Should the Marines' Hymn be revamped?

2014-06-14T11:54:13-04:00

I know, I'm a deep turd for bringing it out in this politically sensitive democracy (don't hate on me too much) but the devil dogs seem to devalue Army and Navy when they say "...if the Army and the Navy ever look on heavens scenes, they will find the streets are guided (correction: guarded. Thanks, PO3 John Jeter) by United States Marines." Should they or should they not?? Let the showdown begin, heh heh

Response by MAJ Ron Peery made Jun 14 at 2014 11:57 AM

2014-06-14T11:57:18-04:00

Never! In our business, tradition is important. And it IS a great song.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2014 7:39 PM

2014-08-06T19:39:28-04:00

Not at all. Depending of what version of Anchors Away you listen to...

"Stand Navy down the field; Sails set to the sky;
We'll never change our course, So Army you steer shy-y-y-y;
Roll up the score, Navy, Anchors Aweigh;
Sail Navy down the field, And sink the Army, sink the Army Grey!

Get underway, Navy, Decks cleared for the fray;
We'll hoist true Navy Blue, So Army down your Grey-y-y-y;
Full speed ahead, Navy; Army heave to;
Furl Black and Grey and Gold, And hoist the Navy, hoist the Navy Blue! "

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Aug 6 at 2014 7:40 PM

2014-08-06T19:40:51-04:00

Simple answer HELL NO, and in total agreement with MAJ Ron Peery Tradition is hugely important.

And, we need to get away from being so sensitive and return the whole of the military to the purpose of fighting. PC does not win wars, strength does.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2014 9:56 PM

2014-08-06T21:56:02-04:00

Nuff Said.

I Wouldn't Give A Bean
To Be A Fancy Pants Marine
I'd Rather Be A
Dog Face Soldier Like I Am

I Wouldn't Trade My Old-O D's
For All The Navy's Dungarees
For I'm The Walking Pride
Of Uncle Sam

On Army Posters That I Read
It Says "Be All That You Can"
So They're Tearing Me Down
To Build Me Over Again

I'm Just A Dog Face Soldier
With A Rifle On My Shoulder
And I Eat Raw Meat
For Breakfast E'V'RY Day

So Feed Me Ammunition
Keep Me In The Third Division
Your Dog Face Soldier's A-Okay

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2014 11:57 PM

2014-08-06T23:57:33-04:00

The Marine Corps hymn has gone through several revisions. Historically to commemorate self-perceived great deeds. I guess the real question is has the Corps done something worthy of a modification to the hymn?

Response by CMDCM Gene Treants made Aug 7 at 2014 12:36 AM

2014-08-07T00:36:57-04:00

Not only no, but Hell no! I have served on two Gators and part of my blood runs green as a result. USS Cambria (APA/LPA -36) and USS Nashville (LPD-13). My Marine Det at Cherry Point taught me a lot when I was at my last Command - FASO.

I Love my Knox Class Frigates and I really, really fell head over heals for My ANZIO (CG-68) Aegis Cruisers are AWESOME!, but serving with Marines is a fantastic experience.

As I have said in another post, if it all goes nuts in this country and the bottom falls out, I would love to have a couple of Marines at my side and a US Navy Corpsman. So, if I find Marines Guarding Heavens Gates, when they are off duty, their drinks are on me in Fiddlers Green!!!

Response by CPO Christopher Chumbley made Aug 7 at 2014 2:16 AM

2014-08-07T02:16:22-04:00

I worked with the Corp quite often. I am not sure what you mean by revamp. I love the hymn just the way it is and I do not feel that it devalues the Army or Navy. I would feel it to be a great honor to follow any path guarded or guided by US Marines. I would not mind if they added stanzas about Khe San, Falluja, or Bavu Grabe though.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Aug 7 at 2014 6:18 AM

2014-08-07T06:18:20-04:00

No, leave it has it is. I feel better knowing someone is standing guard up there. Besides, I think the verse is more a nod to their embassy duty role than a dig on the other services.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2014 7:57 AM

2014-08-07T07:57:32-04:00

I say no as well. Traditions are an important part of the fabric of our service and many of our traditions face attack everyday from those that would see them changed to appease the minority. Leave it alone.

While we are at it, can we stop changing/altering the Army Song already!

Response by SSG Harper Peterson made Aug 22 at 2014 1:41 AM

2014-08-22T01:41:26-04:00

Petty Officer, when you die you can go through the Pearly Gates (assuming the Marines guarding them let you in (lol) or you can see your local Marine Recruiting Office and get PCS orders to heaven and guard them yourself. The Corps isn't changing anything to accommodate anyone's feelings of being devalued. Semper Fidelis!

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 26 at 2014 4:24 PM

2014-08-26T16:24:11-04:00

NO WAY! The Marine Corps hymn is timeless.

Response by SSG Maurice P. made Sep 11 at 2014 6:55 PM

2014-09-11T18:55:14-04:00

hell freakin no john paul jones...that hymn is here til this world explodes...

Response by SPC Nancy Detwiler made Sep 15 at 2014 1:39 PM

2014-09-15T13:39:48-04:00

Ok everybody, I really enjoy a good inter military smack down, but in the long run, we are all here for the same reason...we all decided to serve our great country in one way or the other. We are all veterans. I've worked side by side with men and women of all the branches and have the utmost respect for all of them, and you! The only exception are the inmates of the USDB at Ft. Leavenworth. This isn't meant to say that y'all are plumb silly, I'm enjoying the banter! So carry on! Hooahhhhh!

Response by Cpl Glynis Sakowicz made Sep 15 at 2014 2:23 PM

2014-09-15T14:23:33-04:00

As one of the Marines on this site, I had noticed that there were no Marines that had commented here, so here goes.
The Marine Corps Hymn is our history, its bits and pieces of our past, set to music. Its like our uniform... each little decoration MEANS something to us. From day one, we know that we aren't just in the military, we REPRESENT ALL MARINES, past and present, and to those in the future, we show them what they can be, should they want to push themselves.
We are no better or worse than any other service, our missions are ours, and yours are yours, and yes they overlap, but we double-time to our own drummer. Our hymn is not just a song we sing, when those words are said, every one of us FEELS the meaning of those words, and I am a little dumbfounded that others don't sing their own hymns with as much reverence and respect as we do ours.
Sumarizing... and I don't know if I spelled that correctly... We like our Hymn and we are keeping it, so keep your "PC" hands off it!

Response by PO3 John Jeter made Sep 15 at 2014 7:11 PM

2014-09-15T19:11:58-04:00

The Marines may guard the streets, but the Navy carried them there......*grin* Just a little funnin' my green brothers!
I'm liable to get my shellback card taken away for saying this, but I'll risk it. I have the utmost, and profound respect for the USMC. I mean no slight to any of our armed forces, but the Marine is what comes to my mind when I think of the American fighting man. In general, they are the "fast movers" who open the door for our larger forces to come in and set up. In total, we have the finest armed forces in the world, bar none. But the Marines tend to be what grabs our enemies attention first. So, to answer the original question; The Marines (rightly or wrongly) devalue anyone who isn't a Marine......but that certainly doesn't stop them from fighting and dying for them. Leave that song alone! BTW, the lyric should read "the streets are GUARDED by United States Marines" Incidentally, it is the oldest official song in the United States Armed Forces.

Response by SSgt Dan Montague made Dec 7 at 2014 7:42 PM

2014-12-07T19:42:20-05:00

For all who didn't notice, it is the Marines' Hymn. Not Marine Corps Hymn. The hymn should not be altered. The only alteration was done after WWI when "In the air" was added.

I must also add that I know many Marines who are guarding Heavens gates right now. It is an honor that will never be taken from them.

Response by PO2 Corey Ferretti made Dec 7 at 2014 7:47 PM

2014-12-07T19:47:26-05:00

Yes and the Navy Seabee paved that street. No i think it is fine. If someone is offended by it i think they need to quit being so sensitive.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Dec 7 at 2014 8:40 PM

2014-12-07T20:40:25-05:00

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member, of course not! I can promise you, the Marines do not care about the lyrics of any other service song, poem or ditty, and could not care less about what the other services think of theirs. I'd let this one go. Right, Capt Richard I P.?!

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2014 2:21 AM

2014-12-09T02:21:10-05:00

Absolutely not!! That hymn is there recollection on their past triumph and legacy of the corps, that like trying to revamp anchors aweigh! Not gonna happen

Response by Sgt Melinda Enfinger made Dec 10 at 2014 1:27 PM

2014-12-10T13:27:55-05:00

If the Army and the Navy get their feelings hurt over those lyrics, what makes you think they would be worthy to guard the streets of Heaven?

Marines take as much crap as anyone from a trash-talking perspective and get more crap when it comes to funding/quality of life issues. So, if that means God flies a Marine Corps flag on his mansion, who are we to argue? ;-)

NOTE: IAW the rules of the kinder, gentler military, be advised that the above is said in jest and is not hate-speech or service branch-baiting. Further, it is not intended to imply that God endorses one branch over the other (He does...) or that the Air Force won't make it to Heaven.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2014 11:07 PM

2014-12-11T23:07:44-05:00

Dont hate on the marines just because the other branches songs and mottos suck.

Response by Cpl Christopher Bishop made Feb 25 at 2015 2:22 PM

2015-02-25T14:22:06-05:00

So long as the Marine Corps maintains higher entrance standards than the other branches, nothing should change. And to even suggest it should be changed merely points to one's own internal feelings that they couldn't/wouldn't meet those same standards.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing any other service-members here. We all play our part. Many never even considered the Corps for a multitude of reasons when thinking to serve. And that's fine.

But don't take a thing away from those in the Corps. In this era of Entitlement Society which is going to send a few of its lovely faces into the military---faces whom only are doing it for the "What's In It For Me?" latching on to college money or healthcare or whatever...and couldn't care less about any real cause of belief in the altar of freedom...surely the Corps likely has the lowest percentage of these types of folks...Marines take on more and personally gain less, and we do it out of Heart...and its often that Heart that gets us passing the higher entrance standards...its NOT that we are always the biggest, baddest, buffest types. I will speak for myself here...I went to USMC Recruit Training at 5'11, 131lbs. I was the skinny twig. I graduated at 165lbs. Still not a huge guy then, but for me that was RIPPED. But the point is I didn't arrive that way. Heart, and the Mind Over Matter can take you farther than you ever imagined.

Semper Fi.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2015 2:37 PM

2015-02-26T14:37:24-05:00

Why would a Sailor present this question, all of our blood runs green when we fight in the jungle, brown when fighting in the desert, and blue when at sea...it's good ole rivalry. Get over yourself. This is bigger than you or I. Think about the Sport Team Rivalry between the military....are you going to next ask if we shouldn't have chants against the opposing teams? First In...Marines Kill, they know what to do when shit hits the fan.
Furthermore, the Marines fall under the Dept of the Navy...so why throw your brothers under the bus?

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made Feb 26 at 2015 3:04 PM

2015-02-26T15:04:53-05:00

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2015 4:03 PM

2015-02-26T16:03:57-05:00

Why should they change?? My personal feeling is that the Army has made a critical error in judgment in getting rid of unit patches on the ASUs, and at one point they were even talking about getting rid of "corps" insignia, so that a Captain is a Captain is a Captain. I'm not a line unit commander, but I would imagine every line unit CO (hell, ANY commander) would agree with me: I want my Soldiers thinking that they are the best. When the shit hits the fan, that "swagger in your step" could be the difference between success and failure. 101st ABN in Bastogne: Surrounded and nearly out of food and ammo, they didn't sing the praises of the armor that busted them out....saying "We were almost done for!" Instead, they still insisted that they "didn't need rescuing".

I am friends with Marines, Sailors, Soldiers, and Airmen. We all rib each other. It's part of the fraternity of the military. But whenever one of us needs help or is in trouble, we are ALL there. THAT is the only part that matters. I'll still slap a "Soldier's Sweetheart" magnet on my Navy friends locker, or joke that the only action that the Air Force will see is on the adult DVDs sent from home on their 3 week deployment....they'll still remind me that being medical is "almost like being in the Air Force". But we are still a Family, and when the rubber meets the road, we know that we have to rely on each other for the support necessary to accomplish the mission.

People are too damned sensitive anymore, and frankly I've always admired the Marines for their adherence to tradition. The Army seems to change it's uniform more than some people change their underwear, and although insignificant, it's hard to take pride and promote a sense of tradition when there are very few symbols around to remind Soldiers of that tradition.
v/r,
CPT Butler

Response by Cpl Dean Cook made Feb 26 at 2015 4:13 PM

2015-02-26T16:13:59-05:00

Simple. NO. The Marines Hymn is the Marines Hymn. End of discussion.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Feb 26 at 2015 8:49 PM

2015-02-26T20:49:42-05:00

I can't believe you posted this question.

Response by CPT Chris Loomis made Feb 26 at 2015 8:54 PM

2015-02-26T20:54:01-05:00

Negative. Leave the Marine Corps Hymn alone. Throw the devil dogs a bone.

And besides, if they want to guard the streets-let'em! I've guarded enough streets on cold days and/or nights...it can be miserable.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2015 11:18 PM

2015-02-26T23:18:44-05:00

I couldn't care less about about a perceived slight in their hymn. We all have our own ways of building Esprit De Corps.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2015 9:47 AM

2015-02-27T09:47:58-05:00

I am Army. No skin in this game.

Response by Cpl Glynis Sakowicz made Dec 3 at 2015 1:19 PM

2015-12-03T13:19:09-05:00

Don't change a word of it.

Response by PO2 Mark Saffell made Dec 3 at 2015 1:26 PM

2015-12-03T13:26:59-05:00

Im Navy so I don't worry about that. They are part of us. Heck we provide the Doctors and dentist and im sure other things.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2016 6:47 PM

2016-03-21T18:47:25-04:00

Bro, I'm guessing your question was partly a joke, just to see what you could rile up on here. The Corps stays more consistent with its traditions than the other branches; it's part of who they (we) are, so of course they shouldn't change it. It's more proper to call it the Marines' Hymn, by the way, not the Marine Corps Hymn. The Marine Corps Hymn is the hymn titled "God of Our Fathers ".

Response by Sgt David G Duchesneau made Mar 21 at 2016 7:49 PM

2016-03-21T19:49:31-04:00

Ok, you just opened Pandora's Box. WTF-Over? Why in hell would anyone want to change what has worked for years and years. For God's sake, it's the Marine Corps Hymn! It's been this way forever. Like that old saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." It's our tradition, it's our heritage, it's our song, so leave it the fu-k alone! Now that is what this Marine thinks! SEMPER FI my Brothers and Sisters!

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Mar 22 at 2016 1:19 AM

2016-03-22T01:19:12-04:00

Hell NO!! Keep it the way it is. We need to be reminded of our history and the shores of Tripoli remind us that we have been fighting Islamic terror from the beginning!

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Mar 22 at 2016 1:23 AM

2016-03-22T01:23:58-04:00

No, see you are looking at it wrong. The USMC may be guarding the Pearly Gates, but God is a Sailor! HAAHHAHAHAH

Response by SSgt Jim Gilmore made Mar 22 at 2016 2:53 AM

2016-03-22T02:53:51-04:00

Why do we need more revisionist history? Leave it alone...

Response by Cpl Jacob Dipzinski made Mar 22 at 2016 4:27 AM

2016-03-22T04:27:19-04:00

Hell no

Response by Maj John Bell made Mar 22 at 2016 5:39 AM

2016-03-22T05:39:56-04:00

No. I had no idea the Army and the Navy were so sensitive.

Response by LCpl Sean Hotchkiss made Mar 22 at 2016 6:34 AM

2016-03-22T06:34:36-04:00

I feel these songs promote camaraderie between the services and pride in service as well as pride in the service in which you (general you) chose to enlist. I would not vote to change these service hymns.

Response by Sgt Douglas Nash made Mar 22 at 2016 7:16 AM

2016-03-22T07:16:36-04:00

I would say since the Marines have the longest history since 1774, it would be simular to changing the national anthem, so not only no, Hell No!!#

Response by Cpl Stephen Daly made Mar 22 at 2016 7:26 AM

2016-03-22T07:26:08-04:00

No!!!

Response by GySgt Patrick Gerdeman made Mar 22 at 2016 7:34 AM

2016-03-22T07:34:24-04:00

I guess in this day and age of everyone getting butt hurt over the smallest issues someone would bring this up.

Response by Sgt Brett Thomas made Mar 22 at 2016 7:35 AM

2016-03-22T07:35:05-04:00

Sure... While we're at it, lets change the Marine Corps' EGA and America's national anthem .

Response by Cpl Darrell Curless made Mar 22 at 2016 7:41 AM

2016-03-22T07:41:31-04:00

HELL NO! You should be ashamed to even bring it up. Someone ought to bitch slap you!

Response by Sgt Steven Eckert made Mar 22 at 2016 7:52 AM

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Response by 1stSgt Matt Leland made Mar 22 at 2016 7:54 AM

2016-03-22T07:54:53-04:00

Hey swabbie, you want to be a part of the Marines Hymn??? Go to PI and earn the title of Marine..

Response by Maj John Bell made Mar 22 at 2016 8:04 AM

2016-03-22T08:04:38-04:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIKeSPK6I3g

Maggot!!! Why are you not at the position of attention!!!?

USMC

Response by Cpl William Novak made Mar 22 at 2016 8:36 AM

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NO WAY SEMPER-FI!!!

Response by Cpl Jason Oherron made Mar 22 at 2016 8:45 AM

2016-03-22T08:45:08-04:00

Who guards the White House?

Response by Cpl Tim Daudelin made Mar 22 at 2016 8:49 AM

2016-03-22T08:49:20-04:00

But Marines are superior and the hymn has been there since 1888
No change we have the best army and Navy in the world
The Marines are the first to fight for a reason we've been the best for 200 + years and that hasn't changed
Semper Fi

Response by GySgt Bruce Gilbert made Mar 22 at 2016 8:51 AM

2016-03-22T08:51:46-04:00

NO WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by Cpl Cary Cartter made Mar 22 at 2016 9:01 AM

2016-03-22T09:01:07-04:00

Sure thing - right after the Army stops rolling their caissons ... and the Navy quits trying to figure out how much their anchors weigh.

Response by Sgt William Cominos made Mar 22 at 2016 9:03 AM

2016-03-22T09:03:18-04:00

Let the games begin! LOL!!!

Response by Sgt Joseph B Campbell made Mar 22 at 2016 9:21 AM

2016-03-22T09:21:21-04:00

Leave it alone!!!

Response by Cpl George Goodwin made Mar 22 at 2016 9:33 AM

2016-03-22T09:33:49-04:00

Remember, on the 8th day God created the Marine Corps

Response by Sgt Able Snider made Mar 22 at 2016 9:35 AM

2016-03-22T09:35:04-04:00

"devalue Army and Navy" Come on now....the answer is hell no.

Response by SSgt Rusty Warner made Mar 22 at 2016 9:51 AM

2016-03-22T09:51:01-04:00

The verse you are referring to is talking about Marine Embassy Duty. We can't change the verse without first changing the history of the responsibility. You can't change history, but you can make it. I recommend those comrades in arms who want to be more like the Corps just take the challenge and become a Marine.

Response by Sgt Doug Willey made Mar 22 at 2016 9:52 AM

2016-03-22T09:52:54-04:00

are u on crack!!! hell no the corps is the corps period to pc,ing everything my god hgistoryt customs and courtesies is what we live and strive on next you will be like ted turner that wanted to rewrite the star spangled banner

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 9:53 AM

2016-03-22T09:53:00-04:00

Honestly that's the dumbest idea the good idea fairy came up with since wanting to change the Pledge of Allegiance...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 9:57 AM

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You worry about Navy things and we'll worry about Marine things, hoss. GTFO here with that noise!

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 10:05 AM

2016-03-22T10:05:37-04:00

Good luck with that. I'd suggest psychiatry or other counseling to cope. Back in the Old Corps or Navy, sailors were tough and didn't worry about such trivial thing.

Response by Sgt Vernon Anderson made Mar 22 at 2016 10:06 AM

2016-03-22T10:06:38-04:00

Simply, no

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 10:18 AM

2016-03-22T10:18:19-04:00

lol, well, you obviously know what the answer is going to be. Since this question was not asked by a Marine AND you're Navy, the chances of even getting an honest answer is slim. On shear principle alone and I say this with all due respect, I think you should kindly go !@# yourself.

Response by Cpl Jim Connor made Mar 22 at 2016 10:21 AM

2016-03-22T10:21:21-04:00

Tak a hike PO3 John Jeter and leave Marine Corps song alone. You haven't earned right to even discuss it.
Jim Connor

Response by 2ndLt Fulton Recepcion made Mar 22 at 2016 10:28 AM

2016-03-22T10:28:03-04:00

Why should they? And no, it has nothing to do with the fact that I was a Marine. There are too much hurt feelings going on these days.

A couple of years ago, they were trying to do away with the nickname "Devil Dog" because it offended some Christians and also non-believers who don't want biblical references.

When will the madness stop?

Response by LCpl Paul Messer made Mar 22 at 2016 10:30 AM

2016-03-22T10:30:36-04:00

I get your reason for saying to change it, but no way. There is way too much tradition in the Marine Corps Hymn.

Response by SGT Kelly Ward made Mar 22 at 2016 10:44 AM

2016-03-22T10:44:21-04:00

You're right, it should be revamped... We need to add the Air Force in there as well.

Response by Sgt Joe LaBranche made Mar 22 at 2016 10:57 AM

2016-03-22T10:57:03-04:00

Are you our of your mind? What are you smoking, brother? Why would you want to revamp something that doesn'the need revamping? Should we not away with the Army VS. Navy football game? Should we form one branch of service? Should switch from apple pie and ice cream to cherry pie with no ice cream? Should we have your head examined for even thinking such a think? From three halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli we will fight our Country'so battles in the, land, and sea...
Shape up you useless turd! Lol!

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 10:58 AM

2016-03-22T10:58:28-04:00

Have you lost your ever living mind. not only NO but Hell NO. About as stupid as asking the Redskins to change their name. You need to get a life and start worrying ab out something that has to do with you. This Political correctness will be the death of this country. No where does it say you should not get your little felling hurt. Grow some skin. If you don't like what's being said WALK a WAY, Change the Channel. Again GET a LIFE.

Response by Cpl Jonathan Schmitt made Mar 22 at 2016 11:01 AM

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No they should definitely not, simply because the marines are held at a higher value; which is a commonly known fact... If you're unsure about this, ask any enemy.
P.s. only the army and the navy is politically correct. Marines shot people in the face, and piss on their dead bodies. Note the difference.

Response by Sgt Joe LaBranche made Mar 22 at 2016 11:02 AM

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Semper Fi!

Response by Cpl Paul Dysart made Mar 22 at 2016 11:14 AM

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Nope.

The differences between a basically trained Marine fresh out of bootcamp vs other branches are stark.

EVERY Marine must not only shoot, but qualify on the rifle period, regardless of MOS.

There is no comparison.

Response by PO1 Raymond Sauter made Mar 22 at 2016 11:23 AM

2016-03-22T11:23:08-04:00

Nope! Marines are often lampooned about their "overzealous pride in the Corps" and so forth but I think it is wonderful! Marines have their "Bark" but what does this former Squid have to immediately mark his identity with another of his or her kind? Instead of being jealous over the Marines "Esprit De Corps", how about getting some of your own for the respective branch to which you serve?

And when we are in Heaven, we can all STAND DOWN because any enemy that would threaten our security and well-being are in that "Other Place!" LOL

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 11:24 AM

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No. It shouldn't.

Response by LtCol Richard Edmonds made Mar 22 at 2016 11:31 AM

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No. It is a great song and you are right the song makes sure that the Marines are selected by God to guard the streets of Heaven, it is our song and who cares what the Army and Navy thing about our Marine Corps Hymn. It is not Marine Corps policy for gosh sakes.

Response by Sgt Alan Voracek made Mar 22 at 2016 11:52 AM

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Why would you even ask such a ridiculous question. The Marine Corps hymn is as rich and deep in history as the Marine Corps itself!

Response by Sgt Michael Johnson made Mar 22 at 2016 11:57 AM

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I'm not going to be PC; them are fighting words.

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Mar 22 at 2016 12:34 PM

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PO1 Private RallyPoint Member My beloved Corps SHOULD NOT change anything in its history for political correctness today, especially not our hymn. Please note the USMC provides Marine Security Guards to the President at Camp David and to each and every United States Embassy throughout the world. Based on this alone, it seems likely that any heaven I go to would be guarded by Devil Dogs. I may have retired from the US Army, but I will always be a Marine, just as I served in the Marine Corps but I will always be a Soldier. What I learned as a Marine made me a better Soldier.

Semper Fidelis,

Response by Sgt Michael Oberline made Mar 22 at 2016 12:38 PM

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Personally I look forward to going to Hell so I can make the devil do push-ups while I greet all the newly arriving terrorist punks.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 12:52 PM

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No it just reminds the Army and Navy who's better lol. The Air Force was never added in because everyone knows they don't count, the only good years they had was when they were in the Army.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 1:10 PM

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Absolutely not! Tradition is something all branches are founded on...and if you can't pick on your brothers and sisters, who can?
Last I checked, we all bled the same blood.

Response by Capt Michael Brown made Mar 22 at 2016 1:11 PM

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One of the biggest concerns facing this country is political correctness. Everyone is too afraid of speaking truth or offending. Hurting someone's feeling is just about the last thing on the mind of people whose job it is to wage war. Grow a pair, I'm really tired of the crap I've seen lately on this site

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 1:15 PM

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They wouldn't be the devil dogs without that attitude. Leave the Hymn alone!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 1:17 PM

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Look if anyone seriously get their feelings hurt from this they need to check themselves! The Marine Corps is a prideful organization and in no way shape or from should they change the Hymn!

Response by SPC Jeremy Cobb made Mar 22 at 2016 1:19 PM

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Only thing I have to say about this is... if they want guard duty let em' have it.

Response by SGT Javier Mendoza made Mar 22 at 2016 1:34 PM

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Let them feel important, that's part of their recruiting strategy.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 1:40 PM

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Hell no don't change anything about the marine corps

Response by Cpl Jim Morsovillo Sr. made Mar 22 at 2016 1:52 PM

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Hell NO leave our Marine Corps Hymn alone. Nobody's changing anything because someone is upset. To friggin bad. Don't mess with the Marines or their hymn!!

Response by 1stSgt Brian Akers made Mar 22 at 2016 1:54 PM

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No!!!! Stop trying to create something new because it might hurt someone's feelings. That's what is wrong with the world now, everyone gets a trophy and it might offend someone. If you don't like it don't listen to it!

Response by Sgt Melanie Starkman made Mar 22 at 2016 1:58 PM

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You have got to be f**king kidding me!! Get over it squid, we rule the heavens!!

Response by LTC Trent Klug made Mar 22 at 2016 2:23 PM

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What a dumbass idea. Next, we'll have to redesign the flag because it offends some too.

Perhaps the Navy should bring back keel-hauling for good idea fairies, especially for PO1 GIFs.

Response by SFC J Fullerton made Mar 22 at 2016 2:28 PM

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No, don't change it! It may be true. The Army probably has a more important mission in Heaven than pulling guard duty, and the Navy wouldn't know how because that is what they have Marines for.

Response by Cpl Corey Kaplan made Mar 22 at 2016 2:52 PM

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No Frickin Way!

Response by CWO4 Ray Fairman made Mar 22 at 2016 3:32 PM

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Eight years ago America listened to some guy shouting about change! Today that is all that is left in my pocket and the US Treasury! Leave it alone, Marines Don't need Change, just the feel of Pain Leaving The Body!

Response by Cpl Dale Winans made Mar 22 at 2016 3:39 PM

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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? Hell would surely freeze over first before any of my brother and sister Marines would let anyone fuck with our beloved Marines' Hymn.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 4:07 PM

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The only reason I am glad you brought this up is because it made me reread the hymn's lyrics and reminded me how great the hymn is.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 4:28 PM

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youre serious?? like really??......really?....did you lose a bet?

Response by MAJ Joseph Ward made Mar 22 at 2016 4:29 PM

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No, that is all

Response by 1stSgt Casey Crowfoot made Mar 22 at 2016 4:30 PM

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Suck it up buttercup. I'm so sick and tired of people being offended by everything. It is the Marine Corps hymn and that is that.

Response by MSgt Delain Johnson made Mar 22 at 2016 4:38 PM

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First off, there in no Marine Corps Hymn. It is the Marines Hymn. Second it is the Marines Hymn, of the Marines for the Marines. If you feel devalued that's on you. Guess you should have joined the Marine Corps

Response by LtCol David Gran made Mar 22 at 2016 4:40 PM

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I was going to respond, but then I thought. Since I'm already doing something I shouldn't be while at work, there must be a good soap opera I can turn on.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 4:43 PM

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I think this should be totally up to the Marines. And I am pretty sure you and I both know the answer.

Response by CW2 Carl Swanson made Mar 22 at 2016 4:46 PM

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NO!!! Grow a pair!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 4:51 PM

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Anyone who is offended, probably shouldn't be in the Armed Forces but can volunteer at the closest Salvation Army or something. Jeezus, this is why we can't have nice things.

Response by Sgt Jon Clancy made Mar 22 at 2016 4:53 PM

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no not just no but HELL no

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 4:54 PM

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Yeah, you are a deep turd.

And hell fucking no.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Mar 22 at 2016 5:01 PM

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Petty Officer, it may seem callous but the feelings of sailors, soldiers and airmen were not considered when writing the Marine Corps Hymn. Go get a straw and suck it up. Mean while I will sit at my desk while humming the hymn to myself.

Semper Fi

Response by SSgt Robert Kitchens made Mar 22 at 2016 5:55 PM

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Nope....not gonna change it.....no reason to change it. When it comes time for you to re-enlist, perhaps you should just consider changing services. Of course you'd still have to go too boot camp, but then afterwards you'd understand why the Corps won't ever change our hymn (smile).

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 6:21 PM

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We do it too (kind of)
Halfway down the trail to Hell, In a shady meadow green Are the Souls of all dead troopers camped, Near a good old-time canteen. And this eternal resting place Is known as Fiddlers' Green. Marching past, straight through to Hell The Infantry are seen. Accompanied by the Engineers, Artillery and Marines, For none but the shades of Cavalrymen Dismount at Fiddlers' Green.

Response by Cpl Caleb Johnson made Mar 22 at 2016 6:32 PM

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DO whatever the F&^K you want with the Marine Corps hymn, numbnuts. But, the Marine's Hymn stays as is...........

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Mar 22 at 2016 7:18 PM

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It was a case of mistaken identity. That was actually God dressed in Marine dress blues. God likes to pretend he's a Marine.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 7:32 PM

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Hell no.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 7:48 PM

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Traditions are something that is not always good to mess with. One thing I always respected about the USMC is their tight grip on their traditions.

Response by 1SG Jack Crutcher made Mar 22 at 2016 8:44 PM

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If you can find 1 real Marine to agree with you someone may take your foolish idea into consideration, good luck in finding that 1 Marine.

Response by SFC Daniel Zelch made Mar 22 at 2016 8:51 PM

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I am a retired Army Infantry senior NCO. Just because the other branches have been pussified doesn't mean the USMC needs to follow suit. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Suck it up butter cup.

Response by Maj Chris Clark made Mar 22 at 2016 8:55 PM

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Yea, you are right. If you are a Corpsman, then God bless. If not, Bless your heart. I would guess you are not a Corpsman, because if you were you would not ask that question in the first place. Listen Popeye, if you want a more military sounding tune work on changing your own time and leave the Marine Corps Hymn to Marines.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Mar 22 at 2016 9:43 PM

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They are embassy guards, so why change?

Response by Sgt Frank Rinchich made Mar 22 at 2016 10:09 PM

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Nothing in the Marines song, is meant to degrade any branch of service, a lot was added here and there by Marines that just wanted to project their pride in the Corps. BUT on a second thought the streets of heaven are made of gold, how the hell can you trust a swabie around so much gold, just kidding. I was stationed 2 years aboard a heavy cruiser with paint chippers. but you can count on them when you need you back watched. And a navy corpsman is a Marines guarding angel. The Army welllll they are not sure if they been there , going there or should be there at all so the Marines watch over them, couldn't win a war without our army. and to tell the truth I don't think I trust them around so much gold either NOW all of you know why the streets of heaven has to be guarded.

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Mar 22 at 2016 10:25 PM

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Waaaaaaaaaah. No.

Response by Capt Michael Halpin made Mar 22 at 2016 10:43 PM

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I can only say I am looking forward to standing duty in heaven, just not too soon!

Response by Cpl Jeremy Brendle made Mar 22 at 2016 10:47 PM

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Hell no! It's perfectly fine the way it is. Would you please stop fucking with shit that doesn't need to be fucked with. I don't hear anyone saying that the national anthem needs to be revamped or America the beautiful. All are timeless classics that need to stay just the way they were originally written. Now Semper Fi! and carry on.

Response by GySgt Carl Rumbolo made Mar 22 at 2016 11:03 PM

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Yes to put it mildly, you are a deep deep turd for even raising this stupid question. When you have successfully completed Marine boot camp and have served at least 1 full tour as a United States Marine, you may ask such silly questions, till then STFU sailor!

Response by 1SG James Wise made Mar 22 at 2016 11:16 PM

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Oh good Lord NO...NO NO NO...Can't the military keep any traditions safe from political correctness BS????? I do not care if it is the Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, or Coast Guard - leave traditions in place, let service members have pride, and stop letting your politically correct stupid ideas dig in places that should be left well enough alone. This is one good idea fairly that needs taken down with antiaircraft fire from every direction at once....Aarrggghhh!!!!

Response by LCpl Jim Pleace made Mar 22 at 2016 11:19 PM

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Inter-service rivalry. Next question. This is why I got a Meritorious Mast

Response by CPO Robert Bustamante made Mar 22 at 2016 11:21 PM

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I am a retired Chief in the Coast Guard, and I say keep the song unchanged--although, I was in the Marine Corps for 4 years before I joined the Coast Guard.

Response by Capt Troop Emonds made Mar 22 at 2016 11:53 PM

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Keep my favorite song exactly as is. Years ago when my second son was about nine years old he came up to me and burst out crying. I hugged him and asked in a gentle way what is this all about.

He told me he did not want to go to Heaven. I asked why not, that is supposed be a good deal.

Because you aren't going to be there. I'm not where am I going.

You will be in the other place. How do you figure that.

You will be with your smokejumper friends and all your Marine friends. Who told you all the smokejumpers and Marines are not going toHeaven?

You know I've got proof I'll meet you in Heaven. He was still crying and shaking.

I said you know my favorite song. He nodded his head and I told him. My favorite part of my favorite song it goes like This:

And if the Army and the Navy ever look on Heaven's Scenes, they will find the streets are guarded by United States Marines

See Jed there is proof The Marine are going to Heaven no doubt about.

My dear son just graduated from Army Jump School. I just got back from Ft. Benning. Such a joy to hang out with my two sons.

Response by SSgt Eric Kolesar made Mar 23 at 2016 12:30 AM

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Let's clear one thing right up front. The "Marines' Hymn" is the official hymn of the United States Marine Corps, and is not the "Marine Corps Hymn"!
No the "Marines' Hymn" should not be changed! It sounds like you are worried that the Marines may hurt someones feelings. That's just too damn bad! If you (or anyone else for that matter) are so week that your feelings get hurt because of the lyrics to a military hymn, then do yourself a favor and lock yourself away, you are too fragile for the real world! The hymn doesn't even attempt to hurt anyone's feelings, so just imagine how bad you would feel if a Marine actually made an effort to hurt your feelings, you would collapse under the sheer pressure of being so weak minded.
Inter-service rivalry is a part of being in the military, as is pride in the branch that they serve. It's a never-ending circle where Marines talk trash about the Navy, and the Army about the Air Force, and so on, etc. etc. It's not the Marine Corp's fault that you aren't good enough to serve in the finest fighting force in the world, but at least you made it into a service where no one will hurt your feelings. Semper Fi!

Response by SSgt Christopher Brose made Mar 23 at 2016 5:03 AM

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Seriously? This is even a topic? As someone who has worn the uniforms of the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps, I can honestly say that anyone who doesn't like the lyrics of any service's theme songs needs to grow the hell up.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Mar 23 at 2016 6:49 AM

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Maybe the Marines will lighten up once they have completed their mandatory sensitivity training now that the women will be joining them as riflemen (persons?). In all seriousness, ain't a damn thing wrong with the song!

Response by 1stLt John Nicholas McIntosh made Mar 23 at 2016 8:19 AM

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Of course, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. I am also for gun control. All Marines are for good gun control which is sight picture, trigger squeeze, and first round hit center of mass. It just dawned on me, taking a center of mass hit would hurt more than someones feelings but stopping all touchee feelie feelings like changing the Marine Corps Hymn.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2016 8:28 AM

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I am failing to see where this devalues the Army and Navy.... as a Navy Corpsman I may be biased. However, the Marines have always been a quick reaction force and will continue to do so. The Army has its mission as much as the Navy does.

I know that all the branches give shit to the others, but I promise you that at the end of the day it doesn't matter which branch you are because we all would take care of each other.

I think it is silly to even consider changing the words... Better yet, one of these Devil Dogs can challenge us on Anchors Away, which could be viewed as "glorifying alcohol".

I have pride in being a Sailor, however as a Corpsman I have a hard time identifying with the rest of the Navy. Why? Because I don't "Navy".

I have had several Soldiers, Airmen and Marines ask me "Do you even Navy bro?" No, not really... I have never been on a ship.

Does it matter? No, because I am still a Sailor.

Bottom line and upfront answer: No... better yet, HELL NO, the song does NOT need to be changed just to fit the politically sensitive.

Response by Sgt Christopher Heaton made Mar 23 at 2016 8:58 AM

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There is no such thing as the Marine Corps Hymn. It is The Marine's Hymn. It does not need to be revamped. The Marine Corps is the smallest service with so much more training on history and traditions. Once a Marine, always a Marine! Semper Fi

Response by GySgt Paul Dedman made Mar 23 at 2016 9:01 AM

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Yes, you are a turd for ever bringing this up however, in my kinder & gentler years I will only require of you, 500 pushups on my quarterdeck and 15 miles on the road at my pace in your running shoes...... This is not a mission critical issue but rather one that only one that serves only to undermine discipline and order. We have seen the effects of the loss of tradition and the addition of "political correctness" in our ranks and in our nation. The Name of God, and His Son Jesus, have become an insincere byline at best. The good leaders are limited in their leadership by the political correctness infection coming down from the highest levels and our boys and girls are being taken to the fight without a country to really back them up. Well, we've always really only counted on our comrade in the foxhole but, we've always had a country that we could be unequivocally proud of --- and that made the risk of death worth it. Words like the Marine Corps Hymn are the words, THE SPIRIT of those words, that helped form the courage in the hearts of young recruits to prove their Drill Instructor wrong and make him proud, to charge the beaches of Normandy, to take a rock called Iwo Jima, to continue to fight when the waters ran red with those you've trained with, fought and carried back the wounded and dead in the Korea winter cold with very little in resources, knew about their families from the letters they've read --- and I could go on with countless reasons. We need the strength, the honor, and courage in every warrior from every branch. If I tell my Marines that we are going to accomplish as a certain mission and that if during that mission, they open their eyes and are guarding the Pearly Gates --- What is that to you? That's between me and them. Don't be angry because the Marines said first. Ooh Rah! Semper Fi! --Gunny

Response by SSG Wally Lawver made Mar 23 at 2016 9:45 AM

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of course not................................

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2016 9:52 AM

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Uh Oh... Someone needs a Safe Space. His feelings are getting hurt.
Marines don't have feelings. If the Corps wanted us to, they'd have issued us a set.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Mar 23 at 2016 10:11 AM

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No.

Response by LCpl William Perry made Mar 23 at 2016 12:35 PM

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PO1 the HYMN stands for so much of what the corp is about. You are worried about one phrase out of the whole Hymn and want to change it. If this doesn't make sense to you then please let me show me from my view, and that is if you go to any Marine, Navy base or embassy who do you see guarding them? I had the honor to be at Norfolk Marine Barracks and this along with being devil dogs on the field is what we do best....The Hymn stands proud as do we...Semper Fi...RAH!

Response by Sgt Hard Philips made Mar 23 at 2016 12:38 PM

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Nooooooo. Even if the tune itself is from a French comic opera, the final words are dead serious. It is how we confront our current enemy. Those folks want to die in battle as a sure pathway to heaven. Well, let 'em. Marines fight for life, liberty and to keep their Marine brothers & sisters alive...I mean, hell, who wants to go on guard duty, liberty is so much better. Wouldn't it be a trip if there is just one heaven and when the muslim arrived found St. Peter in dress blues? Semper fi...nally.

Response by Cpl John M Dutrow made Mar 23 at 2016 1:10 PM

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Response by LtCol Bob Stephenson made Mar 23 at 2016 2:57 PM

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The name of the song is the Marines Hymn, not the Marine Corps Hymn. It's hard for me to take your question seriously if you don't even know the name of the friggin' song.

Response by Sgt John Koliha made Mar 23 at 2016 2:58 PM

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My thinking about this has always been " What the hell, we make it to heaven and we still pull guard."

Response by SSG Ralph Watkins made Mar 23 at 2016 3:08 PM

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Don't you dare change any tradition. I was Army but served alongside my Marine brothers in Fallujah. My father was a Marine who saw the first flag raising on Iwo Jima. Who cares if the other services are too sensitive to handle tradition. It only means their leadership hasn't forged them to be strong enough.

Response by Cpl Don "GUNNY" Miller made Mar 23 at 2016 3:25 PM

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NFW!

Response by Cpl Michael Kirby made Mar 23 at 2016 3:29 PM

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PO3 John Jeter needs to find the nearest Corpsman, get a couple of 800 mg Motrin and put some foot powder on his vagina. He'll feel better then. Semper Fi!

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2016 4:35 PM

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No.

Response by SPC James Dollins made Mar 23 at 2016 7:34 PM

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NOPE! It's NOT broke, so let's NOT try & fix it! I'm sure the other services would feel the same way! It holds tradition, something I think is slowly falling away from military service these days. Hopefully the new up & coming won't let them all go by the wayside.. Time will tell!

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Mar 23 at 2016 7:59 PM

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No, No, NO! The Marine Corp Hymn is steeped in tradition. Most of us know many of the words in the hymn even if we were in one of the other branches. Yes, it has been quite a while since the U.S.M.C. was in the Halls of Montezuma or the shores of Tripoli (Well, briefly in 2011) but, the Battle Hymn itself is sacred. IMHO, it should be left alone, as it is today.

Response by SSgt Chuck “Gunz” Gundlach USMC Ret., MBA made Mar 23 at 2016 8:06 PM

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Don't know why this is even a question worth asking, especially from someone other than a Marine, who would never ask to change their storied and honorable history and tradition as it stands and grows. Marines are a special breed, it's obvious in so many ways. Some people join the wrong service, and when they realize this, instead of switching services, they may try to make the Navy Seals or other special ops units or equivalent units to what the Marine Corps is and has been throughout American History. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

Response by Cpl John Mathews made Mar 23 at 2016 8:17 PM

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The Marines Hymn (not the Marine Corps Hymn) is about prde and tradition. The lyric about Marines guarding the streets of heaven is somewhat tongue in cheek, but it is little more than one aspect of a rousing song that is distinctive and reverent, and one of the many elements that make the Corps unique.

Response by MGySgt Rick Tyrrell made Mar 23 at 2016 8:30 PM

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No. If anything add another verse to include conflicts of the last 20yrs.

Response by SGT Greg Gold made Mar 23 at 2016 9:07 PM

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Um, how about no?

Jeeze people, it's a song, get over you butt hurt and drive on.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2016 9:29 PM

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Definitely shouldn't be changed, if it offends you try not being a pussy for a change

Response by SMSgt William Hassiepen made Mar 23 at 2016 10:48 PM

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Why? Although in this wacky PC country of ours, everything else about traditions is being erased. I hope it doesn't extend to this.

Response by Cpl Jay Samdahl made Mar 23 at 2016 10:54 PM

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you are out of your mind ... this change everything attitude is killing this country

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 23 at 2016 11:11 PM

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I am a proud Soldier PO1 Private RallyPoint Member, and I say No!!!!

I think all the hymns are good as is... I don't take offense to this; why would I. Marines are who they are, and we like it that way. Each branch of DOD has a role and function and pride, but we fight as a joint team. If they Marines think they are most important and can do it alone, that is fine with me. If they think they better than everyone, that is fine with me too. I have my opinions too, but we all do. These hymns are historic, and should remain as is. They should never ever be toyed with because we care about one's feelings. That hymn does not hurt my feelings, it actually makes me proud, as does they Army Song (the most proud), and Off We Go, and Anchors Away... and Semper Paratus too..

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We fight our country’s battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine.

Our flag’s unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought in every clime and place
Where we could take a gun.
In the snow of far-off Northern lands
And in sunny tropic scenes;
You will find us always on the job —
The United States Marines.

Here’s health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve;
In many a strife we’ve fought for life
And never lost our nerve.
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven’s scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.

Response by LCpl Stephen Sharp made Mar 24 at 2016 12:04 AM

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HELL NO!!!!!! And yes U R a DEEP TURD for even thinking it. Marines ARE NOT politically correct and they are not influenced by inept politically correct civilian command personal. They are MARINES and they always will be till they become Heavens Gate Guards. THE MARINE HYMN is a US MARINE Honored Tradition and has been for a long time. If the COMMANDANT of the MARINE CORPS and only the Commandant orders a change I will obey it. If the men or women in the other services feel devalued then let them join the UNITED STATES MARINES and earn the HONOR of being Guards of Heaven's Gates. MARINES have died for that HYMN. LEAVE our HYMN alone!!!!!! Don't shame it by changing it. SEMPER FI to all MARINES and OUR HYMN. -- STEPHEN W. Sharp (3/5 1st MAR DIV. 1960 to 1964)

Response by LCDR William Breyfogle made Mar 24 at 2016 12:05 AM

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I put this in the same category as taking the "Man" out of "Signalman" and "Torpedoman's Mate." With all the problems our armed services are facing, is this REALLY the one that we need to be solving?

Response by CPO Randy McLaughlin made Mar 24 at 2016 12:18 AM

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The leathernecks have earned the right to their pride. I have no problem with their hymn.
ETC (SS) USN (ret)

Response by LCpl Anthony Sperle made Mar 24 at 2016 12:46 AM

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Leave the Marine Corps Hymn as it is. What next, will we make the infantry wear dresses so as not to offend the PC crowd? I can't believe this is even in question. Former 2/9 rifleman L/CPL Sperle.

Response by GySgt Dennis Gilbert made Mar 24 at 2016 2:13 AM

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I don't see why anyone should be concerned with this other than Marines. It goes to show that once we depart this earth we still have to stand duty on the other side too.

Response by CMSgt Bill Ford made Mar 24 at 2016 2:39 AM

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Why? Is there an article I missed?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 10:18 AM

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I'm Army and this in no way offends me.

Even more so because the Army will likely take over long-term operational control of those streets ;)

Response by GySgt Bruce Gilbert made Mar 24 at 2016 2:26 PM

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No way do we change our words no more then I would ask the Navy, Army , Coast Guard or Air Force to change theirs. This is getting stupid . What is there a bunch of kids getting their feelings hurt.

Response by CWO4 James M Blaschak made Mar 24 at 2016 5:14 PM

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Absolutely no changes. Serve as a Marine and you'll know why. Go find something important to do

Response by Shannan Fraser made Mar 24 at 2016 11:43 PM

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I sure hope you aren't a Marine! What a question. I would ask what you are thinking, but I believe the answer to that is pretty obvious! Unless you were looking to stir up a hornets nest! Leave the Marine Corps Hymn alone!!!

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 25 at 2016 5:58 PM

2016-03-25T17:58:02-04:00

Well then the Marines deserve perpetual guard duty.

Response by Cpl Joshua Terrell made Mar 28 at 2016 12:32 AM

2016-03-28T00:32:29-04:00

Leave my corps alone leave our traditions alone we are the best for a reason tested time and time again the marines have bled for every inch of soil our country has called them to seize no other force on the earth can do what the marines do with so little

Response by GySgt Keith Backus made Mar 29 at 2016 2:02 AM

2016-03-29T02:02:24-04:00

Hell no, it's the truth. Once a Marine Always a Marine.

Response by PFC Robbie Cannon made Mar 29 at 2016 6:56 PM

2016-03-29T18:56:41-04:00

Are you CRAZY..... Never touch the Hymn... Srew the Army and Navy if it hurts their feelings.... WHHHAaaahhhhhhhh

Response by PO1 Jack Howell made Mar 30 at 2016 1:32 PM

2016-03-30T13:32:23-04:00

No. It's a part of their culture, history, and tradition. Something like this should not be changed just because a person is offended. If you don't like it, then ignore it. Otherwise, suck it up, stop whining, and focus on more important things like your job.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2016 1:49 PM

2016-03-31T13:49:49-04:00

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member The truth is that the streets are guarded by United States Marines. Any other questions?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2016 10:23 PM

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Response by LCpl Jim Pleace made Apr 7 at 2016 1:17 PM

2016-04-07T13:17:08-04:00

Why is this even a question? OOH RAH!

Response by PO2 Michael Grella made Apr 7 at 2016 1:19 PM

2016-04-07T13:19:17-04:00

no way jose it is fine just the way it is

Response by LCpl Chris Laemmle made Apr 7 at 2016 8:56 PM

2016-04-07T20:56:30-04:00

We Marines love our Corps and yes, as our hymn implies, we feel we are the best. It is part of our Esprit. If another service feels that they are better then they need to put that into their hymn. As for us, we are leaving our hymn as is. Semper Fi.....

Response by Cpl Don "GUNNY" Miller made Apr 8 at 2016 1:12 PM

2016-04-08T13:12:46-04:00

Should your paycheck be Revamped?

Response by Cpl Jim Connor made Apr 14 at 2016 1:01 PM

2016-04-14T13:01:24-04:00

No. End of discussion. Jim Connor.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2016 5:09 PM

2016-04-14T17:09:43-04:00

I'm against any changes to the song BUT if a verse were added to include Beirut and Desert Storm I can't see it hurting just no changes to existing song.

Response by Sgt Edward Allen made Apr 19 at 2016 8:37 PM

2016-04-19T20:37:42-04:00

Of course we devalue the army, but we do appreciate the US Navy. The big brass of the army has tried repeatedly to do away with the Marines..... and failed. The Navy, at least, provides a fine taxi service and fantastic medical support for we devil dogs.

If any change comes to the Marine Corps Hymn, it will be to add a new stanza about the deserts and the stars!

Response by Sgt Harlin Seritt made Apr 21 at 2016 1:11 PM

2016-04-21T13:11:12-04:00

Hell yes we should keep it in there. Why would you take it out? No one knows for sure if anyone will be guarding anything in heaven or if there is even going to be one after this life, but why would you not have Mother Green and Her Killer Machine guarding those streets? And wouldn't you doggies and squids be happy to see us pulling guard duty over you?

Response by SGT Richard H. made Apr 21 at 2016 2:53 PM

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Response by GySgt Carl Rumbolo made Apr 21 at 2016 4:29 PM

2016-04-21T16:29:50-04:00

No...you are not a deep turd....you are just a troll and why the hell does Rally Point let people post stupid crap like this is beyond me. I have said this before - RP is just Facebook for the military, - mildly interesting and an occasional fun diversion - but 'professional' ....no ...not even close. Too many stupid questions "Why to do we have a SecDef" "Should the Marine Corps Hymn be changed" , "Why can't I have PX privileges as a veteran - retirees get them" , "Why can't I wear my prior service uniform with my new branch of service" - .....

Response by Cpl Jay Samdahl made Apr 28 at 2016 9:04 PM

2016-04-28T21:04:14-04:00

what non american came up with this crazy idea in the first place?

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2016 10:30 AM

2016-04-30T10:30:48-04:00

I am in the Army and say absolutely not. The Marines are the only Service that remain true to their traditions and promise only one thing in their recruiting campaign... we will make you a Marine.

Response by LtCol David Gran made May 5 at 2016 2:29 PM

2016-05-05T14:29:34-04:00

If I get one more email from Rally Point asking me if the Marine Corps Hymn should be revamped I'm shutting off the email notifications!

Response by LtCol Andrew Horne made May 12 at 2016 12:22 PM

2016-05-12T12:22:20-04:00

As Marines we have never been worried about other people's feelings, why start now?

Response by Sgt Frank Rinchich made May 19 at 2016 12:41 PM

2016-05-19T12:41:16-04:00

Why change the Hymn, streets guarded by US Marines is something added by Marines not official, its our way to rub it in a little, just as the Navy calls us jarheads, its inter service joking, and as you know the streets of heaven are made of gold, you can't trust a damn swaby or a dough boy with that much gold.

Response by Sgt Donald Chalfy made May 20 at 2016 2:31 PM

2016-05-20T14:31:33-04:00

I am a Marine Musician (tuba and electric bass) who served in the field bands, not Washington DC. I went to Parris Island, was trained as an AAV crewman and made a lateral move to the music field. I served from 1979-1991. My answer to this question is hell f*ing no, the Marine's Hymn should not be revamped at all. I have performed it tens of thousands of times, still have my parts memorized, still get chills and stand at attention when I hear it, and watched many thousands of Marines foam at the mouth while it was performed for their units and on parade. The Marine Corps regard it as sacred as the National Anthem. I appreciate the question being asked by PO1 Jacob Dronzin, however, the whole PC thing has gone way to far as far as I'm concerned. The only revision I can recall is when we added the air component to the hymn. I don't think any of the military service songs/hymns should be changed at all for that matter.

I'm sure members of the other branches of the military feel the same way about their own service songs, which I have performed with the same gusto as The Marine's Hymn.

This is the hymn for Marines and has served as a source of fact, identity, pride, and motivation for generations. As a proud Marine Musician, "Don't Tread on Me!"

Response by LCpl Anthony Sperle made May 26 at 2016 12:43 PM

2016-05-26T12:43:58-04:00

Leave it the way it is. This "political correctness" BS is getting out of hand.

Response by LCDR William Breyfogle made May 26 at 2016 12:44 PM

2016-05-26T12:44:31-04:00

In light of all the real SERIOUS problems we face in the military, this is just plain SILLY. Total non-issue

Response by SA Harold Hansmann made Feb 5 at 2018 4:15 PM

2018-02-05T16:15:29-05:00

The marines maybe guarding the gate but the SeaBees built the road there

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 14 at 2018 12:19 AM

2018-08-14T00:19:54-04:00

Let's not mince words.... Everyone only knows the first stanza anyways. You can "revamp" it by making everyone know the whole thing ;o)

Response by 1stSgt Dan Lager made Nov 2 at 2018 10:09 AM

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Response by SFC William Ewing made Mar 18 at 2019 10:48 PM

2019-03-18T22:48:16-04:00

If it makes the Marines happy keep the word's.

I always hated to see Marines get their panties in a bunch.

Response by Joseph Cota made Mar 18 at 2019 11:55 PM

2019-03-18T23:55:01-04:00

As someone who got chewed up and spit out by MCRD San Diego and the Grimm Reaper. I have to say
1) Thank you for your service.
2) Petty Officer, I'll give you props for having the gall to even suggest such a thing within earshot of a Marine.
3) Finally, and with respect; Not just NO, HELL NO.

Response by PFC Charles Sanders made Mar 19 at 2019 7:10 AM

2019-03-19T07:10:38-04:00

This former soldier never cared enough to think about it and be offended.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 10:59 AM

2019-03-19T10:59:22-04:00

Who really cares? It is just a song, if your feelings get hurt by a song, aside from clear cut racial/sexist/ etc language, then you need to re-evaluate your life.

Response by CN Timothy Rowand made Mar 19 at 2019 11:16 AM

2019-03-19T11:16:02-04:00

They might be guarded by Marines but the streets were paved and the gates built by United States Navy Seabees.

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Mar 19 at 2019 11:23 AM

2019-03-19T11:23:28-04:00

Maybe the army and the navy should place more value upon themselves? And rise to our level instead of sniveling about the World's Finest?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 11:27 AM

2019-03-19T11:27:22-04:00

The Marines may be guarding Heaven's Gates, but the US Cavalry is forward deployed "halfway down the road to Hell" at a place called Fiddler's Green. So the Corps can have a cushy assignment for once.

Response by PO2 Bill Kuiper made Mar 19 at 2019 11:31 AM

2019-03-19T11:31:33-04:00

The Marines are entitled to their opinion. Nyuk, nyuk.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 11:32 AM

2019-03-19T11:32:50-04:00

They can guard heaven, I have Fiddlers Green!!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 11:57 AM

2019-03-19T11:57:54-04:00

You have GOT to be kidding.....Besides. If the Marines wanna pull guard duty while the rest of us party, that's their choice.

Response by CW3 Michael Koushel made Mar 19 at 2019 12:33 PM

2019-03-19T12:33:38-04:00

Amazed how emasculated people are these days...

Response by PO2 Mark Capra made Mar 19 at 2019 12:56 PM

2019-03-19T12:56:24-04:00

Hell yeah leave them be...ever listen to all the stanzas of Anchors Aweigh...not very flattering to the Army but that is why our Military is so great..lots of rivalry except when danger calls !

Response by LtCol Dennis Ivan made Mar 19 at 2019 1:09 PM

2019-03-19T13:09:08-04:00

Is the Navy going to change the lyrics of Navy Blue and Gold so as not to "devalue" other colleges right to wear their colors, especially blue and gold?

Response by SSG Mac Ashworth made Mar 19 at 2019 1:15 PM

2019-03-19T13:15:32-04:00

Works for me somebody needs to sweep the sweets,actually I have great respect for the marines,and I am a twenty year army SSG we all have or had a job to do the Corp just has better advertising.

Response by LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr. made Mar 19 at 2019 1:18 PM

2019-03-19T13:18:47-04:00

Well Petty Officer, at least when we are no longer on active duty we don’t sing, “I can’t stand to leave my buddy’s behind!!”

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 1:31 PM

2019-03-19T13:31:30-04:00

The Marines might guard the gates. But, the Seabees built the road to them!

Response by CPO John Clapp made Mar 19 at 2019 2:49 PM

2019-03-19T14:49:59-04:00

As a Squid, I’ve stood Pier Sentry, Brow (Gang way/Gang Plank to Landlubbers) Sentry, and Quarterdeck Watch. In one port in the ‘60s, I marched up an down the pier with an empty M1 rifle for four hourswhile the Marine that stood at the bottom of the Admiral’s brow had a loaded and locked 1911 and at least two extra magazines. I, at one time, stood Gate Guard on an unused empty parking lot. So if the Marines want to stand watch on the streets of Heaven, let them. I’ll be in the Gedunk sucking on a Chocolate Malt.

Response by Sgt Mike Jacobi made Mar 19 at 2019 3:06 PM

2019-03-19T15:06:05-04:00

As an Air Force Vet i have to say the Marines Hymn is unique to that service and should be left alone by outsiders. Maybe they’d consider adding versus for Guadalcanal, zchosen, or Beirut though.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 3:09 PM

2019-03-19T15:09:42-04:00

It's the Marines talking....trust me no one cares. If this offends you, not sorry. Tbf in terms of prowess I think the average Marine is better than the average Soldier, however the crayon eater stereotype shines through a lot.

Response by Cpl Patrik Bernard made Mar 19 at 2019 3:18 PM

2019-03-19T15:18:20-04:00

Take a walk

Response by PFC Derek Roberts made Mar 19 at 2019 3:24 PM

2019-03-19T15:24:22-04:00

Fought with the good Jarheads (capitalized intentionally) against a common enemy, and against (as families tend to do) when the liquor flows. Never met one I wasn't proud to know. I know when the time comes, I'm relying on them just to wave me past the OP

Response by MSG Brad Hansen made Mar 19 at 2019 3:26 PM

2019-03-19T15:26:01-04:00

The Mariners can have all the guard duty they want. I'll be on leave. Keep up the good work.

Response by 1SG Dale Cantrell made Mar 19 at 2019 3:26 PM

2019-03-19T15:26:06-04:00

No never, the words mean true as when they were first wrote , only the way present people think has

Response by Cpl Steven Byrd made Mar 19 at 2019 3:28 PM

2019-03-19T15:28:56-04:00

The Marine Corps Hymn will never change, especially if the lyrics are true.

Response by CPO Kenneth Laughman made Mar 19 at 2019 3:38 PM

2019-03-19T15:38:45-04:00

We are all Brothers and Sisters. I would say none of us gives a rat's ass. We have enough to worry about with politicians wanting to take away earned benefits. Why do we have to worry about words to a song that has been around "forever" or who is guarding the streets of Heaven.

So for the Sailor who has his panties in a wad - settle your ass down. Nobody cares what you think - you are little more than a troll. I would expect more from a Petty Officer Furst Class, and a Navy Cop to boit.

Byy the way, for the record, when my kids were babies and had a hard time settling down, I held them while I walked, singing the Service Songs of each branch, short of the Coast Guard and Merchant Marine.

Response by MSgt Juan Rangel made Mar 19 at 2019 4:12 PM

2019-03-19T16:12:43-04:00

Fuck the Army and Navy if they get butt-hurt

Response by PFC Adam Murray made Mar 19 at 2019 4:23 PM

2019-03-19T16:23:54-04:00

The Army doesn't issue feelings.
Must be a Navy thing.

Response by SPC Greg Rager made Mar 19 at 2019 4:34 PM

2019-03-19T16:34:33-04:00

Keep it as it is . I was Army and Coast Guard and love my country and politically incorrect president.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 4:36 PM

2019-03-19T16:36:55-04:00

Somebody needs to guard those streets,, people get to sensitive,, grow up

Response by SFC John Miskowiec made Mar 19 at 2019 4:40 PM

2019-03-19T16:40:32-04:00

It's pretty stupid.... Not as stupid as eating crayons I guess.

Response by PV2 Alonzo Symalla made Mar 19 at 2019 5:26 PM

2019-03-19T17:26:50-04:00

As a former member of the Army, I have no problem with the Marine hymn. Just always thought of the marines were guarding heaven's streets, it means more booze for the rest of us in heaven's bars.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 5:27 PM

2019-03-19T17:27:11-04:00

Been in the Army for 12 years and haven’t felt offended by anything of the sort. Never heard a Marine complain about “first to fight for the right” either

If this is for real, then some folks never got told to quit crying and grow some thicker skin and it really shows.

Response by SPC John Bush made Mar 19 at 2019 5:32 PM

2019-03-19T17:32:05-04:00

Well I can tell you from my Army side, (dad, myself and son) we are not offended by the words. Brothers in arms, I don’t care which branch

Response by LTC Ray B. (Ret) made Mar 19 at 2019 5:58 PM

2019-03-19T17:58:23-04:00

So what.

Response by LTC Ray B. (Ret) made Mar 19 at 2019 6:03 PM

2019-03-19T18:03:44-04:00

Army ain’t asking and don’t care about no Marine song.

Response by PO1 Jack Howell made Mar 19 at 2019 7:04 PM

2019-03-19T19:04:51-04:00

I’m not a Marine, but the answer is simple. No. The Marine Corps Hymn is a musical record of some of the Corps’ most signifcant moments. It an important part of Marine Corps history and should be left alone. If it were changed , then it wouldn’t sound right.

Response by SSG Jess Peters made Mar 19 at 2019 7:35 PM

2019-03-19T19:35:09-04:00

Someone has to do road guard duty as the Army goes rolling along.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 7:38 PM

2019-03-19T19:38:17-04:00

No, it’s kind of a cyclical thing. Just interservice rivalry. It’s normal. What would you prefer? They sing praises for other branches?

Response by LCpl David Trousdale made Mar 19 at 2019 7:40 PM

2019-03-19T19:40:20-04:00

Marines guard our Embassies world wide. Heaven is another embassy. Suck it up buttercup. We ain't changing shit

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 7:48 PM

2019-03-19T19:48:34-04:00

Doesn't everyone know that's what the Marines were created for? To guard things.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 8:00 PM

2019-03-19T20:00:25-04:00

If our hymn offends you, you would absolutely hate to hear our running cadences. The Airforce shoul feel lucky they weren't around when we were writing songs. That said, our interservice rivalry is like the bond between brothers--we will beat on each other all day long but let someone else talk badly about one of our brothers, and it will be a bloodbath.

Response by SGT Garry Barnett made Mar 19 at 2019 8:32 PM

2019-03-19T20:32:49-04:00

PC is what is killing the spirit of the military. I may be an Army vet (and reserve at that), but changing tradition to appease crybabies is crap.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2019 8:48 PM

2019-03-19T20:48:00-04:00

You are an idiot.

Response by PO2 Skip Kirkwood made Mar 19 at 2019 9:16 PM

2019-03-19T21:16:18-04:00

Hell no!

Response by Sgt Joshua T. made Mar 19 at 2019 9:28 PM

2019-03-19T21:28:40-04:00

No, no, and no. If your skin chafes from a song, you probably shouldn't put on a military uniform.

Response by SGT Paul Hritz made Mar 19 at 2019 9:34 PM

2019-03-19T21:34:48-04:00

The other branches will be okay, relax.

Response by SGT Evans Justin made Mar 19 at 2019 9:38 PM

2019-03-19T21:38:23-04:00

The teachers pet isn't always the best student they just kiss the most ass, but no the Marine corp doesn't need to change anything. Go Army beat Navy.

Response by Cpl Vincent McHenry made Mar 19 at 2019 10:48 PM

2019-03-19T22:48:49-04:00

Jokes on us. When you die you get to enjoy Heaven when Marines die we have to stand duty.

Response by PO2 Rose Aroyan made Mar 19 at 2019 10:52 PM

2019-03-19T22:52:05-04:00

I have family members in all branches. Do not change anything. I would love to know the Marines are guarding the streets, the gates and everything else in between. I have nothing against the Navy, Army, Air Force, Coast Guard or National Guard. I'm just happy with the Marines guarding it. Lol

Response by MGySgt Mark Kozina made Mar 19 at 2019 11:07 PM

2019-03-19T23:07:37-04:00

Not sure which hymn he is talking about. Never heard of the Marine Corps Hymn. Do you mean ths Marines Hymn?

Response by Sgt Joe LaBranche made Mar 19 at 2019 11:13 PM

2019-03-19T23:13:07-04:00

It's a fact, Jack!

Response by LtCol Norman Hitchcock made Mar 19 at 2019 11:40 PM

2019-03-19T23:40:03-04:00

Actually it’s The Marines’ Hymn. And fine the way it is.
Semper Fi,
Norm

Response by PO3 Mike Karcher made Mar 19 at 2019 11:53 PM

2019-03-19T23:53:06-04:00

This is retarded. I was navy my wife was army have friends in all the services. I could careless what there song says. We all have jokes about each other but when the call comes we got each other’s back. Because we’re America and we’re the best as long as we keep the Lord on our side and fight for right. God Bless America!!! And all those who have fought,do fight and all those who will fight to overcome oppression of any other country or person.

Response by CPT Steve Martin made Mar 20 at 2019 12:08 AM

2019-03-20T00:08:15-04:00

I have no doubts about where I’ll go when I die, but if in someway I’m wrong and find myself in Heaven, I’d gladly serve gate guard in order to give my Marine friends leave.

Response by PO2 Nasser Montes made Mar 20 at 2019 12:36 AM

2019-03-20T00:36:38-04:00

Oh please, come on shipmate, everyone knows that the Marines is still a PART OF THE NAVY!

Response by John Senft made Mar 20 at 2019 12:48 AM

2019-03-20T00:48:23-04:00

Really? Just let the Marines do what they do best...be Marines!

Response by Cpl Jack Adams made Mar 20 at 2019 1:45 AM

2019-03-20T01:45:51-04:00

Most military branch members don't know the words to their own fight song, much less the third verse of the Marine Corps Hymn. I don't see it as an immediate issue. Other branches can see that the White House, embassies and presidential flights are guarded by US Marines. If they feel devalued, I have nothing for them.

Response by SSG Gregg Mourizen made Mar 20 at 2019 3:48 AM

2019-03-20T03:48:10-04:00

Guard duty, is hardly anyone's sense of heathen. Can you imagine everyone in paradise, while you stand guard? Pence, or a form of hell. You decide.

Response by MAJ John Kirkbride made Mar 20 at 2019 6:16 AM

2019-03-20T06:16:45-04:00

Heck that is nothing, you should hear Paratropers sing “Blood upon the risers!”

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2019 6:27 AM

2019-03-20T06:27:58-04:00

The Marine might guard the gates of heaven but the Seabees built the roads they used to get there the guard towers they use and their barracks and chow hall.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2019 7:05 AM

2019-03-20T07:05:45-04:00

No no no. Its part of their tradition I would never condone such an atrocity to happen for sake of feelings. Next thing you know Fiddlers Green will be struck from tradition of the cav because it mentions hell and a quick death over being tortured.

Response by PO3 Douglas George made Mar 20 at 2019 7:18 AM

2019-03-20T07:18:39-04:00

No worries.Who do you think they call for gunfire support?

Response by CPO Rob Karafa made Mar 20 at 2019 8:14 AM

2019-03-20T08:14:30-04:00

Esprit de corps. Get over it. Sorry for being so straight forward...well not really.

Response by CH (CPT) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2019 9:32 AM

2019-03-20T09:32:02-04:00

I'm in the Army...keep the lyrics no skin off our nose!

Response by SFC Elio Garcia made Mar 20 at 2019 9:48 AM

2019-03-20T09:48:44-04:00

My son was in the USMC from 99-03, I supported him on a daily base with encouragement and guidance. I do not get offended by the Marines Hymn after all we Rangers know who the Big Ranger in the Sky is. Not to rile any more rhetoric into this discussion. Army Ranger Units were formed in 1756 by Maj Robert Rogers of New Hampshire recruiting colonist to fight during the French and Indian Wars. Also the US Army was formed before the Marines or the Navy were, and the AirForce is an offspring from the US Army Air Corps.. AATW/RLTW

Response by CPL Bryan Piercy made Mar 20 at 2019 3:52 PM

2019-03-20T15:52:29-04:00

I am ex Army. I'm very proud the Marines have the duty. DO NOT CHANGE A WORD! Semper Fi!

Response by SFC Mark Lathan made Mar 21 at 2019 4:57 AM

2019-03-21T04:57:43-04:00

“Streets are guarded...” sounds suspiciously like endless post beautication. Well, at least they get and endless supply of crayons.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2019 10:59 AM

2019-03-21T10:59:07-04:00

You can keep your guard shift in Heaven, I'll be partying it up like a champ in Fiddler's Green.

Response by MAJ Michael Hoevelman made Mar 21 at 2019 12:34 PM

2019-03-21T12:34:01-04:00

Trouble maker. Hell no, leave it alone. Everyone should have a dream.

Response by Lt Col George Roll made Mar 21 at 2019 2:07 PM

2019-03-21T14:07:17-04:00

The Marine Hymn is just fine! As an AF veteran I have no problem with their traditional words.
It can't be prooven either way so let our Marines express their pride!

Response by MCPO Robert Cornish made Mar 21 at 2019 8:39 PM

2019-03-21T20:39:28-04:00

Retired Navy, doesn’t bother me at all, and I would be disappointed if the Marine Corps changed it. If it bothers you, stick your fingers in your ears.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 7:31 AM

2019-03-22T07:31:28-04:00

Given that those lyrics were signed off on by the Commandant in 1929, i would say you are a little late to the party. Respectfully, find something else to get wound up about.

Response by CPT Roger Boll made Mar 22 at 2019 1:49 PM

2019-03-22T13:49:11-04:00

Only the Marines would find guard duty in heaven necessary!

Response by PO2 Karl Lehn made Mar 22 at 2019 1:50 PM

2019-03-22T13:50:45-04:00

Petty officer, petty being the operative word, stand down and get a grip. Like the Master Chief said I worked on 2 gators and I'll say some of my best shipmates were Marines. You just remember that before "special forces" were created the US Navy already had special forces- US MARINES!
To all my USMC friends out there- SEMPER FI, DO OR DIE! OORAH

Response by SFC William Dinwiddie made Mar 22 at 2019 2:24 PM

2019-03-22T14:24:01-04:00

Jeez whizz can see come up with something worth arguing about

Response by MSG Michael McEleney made Mar 22 at 2019 3:03 PM

2019-03-22T15:03:31-04:00

If your feelings are hurt by the Marine Corps Hymn, are you sure you’re mature enough to be in any armed service?

Response by Edward Samsen made Mar 22 at 2019 3:05 PM

2019-03-22T15:05:34-04:00

The Marine's Hymn shouln not be revised or changed. The GOOD LORD selected the MARINES to guard the streets of heaven. Marines earned that right through their many battles on foreign shores. Find a copy of the Marine's prayer...Please God let me into Heaven......I've already served my time in HELL.
I am not a Marine, never have been a Marine but my Uncle Lloyd Larsen served during Korea, my favorite English teacher was a Marine again during Korea....carried the BAR as his primary weapon RIP Russ Bonanno.

Response by LCpl Steve Camp made Mar 22 at 2019 8:58 PM

2019-03-22T20:58:43-04:00

Will the NAVY change ANCHORS AWAY not to hurt ARMY football feelings?jafaf

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2019 9:48 AM

2019-03-23T09:48:41-04:00

The Army isn't worried about a song we love the other branches no matter how much shit talk goes on it just means when we get to heaven we can rest and let the Marines continue their hard work

Response by CW4 Jim Shelburn made Mar 23 at 2019 10:40 AM

2019-03-23T10:40:52-04:00

You have too much time on your hands.

Response by CPL Drew Bidwell made Mar 23 at 2019 7:35 PM

2019-03-23T19:35:54-04:00

You guys can stay on guard duty I'm hitting up the class 6

Response by SSgt David Haney made Mar 23 at 2019 9:38 PM

2019-03-23T21:38:15-04:00

I do not subscribe to the religion of PC. It's something weak people conjured up trying to prevent other peoples feelings from being hurt. There is an old saying, (A lot older than PC.) "If the truth hurts" Fix it! Pick up you ruck and move on!

Response by SSgt David Haney made Mar 23 at 2019 9:48 PM

2019-03-23T21:48:12-04:00

PO1, I say YOU worry about YOU! I'll worry about Me! Everyone else can worry about themselves. To many idiots running around today wanting to change everyone. If my friend needs help, Im there. I'm not perfect either, so I'm not going to tell anyone else what to do or how to live there life. It's a pisser because the ultra liberal Dem's have it all planned out for you and me, like the good socialists they are.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2019 3:37 AM

2019-03-24T03:37:01-04:00

Ok so I am army. I don't think the marines guard the streets of heaven. I also think that anyone who would be offended by this should be given a 214. Strip the mos and branch crap away and boil this military thing down to its barest bones. We kill people for a living. We shouldn't have to worry about being politically correct when doing it.

Response by SFC Tim Mosher made Mar 24 at 2019 8:22 AM

2019-03-24T08:22:53-04:00

I'm giving this post a thumbs up not because I care, but rather because this guy is a good stirrer.

Response by MSgt J D McKee made Mar 24 at 2019 5:39 PM

2019-03-24T17:39:57-04:00

Heh. Their dress uniforms sure look a lot better than anyone else's. With that, and given their track record, I would expect them to be guarding Heaven. I expect they guard the gates of Valhalla, too, but probably wearing BDU's and half drunk with a couple hot Valkyries apiece hanging around.

Maybe it's like embassies, in which case they no doubt also guard Hell. From the outside keeping the inmates in. I wouldn't be offended at all if the USAF were included in the "throw off on everybody else" part of the song.

When I think of Marines, I can never forget Lance Corporal Jordan Haerter and Corporal Jonathon Yale. They could have run and probably saved their lives, as the Iraqis with them did, but instead they blew their way right into Valhalla, or Heaven, or wherever warriors go, and saved an estimated 50 plus fellow marines as well as some trash people that don't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence. If that isn't Semper Fucking Fi i don't know what is. History is full of Marines doing shit like that, so whatever the Marines want for their song is just fine with me. They've earned the right thousands of times.

What I really don't understand and think is just wrong is that Haerter and Yale didn't get the Medal.

But the best related song ever is the Marine version of the The Warrior's Song. It's on YouTube, the USAF version is called "Aer Vis" which will lead to the Marine one if you can't find the Marine one right off.

Response by SSgt Tracy Kawasaki made Mar 24 at 2019 6:58 PM

2019-03-24T18:58:24-04:00

If Uncle Sam's Misguided Children need a song to make themselves feel better about themselves. Let them have it.
I was called upon to use an LTD. Laser target designator. Now as an Air Force man, I was in no shape to hold it out into the desert carrying the LTD. and my pack. I was partnered with a marine who carried the LTD, his pack, and my pack. No way I would have made it on my own. Now, they needed me because they had no marines that could operate the damned thing. I carried the tools to repair and calibrate the POS. AF brains and Marine brawn. Mission complete.

Response by PO1 Thomas Williams made Mar 25 at 2019 11:21 AM

2019-03-25T11:21:27-04:00

The one thing I do know for sure about the USMC, it is a department of the NAVY. Keep your lyrics , nobody from the Navy cares.

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Mar 25 at 2019 1:00 PM

2019-03-25T13:00:57-04:00

As an ex-Army guy, I say no. If we have to make the Marine Corps hymn PC then it is only a matter of time before the Army hymn be changed to "The Joint Services go rolling and flying and sailing alone. That would suck. As it stands now, the Marine Hymn is a fantastic tradition that instills pride in the service. Having to go to the Navy for everything they have the Hymn is one of the only things they have. That the Marines disparage the Army means they are just jealous of the better service and rival. Let them have the Hymn.

Response by LCpl David Hatheway made Mar 25 at 2019 5:21 PM

2019-03-25T17:21:25-04:00

Marines made a deal with God : providing sentry duty relieves them from ALL other working parties .

Response by CPT Timothy Morris made Mar 26 at 2019 12:30 AM

2019-03-26T00:30:58-04:00

No. I'm a former USAR Armor office with 17 years service in the ready reserve and I have no problem with the Marine Hymn. I know who the real senior service is.

Response by SSG Dave Wallace made Mar 26 at 2019 1:07 AM

2019-03-26T01:07:06-04:00

I figure it's their story, let them tell it how ever they want, no matter how misguided. :-)

Response by SGT Richard Pringle made Mar 26 at 2019 1:08 PM

2019-03-26T13:08:10-04:00

I served in the Army active and reserve. Retired after a total of 24 yrs, 3 months. I would not change in the Marines Hymn. I count them as brothers in arms and proudly so.

Response by SGT Timothy Strashinsky made Mar 26 at 2019 2:49 PM

2019-03-26T14:49:25-04:00

All i know is i'll find my cousin, and hopefully he will let me in. Til valhalla sgt joe murray.

Response by SGT Donald Larsen made Mar 26 at 2019 6:42 PM

2019-03-26T18:42:14-04:00

Stupid waste of time article. If army and navy were that soft smh. Love our interservice rivalry. Met rockstars and dirtbags in all branches . Biggest takeaway.... a brotherhood, we can mess with each other all day but no one else better even think they can try. Just occurred to me all our cadences would make civilians run and cry with their hurt feelings.

Response by CPO David Reilly Jr made Mar 26 at 2019 7:05 PM

2019-03-26T19:05:59-04:00

Change the lyrics: HELL NO.

I like the idea the Marines are standing guard at the Gates to Heaven: if they do half the job they do guarding bases, facilities, and embassies, then Heaven will be very secure.

If snowflakes and others are offended by the military TOUGH SHIT!

Response by Cpl Kent Mitchell made Mar 26 at 2019 7:26 PM

2019-03-26T19:26:05-04:00

Deal with it.

Response by CPO Wayne Lloyd made Mar 26 at 2019 11:30 PM

2019-03-26T23:30:02-04:00

That’s there job

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2019 9:40 AM

2019-03-27T09:40:13-04:00

I’ll tell you a little secret, we’ll never change it and ain’t nobody gonna make us

Response by CDR William Kempner made Mar 29 at 2019 11:29 AM

2019-03-29T11:29:27-04:00

Nah, Just Marines being Marines. Leave it alone. As a sailor who served alongside Marines a number of times, I found that as a rule, we got along fine. (Always a few jerks on either side, but that's life). As for the back and forth, that's what brothers(and sisters-I'll be PC!) do!! You can bicker, even fight, but when the show starts, we are all in it together. Proud of our Marines.

Response by MGySgt Joseph Magyar made Mar 31 at 2019 2:10 PM

2019-03-31T14:10:53-04:00

bull shit

Response by Sgt Eric L West Sr made Mar 31 at 2019 11:33 PM

2019-03-31T23:33:44-04:00

As a young recruit, I was taught the the Big Man upstairs always want to be a Marine, therefore you can find his Holiness in a set Dress Blues in Heaven, chat chatting with his favorites (Devildogs)

Response by Cpl Bryan Clark made Apr 4 at 2019 8:49 AM

2019-04-04T08:49:10-04:00

1. It's a representative republic not a democracy.
2. Nobody in my service cares about your feelings.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 6 at 2019 3:05 PM

2019-04-06T15:05:10-04:00

I like the saying we all bleed red.

Response by CPT Michael Moyers made Apr 10 at 2019 6:37 PM

2019-04-10T18:37:59-04:00

I’m totally cool with Marines guarding Heaven’s streets. After all, they’re only doing it for 6 months at a time because “ship rotations” or something like that.

Response by LTC Donell Kelly made Apr 12 at 2019 8:26 PM

2019-04-12T20:26:43-04:00

It’s NOT broken, so don’t “fix” it!

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Apr 13 at 2019 5:44 AM

2019-04-13T05:44:50-04:00

1. We don't have a democracy - we are guaranteed a republican form of government (Art 4, Sec 4)
2. Anyone who is seriously offended by the USMC's lyrics need to slap their mama's for raising such a wussy.
3. Not only do we need to leave the Marine Corps hymn alone, but we need to teach everyone what the halls of Montezuma AND the Shores of Tripoli mean! Many don't even know that the shores of Tripoli is in reference to the Barbary Wars that we had to fight in the Mediterranean because Muslims were attacking our merchant ships before we ever even had a foreign policy. Adams and Jefferson went to find out why we were being attacked.. Adams pussed out and paid the jizyya tax (tribute) but Jefferson said hell no and in 1801 took our Navy and Marines and whopped their asses on the shores of Tripoli.

NO WAY - Keep the hymn the way it is.

And I'm a Sailor... (FMF)

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Apr 14 at 2019 9:40 AM

2019-04-14T09:40:01-04:00

SMFH i would think someone has to much time on there hands some one find something for him to do. opps now i gender assigned see what happens when people come up with dumb things.

Response by PO2 Wayne Durham made Apr 15 at 2019 6:23 PM

2019-04-15T18:23:36-04:00

As a former PO2 USN leave tradition alone. Besides, they can’t get there if we don’t transport them. Still love those bellboy uni’s, lol.

Response by SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) made Apr 17 at 2019 6:33 PM

2019-04-17T18:33:12-04:00

*yawn* Who cares?

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Apr 19 at 2019 8:08 AM

2019-04-19T08:08:43-04:00

It has been this way for a long time and no problems so why change it now?

Response by CPO John Moore made Apr 26 at 2019 7:17 PM

2019-04-26T19:17:19-04:00

Leave the "Marine Hymn" as it is. What the words mean is this if the Army, Navy and Airforce are good enough to make it to heaven, they will find the US Marines guarding the streets. get over it and move on to more important things

Response by SFC David Pope, MBA made Apr 29 at 2019 5:30 PM

2019-04-29T17:30:18-04:00

I have no problem with it! I stood GP1 in an embassy with marines. I would be proud to have marines guarding the gates of Heaven. Besides, I hate guard duty!

Response by MAJ Donald Michael made May 12 at 2019 8:09 PM

2019-05-12T20:09:27-04:00

When PETA gets offended by the United States Army song of the “Casons Rolling Along” due to insensitivity for the poor Donkys pulling them, then we can talk about “our feelings”. In other words....I couldn’t care less. I served in the US Army for 28 years. Too busy offending than being offended.

Response by PO2 William Arden made May 13 at 2019 8:24 AM

2019-05-13T08:24:45-04:00

I an a 10 year Navy vet AM2(AW) and I think that is the stupidest shit you could ever ask. The civilians are already little butthurt souls. Military traditions should never be changed for anyone. The Navy got rid of the traditions for crossing the equator while deployed which I think was stupid. Why because the newbies where crying that it was to tough, and wasn't right of what they had To go through. The military has already changed enough since I got out 10 years ago. Rediculous crybabies nowadays

Response by Sgt Ralph DuBois made May 13 at 2019 1:40 PM

2019-05-13T13:40:26-04:00

Why don't you worry about learning the lyrics to your own song, and leave ours alone?

Response by Sgt Ralph DuBois made May 13 at 2019 1:42 PM

2019-05-13T13:42:29-04:00

Petty Officer, learn the lyrics of your own song and leave ours alone.

Response by Denise Rhodes made May 14 at 2019 12:22 AM

2019-05-14T00:22:18-04:00

oh for heaven's sake leave the Marine Hymn alone! Its fine just the way it is. This PC shit needs to end! SMH!

Response by SPC Danny Paquette made May 14 at 2019 10:50 AM

2019-05-14T10:50:36-04:00

The Marines should keep any lyrics or tune they want. They may be needy, requiring a lot of strokes, but when they get them they do alright. Picking on them serves no purpose.

Response by SPC(P) Clifford Deal made May 14 at 2019 11:23 AM

2019-05-14T11:23:08-04:00

Army Vet polled 2 Tin can cousins for our devil dog in law..Leave it be. Frankly glad to shared a division with them and Gen. LeJune at one time. Second Division..Second to None.

Response by SPC(P) Clifford Deal made May 14 at 2019 11:30 AM

2019-05-14T11:30:30-04:00

Army vet: Polled 2 tin can men for our Devil Dog in law: Leave it be. Glad to have shared a division with them and Gen JeJune at one time. Second Dividion, Second to None...
[Hey, SOMEBODY"S gotta take em for a walk..this town has a leash law y'know..]

Response by SGT Derek Wynne made May 14 at 2019 3:15 PM

2019-05-14T15:15:11-04:00

(Not to sound sexist, this is said from pure experience from some not completely stable exes) This must be a woman that started this conversation. First because of the "heh heh" at the end. Men don't just start drama like that and then proceed to think of it as fun. Second, because I've only known women to hear/read/see something and make a far stretched claim from it (Alex Trebek announced he has cancer. He must be trying to get pity so they don't hire a younger host). My apologies to the normal women who read this. I mean no disrespect.

Response by Mark Greenwood made May 14 at 2019 4:24 PM

2019-05-14T16:24:13-04:00

Hell No

Response by PO2 John Driskill made May 15 at 2019 10:03 AM

2019-05-15T10:03:58-04:00

No, leave it be. The Navy has the perfect drinking song. The Army bastardized the "Cassions Go Rolling Along". The Air Force has their song up in the wild blue yonder. Don't know what the Coast Guard has for a song but I'm sure a Coastie will pipe up and let me know.

Response by SSG Paul Domingue made May 15 at 2019 12:30 PM

2019-05-15T12:30:30-04:00

Remember, when God needed somebody to build those gates, he requested the United States Navy Seabees who did a fantastic job. The Seabees build it, the Marines guard it, so they better stand firm and change nothing.

Response by Cpl Lloyd Martin made May 15 at 2019 4:57 PM

2019-05-15T16:57:47-04:00

Hell no Don't change it.
It's not BROKE DON'T FK WITH IT

Response by PFC Alan Conrad made May 15 at 2019 8:48 PM

2019-05-15T20:48:25-04:00

No way

Response by Cpl Walter Roberts made May 15 at 2019 8:53 PM

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Response by MGySgt Joseph Magyar made May 16 at 2019 12:35 AM

2019-05-16T00:35:20-04:00

If the Marines have to change their Hymn because of some sensitive little babies feelings then it will no longer be the Corps. Oh sorry for your hurt hat ever.

Response by TSgt Hugh Turner made May 16 at 2019 5:38 AM

2019-05-16T05:38:16-04:00

None of the military songs should be touched. Regardless of a song, the interbranch joking when it hits the fan we are all brothers and sisters in arms. The military should not worry about this PC crap that is destroying the country. The job of the miltary is not to make you feel good and baby you. The job is to kick butt on any one that threats us or allies. Join the miltary is not a right it is an honor

Response by GySgt Ken Norwood made May 16 at 2019 10:42 AM

2019-05-16T10:42:21-04:00

Marines do what we do, not for the approval of other services but because we are Marines and it is the Marine way. The Army, Navy and Air Force have songs, ONLY the Marines have a Hymn!

Response by 1SG James Kelly made May 16 at 2019 1:43 PM

2019-05-16T13:43:27-04:00

Anyone around here want to try and change it?

Didn't think so; shut up and continue to march.

Response by SPC MaryFaith Lochner made May 16 at 2019 2:46 PM

2019-05-16T14:46:49-04:00

I'm Army....but I respect the Marine corps and their hymm. Go US Military!

Response by PO3 Thomas Mastrangelo made May 16 at 2019 4:28 PM

2019-05-16T16:28:31-04:00

I want to weigh in on this. As a proud United States Navy Veteran who served in the Vietnam theater I vote for not changing one word of the Marine's Hymn. I am thankful for our great Marines as I am thankful for every service member that joins to make our home land safe and to (be honest) promote our values. The Marine Corp with the help of the Navy, Army, Air Force and Coast Guard seek out and subdue our enemies. We all need each other and we all support each other. Not one of us is an island. But the Marines are the front line hunters. Many a time what motivates a combat service man is the killing of his buddy, usually a Marine. Marines are often the sacrifice to help the rest of us to target the enemy. Now yes, the Navy Seals and Army Special Forces are likewise as gallant-as brave as are other unique elements of our armed forces. At the top of all this is every one of us is thankful for each of us.
I would not change a word.

Response by Cpl Yonnie Nania made May 16 at 2019 6:26 PM

2019-05-16T18:26:48-04:00

SERIOUSLY!!!! If you want to add the Coast Guard I’m good. Or don’t touch it. I love shallow water coasties. No offense meant

Response by SMSgt Terry Ranes made May 17 at 2019 1:07 PM

2019-05-17T13:07:48-04:00

I am amazed that anyone other than a Jarhead would even pay attention or know the lyrics to that song. Carry on.

Response by PO2 David Allender made May 18 at 2019 12:14 PM

2019-05-18T12:14:20-04:00

No! It is as much a part of the Corp as the Naval Hym is for the Navy.

Response by 1stLt Mike McElroy made May 18 at 2019 12:29 PM

2019-05-18T12:29:20-04:00

No way it should be changed!

Response by PO2 David Allender made May 18 at 2019 12:31 PM

2019-05-18T12:31:34-04:00

Read the History of the Corp. In World War 1 the Allies were running from the Germans at Bellea Wood. The Marines came in and saved the day, turning a route into an Allied victory. World War 2, if it hadn't have been for the Corp, we'd stil be fighting World War 2. The Corp fought some of the neanest battles of the war, while the Army had to stop anbd recuparate too much. So even though I was Navy, I know where and when the Corp was to save the day. GOD bless the U.S. MARINE CORP. They are the best to have on owr side, so stop your complaining.

Response by Maj Aaron Kozloski made May 18 at 2019 4:19 PM

2019-05-18T16:19:48-04:00

This has to be the most faggotshit transvestite pussy assed question ever posed here. Your little sensibilities are bruised. Over our hymn. GTF out of my fighting hole . . .

Response by Joe Lombardo made May 18 at 2019 4:45 PM

2019-05-18T16:45:48-04:00

Nope
Leave it alone. After all, they are the Marines

Response by SGT Fredrick Ramm made May 19 at 2019 3:11 PM

2019-05-19T15:11:17-04:00

Along the same subject. I get a little POed about the negativity back in the 70s, that was given to The Garry Owen...sorry, I'm (mostly) Irish and a Tanker!

Response by MSG Biran Colwell made May 20 at 2019 12:52 PM

2019-05-20T12:52:32-04:00

Seems to be a few Military Members out there that will complain about anything, from Ribbons to Hymn's. I my self like the Marine corps Hymn and I'm Army. Stop being so Sensitive, be proud of your Branch of Service and stop worrying about the small stuff.

Response by PO3 Stacy Wolf made May 20 at 2019 2:06 PM

2019-05-20T14:06:25-04:00

I'm a Navy vet, I give Marines shit all the time. Lol it's part of our culture, but bottom line out of all the branches, I have the deepest respect for the Marines! If any branch is going to guard the pearly gates it's the Marines!!! Besides let's get real, sailor's are not going to want to guard heaven,we want to sail the clouds, and hit the heavenly ports and party

Response by SMSgt Clayton Cortinas made May 21 at 2019 11:13 AM

2019-05-21T11:13:59-04:00

Good Lord, quit watching television news and grow up!

Response by Cpl Jackson Spurlock made May 27 at 2019 11:17 AM

2019-05-27T11:17:20-04:00

No Way in hell!!!

Response by SP5 Michael Cates made May 27 at 2019 6:20 PM

2019-05-27T18:20:31-04:00

Waist of ENERGY! BUT NO!!!

Response by SGT Charles Tillman made May 29 at 2019 2:56 PM

2019-05-29T14:56:08-04:00

PO Jeter, just what is the problem? When I get to Heaven it will not bother me in the least if the Marines pull guard duty.

Response by PVT William Mullahy made Jun 7 at 2019 6:41 PM

2019-06-07T18:41:45-04:00

NO, For my dad CPL John M Mullahy Marines WWII. Semper FI !

Response by SGT Daniel Durkovich made Jun 8 at 2019 10:45 AM

2019-06-08T10:45:47-04:00

Leave that shit alone. Doesn't matter what branch of military you served. If your butt hurt suck it up. And yes you are an ass for bringing it up!

Response by CPL Sharon Fahey made Jun 11 at 2019 11:47 PM

2019-06-11T23:47:44-04:00

The Marine Corp Hymn is for the Marines! Since it's inception they have had to deal with a lot of crap from the Army and Navy, especially the Navy. So if having to pass through gates guarded by Marines bothers anyone too bad, you didn't mind them guarding your Brigs, Presidents, weapons or our country, why the gates of heaven?! Unless of course you have no business trying to pass through, then they may lock and load on your trespassing ass, lol. Leave our Marines alone.

Response by Sgt Michael Clifford made Jun 12 at 2019 2:23 PM

2019-06-12T14:23:18-04:00

There is nothing wrong with the Hymn. A simple statement of fact does not require any "revamping".

Response by SSG Stephan Gunn made Jun 12 at 2019 3:20 PM

2019-06-12T15:20:22-04:00

I think, as an old Ranger, I’ll skip teatime with the Marines. No offense, but I’ll be looking for something to blow up...

Response by SSG Branyn Burkhart made Jun 12 at 2019 7:00 PM

2019-06-12T19:00:09-04:00

I can’t believe this question was thought of, let alone asked.

Response by SSG Allen Tweddle made Jun 12 at 2019 10:59 PM

2019-06-12T22:59:42-04:00

...there are only two people whom I would follow to the end of the Earth, one of them a Soldier's General, and one of them a Marine...

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2019 3:43 AM

2019-06-13T03:43:15-04:00

Troll.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Jun 13 at 2019 10:38 AM

2019-06-13T10:38:57-04:00

Well the troops in Third Infantry Division have it right "I wouldn't give a bean
To be a fancy pants Marine" enough said!

Response by SSgt James Likins made Jun 13 at 2019 5:08 PM

2019-06-13T17:08:02-04:00

Leave it alone

Response by CW2 Donald Loughrey made Jun 13 at 2019 7:59 PM

2019-06-13T19:59:41-04:00

No. Never. Shouldn't even be considered. If a Marine doesn't care for this iconic piece of music, then he/she is missing part of what it means to be a US Marine. That's how this Retired Army Paratrooper feels.

Response by SSgt Chris Francis made Jun 14 at 2019 2:24 AM

2019-06-14T02:24:00-04:00

You,re right. The part about being a turd that is.

Response by LCpl Lynn Breon made Jun 14 at 2019 6:45 AM

2019-06-14T06:45:17-04:00

No.

You want to know why we bag on other branches so hard? Because they get silica induced vaginosis over silly shit like this!

Response by Cpl Bill Herman made Jun 14 at 2019 5:26 PM

2019-06-14T17:26:05-04:00

Semper Fi, Gung Ho and the hell with anyone anywhere wanting to ever change the CORPS.
We will always respect the other Branches incl. the Special Forces they have, but the Corps will always be first in line as far as any real Marines are ever concerned. I do believe our History has earned that right.

Response by SSG Chris Furney made Jun 14 at 2019 6:31 PM

2019-06-14T18:31:51-04:00

God looks down on some army guys rowing a rubber raft across a lake. God is pissed at the Army a lot of times, because we kill things a lot. The Army guys are singing "over hill, over dale as we hit the dusty trail... So God decided to take away half their brains. They sing slower. Ooooover hiillll, oooover daaaaale..... So God takes away another quarter- they get slower. Oooooveeerrrr hhiiiillll, oooovvveeerrr daaaaaallle... So God takes away ALL their brains. From the boat, he hear From the halls of montezuma, to the shores of tripoli...

Response by SSgt David Hart made Jun 14 at 2019 11:33 PM

2019-06-14T23:33:46-04:00

No the hymn should not be changed now or never.
If the cry babby don't like it tough. from SSGT David H Hart

Response by Cpl Tony Hughes made Jun 15 at 2019 2:28 AM

2019-06-15T02:28:54-04:00

There are way to many PC mind sets being push into or brought in to the military. Traditions are called traditions for a reason. If people in other branches are getting their feelings hurt then they should write their own songs. Wait they have. When did the military start taking in "snow flakes". The military still fights with more than just words right? We do more than just hurt feeling right.

Response by MSgt Mike (Lobo VNV Original) Morrow made Jun 15 at 2019 2:26 PM

2019-06-15T14:26:00-04:00

Not no, but hell no. I've had an Uncle, Brother-in-law, a son, and several Brothers of the VNVmc who are Marines; why would the Corps change their hymn to accommodate some wussy that needs to set in a corner and be safe.

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Jun 15 at 2019 4:52 PM

2019-06-15T16:52:50-04:00

Why? I'm an Army guy and I think the Marines have the best song of us all, hands down. Quit being a whiney squid.

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Jun 15 at 2019 5:51 PM

2019-06-15T17:51:05-04:00

I feel like the more pertinent question is when are your nuts gona drop and you start getting some testosterone in ya and start shaving? And shouldn't you have a little more self worth and pride than crying about the Marine hymn and your girlish sensitivities? As a former Army combat engineer, I strongly recommend you quit taking your sister's birth control pills, quit driving around in her cute lily Mustang and start acting like a grown man. Moreover, to help you along on your path to becoming something that loosely resembles a Male, I suggest you take a nice clean wash cloth, puth some gentle liquid soap such as Dawn on it, then grab by opposite corners with your hands and firmly rub it against your crotch to remove all that sand in your snatch...or at least the larger grains that cause the most irritation. Then take a pressure washer and pressure wash your snatch till all the blue waffle stuff is out of it, then apply some lotion to it for relief. Maybe you won't feel like a brand new man afterwards, but maybe, just maybe you'll feel like less of a girl.

Response by LT Robert P. Bowles made Jun 15 at 2019 6:19 PM

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2019 9:34 PM

2019-06-15T21:34:18-04:00

Hell No

Response by SFC Jim Turner made Jun 16 at 2019 10:57 AM

2019-06-16T10:57:56-04:00

Marines Ned those lyrics to make up for the fact that they are not the “FIRST to FIGHT” HOOAH!!! Besides when I die I’ll be on Fiddlers Green. 11th ACR, Blackhorse.

Response by LCpl Michael Cappello made Jun 16 at 2019 11:49 AM

2019-06-16T11:49:15-04:00

Hell NO !!!
Marines know how to use their bayonets. Army bayonets may as well be paper-weights.
Navy Times; November 1994

Why in hell can't the Army do it if the Marines can. They are the same kind of men; why can't they be like Marines.
Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, USA; 12 February 1918

Response by SGT Tim Fridley made Jun 16 at 2019 12:15 PM

2019-06-16T12:15:22-04:00

As an Army SGT (RET) I suggest that if you are Butthurt over the words of a song you have no business serving in any branch of our Military Machine

Response by SPC Josh Thompson made Jun 16 at 2019 1:06 PM

2019-06-16T13:06:03-04:00

Petty Officer whiny pants, why should they revamp it. I am an Army Veteran. And apparently un like the Navy we don’t give the the north end of a southbound rat what the Marine Corp hymn says. We all have deep traditions and they all should be honored . If you are the modern navy Lord Help is if you have to go to war and bullets start flying. At that point who cares.

Response by SGM Ronald Cheatom made Jun 16 at 2019 3:33 PM

2019-06-16T15:33:41-04:00

I'm an old soldier, and have the utmost pride, in my branch of service.
That being said, I respect all services, and the traditions, that they hold too, and that hold them together.
Leave it alone.

Response by LT Ed Skiba made Jun 16 at 2019 8:37 PM

2019-06-16T20:37:04-04:00

Of course not. I'm a retired sailor and I stand by their responsibility to guard the gates. When they get off watch they can shine St. Peter's shoes as well! ..
LOL.

Response by LTC Marvin Gibson made Jun 16 at 2019 8:38 PM

2019-06-16T20:38:30-04:00

Of course...

Response by LTC Ronald Stephens made Jun 17 at 2019 11:28 AM

2019-06-17T11:28:07-04:00

The Marines are the second smallest force in our military. Only the Air force is smaller. Let them have their fun.

Response by SPC Chris Ison made Jun 17 at 2019 11:36 AM

2019-06-17T11:36:12-04:00

Marines think very highly of themselves. and a little inter branch rivalry never hurt anyone.

The question is not, "should the marine corps hymn be changed" the answer is, How do we get the other branches to be the cult of personality the marine corps is?

Response by Sgt Eoin Stewart made Jun 17 at 2019 11:51 AM

2019-06-17T11:51:08-04:00

Are you out of your freak’n swabby Ming?!?!? No, not touch our Hymn. It’s got nothing to do with any other service and as an Old Corps Marine, I say we don’t need ANYONE’S input, whether they’re military or civilian!!! Semper Fi, do or die, God bless our Corps of Marines!

Response by TSgt Gary McPherson made Jun 17 at 2019 12:54 PM

2019-06-17T12:54:50-04:00

NO.If it is not broke don't touch it.As a former Marine and retired USAF I still get goose bumps when I hear it.Lots of pride in it.Makes one stand a wee bit taller when the band passes by playing it.Each branch has theirs and should be proud of it also.

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2019 3:41 PM

2019-06-17T15:41:37-04:00

Having served in the Army and the Coast Guard, and having worked with countless Marines over the years, I've learned that more than any of the other services, they have their branding figured out. Only an insipid fool would consider changing anything regarding their motto, slogan, of, Heaven forbid, their Hymn. Whoever conceived this fantasy never considered wo might be guarding the streets of Heaven if he's ever lucky enough to get there. I'd feel pretty damned honored to be guarded by Marines...

Response by PO1 Tom Mcbride made Jun 18 at 2019 5:35 AM

2019-06-18T05:35:18-04:00

No. Hell no. And, Hell fucking no. None of this softer feelings crap anymore. Marines are the perfect weapon, let them guard. My navy ass plans on enjoying heaven, not guarding it.

Response by CPT Ed Ferguson made Jun 18 at 2019 7:39 AM

2019-06-18T07:39:20-04:00

The Marine Corps Hymn should not change. The Corps is all about history and tradition. Once a Marine always a Marine it is the true meaning ofSemper Fidelis. If you are not a Marine, you will never understand.

Response by SGT Larry Braswell made Jun 18 at 2019 11:41 AM

2019-06-18T11:41:01-04:00

Not Never no ... I am a soldier, former, and no qualms about thinking highly of the Marine Corp brethren and not willing to diminish their much deserved opinion of themselves... An opinion many of us share. They are a different breed of fighting man. Not better, just different.

Response by LCpl Charles Hayes made Jun 18 at 2019 5:16 PM

2019-06-18T17:16:28-04:00

NO!

Response by TSgt Marie Boyd made Jun 19 at 2019 11:49 AM

2019-06-19T11:49:32-04:00

We all serve a higher being

Response by Cpl Harold Koclanes made Jun 19 at 2019 1:00 PM

2019-06-19T13:00:32-04:00

Just leave it the way it is, that is the way it should be. No reason to change.

Response by Cpl Harold Koclanes made Jun 19 at 2019 1:01 PM

2019-06-19T13:01:45-04:00

Leave it the way it is, that is the way it should be. No reason to change.

Response by Cpl Geoff Smith made Jun 19 at 2019 3:01 PM

2019-06-19T15:01:27-04:00

Anybody who wants to guard the streets of heaven should have joined the Marines! There are NO participation trophies just for living!

Response by SSG Roland Shelton made Jun 20 at 2019 2:54 PM

2019-06-20T14:54:10-04:00

I am Army all the way and we're second to none, but in this case the words to the Marines hymn do not need to be changed. It's their hymn and reflective of their pride and I am not offended.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2019 7:30 PM

2019-06-20T19:30:24-04:00

What's wrong with it, why does it need to be changed, just because it's not heavy metal or on the Top 40. Stupid Question, move on.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2019 9:46 PM

2019-06-20T21:46:12-04:00

Meh. Stick, pot, stir. You brought the turd, as you said.
The Marines guard the President, White House, and US Embassies. The Army protects the Tomb of the Unknown. What does the Navy protect? I take it as a reference to the ultimate, most important Embassy of all. But I’m a Marine’s daughter and can say they are something different, and special. Just not sure what kinda special on what day.
If you need to look at it another way just to be the deep turd you claim, the the Army and Navy are looking up, as though still on earth and living, and the are streets of heaven are lined with Uncle Sam’s misguided children...so really....

Response by PO1 John Wypyszinski made Jun 21 at 2019 7:36 AM

2019-06-21T07:36:07-04:00

MA1, trolling isn't a good look at all. Have you ever been a Marine? Have you ever at the very least served in a Marine Corps unit? If not you should probably stay in your lane. Remember the saying "He who tries to stir up sh*t has to lick the spoon." Well, get to licking and if you have all this extra time on your hands maybe you should be using it to mentor your junior sailors instead of worrying about the Marine Corps Hymn.

Response by CPL John Cox made Jun 21 at 2019 8:19 AM

2019-06-21T08:19:12-04:00

As a compromise with regard to the Navy Song might I recommend the modern neuter " Anchors away My Bitches " That way everyone is equally poised off . Problem solved.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2019 10:08 AM

2019-06-21T10:08:23-04:00

Don't feel left out. The Marine Corps is a department of the Navy, the men's department, but never the less, you are included.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2019 7:07 PM

2019-06-21T19:07:57-04:00

We've already wussified much of the military - do you want to corrupt the Marines, too????

Response by SrA Phillip Pentzer made Jun 22 at 2019 9:32 PM

2019-06-22T21:32:34-04:00

Should your mom screw every active duty member ?

Response by CPO Kathryn Robbins made Jun 23 at 2019 8:52 AM

2019-06-23T08:52:56-04:00

Petty Officer First Class
Shall we revamp Anchors Aweigh while we are at it? After all, it talks about drinking and that's a taboo subject now.
If it offends you then close your eyes and ears when it is sung.
Yet another individual who wants to rewrite history.

Response by SFC Ricky Turner made Jun 23 at 2019 10:26 AM

2019-06-23T10:26:26-04:00

Next you will be asking if we should change our flag, because it's offensive to some. Or maybe we should give in to terrorist demands! To heck with those whom get easily offended. Since when do we bow down to every little whim. Enough is enough!

Response by SSG Thomas Barry made Jun 23 at 2019 7:18 PM

2019-06-23T19:18:37-04:00

this is all a bunch of crap because when I served we had a couple of sayings about the Marinees. One, was thank God for the Marines and Two, was God made the Marines cause he was lonely.

Response by PO1 Robert George made Jun 24 at 2019 12:18 AM

2019-06-24T00:18:34-04:00

Somebody either not to smart or wanting to start some shit! No changes! Yeah, Marines are a pain in the ass. You ever know a brother who wasn't? !5 years at sea, 12 on gators. When it comes to Marines, don't leave without 'em!

Response by SMSgt Edward McCarter made Jun 24 at 2019 8:15 AM

2019-06-24T08:15:28-04:00

If that is all it takes to make feel devalued, you might want to grow some thicker skin and get a grip. Having pride in your branch and saying so is a time honored tradition. If that is all you have to bitch about, you need to take a good look around you.

Response by SMSgt Edward McCarter made Jun 24 at 2019 8:21 AM

2019-06-24T08:21:03-04:00

Being proud of your branch and saying so is a time honored tradition. If your skin is so thin that things like this truly make you feel de valued, you need to get a grip on the real world. If this is really the only thing you have to bitch about then you are one of the luckiest folks on the planet. Get a grip.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2019 8:53 AM

2019-06-24T08:53:38-04:00

Let the Marines guard the streets of heaven, while I'm kicking back in my recliner with a good beer.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2019 8:53 AM

2019-06-24T08:53:38-04:00

Let the Marines guard the streets of heaven, while I'm kicking back in my recliner with a good beer.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2019 8:53 AM

2019-06-24T08:53:40-04:00

Let the Marines guard the streets of heaven, while I'm kicking back in my recliner with a good beer.

Response by Cpl David Rowland made Jun 24 at 2019 1:09 PM

2019-06-24T13:09:09-04:00

If anyone tries to change my Marine Corp Hymn. If they don't put him or her before a firing squad, I will take matters into my own hands. Anybody that is offended by that, needs to get out of his or her crib and join the real world. Semper Fidelis!

Response by SFC Carl Olney made Jun 24 at 2019 4:46 PM

2019-06-24T16:46:22-04:00

Army speaking here, Who in the Hell came up with that idea. Did somebody in Washington have a brain fart?

Response by PO2 Bob Adair made Jun 25 at 2019 8:11 PM

2019-06-25T20:11:56-04:00

I am Navy through and through, I have been a Destroyer Sailor and an Amphib Sailor, and loved them both, have some good friends who are Marines, as well as a brother and 2 cousins. Also 2 brothers who served in Viet Nam, one Army, one Navy, and my Dad served in the CG in WWII, so I deeply respect all branches of service......yes even the Country Club (Air Force). My opinion about changing ANY Military tradition is to absolutely NOT change any of the traditions our Military has developed, they have already done away with way too many in the name of political correctness, which makes me sick! I am also a bit old school and don't agree with women serving in combat areas, but if they really want to be equal, then BE EQUAL.......cut your hair, don't wear makeup, and no jewelry except what is allowed for men, after all, isn't that equality?

Response by 1SG Dave Carello made Jun 27 at 2019 9:57 AM

2019-06-27T09:57:11-04:00

As a retired U.S. Army combat veteran, and a "Soldier for life" I have a great, VERY GREAT respect for the U.S. Marines. There has always been a friendly inter service rivalry that I hope is always there. The Hymn is their anthem as it should be and you know as well as I that it will always be so. I believe that the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry Division (Rock of the Marne) has it's own song in which it proclaims "I wouldn't give a bean to be a fancy Pants Marine" all in fun. Just look at the annual Army Navy football game. It is there that you see the Army Navy and Marine Corps Cadets and Midshipmen in all their patriotic glory and, conducting themselves with perfect brotherhood and camaraderie that the NFL has lost forever.

Response by PO3 Christopher Alben made Jul 6 at 2019 1:26 AM

2019-07-06T01:26:25-04:00

Not offended, why would anyone be, let the Marines be the Marines

Response by PO1 Bill Willis made Jul 13 at 2019 9:15 AM

2019-07-13T09:15:00-04:00

He'll no. I also am a Navy (Retired) I would be proud to find my brother sevice guarding heaven.

Response by SrA Justin Dearfield made Jul 20 at 2019 12:00 PM

2019-07-20T12:00:06-04:00

Response by PO3 Dennis Stockinger made Jul 21 at 2019 8:45 AM

2019-07-21T08:45:57-04:00

I was in navy and lived with marines I would never want my marine brothers to change anything I have more marine buddies that I would fight to the death for but they do accuse me of being as crazy as they are leave my marine brothers alone and this political feel good bs dose not belong in any service go get them devil dogs I will be on the beach to pick you up or die trying

Response by SCPO Vick W. made Jul 23 at 2019 2:11 PM

2019-07-23T14:11:58-04:00

For christ sake PO Jester with hog wash like this why to you even bother to post. We have enough PC as it is!

Response by LCpl Paul Ruddell made Jul 28 at 2019 11:07 AM

2019-07-28T11:07:38-04:00

My baby brother retired from the Squids, and if the PC Police are allowed to make those kind of changes I couldn't call him my Chauffeur. LOL

Response by PO1 George Pivnicka made Aug 5 at 2019 2:04 PM

2019-08-05T14:04:22-04:00

Leave it as it is !!!!!!!!!

Response by CW2 Jalistair B made Sep 6 at 2019 10:04 PM

2019-09-06T22:04:36-04:00

LMAO! Clearly you ARE in the Navy because the Army doesn't care what the Marines say about us! At the end of the day we know we can knock out an entire platoon of Marines simply by throwing sand at the wall and telling them to hit the beach! ;)

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Sep 10 at 2019 10:16 AM

2019-09-10T10:16:35-04:00

I entirely follow your thoughts, certainly, however, trust me, that quite simply just ain't never gonna happen, honest....

Response by LTC Ken Connolly made Sep 10 at 2019 12:05 PM

2019-09-10T12:05:41-04:00

You may find a few Marines and other Military members who would tell you they fought at the gates of Hell and therefore served their time there. Then there are others who never returned physically or emotionally and there they remain. However, they will be there for the last battle. One last item and then I will step down off the podium. In times of war, we are one military.

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Sep 10 at 2019 7:05 PM

2019-09-10T19:05:19-04:00

Since the Marines are part of the Navy, they should just sing the Navy hymn. :)

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Sep 16 at 2019 9:24 AM

2019-09-16T09:24:17-04:00

My question is "Who really cares?" Most Marines I know can't sing until it's time for them to sing THAT SONG! And I'm all for it! I'm the grandson of two Montford Point Marines and they sang that song with everything they had while they were on Earth, even though they kinda suck at singing everything else. They and my other Devil Dog friends sound great when they sing it. Some of the 2nd Marine Division guys I called for fire with while deployed couldn't start or end their day without singing the song. I think everything is fine.

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Sep 16 at 2019 9:25 AM

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Response by TSgt Chuck Mankin made Sep 24 at 2019 8:06 AM

2019-09-24T08:06:19-04:00

Wow! The Army and the Navy feel "devalued" by the Marines. Each service has their own specialty and the Marines kill things and guard things. Other services call them Jarheads, crayon eaters, etc. They call the AF Zoomies or tweetie birds, there are tons of things said back and forth but the reality is that we are all one family and we bust on each other like family does. I will call my Marine brothers and sisters all kinds of things but let someone non-military do it and we will beat them together!

Response by TSgt John Powell made Sep 25 at 2019 3:22 AM

2019-09-25T03:22:19-04:00

I am a very proud Retiree of the USAF and I do not think the Marines should change any damn portion of their Hymn. It was created in, and stoked from their history and long lived mission and continued completion of that mission. Hell listen to any of the military songs you can find service shaming in them all. But if you haven't been a part of any of them then you can not understand the "good natured" ribbing that goes on between the devices. But when it comes down to serving and protecting what we all love most, we will always have each other's six. Now try to mess with that.

Response by COL Clifford Wheeler made Oct 2 at 2019 10:38 AM

2019-10-02T10:38:43-04:00

I'm Army. And proud of it. And I have a Navy Unit Commendation for some time I spent fighting with a Marine RCT. They don't need to change a thing. We in the military have already had to change too much for the sake of political correctness. As Harry Truman once said to MacArthur, "Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end!"

Response by GySgt Tim Shepherd made Oct 2 at 2019 5:35 PM

2019-10-02T17:35:19-04:00

My days in the Marine Corps, we were taught three things: Don't mess with a Marine's pay, Don't mess with a Marine's wife/girlfriend (Politically Correct now "Significant Other"), and don't even think about screwing with "The Marine's Hymn." As for standing guard in heaven, it's not about devaluing the Army and the Navy, it's about "the creation pecking order." Everyone knows God created the Heavens and the Earth in six days. On the 7th day, he rested. On the 8th day, he created Marines. And then the Devil said, "Oh, Sh_t! Besides everyone knows there is a part of the Navy, Air Force and Army in Marine Corps history. We stole the Anchor from the Navy. We stole the Eagle from the Air Force and we stole the rope from the Army.
And when you write about us, make sure you "Capitalize the M in Marine!". No one has ever joined the Marine Corps. Marines are created and earn the title of "Marine".

Seriously, so, to our brothers and sisters serving in the Army (This We Will Defend), Navy ("Non sibi sed patriae" (Not self but country), Air Force (Aut Vincere Aut Mors (Latin for "Conquer or Die") and shallow water Navy, (couldn't resist) the United States Coast Guard, Semper Paratus (Always ready), from your brother and sister Marines, Semper Fidelis (Always Faithful!). Your Service is appreciated, honorable and appreciated by all Americans and Military personnel, past and present. I can assure you, every Marine, throughout our history of our beloved Corps, has experienced the beautiful site of a Navy ship to take us home, or Air Force aircraft providing "air support," or Army Brigades with reinforcements and "Hot Chow," or a Coast Guard Cutter searching for a downed Marine Helicopter crew in 10 ft swells. Keep up the good work and stay safe!

By the way, if you are going to sing the Marine's Hymn, know all three verses.
Gunny

Response by SPC Steve Willis, PhD made Oct 4 at 2019 2:55 PM

2019-10-04T14:55:14-04:00

Even though I was not a Marine, I'm a firm believer the Marine Hymn should remain as-is. Any soldier or sailor whose precious feelings are offended by the words needs to shut up and grow a pair.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2019 7:45 PM

2019-10-08T19:45:16-04:00

I'm a bit confused. Why would they change it?

Response by SSgt W. Aaron Gregory made Jun 26 at 2020 3:46 PM

2020-06-26T15:46:37-04:00

Should the Navy's song be changed?
"Anchors Aweigh, my boys, Anchors Aweigh...."
You know... since you're not all boys?

This is how it starts.........

Response by SGT Jim Wiseman made Jun 30 at 2020 1:29 PM

2020-06-30T13:29:39-04:00

They get to keep it! It's tradition! As an Army grunt, I give crap to Marines all the time and I get it right back. That's as it should be! Anyone outside the military who has never served (and has probably never even seriously considered raising their hand) need to mind their own business! We'll give crap to each other all day long and know it's not serious (for most anyway), but someone having never served jumps in on whatever they feel like chiming in on gets every service involved jumping on them. For those I tell: Muscles Are Required Intelligence Not Expected, I get told I Ain't Ready to be a Marine Yet. Laughter follows... usually in a joke about what each service calls a helicopter...