25T06:44:32-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 8153855 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s a big system, with a big game, and rules and policies brought forward through lots of committees and lots of stars. <br /><br />Become versed in them, and find your path of least resistance to the goals you want to achieve. <br /><br />CSM already pointed it out. <br /><br />Go where the opportunities are. <br /><br />The higher you get in rank the less opportunity you will have to Re-Class, but those MOS&#39;s you hold as secondary might come in useful much later in your career. So stack them while you can. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2023 12:14 PM 2023-02-26T12:14:31-05:00 2023-02-26T12:14:31-05:00 SGM Bill Frazer 8155511 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s a good question, but we are dealing with the Puzzle Palace- When you get 4 stars please change it Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Feb 27 at 2023 12:06 PM 2023-02-27T12:06:03-05:00 2023-02-27T12:06:03-05:00 SMSgt Bob Wilson 8155799 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The Army is between a rock and a hard place on this issue. Junior NCOs need management [or leadership (sic!)] training; however, Senior NCOs should have military management training prior to joining the this &quot;select group&quot;. With personnel &quot;jumping shop&quot; daily, the experience level is dwindling and promotions [however, they are selected, are urgently needed. Is it fair? That is in the eye of the beholder. Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made Feb 27 at 2023 4:36 PM 2023-02-27T16:36:39-05:00 2023-02-27T16:36:39-05:00 2023-02-24T16:13:22-05:00