Should the United States continue military advisory missions in the middle east?

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 23:12:57 -0400

Military Advisers. Should the United States continue military advisory missions in the middle east?

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Response by SSG John Bacon made Jun 12 at 2015 11:25 PM

SSG John Bacon — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 23:25:24 -0400

No, they don't work. The Local Nationals don't trust us they second guess us and flat out don't seem to care. They are much happier when fighting themselves and living in the past.

Response by CW2 Joseph Evans made Jun 13 at 2015 1:18 AM

CW2 Joseph Evans — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 01:18:49 -0400

No, Its a slippery slope.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2015 8:50 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:50:18 -0400

Yes. I think everyone is quick to link Iraq and Afghanistan, both horrible to train, with the whole of the middle east. Think of places where we do have good relationships like Saudi and Egypt. These places build legitimacy that we are not trying to take over the heart of the east but more just trying to stabilize the region.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2015 9:09 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:09:39 -0400

I can't offer an honest opinion because I haven't been afforded an oppunttunity to be on one of these advisory teams but I have many friends of mine who has and they feel that they are making a significant difference over there.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 13 at 2015 1:29 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:29:44 -0400

Military advisors are like coaches preparing a JV against a Varsity team. They are fundamentally relegated to being beaten every game unless we can change the constitution of the team.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Jun 13 at 2015 3:44 PM

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:44:17 -0400

I think it is necessary to stop aggression and more importantly to help our coalition forces defeat the enemy.

Response by SSG Eric Trace made Jun 14 at 2015 10:19 PM

SSG Eric Trace — Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:19:33 -0400

If we don't someone else will and they will not have our interests in mind that is for sure.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2015 10:19 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:19:49 -0400

There are a lot of good answers both ways. But I think the real questions is:

Do you want to fight terrorists on their soil or on ours?

If they'd stick to the sandbox and kill eachother, that would be an acceptable outcome. But they won't. If we don't go there and fight them, then another 911 is just a matter of time.

Response by LTC Stephen Franke made Aug 28 at 2021 2:38 AM

LTC Stephen Franke — Sat, 28 Aug 2021 02:38:59 -0400

Greetings to all in this group.

Today is Friday, 27 August 2021.

If there are any members of this group who are assigned, or otherwise have online access to our Army's Security Forces Assistance Command (SFAC) based at Fort Bragg, NC, they are most welcome and invited to contact me for discussion and sending to SFAC (surmise the G2 or G3 division) some relevant open-source reference materials.

Those materials may well undergird and reinforce SFAC's potential response/defense to some apparently-emerging political "blame-game" finger-pointing exercises recently emerging in the DC area -- and as reported on major media -- about the role and effectiveness of our US military's long-time and diverse advisory effort in Afghanistan (including the various entities, such as MiTTs, AATs, SFAB-resourced Combat Advisor Teams et al).

Asking for such assistance via this Rally Point online list because the SFAB website does not provide an form of "contact us" hyperlink or other contact information.

Regards to all.

Sincerely,

Stephen H. Franke
LTC, FAO (FA 48G - Middle East and
long-time "Gulfie),
US Army Retired
San Pedro, California

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