Should the USS John C. Stennis and Carl Vinson be renamed?

2020-09-22T17:46:21-04:00

As the question of base renaming comes into play, should these two ships be renamed? Stennis signed the Southern Manifesto, did not support the Voting Rights Act of 1964 & 1968, Civil Rights Act, and MLK day . Vinson was also a staunch segregationist, and also signed the Manifesto. Your thoughts?

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Sep 22 at 2020 5:49 PM

2020-09-22T17:49:37-04:00

Enough is enough on all the stuff going on about racism and renaming ships and bases because of stuff that happened half a century plus ago.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 22 at 2020 5:52 PM

2020-09-22T17:52:08-04:00

CW3 Kevin Storm They Do say Renaming a Ship is Bad Luck. I Don't Have a Problem with it but I Never Served on a Bird Farm. My Son in Law Served on Carl Vinson I Might Ask Him Next Time I'm in Oregon.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2020 6:14 PM

2020-09-22T18:14:27-04:00

Well, shit. Why not rename ALL of the schools in the US that bear the name Washington. Hell, while we are at it, let's get rid of the $1.00 bill. When is enough going to be enough? If people dig down deep enough...I bet all of the prominent folks that founded the country and many prominent leaders and the like in history are gonna have skeletons in the closet that people are gonna get offended by.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2020 6:19 PM

2020-09-22T18:19:57-04:00

On another note, let's get rid of the name Franklin as he was a slave owner, basically an alcoholic and womanizer.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2020 6:25 PM

2020-09-22T18:25:42-04:00

Let us strike ALL of these folks from history for slavery

https://www.history.com/news/how-many-u-s-presidents-owned-slaves

How Many U.S. Presidents Owned Enslaved People?

The United States may have been founded on the idea that all men are created equal, but during the late 18th and early 19th centuries, slaveholding was common

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2020 6:54 PM

2020-09-22T18:54:22-04:00

Enough is enough, why don't we rename everything after franklin Madison Hamilton washington Jefferson columbus Lincoln Jackson grant why don't we just rewrite us history an instill communism why we're at it

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Sep 23 at 2020 11:32 AM

2020-09-23T11:32:20-04:00

CW3 Kevin Storm, both namesake Congressmen were Democrats, so any racism or ethical infractions are excursed because they were members of the "correct" political party.

A cursory look at his record in Congress shows that Rep Vinson was a staunch proponent of a stronger Navy throughout the early 20th Century. Despite his poor record on civil rights, I can see why he was selected as a namesake for a Navy ship.

An equally superficial look at the record of Senator Stennis' biography shows he was a dedicated segregationist throughout his legislative career. He brought lots of appropriations to his home state. He did push for additional funding for the Navy and for nuclear powered aircraft carriers. Personally, I would have named a ship after somebody else.

As to changing the name of the ships now, probably won't happen.

Response by SGT Herbert Bollum made Sep 23 at 2020 4:24 PM

2020-09-23T16:24:38-04:00

I say get over the past and move on.