Should the NSA's ability to collect Meta Data be reversed?

Sgt Kelli Mays — Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:22:13 -0500

Now that we have been hit by terrorists.....should the NSA be given the ability to collect meta data once again?

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Dec 4 at 2015 9:28 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:28:00 -0500

It may make sense Sgt Kelli Mays. Since a Federal Judge nixed it, Congress would need to pass a bill with specific goals, limits and oversight in order for it to pass muster with the courts so that civil libertarians who would want to nix it don't succeed.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2015 9:29 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:29:27 -0500

Won't do much good. Yes they may get SOME valuable Intel, but thanks to the media everyone knows about it. They'll just change their TTP's.

It's a back and forth game, and IMO were coming up on the short end of it.

Response by CPO Andy Carrillo, MS made Dec 4 at 2015 9:35 PM

CPO Andy Carrillo, MS — Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:35:28 -0500

How is it that the French authorities were able to 'follow the trail' and make hundreds of arrests and confiscate ordnance so quickly after the Paris massacre, and assist Belgium in conducting their own follow-up investigations and raids--and they don't have the NSA? Or do they profile?

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2015 9:52 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:52:14 -0500

While the NSA was collecting the data, they missed the terrorist couple in CA. How can this be when that is the primary reason they state they were collecting the data? All the money they spent and it was a colossal failure.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Dec 5 at 2015 1:50 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 01:50:20 -0500

"Meta Data" or Traffic Analysis as it was called when I took the course. I have no problem with it. Not that much "Personal" data can be gleaned from that. You can make a lot of inferences about the Network, Organization, Chain of Command, Order of Battle, Who is the Top Dog and Who are Soldiers but that is about it. If they want to great. If not it's use is very limited.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Dec 5 at 2015 3:03 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 03:03:47 -0500

With the current availability of communications encryption, metadata is the only way we have to track terrorist communications traffic; it will give NSA hubs to investigate further and it will not inconvenience the general public. I think the civil libertarians got a bit paranoid on this issue, and that endangers us all.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Dec 5 at 2015 3:14 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 03:14:31 -0500

Not my Problem anymore. I is Retired from No Such Agency for 18 years now. No more Jackasses giving me tickets to Timbuktu anymore.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Dec 5 at 2015 3:01 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 15:01:54 -0500

Yes and give Snowden cement shoes.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Dec 7 at 2015 5:14 AM

PO1 John Miller — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 05:14:53 -0500

No, because there is still such a thing as the Fourth Amendment!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2015 2:44 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:44:15 -0500

Sgt Kelli Mays do you really think they have or will stop?