Posted on Apr 27, 2015
Should the "Up or Out" promotion system be eliminated?
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Promotion has long been the key to making it to 20 years and the "all or nothing" retirement plan. A problem has been that otherwise good troops who didn't want to be promoted (for whatever reason) were forced out and denied a 20-year career. Marginal performers who managed to get promoted up to a certain point were guaranteed the opportunity to stay in until retirement.
Now that the retirement plan appears to be headed toward a civilian industry model, should the military drop the Retention Control Points (RCP)/High-Year Tenure (HYT) gates that force good people out of the service simply because they didn't get promoted by an certain point in the career?
Now that the retirement plan appears to be headed toward a civilian industry model, should the military drop the Retention Control Points (RCP)/High-Year Tenure (HYT) gates that force good people out of the service simply because they didn't get promoted by an certain point in the career?
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The
Promotion System. E5 and below promotions is fine the way it is. Promotion to E6,
the only change I would make is; make it a Brigade Level Board and Platoon
Sergeants are the Sponsors. Currently at
the BN and below level, there’s too much familiarity with the person, especially
if they are “board-babies”, they would be required to not only answer
questions, but in scenario driven questions based on the board topics (similar
to Audie Murphy boards). Then they would
provide their records file like for the E7 boards for review. This way they can
be head-on questioned about anything questionable in their files. E7 boards I
think should be done the same way, but at Installation level. Sure, the process may take a long time, but
the fix, give notice and break it down by alphabetical order or numbers
according to days to convene. This would force a “self-weed out” process,
whereas those know they may not be worthy of promotion at that time won’t
compete or even show-up. Screenings are done at the same time to reduce the
force (QSP/QMP). Those at outlier stations/deployed can stay under the current
system and have questionnaires or VTCs set-up to accommodate the questioning
process. 1SGs would be the Sponsors to these aspiring individuals seeking to
make E7. E8 and above, I would leave it
as it is. What are your thoughts on the promotion system?
Promotion System. E5 and below promotions is fine the way it is. Promotion to E6,
the only change I would make is; make it a Brigade Level Board and Platoon
Sergeants are the Sponsors. Currently at
the BN and below level, there’s too much familiarity with the person, especially
if they are “board-babies”, they would be required to not only answer
questions, but in scenario driven questions based on the board topics (similar
to Audie Murphy boards). Then they would
provide their records file like for the E7 boards for review. This way they can
be head-on questioned about anything questionable in their files. E7 boards I
think should be done the same way, but at Installation level. Sure, the process may take a long time, but
the fix, give notice and break it down by alphabetical order or numbers
according to days to convene. This would force a “self-weed out” process,
whereas those know they may not be worthy of promotion at that time won’t
compete or even show-up. Screenings are done at the same time to reduce the
force (QSP/QMP). Those at outlier stations/deployed can stay under the current
system and have questionnaires or VTCs set-up to accommodate the questioning
process. 1SGs would be the Sponsors to these aspiring individuals seeking to
make E7. E8 and above, I would leave it
as it is. What are your thoughts on the promotion system?
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