Posted on Mar 5, 2014
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I am currently working with a LTC who is pursuing his PhD and at current, is posing a question for a research paper about the military partnering with higher education institutions with the question above.

In an economy with a financial crisis, and knowing that a four-year degree is starting to become the “standard” certification for employment beyond the military, should the military actively push this initiative?

I know from my experiences, working on the civilian government side, that it is virtually impossible to switch to a GS grade job without a degree. With all of the training and education that the Armed Forces provide for its SMs should that equate to an earned degree after service? If so, why? And how long should
the soldier serve before earning a “general studies” degree?
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SGM Matthew Quick
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The Army PAYS for Soldiers to go to college...you want to just give this away without actually attending college and learning? &nbsp;We learn very little from our daily duties that would prepare us for a civilian career, much less than one that requires formal education.<br><br>How would one be 'granted' an accredited baccalaureate degree for basically 'life skills'?<br><br>This seems to just be another of societies 'everyone gets a trophy' scenario.
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MAJ David Brand
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Sgt Jennifer Mohler - In the past 4 years 1500 Special Forces Soldiers have earned their degree from Fayetteville Technical Community College. They are not a garrison MOS and are deployed quite often.
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SGT Eric Knutson
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I do agree with your general thought, but this time I am going to play a little devils advocate, many of the kids graduating from collage today have what is in effect, basket weaving degrees that are less than useless for any real world applications. I also remember a time when 2 years of honorable service was valued WAY out in front of a collage degree (outside of a limited list of classes like Dr, Lawyer, and Engineers) Also many of the kids did their 4 years and also did barely enough to graduate, sometimes only because "Daddy" bribed the officials or threatened to sue if their kid did not graduate. This idea would level the playing field for our boys and girls reentering the civvie sector is all.
Just a different angle to consider people.
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SPC Joshua Blotzer
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I absolutely agree with you.
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LTC Joseph Gross
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No reason to stop at the General Studies degree. We could just as easily grant everyone a PhD. Then instead of watering down what little credibility is left in an undergraduate degree, we could further undermine the meaning of "doctor".

Most Soldiers who do one term of enlistment will spend less than six months in training and the rest of the time will be spent doing their duty. As a former Infantry Soldier, I can tell you that doesn't help you develop a lot of "life skills". Many Soldiers will come out of the military much less prepared for the civilian world than they were when they enlisted. No need to reward them for this.

Let's keep degrees where they belong, in college. And let's encourage our Soldiers to get a degree while they are in service rather than sitting in the barracks playing X-Box.
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MAJ Innovation And Sustainability Engineer
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Nice one sir.
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MAJ David Brand
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Well said! If we award everyone any degree - it just cheapens it as you have shared.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
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I agree and while I was on active duty I added two years of college credit by taking courses three at a time Four days a week in My off duty time. Not soon after that I became a full time student and received My BS degree. i learned a great deal in the military but that and the added education prepared Me much more than the service alone would have. I never took a course online toward My degree, they were all formal in the classroom courses at fully accredited Colleges and Universities.
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SFC(P) Mcs
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I do not think it is fair to give them a degree at all. They
should go to school and earn it like me and other people I know have done. Most
colleges give you elective credits for some of the stuff that you learn in the
Army. You know how many people would earn a degree simply for being in the Army
and have done absolutely nothing? Most of them do not know history or basic
math and he wants to give them a degree.
To me that is an insult for people who have took their time and went to
college and earned their degree while working or on a deployment.



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