Should Veterans feel bad about being awarded and receiving VA disability compensation for non-combat related injuries?

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Response by LTC Kevin B. made Dec 27 at 2017 1:11 PM

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Not at all. If the injury is service-connected, it's a legitimate disability.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Dec 27 at 2017 1:13 PM

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If it happened during any form of training or non-combat, IMHO no.

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Dec 27 at 2017 1:15 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member: I receive a 100% disability compensation from the VA.
One of my disabilities is a mental illness; the other, (also) a 100% service connected stress disorder.
I did Not see combat; however, I feel that I earned my disability pension the hard way.
I would not wish for Anyone to receive a disability compensation the hard way....the way I had to.
-Margaret

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Dec 27 at 2017 1:18 PM

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The VA compensates for disability (not pain).. The Service member does not get to choose when they are injured.. in the MP when a jack fails, or in combat when a truck hits an IED.
So no, it does not matter

Response by CPL Robert Ray made Dec 27 at 2017 1:22 PM

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I have noted an increasing amount of these kinds of questions since 9/11. Prior to that, at least in my time as an adult, there was no concern as long as the injury fit the definition of "Service-Connected." But since the War on Terror began, we have a whole generation of young servicemembers who don't remember the "Peacetime" Military. Many veterans who currently claim compensation are from that time of service known as The Cold War and have injuries accrued due to their service. Even the safest professions in the military carry a level of danger above that of a civilian career. People get hurt in "safe" environments. It only stands to reason that when you add guns, explosives and other military training to this that more (and more substantial) injuries will occur. Since the military does not have Workers Compensation, the VA's compensation is what's left. That's kinda what it's there for.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Dec 27 at 2017 1:27 PM

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No way should anyone feel badly about getting disability. First the award is for service related, not combat related, injuries and second the percent of service members who have actually served in combat is relatively small when compared to the overall total of service members served by the VA. I could certainly go along with some percentage increase in compensation if injury is combat related, but if someone receives injuries that qualify him/her for disability while serving our country they deserve every bit of it and should never feel ashamed because of it.

Response by TSgt David L. made Dec 27 at 2017 2:19 PM

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No they shouldn't. Nothing about the VA says only treat COMBAT injuries. If you are hurt in peace time or non-combat and wind up unrepairable, you deserve to be treated and/or compensated for the loss of ability. Vets have enough issues without having to justify why you should be treaded in a VA facility, albeit a possibly sub-standard treatment path.
Please tell me that this isn't an issue.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Dec 27 at 2017 2:23 PM

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No.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Dec 27 at 2017 3:01 PM

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Gee NO!, When I retired the VA gave me a whopping 10% total, for both shoulders, both knees and back after jumping 21 yrs. After my diagnosis of PTSD, Major Depression it has risen to a whopping 60%. Since I'm retired and get a military pension, it means absolutely NO EXTRA money. My VA compensation is deducted from my pension (tho it is tax free) . If you get hurt while on duty, and get out, the VA is suppose to help you, that's what is was set up for!

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2017 3:08 PM

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Not if they were legitimately injured while serving.

Response by CPL Dave Hoover made Dec 27 at 2017 3:28 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member Service Member + Service Related = HELL NO they shouldn't feel bad.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2017 3:39 PM

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No.

Response by SPC David Willis made Dec 27 at 2017 3:47 PM

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Unfortunately the ones that should feel bad don't, and the ones that shouldn't feel bad do.

Response by Maj Marty Hogan made Dec 27 at 2017 4:40 PM

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My answer is no- but in my former job I saw people that are collecting for things that are non-combat related injuries that are normal human conditions. I also have witnessed drunk idiots fall off a curb and ruin knee/shoulder and well.... For the most part most are legit- but there is a section of malingering out there and they always seem to be able to hit the beach, roof a house, party, etc....just can't work at a desk because it is to stressful

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Dec 27 at 2017 4:41 PM

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No! I left Vietnam with no injures, thankfully. I retired from the Army with no recorded disabilities.
However, 29 years later I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer, attributed to Agent Orange. I was awarded disability.
I don't feel bad about that award at all.

Response by COL Mikel J. Burroughs made Dec 27 at 2017 4:42 PM

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No they shouldn't feel bad. If they are injured while serving on Active Duty then they should be entitled to VA Disability Compensation. Period! That is just my two cents on the question. Great question by the way SGT Private RallyPoint Member

Response by SSG David Andrews made Dec 27 at 2017 4:55 PM

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No, if service related, but I would hope that those conditions are not as a result of their own careless acts or bad personal choices.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2017 5:05 PM

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We should all fee badly about being awarded VA disability compensation for non-service related disabilities, Service related regardless of combat vs non-combat makes no difference both should be paid out to a well deserving vet.

Response by Cpl Daniel Chumley made Dec 27 at 2017 5:13 PM

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Response by Sgt Randy Wilber made Dec 27 at 2017 5:36 PM

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If you work a civilian job and God Bless USA, sking and brake your back your insurance takes care of it, if you're in the service same thing happens VA is only choice you have. So no I don't think ppl should feel bad.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Dec 27 at 2017 6:25 PM

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No SGT Private RallyPoint Member. I certainly don't feel bad about any of my military service-connected disabilities, Most veterans I come in contact with at the VA have a mix of disabilities. Some have combat-related disabilities including kinetic and/or shrapnel injuries but most don't.
FYI for those who are just getting acquainted with VA Disability rating, at the ten year anniversary of your initial disability rating, VBA reviews your disability ratings and tends to downgrade them until your VA physicians weighs in - it may help to contact the patient advocate at your primary VAMC.
I was downgraded from 80% to 30% at the ten-year mark even though my disabilities were becoming more significant. My rating was bumped back up to 70% after I went through Lumber .
I am getting ready for cervical surgery - hopefully a laminectomy to clear the nerves and enable them to respond better - with a fusion of my C-7-C5 disks
Image: Cervical Laminectomy and Fusion
FYI MAJ Private RallyPoint Member TSgt David L. SPC Tom DeSmet CPL Dave Hoover Capt Private RallyPoint Member Sgt Randy Wilber SSG David Andrews MAJ Byron Oyler Sgt Diane E. MSgt Gloria Vance HA Private RallyPoint Member CMDCM John F. "Doc" Bradshaw COL Randall C. SGT Jim Arnold Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Lt Col Charlie Brown Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2017 6:29 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member No. If Veterans are submitting valid claims, they should not feel bad about it.

Response by SPC Tom DeSmet made Dec 27 at 2017 6:35 PM

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The answer for legitimate issues is no. And by legitimate I don't mean obvious. There are things like Agent Orange and now the "river fluke" that is just now coming to light. How about the Gulf War Syndrom. I imagine there are a long list of seemingly non-service related diseases that some day will come to light.
I currently have a failing thyroid. I keep having to increase the synthetic hormone, more and more recently. It is something that made me nearly unemployable when it first happened because all I could do was sleep. My wife threatened to leave me over it until I went to the Dr. Then, looking back in 1986 thru 1987 I found through the internet that where I was stationed in Germany the main plume came over from Chernobyl. We only heard that children should be kept inside. It turns out that many of the farmers that were told to throw out their milk and crops that were testing bad did not. The truth will likely only come to light after alot of us are gone. You may not be aware but if you lived in Germany from 1986 through mid 1990s for more than 6 months you can't donate blood due to this and exposure to Mad Cow disease.
Then there are the ones looking to take advantage of the system. I looked at a Facebook group where there are people asking for advice on how to continue going to college to get another degree or a master's so they can get a job more to their liking and pay rate. How can you police This? It literally made me ill to see this going on, and this is what I believe the root of the problem is! If you know there are people scamming the system, what do others think about me? I find it hard to believe these former military can find it so easy to forget what I got out of my time: Honor, Candor, and a sense of personal responsibility for my own actions.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2017 8:04 PM

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If you have been only a reservist or guardsmen and never deployed and claim PTSD, I have zero tolerance and not one ounce of respect for their theft of services from the VA. I have seen it too many times and it is disgusting.

Response by SSgt Jim Gilmore made Dec 27 at 2017 9:32 PM

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I had always been one of the "There's others who need the help more than me" people. Then I woke up one day and I was one of "those" people. NEVER be ashamed of your service. Part of that is getting compensation and care for injuries and illness suffered as a direct result of your military service. However, to answer your question in a word....NO!

Response by AN Christopher Crayne made Dec 27 at 2017 10:16 PM

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No. I can agree with the majority of this group, they’ve stated it very well for me. Thank you.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2017 6:43 AM

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Was the determination on the injury sustained LOD yes or no?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2017 2:32 PM

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No. If you get hurt, you get hurt.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Dec 29 at 2017 9:09 AM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member Absolutely Not! Why do you ask?

Over the course of a military career, especially as a ground troop, you can (and will) sustain a wide variety of physical (an possibly psychological) ailments. The military (Army) by nature is a very physically demanding career field, where you can easily sustain injuries that you carry for life - Road Marching, Airborne Operations, Night Operations, Air Assault Operations, Live Fires, and the list goes on. If it is in the line of duty, and service connected, it is within the realm of things the VA will consider. I was in the Army 33 years, and most of my service connected disabilities are not directly related to combat operations; only TBI, headaches, and an eye injury are. I spent about 6 years of that 33 deployed on various operations, which a fair amount of time, but I spent a lot more of that time in high end training, and PT... etc. More injuries happen in training, that in combat.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Dec 29 at 2017 11:02 AM

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I was recently at Mount Charleston out side Las Vegas. The plane hauling the first u2 spy plane to a base with a 2 mile runway on top of the mountains up there crashed into the mountain killing all. The family members were not told for 40 plus years what happened to there fathers brothers that died. Look it up. The secrecy act of this country is total designed to cover up the abuses of the government not to protect the public. It need s to be discontinued. We would be in the stars by now if they had shared all the UFO data as it was known, Hell my whole unit watch a group of UFOs in Korea one night.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Dec 29 at 2017 12:43 PM

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My expereince tell me that the VA is the enemy whose main goal is denial of cause. I was kicked out of a helicopter 18 or so feet up. causing life time pain and limitation with no benefits. Yet I walk in and get 10% for hearing loose in a couple months.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Dec 29 at 2017 12:54 PM

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The military excels in breaking people; and its doesn't have to happen on the battlefield.

Here's the basic test:

Are you--not necessarily you personally SGT--acting in good faith (being truthful & following the rules), while seeking compensation for issues related to your military service?

Has the VA determined your issues are services related?

If the answer to both is "Yes", then you are doing nothing wrong. The system isn't in place to value judge the "morality" behind one's medical issues.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Dec 29 at 2017 3:59 PM

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No. Despite all of us being warriors, not all of us go to war. But all of us train as warriors for the moment we get tagged in to replace someone else. If you get hurt, you get hurt. It's one thing to feel bad if you were gaming the system in your favor. It's a completely different story when you get hurt in the line of duty. Hell, I got injured training in hand to hand combat with a friendly opponent. Should I feel bad because my opponent was on the same team? My intent was to fight an enemy combatant. My duty was to prepare to fight an enemy combatant. My rotten luck was getting hurt by someone I was training with.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Dec 29 at 2017 5:09 PM

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Hell no, That truck that hit you didn't care if it was Afghanistan or Arkansas. Service connected is what it means. Connected to your service

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2017 7:14 PM

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If it'a service related, combat or not, there is no shame.....or rather there should be no shame

Response by SSgt David Marks made Dec 29 at 2017 10:04 PM

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No they should not. An example for instance, I server 13 yrs, 1 month. I was awarded a 10% disability, on an on duty service connected back injury. It took me almost 20 yrs to get it upped to 20%. I have days where I can't walk without a walker, but I still almost have to beg in order to see a medical specialist like a neurologist on my service connected injury. I've been trying to see one for almost 3 years. Now my son recently discharged after 14 yrs service received a 100% disability. The doctors seem to fall at his feet to try to get him what ever he needs. This is where the disparity is in the VA system. Every veteran should receive the exact care as other veterans, rating should not have anything to do with it. Me at 20% should receive the same medical care as someone with 100%. Why? Because we all served and completed our commitment and received an "Honorable" Discharge. It should never take over 3 years to get to see a neurologist.

Response by SSG Patrick Williams made Dec 29 at 2017 11:35 PM

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Six months after basic training I was on crutches. Knee's swelling and running became a job. No one believed me until I got a MRI. I ran on these knee's for ten years until I just couldn't it anymore. I do not feel bad.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Dec 30 at 2017 2:30 AM

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Why, you're a veteran and entitled to the benefits. No where does it state you must go to combat.

Response by LTC John Griscom made Dec 30 at 2017 1:02 PM

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There are service-connected disabilities not related to combat. Don't know why anyone should feel badly about getting the compensation allowed by law. I am drawing compensation based on exposure to Agent Orange.

Response by SSgt Thomas Hirschey made Dec 30 at 2017 4:02 PM

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I served as a combat engineer for 20 years, I feel no shame for collecting VA benefits since I hurt my back and blew out my knees doing hard labor for the Marines, but I didn’t get hurt while in combat. It’s not just for combat related injuries. You need to understand it’s not called combat benefits.

Response by GySgt Melissa Gravila made Dec 31 at 2017 8:14 AM

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Not at all, we as service members do not have the choice as to where we serve. We can fill out a dream sheet, if it coincides with the current need-fine if not the dream sheet goes in the 86 file. The point is, you proudly and honorably served, end of discussion.
S/F

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Dec 31 at 2017 3:22 PM

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So if PVT Snuffy is in a track, and it overturns and he breaks his neck in Fort Lost in the middle of Nowhere training area, he doesn't deserve healthcare for this? Kind of a raw deal don't you think. If 2LT Smith is cripple from jumping off the tower at Fort Benning during Airborne Training, and is paralyzed for life, because it wasn't in the face of armed combatants they don't deserve Healthcare and VA Benefits? The guys on a sub who are exposed to high levels of radiation through no fault of their own don't deserve healthcare? Or the Grunt who is road marched with that excessive load every Friday for "training" has his discs go south for life doesn't deserve care?

Response by MAJ James Woods made Jan 3 at 2018 1:47 PM

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Service connected disabilities both combat and non-combat related should never be frowned upon by a veteran if it truly limits his/her normal abilities. I do however growl at those veterans that receive it and display it the DV label on their vehicle and yet nothing is do not appear to be physically limited in anyway. It disgusted me to see sleep apnea diagnosis with huge compensation numbers but a bad knee or back given such little in return. A Veteran shouldn't feel bad but they in return would hopefully not take advantage with bogus claims.

Response by SPC Scott Domogalla made Jan 12 at 2018 9:53 AM

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I myself was in during the Cold War. Went a few places, but that was to basically be fodder for Regan to get involved in that area. I am VA disabled. They do not know what caused my issues. Best guess is radiation, second is maybe has to do with being in the Middle East. We have been taught to suck it up, so no matter what, we do feel guilty, whether we should or not. Serving your country should be enough for VA help. The most difficult thing for me, which my pain is at lest to me is severe, is seeing the loss of limbs, dents in the head from ieds, etcetera; and me getting help. We are men and women who served in defense of our country, I do not think that VA services should matter. But yet when you see the after math of war, well it brings you to tears.

Response by SFC Dennis Yancy made Jan 14 at 2018 10:28 AM

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I am a VSO in my county and i hear this alot from all spectrum of veteran. Keep telling them you got a honorable 214 you got benefits.

Response by SrA Nicole Dedick made Jan 16 at 2018 3:17 AM

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I receive a service connection for PTSD. I get mocked & ridiculed by fellow veterans, I get confused civilians that can’t figure out how or why I even have PTSD if I never served in combat. It’s not my place to explain myself, nobody knows what I went thru in my career, however brief it was. I do feel guilty, because of the way people make me feel, like I have no right collecting ANY kind of compensation for what I struggle with every single day of my life. Sometimes that compensation is my only saving grace because it’s so hard to stay with any particular job for any length of time because it’s hard for me to deal with people or be in public places more than I care to be. I can’t medicate to help ease the symptoms of my condition because every medication tried makes me sicker than a dog. All the years in the VA system in therapy hasn’t done anything to help either. You get to feel so lost in the world & people making you feel worse about yourself, that you’re less of a person for “supposedly” having PTSD, doesn’t help either. People are so quick to judge when they don’t know you or your story so yeah, I feel guilt, when I shouldn’t be put in a position to feel guilty for something I had no control over.

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 16 at 2018 12:09 PM

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ALL veterans deserve to have free healthcare for themselves and their family for the rest of their lives

Response by SSG Luis Rivera made Jan 18 at 2018 5:43 PM

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For years I felt that way. I didn’t use any of my benefits feeling that those coming from the wars needed it more than me. That is until a fellow veteran working with VA convince me to go to the VA hospital after noticing some symptoms. Now I think that if you are a veteran and were discharged under honorable conditions it is there for you.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2018 6:22 PM

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No they should not feel guilty.

Response by Sgt Tee Organ made Jan 19 at 2018 12:48 PM

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Non combat related injuries? You mean like a Sailor that was working on a ship and falls four decks down a trunk space and slams her head on a scuttle handle, cracks her skull open and now she's having to learn how to spell her name all over again? Or do you mean that Second Class Petty officer that had to give her first aid and clean up the blood after? How about That 5 ton operator that at CAX and has to transport gear to the EAF and loses steering and slams into a building hard enough to practically impale himself on the steering wheel, crushing his sternum, breaking several ribs, and puncturing his lung? Yeah their injuries don't warrant a disability rating because they need to be shot at first.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2018 1:02 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member absolutely not. I know I got injured during non-combat events such as airborne operations. Why feel bad about doing your job?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2018 2:35 PM

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Veterans should not feel badly about claiming ANY VA compensation for ANY disabilities incurred in the line of duty.

Response by Stacey Harris made Jan 19 at 2018 3:30 PM

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Absolutely Not
The fact that your had enough courage to sign up for boot camp is enough.
I work with disabled vets
Your disiblity could be a result of our Nation's Healthcare
9-11
Stands for 911
We got your health and education Occupied
911 9-11
See
ISIS autism Occupational Therapy
Is nothing more than chemical domestic terror
VA Psyc Wards are being shut down or exposed for using very young PTSD combat soldiers in fear conditioning drug research.
If the VA has you on a pill that comes with a black box warning
"May causes fear or suicide"
Please take a pic of your military medication along with the VA doctors name and email if you got it
Our Soldiers sometimes need our help
I believe our children and Soldiers need all our tension right now Obama had banned the use of one of the major fear conditioning pills that I am fighting like hell to get banned again the increase in suicide since 9/11 in veterans and young combat soldiers is not due to PTSD all our attention right now Obama headband the use of one of the major for conditioning pills that I am fighting like hell to get banned again the increase in suicide since 9:11 in veterans and young combat soldiers is not due to PTSD its from having horrible horrible PTSD and going to a medical community for help and then having that medical community drug you with a pill that treat your body and do thinking you're scared or depressed by simply blocking the production of certain proteins in your blood it's not even that hard like from a molecular pharmacology view it's not hard to do so keep an eye out on VA Hospital suicide the medically abused soldiers are now shooting themselves in the actual parking lots of the VA hospital where they were drugged and they're trying to say I can't speak for myself right now please speak for me

Response by MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan made Jan 19 at 2018 6:34 PM

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Absolutely not...wherever you are completing the mission assigned to you is considered vital, so whether you have tinnitus from being around loud noises such as a flight line, had a pallet fall on you in a supply hanger or depot, or developed high blood pressure from the day-to-day stress of protecting our great country you have done your duty. If doing your duty, again, no matter what it was, resulted in compensation then it is definitely deserved.

Response by MAJ Albert McCaig made Jan 19 at 2018 10:12 PM

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Definitely not! Combat training is intense, physically demanding, and dangerous. Injuries do happen, although we do what we can to prevent them. If you go through a VA physical or your exit physical and are found to have rated disabilities, you deserve to be recognized for them. The money is simply the appreciation our country gives to those who have suffered. I personally believe combat injuries should receive a higher rating than non-combat, but that’s just my opinion.

Response by SSG John Eroh made Jan 20 at 2018 5:10 PM

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The majority of my VA disability is related to Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam. I ran inter-base communications sites so I wasn't running around in the boonies, but was exposed by breathing AO laden dust used around the sites for a clear view. The rest was from damage done to my knees & shoulders from PT and my duties. Just before I retired they figured out that running in combat boots was bad for your knees and back too. My duties at the sites included lifting heavy power supplies which were in the bottom of the racks and working with my arms mid body & higher. I was told by one orthopedic doctor that I would still have had my joint problems but the point I was at then would have been 20-30 years down the road if I hadn't been in the service. That was about 12 years in.

So, no I don't feel badly about receiving VA Disability Pay for my non-combat related disability because they were incurred because of or aggravated more by my service over what they would have been. The same way I don't feel bad about getting Military Discounts because I earned them.

Response by SGT Chester Beedle made Jan 21 at 2018 1:38 PM

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It's just like any other job provided medical disability. If the military caused you damage, they should fix you or compensate you for the permanent disability or disfigurement it caused or made worse. Whether it was getting blown up by an IED, or a steel plate in the head because the transmission went out on the M113 causing it to lose steering and braking so you were thrwon from it when it crashed into a concrete wall (this happened to someone I know in Baghdad, but it would just as easily have been Germany or stateside).

Response by Sgt Charles Malcom made Jan 21 at 2018 4:10 PM

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I am going to leave this one alone, Gentlemen. I draw VA compensation for a back injury in 1963. For over 40 years I drew 30%, not much of a check back in the days. Four years ago I got boosted to 60% because of suicide attempts.
Last Sunday I tripped and fell and broke my neck in two places. I know that there is provision for non-active duty injury, but at my age I doubt that I will bother to file. To all you that have been injured on active duty, never stop trying for that increase - you deserve everything they award you. You served your country honorably and you were denied serving to retirement, and I am sure at least half of you would have gone for 20+

Response by PO3 Phyllis Maynard made Jan 24 at 2018 2:34 AM

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Absolutely not! As a former DAV Service Officer, I know first-hand that if an individual does not meet the guidelines for service-connected appeal or not there will be no award. If a veteran is found eligible and awarded, believe it the guidelines for award we're met. However, sadly, in the current environment (meaning the last 15 years or so) budget concerns, false claims, an oversaturated system etc., have slown down the process for positive outcomes.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 24 at 2018 11:38 AM

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Not at all. I served 31 years in the Infantry both enlisted and officer. The vast majority of my physical issues were caused in the training necessary to prepare for combat. Additionally, they get worse with time.

LTC (Ret) Todd Coulson

Response by SFC William Farrell made Jan 25 at 2018 12:25 AM

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A resounding NO SGT Private RallyPoint Member. They served and paid a price for their service. Remember the 1% who serve and out of that one percent how many of them receive disability?

Response by SSG Dale London made Jan 25 at 2018 1:07 AM

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In a word: No.

Response by SSgt David Marks made Jan 25 at 2018 1:25 AM

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No. I receive a monthly VA Service Connected Disability check. My disability is a back injury while doing security detail on the flightline at the then Torrejon AB, Spain. The only thing I have a problem with is the VA only gave me a 10% disability, 15 yrs later I finally got it up to 20%. I have to use a walker now all attributed to my back injury and all they give me is 20%? My son was recently discharged medically, he hasn't lost any limbs, he has to deal with back pain like me, the VA gave him 100% disability. I get $262.oo a month, he gets a little over 4000.oo a month. The system is unfair, because I only have 20%, I have to jump through hoops in order to see a specialist. For instance I'm still trying to get an appointment with Neurosurgery, still hasn't happened. My son doesn't have to get a referral to see a specialist, he just goes to the section and boom he's got the appt. He gets travel pay for every time he goes to the VA, I only bet it when I'm seen for my service connected injury. Anyway you should NOT be ashamed of receiving a VA check. Good luck.

Response by Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. made Jan 25 at 2018 11:35 PM

2018-01-25T23:35:20-05:00

No. Sometimes the military or VA can't determine the complications related to the on going situation. I had two serious serious ceasures while in the military. Fortuantely I recovered with no residual known affects. After retiring "eons ago," the VA could not determine the direct cause although the history was related to my time on active duty. It was suspected that the cause was chemicals or fuels stored while I worked in Base Supply or years later related to chemicals or "processes" associated with manufacturing of aricraft and munitions that I had oversignt of in Europe. Regardless, after retiring, local doctors stopped accepting military retirees. I visited the VA with an issue and they were concerned that I may need future access to the VA. They could not determine the causes for past ceasures but since I had one of my fingers cut off (and sewed back on with residual damage) they ganted me 10% disability rating so I would have access to the VA. The government was not paying, I am paying for my own disability via my retirement pay - it comes out of my retired pay and transferred to the VA and then paid back to me. Fortuanately, a couple years later, Congress passed a law that MDs & Hospitals accepting retired seniors on Scocial Security had to also accept retired military and their families who were on Tricare.

Response by PO1 Don Mac Intyre made Jan 26 at 2018 6:16 PM

2018-01-26T18:16:19-05:00

As the VA has no problem denying disability, why would a vet feel bad about fighting for years to get their do?

Response by SSG Robert Zierler made Jan 26 at 2018 8:13 PM

2018-01-26T20:13:37-05:00

Nope, I broke my back in a helicopter incident while training, why should you feel bad.

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Jan 28 at 2018 11:45 PM

2018-01-28T23:45:28-05:00

A service related disability is a service related disability, is a service related disability. A loss of hearing is just as real from engines or high pressure air as from an explosion, and likewise for any other injury.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Jan 30 at 2018 11:05 AM

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Heck no. VA disability is for any disability that is brought about as a result of time in service. It has nothing to do with whether the member was in combat, although that is where most disability likely stems from.

My own father received disability due to his exposure to agent orange in Vietnam and this was near life saving as it meant a better quality of care and living. No Veteran, no service member should ever feel badly about applying for an honestly earned disability.

Response by SSG Joseph Branham made Jan 31 at 2018 12:49 AM

2018-01-31T00:49:02-05:00

No. As stated it is for SERVICE CONNECTED problems regardless of being in combat or not. Most of mine are related to Vietnam/Agent Orange but several are not combat related.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2018 7:16 PM

2018-02-01T19:16:12-05:00

No. Getting injured and losing functioning is bad enough without feeling like you do not deserve compensation. I encourage those who feel bad to answer this question: Would you have been injured if you didn't join the military? If the answer is clearly 'Yes, this would have happened to me no matter what profession I would have entered' then maybe you don't deserve compensation. The system doesn't allow us to decide this for ourselves. I think good soldiers struggle with transitioning into a role where they are limited as to what they can do. They would prefer to fight on, push through it and get over it. I'm glad they don't have to decide for themselves if they are deserving of compensation for service connected injuries.

Response by CW4 Robert Goldsmith made Feb 4 at 2018 5:00 PM

2018-02-04T17:00:20-05:00

No disrespect to any "five-jump chumps" who never served in Airborne units, but I just want to make this point. Jumping from an airplane is inherently dangerous and a good landing hurts and damages the body. Jump school wasn't combat. Going to the range to qualify with a weapon is inherent to military service and the level of noise exposure varies by MOS. Any service-connected disability is just that. It's related to an event in service. There is also something known as Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) for disabilities incurred in combat. To suggest that a combat-related injury matters more than a chronic illness to Veterans that drank contaminated water at Camp Lejeune or was a volunteer for chemical and biological testing among other non-combat related things, or that a disabled Veteran should feel bad about why or how they became disabled is asinine.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 5 at 2018 11:42 AM

2018-02-05T11:42:11-05:00

Absolutely not. I have seen freak accidents happen in day to day ops, training excercises, field problems, even motor stables. Everything we do is in preparation for combat. Should a professional athletes not get compensated because he was injured in practice or training camp? Either way the soldier is serving regardless of what mission his/her units oporder conveys. If it's in your military medical records, it is service connected. Period

Response by CPO Bernie Penkin made Feb 5 at 2018 12:32 PM

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I had an American Legion rep explain the VA disability to me. He said that when we went in, we were strong and healthy. Part of the government’s promise was to restore us to society in the same health we were in when our time of service was up. Sadly, the needs of the service took its toll on us and we have been damaged. No one should feel bad that they have a disability rating from the VA. My years of sea duty would have been just as rough had it been in war or peace.

I think what I object to is the concurrent receipt issue of lowering retirement pay on non combat related injuries below a 50% rating. There should be no distinction.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2018 8:27 PM

2018-02-07T20:27:35-05:00

In short, Hell no! You served, you were injured while serving so you deserve whatever compensation you receive.

Response by Scott Stephenson made Feb 8 at 2018 2:00 PM

2018-02-08T14:00:16-05:00

Absolutely not! Anyone who has Honorably Served should not "Feel guilty" for receiving benefits they deserve or need.

Response by MSG Frederick Otero made Feb 8 at 2018 4:09 PM

2018-02-08T16:09:41-05:00

NO. Nuff said.

Response by MSG Charles Turner made Feb 8 at 2018 4:44 PM

2018-02-08T16:44:04-05:00

Veterans should NOT Feel BAD about being AWARDED ANY VA Disability Rating! Unless the Injury was inflicted while NOT IN THE LINE OF DUTY! Come On, the Military is a 24 hour a day, 365 Day a Year Obligation. So if the Veteran was "IN THE LINE OF DUTY" and Injury is an INJURY. Not worth a Question is my opinon.

Response by PO2 Jeffrey S. made Feb 10 at 2018 6:34 AM

2018-02-10T06:34:44-05:00

Hell no! Some of us never saw combat or served during peacetime and we, as veterans, get hurt on the job and deserve whatever the VA has available to us!

Response by PO2 Patrick Dwyer made Feb 10 at 2018 2:39 PM

2018-02-10T14:39:08-05:00

No. Can always donate it to Fisher House, DAV,etc.

Response by CWO4 Paul Thunberg made Feb 20 at 2018 6:49 PM

2018-02-20T18:49:11-05:00

Well...I think it depends. I know people that have retired from active duty to be hired doing the exact same job as civilian employees. Some have disabilitiy ratings of 60% and more. Sleep apnea and stuff like that. I will say that the military did promise life long medical care through the va and Tricare. So it makes sense to document all of your problems when retiring and if that rates you disability than good for you.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Feb 20 at 2018 7:58 PM

2018-02-20T19:58:14-05:00

If you were injured doing your mission whether in combat or not, there is no reason to feel badly. Not all of us have been in the combat zone but many of us have supported the efforts at home station or deployed enroute.

Response by LCDR Gordon Brown made Feb 21 at 2018 2:20 PM

2018-02-21T14:20:02-05:00

I'm curious about what motivated you to ask the question.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2018 7:05 PM

2018-02-21T19:05:44-05:00

Disability Compensation should never be felt bad about, justified and deserved would help the individual.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2018 12:05 PM

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Not at all. As long as the injuries were determined to be part of your duties then you have the right to be compensated. I was a REMF and I managed to blow my ankle out and need surgery and PT to try and fix it. Wound up with a P3 for my troubles but the MMRB kept me in due to my MOS. I will give up my spot in line to ANY Veteran or Active member with a combat related injury if we are waiting for service. However I do not feel bad at all for the small percentage I get.

Response by SSG Keith Amacher made Feb 22 at 2018 1:27 PM

2018-02-22T13:27:23-05:00

I just posted about us and getting treatment for our service. And absolutely no guilt on getting disability brother. There are more civilians with disability then us so think about that.

Response by SGT Cassandra House made Feb 22 at 2018 5:04 PM

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Response by PO3 Garry Reed made Feb 24 at 2018 8:47 AM

2018-02-24T08:47:57-05:00

I struggled with this for years. I was medically discharged from service. I was so ashamed of it. I was a Submariner served 6 years. Held a Top Secret Crypto Clearance. Passed every Psyc Evaluation there is. Spent time on 2 Submarines. During that time they changed the rating system. I was a Technician they loaded or rate full of button pushers. The Command climate at my second boat was very hostile. Had an NCO that would keep us around all day long in port. Until it was about time for everyone to leave. Then he would have us start field daying. So CO. XO. saw we where still there cleaning after hours sucking up. Then when cleaning was done I would be approached and told. Some gear needed to be fixed. As I was the only technician no one else could fix it. This is after sitting around all day with nothing to do. Never left the boat in port before 2000. I had excellent evals until my last one. For some reason one day I hit my breaking point and Snapped. I was Discharged within a week. Medically stating a Personality Disorder. I struggled for years never filed a claim. Until my Father a Retired Air Force Chief Master Sgt. Explained that I didn't need to feel ashamed. I was not that way when I went in. A mental injury is no different from a Physical one. I Finally applied 4 years of fighting nothing. Paper work keeps getting lost. Refilled twice after they lost my paper work both times. Got to the point were the fight is just more damaging. Wish I wouldn't have felt so ashamed when I was Discharged and filed. Maybe one day I will actually get paper work through that isn't lost.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2018 8:04 PM

2018-02-25T20:04:14-05:00

It depends upon the disability and the Veterans.

Response by LTC Jeff Shearer made Mar 4 at 2018 8:46 AM

2018-03-04T08:46:03-05:00

nope! David people dont get it. Even during "peace time" I have no idea how many SF dudes I have seen injured in non combat related injuries. We have got to take care of our people

Response by LTC Jeff Shearer made Mar 4 at 2018 8:50 AM

2018-03-04T08:50:20-05:00

...Okay David I am going to kick the hornets nest this AM but here we go. We will not think twice about giving all the help in the world to someone who has never done anything for America, even worse are illegally here and are a criminal to top it off. I am not saying to not help them but they are way down the priority list, way down the list. At the top of the list are the people who raised their right hand and took an oath. I could go on and on but I think I would only make myself angry so I better stop for now.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2018 10:33 AM

2018-03-04T10:33:49-05:00

If it was in the line of duty with no misconduct, absolutely not.

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Mar 4 at 2018 11:25 PM

2018-03-04T23:25:26-05:00

Maybe they feel badly but they are happy to take the money.

Response by FN William Putegnat made Mar 8 at 2018 10:42 PM

2018-03-08T22:42:28-05:00

I am combat Nam Vet. Guys i service with r 100%. When apply get Nada. Amazing i see people never in combat r 100%. Luck of the draw. My Poker game is all bad luck. Well still get little work and with social security i make. If u went to Nam we r to old, forget it. Its fucking joke that claim shit

Response by Cpl Karl Stine made Mar 11 at 2018 9:32 PM

2018-03-11T21:32:23-04:00

Too many people abuse this...I suspect that the only ones who feel badly about taking disability are the ones who actually deserve it!

Response by MSgt Jarred Jackson made Mar 19 at 2018 9:54 PM

2018-03-19T21:54:45-04:00

Are disabled veterans (with injuries that are non-combat related) that received a Line-of-Duty being harassed? Are we considering service members that are hurt in training, or members that are injured during activities like intramural softball practice? Every situation is different and there is a difference between accidental and reckless behavior.

Response by Sgt Ray Shackelford made Mar 20 at 2018 6:20 AM

2018-03-20T06:20:36-04:00

Absolutely, not, the ability to claim compensation for service related injury is part of the package. This is just another small way of compensating an individual for their sacrifice in serving their country.

Response by CH (1LT) Dwight Dowson made Mar 20 at 2018 8:07 AM

2018-03-20T08:07:50-04:00

Some injuries are unavoidable and deter from a productive service to Family after the battle...

Response by SP5 Ward Posey made Mar 20 at 2018 9:29 AM

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Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2018 12:32 AM

2018-03-21T00:32:13-04:00

No, why? If I’m injured badly jumping out of an airplane why wouldn’t I have earned that? It’s like I wasn’t going to jump out of an airplane while working at Little Caesar’s.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2018 1:03 PM

2018-03-23T13:03:10-04:00

It wasn’t the Taliban that was driving the truck that crushed my knees when an inattentive driver pinned me to a wall. Hand I not been in the military would it not have happened? Maybe, but I’m not afforded the same civil options any other person is allowed. Just because you don’t see combat doesn’t mean you don’t share some of the same types of scars.

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Mar 25 at 2018 8:53 PM

2018-03-25T20:53:20-04:00

Not if the injuries come from there service. Look at all the Infantryman that there knee's and back's are screwd up from just doing there everyday jobs or the Medic Backs That are messed up because they carry combat load pulse the AID bag's

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Mar 25 at 2018 8:56 PM

2018-03-25T20:56:36-04:00

That's a stupid question and perhaps it's not the OP's question. Maybe he is asking because some asshole harassed him or someone else. I've been deployed three times but that doesn't mean squat. Take a look at military disability or VA disability. Where is it written those two things are for combat zone related injuries. Sure, the combat zone related ones are tax free and there are others who above the rating system altogether.

Response by SGT Ed Alemany made Apr 2 at 2018 11:24 AM

2018-04-02T11:24:59-04:00

As a former DAV service officer, I've seen combat veterans who are have been separated, awarded and receive VA SC disability for a non-combat related malady although he had combat-related injuries. The subject veteran, a Vietnam vet, had multiple GSW and shrapnel wounds and later in his career suffered a heart attack and was subsequently PEB'd and VA awarded service connection for the heart condition, in addition to the combat-related conditions.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2018 3:42 PM

2018-04-02T15:42:07-04:00

Not unless you lied on your form to get benefits your not entitled. I recommend giving them your whole medical record and working from there.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2018 6:56 PM

2018-04-02T18:56:32-04:00

No way. Guy gets back broken while jumping out of an airplane you don’t say well it wasn’t in combat so no benefits. Or guy is conducting a night attack at fort Bragg, falls down an embankment and breaks his back and no benefits? Or even sucks up oil well fire smoke and is diagnosed with bladder cancer eight years later at the age of 30 and you say to bad so sad you should have been shot instead? where would the line be drawn?

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2018 6:31 AM

2018-04-07T06:31:29-04:00

II was a Volunteer Service officer here at my local VA a good many of the vets working are getting 100% service connected and get both if they retire from the VA

Response by LCpl James Robertson made Apr 9 at 2018 6:42 PM

2018-04-09T18:42:37-04:00

No, believe me permanent disabilities don't change as you age remember you will only get worst, there are only certain employee's will hire the disabled, they may not tell you to your face, but you will get passed over for a job opportunity ever time.

Response by MSgt Scott Howard made Apr 9 at 2018 8:43 PM

2018-04-09T20:43:58-04:00

Yes. I have known several vets over the years getting disability for stupid things they did, (for example, getting drunk and breaking a wrist) and they got 30%. That's bullshit as far as I'm concerned. If you have a "job related" (not necessarily combat because we all weren't in combat billets), you should qualify for disability. But not because you got hurt or developed a disease while you happened to be in the military.

Response by PO1 Don Rowan made Apr 11 at 2018 11:58 AM

2018-04-11T11:58:37-04:00

Absolutely not. Congress should be the ones who should feel guilty for sitting on their posteriors doing little for the taxpayers while collecting exorbitant benefits and salaries for working 1/3 of a year.

Response by Cpl Ropell Henderson made Apr 15 at 2018 1:31 AM

2018-04-15T01:31:45-04:00

No!!!!

Response by PO1 Michael Withrow made Apr 16 at 2018 9:43 AM

2018-04-16T09:43:06-04:00

at one time I felt bad about it. but as i saw more and more of what i lost due to my injuries, my viewpoint changed. now i'm stuck at 40% disability but walk with a cain, and little use of my hands (both wrists were broken). all from service connected injuries. Take what you can when you can. eventually the cost to you catches up to anything the VA offers you. don't feel guilty. you'll still be paying long after your service ends.

Response by PO2 Paul Pender made Apr 17 at 2018 10:28 AM

2018-04-17T10:28:07-04:00

Not at all. All of the chemicals I was exposed to as an Aircraft mechanic for my first 6 years are now banned and cause short-term memory losses and other neurological issues so I don't feel bad.

Response by MSG Biran Colwell made Apr 17 at 2018 4:47 PM

2018-04-17T16:47:52-04:00

NO, they should not feel bad. The military can be and at times a hard life but a good life. Not sure as to why such a question would come up. Never be ashamed because you are getting disability. We give our all to protect this great land and I would do it all over again. I agree with Lt. Col. Christensen and thank all who have served there Country.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2018 12:42 PM

2018-04-21T12:42:23-04:00

Not at all

Response by SGT Aric Lier made Apr 21 at 2018 4:01 PM

2018-04-21T16:01:59-04:00

my ex father in law would not goto VA.... he had a steel plate in his head from vietnam.....later in life he lost a leg and now is willing to go..... pride is a terrible thing

Response by Sgt James Fairman made Apr 24 at 2018 11:13 PM

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Response by SPC Robin Price-Dirks made Apr 24 at 2018 11:34 PM

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I have people tell me I don't deserve my compensation for my service related injuries because I served during peace time. I am 80% and trying to up my percentage so my kids can go to college, and my own daughter asks me why am I doing it? Why do I want more money? I am a cold war vet. I was in the FRG when they tried to blow up Gen Haig, and lets not forget the wall was still up. Oh and where was I when Bader-Meinhof was operational? I am not suicidal or totally incompetent but, I only go to take my daughter to school and get groceries. No one comes to visit me, no one is helping me get my dog trained. The VFW won't let me join, I didn't serve in wartime! I stay away from people because strange stuff falls out of my mouth when I do. Words out of sequence, sometimes I get lost in places I've been a hundred times. I am alone and even my kids don't seem to care....Yes I was a "PEACE TIME" soldier........it ruined my life and as Dangerfield says "I get no respect" Sorry I've just had it up to here and I can't be sugar sweet all the time

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Apr 25 at 2018 12:29 AM

2018-04-25T00:29:10-04:00

They may feel bad but they are happy to cash the checks!

Response by Sgt Jon Mcvay made Apr 25 at 2018 6:45 AM

2018-04-25T06:45:44-04:00

At first I did and at times I still do feel bad about receiving disability. Even though my injury happened at peace time ( somewhat), it still happened while serving. The worst part for me is when no one believed that I had an injury and the harassment that everyone gave me. That didn't stop till I got and MRI done. I was real happy when the Dr. called and told the FstGgt how extensive my injury was. And that my service time would be coming to an end. The battalion still took me on a deployment, and shit flew when I fell out of a run. I followed orders not wanting a court marshal, and when the Battalion Dr. was asked why I was there he replied because you LCol wanted him here. Well that was a small part of the story. Either way it's hard to be broken without ever being able to be whole again. I would not change the part of serving, it was and is still a part of me that I can't let go of. Age don't define a man, his actions does. Joining the Marines, defined me !

Response by LTC Francis Irwin made Apr 27 at 2018 2:19 AM

2018-04-27T02:19:38-04:00

Heck no. Please keep in mind that VA disability is like disability for any job. The service member is compensated for injuries occurring during their time of service. Also, combat related injuries are covered in a privileged way: https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crsc.html You get tax free CRSC for combat disability.

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Response by SPC Sean O'Sullivan made Apr 27 at 2018 12:05 PM

2018-04-27T12:05:27-04:00

HELL no. I got out in 1994, I had multiple zero ratings at that time. None of my injuries were combat related, but they were service related. Over the years, all of those service connected issues have gotten worse, as well as caused other issues. I'd trade by disability rating in a heart beat to be 100% healthy again, but that will never happen. The system was set up to help all veterans, not just those who served in combat.

Response by LTC Ronald Stephens made May 6 at 2018 4:40 PM

2018-05-06T16:40:10-04:00

No veteran should feel bad about drawing compensation for a service connected disability whether it was combat related or not. It bothers me to think that a non-combat debilitating injury that results in receipt of VA compensation for the veteran would stigmatize him or her. Bothers me, Hell, it flat pisses me off to think that may have happened to someone. Anyone of you out there disagree?

Response by SFC Aubrey Campbell made May 8 at 2018 3:50 PM

2018-05-08T15:50:29-04:00

Today's world has come full circle. Forgotten is the service, sacrifice, dedication, good times, bad times of all who endured military service. I retired 22 years ago, but I hope all of the soldiers I served with get taken care of no matter what it cost this country.

Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made May 9 at 2018 3:55 AM

2018-05-09T03:55:44-04:00

why should they feel bad about service connected disabilities that were not incurred in combat? why should a former infantryman feel bad for getting compensation due his job tearing the cartilage in his knees and shoulders from 15+ years of rucking, jumping, running, and all the other things required to do his job? or the arthritis that results from a lot of this? no - they should not feel "bad" for receiving compensation for injuries and disabilities incurred while serving that are not "combat related" - Combat related disabilities have a completely separate compensation table.

Response by SGT George Duncan made May 10 at 2018 3:22 PM

2018-05-10T15:22:06-04:00

they shouldn't war is a dangerous job

Response by SSG Paul Carrier made May 13 at 2018 10:23 PM

2018-05-13T22:23:55-04:00

No, because I'm not a snowflake

Response by PO1 Gerald Sutton made May 16 at 2018 11:04 AM

2018-05-16T11:04:42-04:00

Nope

Response by SGT Mark Daughenbaugh made May 17 at 2018 8:39 PM

2018-05-17T20:39:57-04:00

Not at all, I have 2 service connected disabilities - neither were combat related and neither disqualifies me from working (okay, I did have to leave one career I really enjoyed due to treatments I received) I am 0% rated, I am grateful for the opportunities I got in the service and the outstanding care I have received from the VA

Response by SGT Tim Tobin made May 19 at 2018 5:53 PM

2018-05-19T17:53:06-04:00

This is not as easy a question is it appears on the surface. In a lot of circles of veterans I am not regarded as a full veteran because I was not in combat. So I inevtibally feel I don't deserve anything close to what a combat veteran receives. As a result my hearing is declining almost daily because of all the high noise evironments I was exposed to.

Response by SFC Darrell Adams made May 26 at 2018 5:40 PM

2018-05-26T17:40:16-04:00

No. We don't control world events. But we trained as if we were going to combat and we got injured during that training.
The majority of us served in "peace time". I only deployed twice in my 20 year career to a "real" world deployment. Those were classified as "Peace Keeping" missions.
One does not realize the toll their body takes over a 20 year career. We earned those benefits and I use them.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made May 26 at 2018 7:21 PM

2018-05-26T19:21:26-04:00

In answer to your question - There is nothing for which to be ashamed.
Here's why -
It is estimated 42 million former military, Department of Defense Civilian, Intelligence, Foreign Service, and United States employees faithfully performed their Cold War duties.
These are estimates of Cold War Casualties in addition to the Korean & Vietnam Wars: 400,000+ suffered permanent bodily damage or death in non-combat related incidents and 59% died as a result of those injuries either immediately or in the final event their deaths were caused by those incidents.
A Department of Defense investigation reports 15,500+ United States Army personnel died of gunshot wounds, fragmentation & rocket propelled grenades, car & truck bomb blasts and numerous hostile fire incidents.
For example:
1. Of 15 incidents between 1975 and 1991 involving U.S. Military Aircraft during deployments directly related to the Cold War; 364 American aircraft (fixed and rotary) were lost, 187 personnel recovered alive, 36 recovered dead, 123 pilots, crew and mission-involve personnel missing.
2. In incidents in Western Europe, North Africa and the Middle East there are a reported 600+ US military service men and women along with a known 269 civilians with clearances are listed as missing during classified operations against the old Soviet Union. The U.S. Government has not revealed their fates to their next of kin.
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The following information is Copyrighted 2002 by The Associated Press. "COLD WAR between 2, September 1945 - 21 August 1991 Participants: Classified: POWs: Classified: MIAs: 343: Deaths In Service Involving Direct Engagement w/Hostile Forces: Classified: Deaths In Service: 407,316 excepting Korea and Southeast Asia.
Its known that 124 U.S. soldiers are listed missing in action from 10 separate Cold War Covert Operations during the Cold War."
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Since the end of the Cold War research into Soviet Bloc national records has recorded many of the missing 600+ and the 269 civilians that were unaccounted ended up in Soviet Gulags, Psychiatric hospitals and third-party nations such as Czechoslovakia.
We know several hundred men were interrogated by the Soviets, interrogation reports are present, but those men (and women) were never returned."
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Cold War: We have no reporting on those who ‘Died In Captivity’ that is reliable or would meet POW medal requirements that we are aware of. Most Cold War losses went unacknowledged until a decade or so ago.
We still have very many classified cases. There is evidence a number of Cold War losses fell into adversarial hands and ultimately died, and we just have no way of knowing who at this time.
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Many soldiers that survived their service during the Cold war participated in operations that were classified prior to their mission or were classified after the incidents.
Many incidents are still not declassified. Any documents relating to a classified will have instructions regarding declassification, if any, that will appear in the Classification Authority Block. Some documents containing national security information will not have declassification instructions and have been deemed too sensitive to be declassified.

Response by SSgt Dallas Frint made Jun 1 at 2018 4:21 PM

2018-06-01T16:21:06-04:00

I am service connected 10% for hearing lose and tinnitus. I was a jet engine mechanic and had that trouble diagnosed on my discharge physical. Nothing was told to me at that time about being a service connect. I was discharged in May of 1963 and just lived with it.
3 years ago ran into a DAV guy who said I should apply for a disability claim and should have done that when I was discharged. Didn't have a clue about that as I was never told.
Went though the process and had the test done and was awarded 10% for the tinnitus, the hearing is bad and was given hearing aids.
Lost 52 years from not knowing. That was my fault for not understanding how it works.

Response by SPC Brent Hale made Jun 4 at 2018 12:02 AM

2018-06-04T00:02:29-04:00

i served in the Army from 1992 to 1995.
During my AIT I had an injury to my chest. I was given the option to get medical dis charge or stay in . I choose to stay in . I wasn't going home with as a failure. So I finished my 3years. , I was always afraid to go to the VA hospital. Not sure what to do and when I got out ,I was lost no direction. So Ive let it go for many years. Since Ive been out I have had problems with my Sternum for years. Cant breath chest wont rise , frozen. Ive had many of my friends ,that are vets tell me to go , and encourage me to go to the VA. hospital. .. Just felt guilty going in when I see many of my other service members , needing help do to the injuries from combat related injuries.. .. SoI think Im ready to go. .. getting older things are getting worse... Any help would be greatly appreaciated..
Spc Hale Army
was in 3/15Inf. fort Stewart Ga 31314

Current address
Brent Hale
146 w.Westway ave
Orange Ca.92865

Response by MSgt Dale Johnson made Jun 5 at 2018 10:40 AM

2018-06-05T10:40:22-04:00

Absolutely not. Service connection to a disability weather Combat or Non-combat are in place as a part of you benefit package when you enlist. I vaguely remember it being mentioned when I enlisted (but then again I vaguely remember a lot of things, LOL). Having retired they only offset how much my military retirement is and cut me a VA check that is tax free for the amount of my disabilities. Saves me a some on taxes, I have never figured it up but I really don't think it makes that much difference.

Response by CPO Deborah Simmons made Jun 7 at 2018 9:35 AM

2018-06-07T09:35:45-04:00

It really shouldn't matter if you serviced during combat or not, you still serviced your country. I don't think any Veteran should feel guilty about getting disability compensation for their injuries.

Response by MSG Jerry O'Rourke made Jun 7 at 2018 6:49 PM

2018-06-07T18:49:27-04:00

Anytime a service member sustains an injury that requires medical treatment it is documented. W

Response by PO2 John Tyson made Jun 8 at 2018 8:22 PM

2018-06-08T20:22:34-04:00

This is the way I look at it I was a a Navy cook for 10 1/2 years I humped thousands of boxes climb in and out of stuff cleaning dipping my hands in freezing water getting burns cuts working 14-16 hour days weeks and months at a time and no days off now I have nerve damage in my hands and shoulders no one can possibly tell me all that didn't add add up I am not whinning nor crying for a handout but I can no longer just ignore my body and the punishment I put myself through to get the job done

Response by Sgt Jean Civitarese made Jun 10 at 2018 7:43 AM

2018-06-10T07:43:15-04:00

He'll no! We should not feel bad. Those of you who think otherwise can go to HELL! You did not go through the pain that I endured and STILL do. I was punished for reporting my sexual assault instead of him being punished and allowed to continue to assault other women!

Response by SGT Rich Levesque made Jun 22 at 2018 2:29 PM

2018-06-22T14:29:11-04:00

When I was a veterans service officer for VVA, I got this a lot from many veterans. My response was always bifurcated in that it was (1) a deep well, and (2) you well deserve this. That said, it is still my position. We earned these benefits by our blood, sweat, and tears. The response that a volunteer force "asked for this", I would respond that being wounded or injured in support of your country is above and beyond that service. There it is!

Response by SGT Louise Hawthorne made Jun 22 at 2018 2:47 PM

2018-06-22T14:47:28-04:00

They better feel GUILTY. It takes YEARS for legitimate claims to be honored courtesy of LIARS like that.
I know from experience

Response by LTC Michael Keenan made Jun 25 at 2018 3:39 PM

2018-06-25T15:39:15-04:00

Absolutely not! If their disabilities are service related, then they should get what they are due. When I was in basic training at Fort Dix in January 1969 I was hospitalized for a few days with pneumonia. In the bed next to me was a soldier with both legs in casts and in traction. He was a grunt (11B) just back from Vietnam. He had spent a year + in action and never got a scratch. In his last week in country he was scheduled to ETS from Vietnam and become a civilian. He got run over by a "deuce-and-a-half" which crushed both his legs. If anyone thinks this soldier didn't deserve a disability, he/she should reconsider his/her opinion.

Response by CW2 Max Dolan made Jul 3 at 2018 10:38 AM

2018-07-03T10:38:19-04:00

Nope. They should NOT feel guilty about anything. I work with wounded, ill and injured service members, their military family caregivers, and veterans each and every day. If a young soldier gets literally "poked in the eye with a sharp stick" in training and is medically discharged...he is a disabled veteran. If a paratrooper breaks a leg in training so badly that he cannot continue in service...he is a disabled veteran. If a female Marine contracts a serious disease that makes her continued service impossible...she is a disabled veteran. What do they have in common with those who are combat wounded? They all climbed up onto the altar of Freedom for their country and offered their lives as living sacrifices. The fact that they could not do a PLF (parachute landing fall) off of that altar after 20 years makes no difference.

Response by Amn Cassandra Lynn made Jul 3 at 2018 11:10 PM

2018-07-03T23:10:41-04:00

I have 70% service connected Disability (MST- Military Sexual Trama). So Yes I am for VA disability coverage. Just because someone wasn't in combat doesn't mean that they can't get VA disability coverage.

Response by SSgt Holden M. made Jul 5 at 2018 1:24 PM

2018-07-05T13:24:24-04:00

I feel as though veterans shouldn't feel bad about any VA disability compensation non-combat related injuries. I feel as though if it effects your quality of life then claim it, and don't feel bad at all. Luckily I went through the mental struggle when I was on active duty but for months I didn't want to reach out because I always told myself "There are guys out there worse off than me that need it more than me." or "Have you heard all the negative about the VA, you will be lucky to get any kind of help from the VA." Something to tell yourself is my journey is different than others. I know I'm getting up on my soap box but in general non combat vets should feel bad or any less than combat vets. You served your time if you got an injury of any kind while you were in then it's service connected. I know a guy that was in the marines and deployed and came back and a couple months after he got back he was in a car accident that almost cost him his life and he has a severe TBI and can't talk as well still because of it but it's still service connected, and gets seen at the VA for it.

Response by AB Mark Howard made Jul 6 at 2018 1:28 AM

2018-07-06T01:28:46-04:00

I feel that as a Veteran we also served and should get the entitlements as my wife says if you wore a uniform you deserve the benefits

Response by SGT Louise Hawthorne made Jul 6 at 2018 3:00 PM

2018-07-06T15:00:06-04:00

NEVER.
Our scars are evidence of our defense of this Nation. I'm 100 percent disabled and proud of mine. Every mark is evidence of fidelity and character.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Jul 13 at 2018 11:20 PM

2018-07-13T23:20:29-04:00

I think you should deserve disability if its military related.
SSG MARK FRANZEN
USA VET

Response by SGT Christopher Combs made Jul 15 at 2018 11:13 AM

2018-07-15T11:13:43-04:00

If you're awarded compensation for being hurt while in the military then no you should not feel bad because that's part of what you signed up for

Response by SSG James James made Jul 18 at 2018 11:35 PM

2018-07-18T23:35:31-04:00

Fuck no, every dime

Response by PO2 Steven Parker made Jul 19 at 2018 1:26 PM

2018-07-19T13:26:18-04:00

No I don't.

Response by CPT Ted Coulter made Jul 20 at 2018 5:22 PM

2018-07-20T17:22:15-04:00

no I felt a bit guilty at first but the army in infantry is a very dangerous job people get seriously hurt or killed on regular basis. Injured training for war or being in a war ...there should be no difference.

Response by SPC Ralph Ellis made Jul 30 at 2018 1:23 PM

2018-07-30T13:23:56-04:00

- You are up before probably 90% of the civilian workforce, and on many days you will get off duty a few hours after 90% of the civilian workforce.
- Many daily tasks in the military are exceedingly tough to perform, physiologically, and we take a highly-motivated, mission-first, do-or-die approach to said tasks or missions.

For years I watched mechanics in the motorpool go in directly after PT, and often not come back in the barracks, soaked in grease and ATF (and sometimes a bit of blood) @ 2200, only to wake up again and repeat.

Same with many other MOS's.
We are a self-sustaining fighting force that requires 100% commitment to maintenance of the unit and ones self to ensure mission readiness and effectiveness.

If you conduct yourself with the mission first attitude and dedication, and get injured in the line of duty, whether in garrison or in combat, then you are absolutely justified in utilizing the VA to receive disability compensation for "non-combat related injuries".

Anyone who says otherwise, in my opinion, is completely bereft of the realization of what we do and prepare for in the military.

You don't just "get a benefit-rich job" by joining the military.

You have signed on to:

A. Do what you are told to do, when and where you are told to do it.
B. Place your personal and family life secondary to the mission.
C. Hold yourself to extremely high, and secondary standards far exceeding social norm (AR 670-1, UCMJ enforced behavior standards, Courtesies and Customs, etc.)
D. Completely submit yourself to a secondary system of law that can effectively end your marketability and potential life-success when you get out, which is ultimately in the hands of the few appointed above you, not all of whom have your best interests in mind (unfortunately).

If, in the service of your country, in *any capacity*, you are injured, and it will have lasting effects, you are wholly justified, by virtue of what you signed on to do, selflessly, to receive VA benefits for said disabling condition.

For those of us who deployed into combat operations, we still deployed with this mentality and realization.

Sure, the effect of combat operations may have a slightly higher impact than something that happened in garrison, but this does not diminish the character of said person in garrison, or their contributions to the "one team, one fight" mission.

Acting as if a training accident is somehow "less valid" than an in-theater injury is indignant.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jul 30 at 2018 9:52 PM

2018-07-30T21:52:01-04:00

The military can depreciate your body.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Jul 31 at 2018 12:09 AM

2018-07-31T00:09:17-04:00

SGT, I know what you mean and the answer is a loud NO, but some will take this question as a means to again say there is a difference between ‘combat’ vets and ‘regular’ vets. Everyone plays a role in the wheel of the Army, and if that wheel doesn’t roll, NO battle will be won. One team one fight folks....

Response by GySgt Richard James made Jul 31 at 2018 12:35 PM

2018-07-31T12:35:22-04:00

Well, well, well....really when you consider the Politicians that have never ever served a day in the military receiving VA benefits after or during their tenure as a government representative, how can any veteran feel bad about being a recipient of non-combat related injuries? As stated earlier, training during peacetime can and does have its physical toll on us. The problem is and seems to remain is getting the VA to award the disability to veterans of “Peace Time”.....

Response by Lt Col George Roll made Aug 1 at 2018 11:38 PM

2018-08-01T23:38:56-04:00

No they should Not feel bad recieving disability comp for non Combat activities. Military Service in Peace and War is a Full Time committment, injuries incurred at work or in Training are just as disabling, just as painful and just as perminent as ones on the Battle field. When we sign on the dotted line we write that check for our lives to defend this country. If we're lucky that check doesn't get cashed. But we still wrote it.

Response by CPO William A. Bullard Jr. made Aug 4 at 2018 5:05 PM

2018-08-04T17:05:01-04:00

Simple Answer: NO!

Response by SSG Ricky Findley made Aug 5 at 2018 1:26 AM

2018-08-05T01:26:24-04:00

I ended up being declared IU by the VA. No one talks about the social interaction that is lost because of an inability to work, or the loss of the intrinsic value of feeling like you are contributing to society or the feeling you get from putting in a good day's work and being appreciated for your contribution. After I got back, I earned both a Bachelor's degree and a Master's degree, with the expectation that I would be able to contribute more. PTSD robbed me of that. I didn't ask for it, didn't want it, and if it was up to me, I would still be working and contributing. A lot of people dont talk about what it does to your pride after putting in all that work. It kind of feels like you get crumpled up like a piece of trash and thrown to the side of the road, because you can't operate at the level you once did. After awhile. it's almost like wanting to give up because everyone else used you up and gave up on you.

Response by SMSgt Jeff Kyle made Aug 8 at 2018 8:19 AM

2018-08-08T08:19:11-04:00

No. I’m 100% VA for various non-combat related injuries. I’m also rated 100% from SSDI and finally I receive 25 year retirement from active duty. I don’t say I earned these ailments. I’d much rather be working, fishing, hunting, pretty much everything I was involved with prior to falling twice.

Response by SGT Rudy Gibson made Aug 8 at 2018 12:21 PM

2018-08-08T12:21:32-04:00

I was hurt while in combat and also during peace time. Funny thing is my peace time injury was much much worse than my combat related injury. Eventually, I was medically retired due to my peace time injury. I am 100% service connected and can tell you. The pain I live with is not worth the money.

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Aug 8 at 2018 1:40 PM

2018-08-08T13:40:57-04:00

explain NON COMBAT related injuries, Are you taking about the guy who ate too many MRE's in combat and got the shits from it and filed a claim. That all depends on the doctor who evaluated that person. I think PTSD is a combat related injury, I did not go to the VA and tell them I had PTSD and the rap sheet that goes with it. I was diagnosed with it through my retirement and VA claim when I retired and I don't think I am taking anything away from the government just because this guy who has missing fingers or limb went to the wrong doctor and did not fight for their case and only got 30% instead of 90% I think that is on who evaluates the claim. I think everyone who serves should receive at least 10% for serving our country but do they? NO the system is broken and I know veterans who can't even get a claim filed to the VA because of that kind of system. Try getting a claim in AZ compared to PA and bet your claim in PA will go through much faster because PA takes care of their veterans. I'm sick in tired of hearing veterans saying their VA turned them down, REALLY move and go to another VA or keep filing your claim until they give you what you want. Most people want 100% but it don't work that way if the Army or whatever service you were in granted you some type of % be happy because you are among the ones who get over. I see no reason to get VA Disability Compensation for what I have. I wasn't awarded a pretty PH or BSM for my actions but I damn sure happy my claim came back with 90% End of story/

Response by Brig Gen Joe C made Aug 14 at 2018 10:08 PM

2018-08-14T22:08:43-04:00

I've had more friends get permanently injured or killed in training accidents than combat missions.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 14 at 2018 10:40 PM

2018-08-14T22:40:11-04:00

No. I did for quite a while, though. Some of my rating involves non-combat stuff. I am just glad we even have disability, ratings, and pay to begin with. It could be worse.

Response by Lt Col Bill Fletcher made Aug 15 at 2018 9:22 AM

2018-08-15T09:22:31-04:00

I do feel bad about applying for the benefits even as I having ringing in my ears, can't turn my head and my back always hurts (from years of flying F4s). It is why I have waited so long to apply. I didnt and don't want someone who really was injured to be in line behind me.

Response by PO1 Jeffrey Pennala made Aug 16 at 2018 3:30 PM

2018-08-16T15:30:00-04:00

It was a part of the deal we made when we joined the service, we kept our end now they can keep their end of the deal. When you enlisted you had certain expectations from the military, a part of that was health care and afterward VA eligibility. Do you feel bad about using educational benefits? Of course not, it was part of the agreement you had with the military when you joined, the same thing applies for disability compensation a benefit you earned if you need it.

Response by CPO John Moore made Aug 18 at 2018 1:16 AM

2018-08-18T01:16:00-04:00

I was told if it was service related you could get disability for it. so if the VA gives it to for a service related injury you rate it.

Response by COL John Hudson made Aug 18 at 2018 6:36 AM

2018-08-18T06:36:04-04:00

From The IG Desk: "Service Connectivity" is not restricted to combat-related injuries. Rather, it encompasses a universe of medical issues occurring during one's military career. For example, I was called to active duty during the Balkan Conflict and suffered an injury to my neck. I reported to sick call, was examined by competent medical personnel and put through a six-week program of physical therapy. The HHC Commander completed a line-of-duty (LOD) report. That, coupled with a copy of the medical report, were all that was needed to ensure treatment at any Veterans Hospital, a "Rating" appointment, and determination that disability treatment and pay were authorized. This applies to all service members in all branches of the U.S. military.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Aug 18 at 2018 10:24 AM

2018-08-18T10:24:43-04:00

If you retire as an O4 or higher, you do not get 5 point veterans preference. If disabled, you get all ten. This means someone chaptered after six months will get hired over me and this system all but says, get a rating. Is it wrong, yes. Is it right someone that does not want to adapt to military life gets hired over me, absolutely not.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 23 at 2018 6:03 AM

2018-08-23T06:03:50-04:00

Absolutely not.

Response by Sgt Robert Gardner made Aug 24 at 2018 11:41 AM

2018-08-24T11:41:44-04:00

If you were hurt while in the service of our country you deserve disability compensation no matter where the incident happened.

Response by Sgt Patrick M. made Aug 24 at 2018 7:02 PM

2018-08-24T19:02:57-04:00

No, my injuries were from a helo crash during a peacetime exercise. If your injury is service connected then that is what the VA disability is for.

Response by SrA John Monette made Aug 24 at 2018 7:37 PM

2018-08-24T19:37:50-04:00

I was never in combat and I have a combined 70% disability rating. A great percentage of veterans never served in combat. I used to feel a bit guilty, like I hadn't "earned" it, but that has changed. However, stood toe-to-toe (figuratively) with the Soviets and East Germans in West Germany. Is combat more dangerous? probably. but how "safe" are three-day long exercises in the dead of winter and heat of summer? It took me years to come to that realization. besides, someone has to stay in the rear, whether CONUS or Europe, or wherever while others get deployed. they are subject to very real threats in their own right.

Response by MAJ Alan Montgomery made Aug 26 at 2018 2:14 PM

2018-08-26T14:14:06-04:00

No veteran should ever feel bad for being awarded and receiving compensation for their injuries while serving - matters not that the injury occurred in combat, during training, or in the halls of the Pentagon. I am proud of my time in trial under fire, thankful even, and take comfort in the knowledge I did not shirk from my duty or cower in my fox hole. To the men and women who still seek answers to questions that can only be answered while under fire, and who sustain personal injury I say go forth with pride to the VA for you SERVED when so many did not. Never be ashamed for your service, the flag you performed that service under or the oath you took upon entering the service. You earned your compensation, for you chose to serve and your injuries were earned honorably in the course of your service. Let no man, woman, or child shame you into believing otherwise!

Response by Rebecca Morley made Aug 29 at 2018 12:56 PM

2018-08-29T12:56:36-04:00

Not one bit. I am more than happy being a civillian, work my butt off, pay taxes & know that my hard earned money is going toward a veterans healthcare and assisting them getting back on their feet combat or not. Service is service whether you are injured in combat or during training (or some other scenario I failed to mention). Whether you got injured during combat or not, makes zero difference to this taxpayer. Thank you for your service.

Response by SFC Fred Wagner III made Aug 29 at 2018 4:49 PM

2018-08-29T16:49:26-04:00

Absolutely not. I was stationed at Camp Lejeune North Carolina in the '70s, diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma in the '90s, and am 100% total and permanent disabled today. The VA finally agreed my cancer was related to my being stationed at CLNC. Too bad my wife and daughter can't get the same VA treatment I do. Families of servicemen and servicewomen serve, too!

Response by 1SG Michael Farrell made Sep 1 at 2018 3:27 AM

2018-09-01T03:27:00-04:00

One thing to remember is that all Veterans came into the service prepared to go to war and suffer. Some of us suffered outside of war; the degree of injury has a lot to do with the grant. The other thing that people should be conscious of is that of all the classes drawing disability from the government, only retired Veterans granted less than 50% lose money on the deal because their "benefit" consists of a reduction in the amount of pension; those funds are then paid as the VA disability. The sole "benefit" is that that money isn't taxed. This practice was one of those great things that in the 20 years since I've retired I've heard lots of people -- AUSA, American Legion, DAV, VFW, and various supposed "veterans advocates" from both parties have advocated changing that law and allowing concurrent receipt. Never happened, of course; there was some action for those who received more than 50% that they would receive the full pension plus the disability. One big mistake Vets and some Vets organizations make is to pit various parts of our community against each other. Solidarity goes further to achieve justice than some of the nonsense these organizations and "advocates" get into primarily to increase the size of their own rice bowl.
Personally, I am 40% disabled; I have been asssured by various Army and civilian docs that I should apply for consideration for an increase. I could use the money, but so long as we have people waiting for months if not years for their award, I have refused to get in line. I'm not a saint or a hero; but, I would be unable to sleep at night if I thought there was a chance that somebody in desperate need of a decision suffered any delay because someone was spending time on my case.

Response by Sgt Roy Hale made Sep 3 at 2018 4:38 AM

2018-09-03T04:38:27-04:00

I would say Service is Service

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Sep 10 at 2018 8:25 AM

2018-09-10T08:25:47-04:00

I guess I would have to ask how you define combat-related. In my mind everything we do on duty is combat related - or at least it should be. Either we are IN combat, we are recovering and reorganizing from combat, or we are preparing for combat - even if there is no scheduled deployment, or even an actual combat going on at the time. So.... Yeah, almost all of it is "combat-related" IMHO.

Now, if you get in a brawl at the bar and someone breaks your arm in three places, and it is never the same again, but you just happen to be in the military at the time... Yeah, I think someone should maybe feel bad about getting VA disability for that.

Response by SPC Vonnie Jones made Sep 13 at 2018 12:39 AM

2018-09-13T00:39:52-04:00

I don't think it should matter. From the time you raise your right hand and take the oath you are more at risk than when you were a civilian. We train hard! I was a combat medic, there are so many injuries during peacetime training that sometimes those injuries effect your ability to work effectively in a civilian job. A back injury in peacetime can be as bad as one during combat. I haven't filed any claims but was exposed to AO and have a horrible back. So one day I will find a claim. I am also honored to say the 10 years I served were peacetime, however serving anytime is an honor.

Response by SPC Mike Davis made Sep 13 at 2018 8:31 AM

2018-09-13T08:31:36-04:00

Never heard a shot fired in anger. Honorable discharge. May have been discharged but service time never left me. Was a CW (dit-da) radio operator. Cannot understand 20% of spoken words, Tinnitus (constant ringing in ears) Bilateral hearing loss with vertigo secondary to bilateral hearing loss. 100% disabled. Would prefer 0% disabled. Sometimes one's duty never enjoys hearing "relieved of duty."

Response by SSG Gary Frank made Sep 23 at 2018 10:05 PM

2018-09-23T22:05:41-04:00

I have been reading the statements regarding this issue. I do not understand any rebuttal to VA Comp to the vets who have served in any fashion. Their injuries were attributed to time served. So no questions should be asked accept for those associated to comp given for such injury

Response by SFC David Pope, MBA made Sep 25 at 2018 9:56 PM

2018-09-25T21:56:57-04:00

If you were working for a private employer and got injured on the job, their workers comp insurance would have to pay for it. If you are disabled from a construction project you can collect disability. So why would the military be any different? Besides your pay already sucks!

Response by SGT David Lacer made Sep 28 at 2018 12:38 AM

2018-09-28T00:38:28-04:00

No we are all veterans, if you served and had a non combat related injury but we're still injured you should receive disability if you qualify.

Response by PO1 Aaron Baltosser made Sep 30 at 2018 9:50 PM

2018-09-30T21:50:36-04:00

Why would anyone that has ever served feel bad about an injury, and compensation for it. Combat is a big deal...but let's be honest about it. Not everyone will ever see that opportunity, and we have all kinds of things that are still likely to cause serious injury or death during something as 'simple' as training. During helicopter ops for example members of 2/8 on 10 May 1996 were doing night ops. A Cobra helicopter blade struck the bas of a CH-46. 16 men were killed instantly and two helicopters fell form the sky. It wasn't combat, and the two CH-46 pilots managed to survive the crash because of how far forward they were when the Cobra hit them from behind. I've done duty with 2nd AAV's as well and there were many ways to get injured in and around one. I've seen the aftermath of a ground guide that guided a truck backwards into his chest pinning him against a shipping container. A PFC new join to the unit that wanted to be seen as helpful was there helping to change a truck tire without the proper safety boots, because he hadn't done that part of the check in process yet. the tire fell over smashing his foot into a mess that had him leave the Marine Corps in 18 months after his med boards were over. None of these were combat related, and all of them were service related. the men and women involved came into service in a particular state of health, and did not leave in the same state of health. Why on earth then would anyone suggest they should not be compensated for service related injuries that cause a permanent effect on their physical health?

Response by PO2 Roger LaFarlette made Oct 7 at 2018 11:31 PM

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Response by SFC Eugene Helstrom made Oct 12 at 2018 6:08 AM

2018-10-12T06:08:28-04:00

I highly agree with LTC Christensen. There is no shame to receiving VA or Military compensation unless a service member lied about injuries. Being Injured while on active duty happens at no fault to the service member, trust me, I speak from experience. If a military medical board confirms and recommends retirement then it is perfectly fine.

Response by Lisa Fiedler made Oct 12 at 2018 8:03 AM

2018-10-12T08:03:23-04:00

We don't pay our military/veterans enough as it is, so any health care or disability benefits they need, we should pay. PERIOD.

Response by SGT Frank Pritchett made Oct 21 at 2018 12:58 PM

2018-10-21T12:58:01-04:00

I don't think any Veteran should feel bad in receiving compensation for injuries incurred while on duty but I do have reserves about someone claiming PTSD just out of basic training and receiving 40% Disability for it.

Response by CSM David Porterfield made Oct 21 at 2018 8:25 PM

2018-10-21T20:25:00-04:00

NO! If it's service related then they should be compensated. You can't file a lawsuit (generally speaking) for employer related injuries and that's one reason you receive VA compensation. Now all the fakers, primarily PTSD should be ashamed of themselves. I know a few and it pisses me off.

Response by SFC Robert Lee Rice made Oct 25 at 2018 10:37 AM

2018-10-25T10:37:05-04:00

I'm a Retired SFC E-7,Vietnam Vet,I'm 100% disabled,due to Agent Orange. from my service in Vietnam. I earned EVERY nickle of my disability money.by virtue,of the stupid bastards,that decided,that spraying that poison,was a great idea. Of 42 people in my section,I know of 19,that have died from agent orange related cancers. I would LOVE to see the persons responsible,tried and convicted,for war crimes,against the Vietnamese people,and OUR MILITARY.AM I bitter?? Damn right,I was self employed,and was earning an average of $165,000 a year,my disability pay,is not even half of that. SFC Bob Rice,Retired,55X4HJ5.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2018 3:19 PM

2018-10-25T15:19:35-04:00

I think we all agree that veterans shouldn't feel bad about VA disability compensation, HOWEVER, I'll go you one further.. By reg, National Guard are required to train and maintain on their own.. But have no recourse, when they're injured in a "non-duty" status. Basically, they're requiring something they're not covering. (of course I may be a bit prejudiced given I obliterated my ankle, while training on a non-duty status). BEYOND that.. CA Army National Guard now has (what appears to be a violation of AR) a policy where there are processing restrictions on DUTY injuries.. Such that supporting documents aren't made permanent, which will lead to difficulty protecting those Soldiers down the line when they need to report an otherwise "legitimate" injury for compensation.

Response by SSG Glenn Williams made Oct 28 at 2018 9:31 PM

2018-10-28T21:31:31-04:00

No. A veteran who was injured while in service should not feel bad about being awarded disability. I served a total of 26 years and am very thankful for the VA. I know that some veterans are making false claims but that speaks to their character and hopefully someday they will be held accountable.

Response by SGT Russell Good made Oct 30 at 2018 4:34 PM

2018-10-30T16:34:00-04:00

Thanks to the media, especially TV, the civilian population is more aware of Special Ops personnel. During Viet Nam my husband was involved in classified missions of POW extraction. Therefore he "was never there". We cannot get proof of in country service to prove his exposure to Agent Orange. He has developed issues related to AO, and is being denied service connected disability due to this. We'll continue to work to solve his for as long as we can. Iknow he is not alone in this effort.

Response by SSG Dave Rowan made Nov 1 at 2018 9:28 AM

2018-11-01T09:28:50-04:00

No, Unless you are running for political office, and show that your Disability, isnt really disabling. .like Richard Ojeda

Response by PO1 Rexford Dundon made Nov 17 at 2018 10:49 PM

2018-11-17T22:49:05-05:00

10% here, for hearing loss. 3 threshold shifts during my 20 years in the Navy. Yes, shipboard life is noisy.

Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Nov 18 at 2018 10:48 PM

2018-11-18T22:48:23-05:00

Military service can, or will, or already has taken a toll on a service member's body and mind. Some veterans cannot do certain jobs which may result in loss of income. There is an impact in quality of life and employment.

I feel "grateful" that our country has a program like VA providing disability compensation to give us a chance to live, work, and do something with our lives.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2018 6:26 PM

2018-11-25T18:26:59-05:00

No it should not be an issue you dont know wht you were exposed to during your time in the survice and the long term effects IE shot given by the medical dept premob

Response by CPO Dan Wiberg made Nov 25 at 2018 9:23 PM

2018-11-25T21:23:09-05:00

All my injuries happened on active duty. It is not my fault the VA has taken decades to address them. After all they said I was malingering a broken neck for 27 years a broken back for 19 A hiatal hernia which they diagnosed in 1996 and will finally operate on in January. As well as all the tumors for exposure to radiation. The VA was manned until recently by a bag of dicks.
Imagine living in a wheel chair with a broken neck and a broken back because a bunch of douche kits cannot diagnose a freekin broken neck and back and instead diagnose it a ALS???

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2018 9:30 PM

2018-11-25T21:30:10-05:00

no SIR.DID YOU FEEL BAD WHILE you Served?

Response by SSgt Michael Bowen made Nov 30 at 2018 5:38 PM

2018-11-30T17:38:29-05:00

If it happened in the line of duty No guilt at all . if it happened from speeding down the road on your motorcycle a little . If it happened after you got out a lot .

Response by SPC(P) Gildardo Navarro made Dec 1 at 2018 1:02 AM

2018-12-01T01:02:53-05:00

no, you shouldn't feel bad at all

Response by GySgt Keith Rininger made Dec 1 at 2018 12:40 PM

2018-12-01T12:40:25-05:00

Hell NO...Majority are Non Combat related. To fight hard, you train hard, Injuries can certainly be expected.

Response by SGT Donald Croswhite made Dec 2 at 2018 3:44 AM

2018-12-02T03:44:23-05:00

Not all injuries come from that brief moment you find yourself deployed.

Response by SGT Mark Estes made Dec 2 at 2018 7:26 AM

2018-12-02T07:26:15-05:00

Absolutely not!

Response by SGT Quentin Moore made Dec 2 at 2018 2:29 PM

2018-12-02T14:29:39-05:00

Response by SPC Randy Torgerson made Dec 4 at 2018 1:22 PM

2018-12-04T13:22:11-05:00

Of course not, you served you benefit. Period...!!

Response by CPO Nate S. made Dec 4 at 2018 10:41 PM

2018-12-04T22:41:34-05:00

Why would this question ever have to be asked in the 1st place? Let me be very clear - NO VETERAN deserves less – EVER!!!!!!!!

Response by CPO Nate S. made Dec 4 at 2018 10:58 PM

2018-12-04T22:58:22-05:00

Let me be very clear - NO VETERAN deserves less – EVER!!!!!!!! What is the back story of why this question should ever be posed in the first place?

What I attempted to share would not load (aka Post) I have a story to share. If I can get my words to post (aka load & save) my additional details will be clear!

Response by SPC Casey Ashfield made Dec 5 at 2018 1:28 PM

2018-12-05T13:28:30-05:00

I used to. My rating is only 10% at the moment (appeals ad nauseum). My pain issues make it rather difficult for me to hold down steady employment. I felt bad because I felt that "I didn't do much" in the military. There was always someone who had more to show for it. What started to change my mind was a sit down I had with one of my last squad leaders. He reminded me that it took 7 people to replace what I did overseas on base. I was one of the last soldiers to rotate out because I had so many people to show the ropes to.

Response by SP5 Pat Hughes made Dec 5 at 2018 4:23 PM

2018-12-05T16:23:12-05:00

Very simple, Two words
AGENT ORANGE, feel bad absolutely not.
Pissed off you bet

Response by CPO Nate S. made Dec 5 at 2018 9:55 PM

2018-12-05T21:55:32-05:00

I am a USN Chief Hospital Corpsman, Preventive Medicine Specialist and FMF “Doc” (aka - your Combat Medic) by training. CPL Robert Ray is 100% SPOT ON regarding the “Peacetime” military. I can tell you I treated many injuries from training and other activities before Desert Storm. After Desert Storm the same jobs taking care of jets engines, motor vehicle maintenance, range accidents, etc. all generate injuries of either immediate or ‘repetitive exposure that cause permanent limits or disability.
Your commentary – “Even the safest professions in the military carry a level of danger above that of a civilian career. People get hurt in ‘safe’ environments.” PLUS, your words - “Since the military does not have Workers Compensation, the VA's compensation is what's left” – are SPOT ON COMMENTS!

Frankly, I resent the implication that somehow veterans who have a Service Connected Disability (SCD), while minor, is still a disability obtained on active duty, are somehow not worthy of some form of healthcare by the VA. My wife and are both SCD veterans. She is 50% and I am < 20%. We also happen to both be retired USN. When will veterans quit attacking veterans with these “attacking” vets “who are - just asking the question”, asking such a question. They insinuate by asking the question they are somehow entitle to more than other vest who had different sacrifices are now entitled to less. WTFO!!!!!

My job was to preserve, protect and when needed to save life if I could. I get so sick and tired of such questions it frankly, pisses me off!!!

On my second Med Cruise (we were a relatively Peacetime navy at the time, except for harassing Gaddafi) I got an anaerobic infection in my left leg where I still carry the indentation scar where the infection occurred. It nearly cost me my life. I took an unexpected fall that opened a 2-inch hole in my leg. It was healing fine then I took 180-degree DOWN TURN. For > days I had temps of 104 – 108 degrees (including the traditional double spiked temps that indicate a certain from of malaria – which I thankfully did not also have) requiring cooling bed baths and other aggressive temperature management. I was on intense IV antibiotics. I was finally well enough, to take advantage of our final Port Call in Halifax, were I was able to get off the ship for a few hours after being in our hospital ward for > 14 days and then on restricted light duty for nearly as long as I continued to recover. Even, on an aircraft carrier they nearly had to Med Evac me! At the same-time we received a healthy young sailor, who just 24hrs before I turned bad and < 7 days after he reported aboard was placed in our ICU that did not fare as well. He had been on leave before coming to his new command (my ship). He had acquired Legionnaires, but did not get sick because of the incubation time (his transit time from the USA to the ship) and by the time the physicians had tracked down his exposure he was dead 72-hrs later. So, you see, us “Docs” are exposed the bunch of hazards if we want to be or not. Humm!!!

Anyway, my fever finally broke. But, I was very weak. When, the ship returned to Norfolk my family, who was on the pier to greet me, did not recognize me at first because I had lost a lot of weight. Weighing in normally at about 160 lbs then from illness having a 25 lb non-exercise induced weight loss from vomiting and @#%$#@# myself to death was real damn fun!

While, I did not get compensated for that incident I don’t ask for more because, those who lost capabilities (arms, legs, cognitive function, etc.) than I have deserve what they are receiving, and I would argue more. I walked out of military service with all my parts. But, the VA did recognize other exposures that impact me slightly. I have been encouraged to go back and calm other issues, but I don’t care too. I get about 10% of my care at VA and 90% via my civilian provider. I was also recently diagnosed with a condition that is non-life threatening, but I will require surgery in 2019 that the VA has scheduled. The surgery around my neck could leave me mute, if the surgeon screws up!

I wonder, am I, as a result of this question, now not deserving of care VA given the question that was asked and its implication?!?!?!? (The question is of course rhetorical.)

Again, this kind of question REALLY pisses me off!!! Let me be very clear - NO VETERAN deserves less – EVER!!!!!!!! I am not mad at the veteran who asked the question. I am pissed that ANY veteran ever has to entertain even needing to suggest the need to elicit responses.

CPL Robert Ray Thank you for your words and Lt Col Christensen thank you as well!

COL Mikel J. Burroughs; CPT Aaron Kletzing; Nicci Eisenhauer

Response by PO2 Bisa Strickland made Dec 6 at 2018 12:34 AM

2018-12-06T00:34:28-05:00

NO they should not feel bad! Some injuries are not able to be seen with the naked eye. Meaning some people have internal injuries......

Response by PO2 Bisa Strickland made Dec 6 at 2018 12:38 AM

2018-12-06T00:38:50-05:00

No. Some injuries received during combat you can not see with the naked eye. All veterans that have fought for their country deserve to be compensated. Period. That's the least the government can do for them. I believe all active and retired and veterans period deserve more for what they do. It takes courage to sign your name on that line a die for a country that sometimes doesn't even act like they care about you. Yes you volunteer, but still you are putting your life on the line. You have some in office who have never seen a battle field not even seen a military branch and are paid for the rest of their lives for saying yes or no.... Really.... YES they deserve it!! (Veterans)

Response by SSG Rheta Perez made Dec 6 at 2018 8:41 AM

2018-12-06T08:41:43-05:00

My first reaction is, yes, but I’m thinking about a REMF who gets drunk and plows into a farm truck on the way to bingo. I know a person who got into a car crash off duty and has been sucking the government teat for 20 years. But as far as a service related disability, non-combat, then I’d have to give that more thought. I developed bad feet and a bad back while in the army. Am I entitled to disability? Nope, I don’t think so. Not in my case, at least.

Response by SCPO Morris Ramsey made Dec 6 at 2018 12:28 PM

2018-12-06T12:28:38-05:00

This is pretty old, but still revenant I suppose as we are still getting comments. PO3 Claude Jiang PO3 Phyllis Maynard SGT Private RallyPoint Member

Response by 1SG Dale Cantrell made Dec 12 at 2018 1:39 PM

2018-12-12T13:39:24-05:00

No , bottom line, he or she is a veteran, injured on duty , wherever , should draw disability

Response by MGySgt Rick Tyrrell made Dec 14 at 2018 5:55 PM

2018-12-14T17:55:06-05:00

Not at all since they are service related injuries.

Response by SPC Gary Welch made Dec 17 at 2018 2:59 AM

2018-12-17T02:59:58-05:00

Hell no it's called service related for a reason now there are some that I don't agree with

Response by SPC Juli Reid made Dec 17 at 2018 12:38 PM

2018-12-17T12:38:40-05:00

If you served and were injured at any time during your service due to the requirements of that service you should not feel bad. I wasn't in the service very long, but was stationed in Germany. This was at a time when women in certain MOS's were few and far between. My platoon had 110 soldiers, 5 of whom were women. So when time came for unstructured PT and your choice was the gym or running, I would go to the gym. I had difficulties with breathing while running so I only did it when I had to. In the gym there was a weight machine and a basketball court. With so many guys, the 5 of us didn't play basketball as you might imagine. I developed a relatively severe injury that required surgery due to improper use of the weights. What did I know about weights? I do have a disability from that. For a long time I was embarrassed to let anyone know about that and that after that I didn't serve much longer. I have come to realize that there was nothing to be ashamed of. I served with honor, fully intended to fulfill my commitment to the utmost of my ability should it have become necessary. I am no longer embarrassed or ashamed of it.

Response by SFC Edward Sneed made Jan 3 at 2019 9:42 PM

2019-01-03T21:42:50-05:00

Lots of injuries and diseases can occur later or after inactive military service, and a veteran should be allowed to receive compensation, as these injuries or diseases can last during the veterans inactive life. Even if they are noncombat related.

Response by 1SG Kenneth Talkington Sr made Jan 3 at 2019 10:55 PM

2019-01-03T22:55:00-05:00

There is no reason to feel bad about receiving disability.If the injury or cause of the disability happened while serving then it should be received without stigma.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2019 5:40 AM

2019-01-04T05:40:37-05:00

Why should they feel like they’re undeserving? If you are or were military (any branch) and receive disability, then you deserve it. Stop questioning your worth; and if someone is? Question theirs. Better yet ignore them, they ain’t worth your time.

Response by MSgt Hal Weeden, MBA made Jan 4 at 2019 8:14 PM

2019-01-04T20:14:47-05:00

SGT Private RallyPoint Member, no, they should not; however, many do. Personally, I just don't talk about it much. When I do, I usually just say, "I don't write the rules, but I'll sure play the game!" I don't mean that to sound as if I am trying to game the system, because I absolutely am not. My injuries and conditions are legitimate.

Response by SSG Lee Edwards made Jan 5 at 2019 1:17 AM

2019-01-05T01:17:51-05:00

No. All service members are trained for and subject to serve in combat but most never engage in combat. By some estimates there are 7 service members in non-combat training/support roles for each soldier in combat. These support roles are just as critical to mission accomplishment as those on the front lines.

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2019 10:15 AM

2019-01-05T10:15:12-05:00

No. No they should not.

Response by SPC William Smrekar made Jan 5 at 2019 10:29 AM

2019-01-05T10:29:46-05:00

nope, not at all!

Response by Marlene Hessler made Jan 5 at 2019 12:20 PM

2019-01-05T12:20:30-05:00

Feeling badly about compensation for service related injuries is akin to feeling badly about surviving a combat situation where friends did not.
We have no way of knowing what else life will hand us. We have no way of knowing whether those injuries will cause further issues down the road. Make the most of what we have every day and maybe give back to other troops for the rest of the way.

Response by PO2 Anthony Gallia made Jan 5 at 2019 3:10 PM

2019-01-05T15:10:34-05:00

Two deployments to the Persian Gulf before 9-11 (98' & 00'/01' the last deployment included the USS Cole Bombing). The Pentagon does not consider anyone in my entire Battle Group a Combat Veteran even though some of us carried weapons outside of the safety and security of our unit while conducting UN Sanctions investigations against vessels trying to enter Iraq as Visit Board Search and Seizure Team. A County Service Officer puts in a claim for me that is denied and does not include a fall that resulted in a TBI. Every item in the claim is denied. He (Vietnam Marine Corps Veteran) tells me not to give up but he does not file an appeal for me, he retires and does not pass on my case to his relief. I don't know my ass from my elbow and so I don't know what to do so my service related concerns which included Post Traumatic Stress (which I don't know that I have til 17 years later) go unaddressed until I join the Reserves in 2006 and get injured CONUS before I can go on my 3rd deployment to the Gulf! I fight and rehab and return to full duty only to get injured again, dropped from my unit. Ordered to an Admin Board because I can't pass a BCA and I win. Forced to fight for a Medical Retirement because a Female Navy E-9 with NO warfare device tells me "I'm going to do everything I can to kick you out of the Navy" (while eating a salad in front of me in her office with a Navy Chief in the room). I win my medical retirement at the Navy Yard in DC. Now I have VA so many VA appointments that I can't make them all. Can't keep a steady job. Pushed almost all my family and friends away. In pain every friggin day and you want to know if I should feel bad after 13 years and 10 months of putting up with what I did?

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2019 6:17 PM

2019-01-05T18:17:33-05:00

I remember before I retired, it was the week before my retirement party, and I was talking with my brother, sister and brother in law at my house, about how I was ashamed that I was going to be receiving some type of disability compensation because of sleep apnea. I wasn't expecting to get any other problems rated at anything other than 0%, considering my injuries were never really "career-ending".
It's been 5 1/2 years, and I still feel weird about it. There are other things in my rating as well, but those make sense to me now, after all the "bumps and bruises" of a 20-year career. My total rating without doing anything other than going to my appointments is currently at 80%. It's due to rounding, as my total came to 76%.
But now, as some of the problems start to get worse, I can see why it is important to get the care we need to take the best possible care we can of our remaining health.

To those still on active duty, document and keep copies of everything. Your phone camera and a PDF scanner app are your friends when it comes to copies.

Response by 1LT Kurt Mccarthy made Jan 5 at 2019 10:56 PM

2019-01-05T22:56:34-05:00

If the injury was due to service, then NO. The military is a very demanding environment, most people can't sustain the everyday ground and pound. In 3ID, we had people running and rucking 5 days a week on tank trails. The amount of injuries was high, but leaders kept pushing this type of exercise. Some of these injuries are life altering, a broken back will plague you for the rest of your life, damaged knees, will plague you for the rest of your life, ect. I was a Medical Officer and I saw some pretty bad injuries that without a doubt affect those service members for the rest of their life. When people their age who chose not to serve, are living life happy, not injured, can get out of bed every day in no pain. Can walk from one end of the room to another in seconds, they make a lot more money because their healthy. Not to mention these injuries bring more health issues in the future, domino effect, high blood pressure, osteoporosis, possible addiction to medication, ect. Some of these injured veterans even if not from combat will never have that ability and therefore it WILL affect how much income they bring in for the rest of their life. They could have just went to college and not served at all and undoubted wouldn't have those injuries keeping them from achieving their maximum potential.

Response by Maj Ted Mc Neel Sr. made Jan 6 at 2019 11:14 AM

2019-01-06T11:14:56-05:00

The USMC commissioned me knowing I had a high frequency hearing loss. As a result of 20 years service in the Corps my hearing got substantially worse. Upon retirement but years later, I made a claim with the VA for my hearing. I was approved and all I wanted was hearing aids; however, I also eventually received 20% disability compensation - I certainly believe I merited this non-combat related service connected hearing loss injury!

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2019 7:34 PM

2019-01-06T19:34:05-05:00

ABSOLUTELY Not !!!!!

Response by Sgt Steve Williams made Jan 7 at 2019 7:51 AM

2019-01-07T07:51:53-05:00

Nobody should feel bad about receiving legitimate compensation. It was part of the deal when we joined.

Response by CW5 Dennis Stewart made Jan 7 at 2019 8:22 AM

2019-01-07T08:22:16-05:00

I agree with LTC Christensen and as to "Gaming the system" it has been my experience that VA is now the one playing the game. Hearing loss not allowed even though I served in the Artillery and the Army issued my hearing aids! Two back surgeries caused by 20 years in combat arms and that qualified for 10 percent. It seems the VA is more concerned with keeping the funds rather than compensate the solider.

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Jan 7 at 2019 4:26 PM

2019-01-07T16:26:29-05:00

No especially if it happens while on duty

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2019 12:25 PM

2019-01-11T12:25:42-05:00

Not at all. Should you feel bad about getting disability for being run over by a forklift in the parking lot after work? Either way they’re liable. If you got hurt in the line of duty you got hurt in the job and they’re liable. Also screw the VA. Take them for all you can.

Response by HN Gary Walker made Jan 17 at 2019 4:07 AM

2019-01-17T04:07:34-05:00

The military has plenty of dangerous jobs even in peacetime. Anyone that has spent time on a Carrier Deck can tell you this and hundreds of other jobs done in our Military. No way do you feel bad. That is the beautiful thing about vets. We have stuff available to us yet we would rather count on our selves. But there is a point in time when you need to take the help, don't feel bad. We have earned it. Want to feel better about it. Volunteer to help where and when you can. Just an old Navy Corpsman opinion.

Response by Eric Lund made Jan 18 at 2019 6:59 PM

2019-01-18T18:59:32-05:00

Its a sign of the times and culture that this is even a discussion. There was a time when military service to your nation was obligatory. You would be paid a salary for time served but when you got out of the service the state owed you nothing. If you were injured lost an eye or leg it was on you. WE THE PEOPLE saw this as a great injustice. The people paying the taxes chose to correct this. when you sign on the line and swear your oath you offer your life to the service of your nation. If you are permanently injured during that service; in combat, training or a support role you should be taken care of. we learned you cant recruit new soldiers if the old ones are sitting or standing on the street corner in their old tattered uniform with a sign that says "Disabled veteran!! Homeless and Hungry!! need help!!"

Response by Sgt Christopher Collins made Jan 19 at 2019 7:37 PM

2019-01-19T19:37:49-05:00

No... one who served even if it wasn't combat-related, should not be ashamed for receiving VA disability. We all served and knew the risks.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2019 3:19 PM

2019-01-20T15:19:38-05:00

I have received permanent (non-combat) injuries because of military service. I am forever living with limitations and unable to do things that I probably would be able to do had I not been in the service. It's no different than when someone is injured on a civilian job and is entitled to compensation for those injuries. If I could give the compensation back in exchange for full restoration of my health, I would.

Response by PO1 Roger Clites made Jan 25 at 2019 10:10 PM

2019-01-25T22:10:13-05:00

Not at all. Even though my disabilities may not be combat related, they were caused by the work I did and everything I was exposed to and accidents on duty. No different than a combat realted injury because in the end these are all work related injuries.

Response by 2LT Earl Dean made Jan 27 at 2019 2:54 PM

2019-01-27T14:54:30-05:00

No they shouldn't feel bad about receiving disability from VA. Look at it this way. Your a mechanic and while changing a tire on a two and a half ton and it falls off the Jack's breaking your legs. Later your legs begin hurting in the same place they were broken. Don't you think you should be able to get some sort of help and if that pain makes it so you can not walk or work. Isn't it right you be helped?

Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Jan 29 at 2019 7:18 PM

2019-01-29T19:18:18-05:00

If you are legitimately receiving this benefit, then why ask this question? If you're not, that's a different question which requires a LEGAL answer.

Response by SFC James Beason made Feb 1 at 2019 2:06 AM

2019-02-01T02:06:42-05:00

Why? There is to my knowledge a specification that it must be combat related. You get hurt doing your job and the injury kills your career, they award you a % of your base pay. It’s that simple.

Response by SP5 Rich Levesque made Feb 9 at 2019 10:15 AM

2019-02-09T10:15:28-05:00

I spent 18 years as a Veterans Service Officer for VVA. I got that a lot. If you were in the military, and you got injured in the military, you are entitled to service connected compensation. Period. End of story. (38 USC 3.1)

Response by SPC Carlos Alaniz made Feb 10 at 2019 6:37 PM

2019-02-10T18:37:24-05:00

No, even thought at first I felt non deserving, no one should feel guilty. I E.T.S'd in 1988 with 0% non compensability. I didn't file until 2015 at the urgency of some friends that cared for me. Now I feel totally different about it and recommend fellow veterans I meet to do so if it applies.

Response by SSG Kirk Wilkes made Feb 11 at 2019 7:32 PM

2019-02-11T19:32:05-05:00

No indeed.

Response by SPC John Griffin made Feb 12 at 2019 8:03 AM

2019-02-12T08:03:25-05:00

No the disability is SERVICE RELATED , not combat related

Response by SCPO Gerald Schmidt made Feb 12 at 2019 1:05 PM

2019-02-12T13:05:38-05:00

NO! When you are on active duty in the military, in most cases you are doing the same exact job, day in and day out, that you would be doing if you were in a combat area. I am retired Navy, I worked on the flight deck on aircraft carriers my entire career, operating the Launch and Recovery Equipment. That flight deck was as dangerous when we were launching aircraft during the Viet Nam war, as it was during normal peacetime operations. The aircraft on deck didn't care if it was wartime or not, they could still kill, or injure you just as quick! In my 20 years on active duty, besides my own injuries, I lost 2 sailors who worked for me to aircraft accidents and had several more injured. So you see in most cases there is no difference between operations during training or combat. Also, you only have a small number of people that are involved in actual combat, what about the support people who make his/her job possible. Remember we train to be ready for combat.

Response by Cpl Eric Kurtz made Feb 12 at 2019 8:48 PM

2019-02-12T20:48:54-05:00

Response by SSgt Henry Barksdale made Feb 12 at 2019 8:49 PM

2019-02-12T20:49:10-05:00

Absolutely No I'm Still Suffering from the time of Service

Response by SGT Gerald Cowell made Feb 12 at 2019 8:49 PM

2019-02-12T20:49:32-05:00

Yes

Response by SN Dave SanSeverino made Feb 12 at 2019 8:50 PM

2019-02-12T20:50:18-05:00

I couldn't even finish my enlistment, since I had 3 seizures; 2 of which happened on my second ship, the 3rd at Treasure Island. I got a Medical/Honorable Discharge, and was later on told that if I only had 2 seizures, I could've stayed in, at least until my 4 years was up. We also had a Shipmate commit suicide on my first ship, but I was too new to even know who he was.

I do get a pension from the VA, since my non service related disabilities are higher than my service related injuries. (Type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.)

As for the combat related injuries, well, my first ship was already back from the Persian Gulf, and my second ship most likely was on the way. So, no, I didn't have any combat related injuries myself, but a lot of my Shipmates did, and I'm sure most of them has PTSD, etc.

I have a lot of respect for all members of the Military, since most of the men in my family has served, and as of now, I'm the last one that served. I am proud to have met so many Veterans who have served, and where I live at, there's about 15 Veterans.

Response by PO2 Eric Baker made Feb 12 at 2019 8:50 PM

2019-02-12T20:50:36-05:00

Ask anyone that handled agent orange, but was not actually in combat.

Response by SFC James Corona made Feb 12 at 2019 8:51 PM

2019-02-12T20:51:34-05:00

Absolutely Not!
All Veterans signed on the dotted line blank check for ALL periods of military service.

Response by PO2 Darryl Wood made Feb 12 at 2019 8:52 PM

2019-02-12T20:52:17-05:00

Response by SFC Garry Swedlund made Feb 12 at 2019 8:53 PM

2019-02-12T20:53:05-05:00

They should feel bad. It's like stealing from someone that actually earned/deserves it. We fought for our rights to compensation.

Response by SFC James Seargeant made Feb 12 at 2019 8:53 PM

2019-02-12T20:53:07-05:00

Absolutely not.

Response by 1SG Lynell Sellers made Feb 12 at 2019 8:53 PM

2019-02-12T20:53:56-05:00

Not at all. Most of the time they joined with injuries.

Response by PFC Ricky Shaw made Feb 12 at 2019 8:54 PM

2019-02-12T20:54:43-05:00

No not if it was somewhat related to what you did in the military. I wish they would have given me something I have a really bad heart condition and sleep apena.

Response by LCpl Gary Harrell made Feb 12 at 2019 8:57 PM

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74 USMC non- war injury in Tunisia .One injury was a gas manifold explosion.My pretty face didn't get hurt. Was rushed to the ship & I was confined in tank deck for a week in darkness.There was another .Both were documented only on the other injury was my back.When getting out 1977 the doc said I did qualify for 15% however if I did I could not be a cop or fireman .I didn't take.Yes you know it never did either.VA has declined me saying records are not found.Now about 20 years ago I realized my left eye is 70% blind.I should have jumped on it in 1977

Response by SSG Mercedes Martinez made Feb 12 at 2019 8:58 PM

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No. I was hurt during a joint military FTX and I remained on active duty until I was told I had to receive a medical discharge due to a back injury which the military doctors could not perform surgery. As of March 22, 2018 I received my long awaited surgery from a Choice Program doctor and I can finally walk after 14 years.

Response by PFC Ricky Shaw made Feb 12 at 2019 8:59 PM

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I had to fight the VA for almost 30 years to get 10 percent. and now they finally are starting to help some. I had a head injury while on field exercise and they tell me that its only worth a small percent I filed for PTSD and they said it was not service connected. But hey have been treating me for PTSD for over 10 years. Haven't figured that out yet. I go to mental health every 3 months and have to take medicine that knocks me out almost just to be able to deal with people.

Response by SP5 Luis Concepcion made Feb 12 at 2019 9:02 PM

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Of course not! In my opinion you should feel bad if you don't file (if your problem originated in service) because...the US has an all-volunteer Armed Forces. Because of this, the VA is an extremely important part of our national defense strategy, taking care of people who serve because, otherwise, people will not want to join. It's a worker's compensation system.

Response by PO2 Darryl Wood made Feb 12 at 2019 9:03 PM

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What does non comdat disability 10 percent cover?

Response by Maj Jon Shebel made Feb 12 at 2019 9:05 PM

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I know a guy who knows how to "work the system" in everything he does. He got out of going to Viet
Nam by going to Korea and only served two years in the Army. Then he "read up on how to file for VA benefits" and now has a 60% VA DISABILITY RATING AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HIM!!!!!! As a civilian he has filed numerous workers' compensation claims and draws significant dollars in benefits. This guy has made a nice living off "scamming the system". The VA needs to "watch out" for these type guys. Always check to see if people have a workers' compensation claim.....you will catch a lot of fraud by checking. Multiple VA and workers' comp claims should "at least set off an alarm"!!!!!!Many vets have valid non-combat injuries that come about because of their military service and they should be compensated and proud of their service.

Response by Sgt Brenda Adkins made Feb 12 at 2019 9:05 PM

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Not a bit.

Response by FN Kenneth Finks made Feb 12 at 2019 9:09 PM

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No a veteran should not feel bad about receiving benefits he earned for his service no matter what the situation. We all had a job to do and its done whether we like it or not. So, don't feel bad

Response by SPC William Laudeman made Feb 12 at 2019 9:12 PM

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No; we did not select the duty, we served where ordered.

Response by PO1 Carl Rosignol made Feb 12 at 2019 9:20 PM

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I feel like I earned the benefits

Response by Cpl John Jaklich made Feb 12 at 2019 9:25 PM

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What I feel bad about is having subjected myself to the scrutiny of the VA mental health bullies...they intimidate, humiliate, accused of lying, "pooh-poohed" my Vietnam experience, scorned my evidence, disregarded my symptoms and compared me to the disabled who happen to succeed in business or become an athletic success. Instead of objectively evaluating individuals, they throw everyone into pigeon holes, categorizing us according to, what the counselor can do or has done. They reject claims and evidence and accuse me of fraud. After 40 years of fighting with them over 4+ claims, I am convinced the VA does not give a damn about vets...we are dispensable. They only use men as statistics to increase their budget and control masses of dysfunctional men and women; vets are guinea pigs...if they can cut you, drug you or dispense some worthless advice to get you out of the office, they'll do it. I played their game in all honesty and sincerity; and lost. My life is almost over and the VA will forever be indebted to my family. My records have been smeared by 1 year interns and those counselors who "did not want to hear anything negative". (and the records cannot be amended or removed even though the interns were not even mental health) Anytime I'd open my mouth, they shut me up and then profile me with a psychological category to label my intent or actual condition. I could have had better counseling advice from my car mechanic. At least, he would have been encouraging.

Response by PO3 Hugh Reeder made Feb 12 at 2019 9:26 PM

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Absolutely not

Response by PO3 Eddie Vazquez made Feb 12 at 2019 9:27 PM

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What is there to feel bad about?? There are people who have done or risked less than nothing for this country and by virtue of circumstances and good fortune are insanely wealthy and living comfortable lives with great health care. They would be the first to say that we didn't earn any compensation. But we veterans know better. Most, if not all, of them would have nothing, if people like us didn't spend countless days and nights far from home staying and being ready to put life and limb on the line to keep people like them safe and free.

Response by SP5 Danny Brock made Feb 12 at 2019 9:28 PM

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NOOOOOOO!!!!

Response by PO1 Bob Nelson made Feb 12 at 2019 9:30 PM

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It comes down to what you may have seen on some shirts or signs - " All Gave Some -Some Gave All "! After ten years in the Navy, working in the Main Engine Rooms, with Numerous High-speed Turbines, the Noise level was comparable to working on the Flight deck. Were all personel wore Hearing Protection, But not in the Engine Rooms. I got out in 1970 by 1980 I knew I had a hearing loss. I filed a claim taking a full physical at the Philadelphia Navel hospital, they said I had a loss but at the time of discharge I signed a waiver for a hearing exam, and therefore I couldn't receive any disabled status, from that point on all the way until 2015 I fought on and off with the VA. From 1981-1994 I served in the Army Reserve in a Artillery unit, and again no Hearing Protection, but during that time,and after a annual physical one of the Army doctors noted my hearing loss was due to my Navy Service, which was unknown to me, until 2015 when I filed one last time with a VSO officer, who brought this fact to light. At long last, and with a now 95 percent hearing loss I got my 100 percent disabled veteran status, back pay, hearing aids, and a tax free pension in addition to my retired military pension...! In conclusion, " YES ", as long as it is military service related you should be compensated....!

Response by MSG David Akins made Feb 12 at 2019 9:31 PM

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No. It is service connected. Period.

Response by SP5 Ronald Chapman made Feb 12 at 2019 9:36 PM

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As many Vietnam veterans, I am being treated for diabetes which I understand is an ailment that a lot of Vietnam veteran are being treated. According to information I have read from VA and other sources diabetes is a chronic condition that those of us who have served in Vietnam now are being treated. I have had many veterans encourage me to apply for disability compensation and have been reluctant to do so. I am at the point in dealing with the effects of diabetes that I should move forward with asking for disability compensation. At my age, +72, I have been experiencing a lot of fatigue, sleep deprivation and other issues which I now realize is diabetic related.

Response by Amn Andrew Schnatz made Feb 12 at 2019 9:37 PM

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NO if it wasn't for us where would this country be??

Response by SFC Willa Smalls made Feb 12 at 2019 9:37 PM

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No they shouldnt. The body endures physical and mental breakdown based on the continued trama it recieves via hiking running carrying rucksacks and other prolonged activities. When we joined the military we were in top condition, disability is the least we can get serving our nation.

Response by SGT Daniel Machado made Feb 12 at 2019 9:44 PM

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Not one bit do I feel bad I am a 100% service connected disability. I suffered a spinal injury in OCS and my wife had to give up her career to take care of me.

Response by SPC James Bertino made Feb 12 at 2019 9:46 PM

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Throughout military history injuries and deaths happen in training. It’s a dangerous profession and being that more combatants were killed in accidents than by the enemy (Iraq-1) to ignore those casualties would be insane. Or even those injured even in the REMF units or in training for that matter. It happens in ALL Combat units and in most of their support units as well. It will continue until we remove the human element.

Response by CPT Richard Trione made Feb 12 at 2019 9:46 PM

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No. Permanent injuries in the Line of Duty are very serious and cause life long disabilities. Pain and suffering lasts forever. Not being able to ever drive again or have independence causes mental issues and low self worth.

Response by MSG Berry Sweeting made Feb 12 at 2019 9:47 PM

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Injuries occur at anytime, anyplace. Service connected means just that.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2019 9:49 PM

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Here’s how I look at,
In 20 years after I’m out of the military who am I going to care about more, how people look at me for getting disability or taking care of my family? Simple answer if you ask me

Response by SPC Diane Houston made Feb 12 at 2019 9:52 PM

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Yes

Response by SPC Diane Houston made Feb 12 at 2019 9:53 PM

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Yes

Response by CAPT Catherine Bauer made Feb 12 at 2019 9:55 PM

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I do not believe so.

Response by Sgt Malcolm Ware made Feb 12 at 2019 9:55 PM

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No they should not

Response by A1C Marg Lum made Feb 12 at 2019 9:57 PM

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NO, when someone is in a physical and emotional abusive relationship for years, this leaves you with physical and psychological problems which can impact you for the rest of your life. I served in the 1970s and the military protected the male serviceman and not the female serviceman.

Response by MSgt Scott Gaston made Feb 12 at 2019 10:01 PM

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Its just my opinion, but I have earned the right to give it! I was Combat Aircrew, KC-135A' s & R's (Boom Operator), a Security Specialist for my first 5 1/2 years, and a First Sergeant for my last 4 after being Grounded for my 4th Blown Ear Drum. Even though the reg states Combat or Combat Training Related injuries (mid-Air Refueling), I get the other Non Combat Status. I don't mind and neither should anyone else. I don't know about anyone else, But I was rated 100% Total and Permanent just for my heart at 58 with my first Heart Event being shortly after I retired (43 years old) and since have had 8 stent implantations, a regular Balloon Anglo Plasty, 2 Brachy Therapies, and a By-Pass. I am also categorized as SMC-S1 for greater than 60% above the 100%, Housebound, on SSA Disability (all by 58) and 2 years later Medicare and Tricare For Life at 60 (for 2 years now). Stop and think of what you've breathed, eaten, drank, environment around you, not to mention insect bites and accidents you've been through. You were a 2 (two) percenter who voluntarily stepped forward, raised your Right Hand and Pledged...To follow all orders of those appointed over you, Protect and Defend against all enemies, Foreign and Domestic "SO HELP YOU GOD"! Where were the other 98% YOU protected? You have every right to be proud no matter where or how long you served. You belong to an exclusive Group of Brother and Sisters in Arms that dates back to 1776. You are further recognized by the VA as their Doctors evaluated your injuries and declared you disabled, regardless of circumstance. Take care and thank you to all who have served. If you were like me you probably enlisted on a delayed enlistment (25 Mar 75) and went active just after High School Graduation (30May 75). You were just a kid with so many lessons and memories, some to cherish and some you'd like to forget if only you could. Be Proud, not guilty and support your fellow Brothers and Sisters in Arms. God Bless and thanks for your service!

V/R,
Scott A. Gaston, MSgt, USAF (Retired, 30 May 1975-30 Nov 1995)

Response by 1SG Melvin Spence made Feb 12 at 2019 10:01 PM

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Response by 1SG Melvin Spence made Feb 12 at 2019 10:03 PM

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No..

Response by LCpl Paul Lyons made Feb 12 at 2019 10:06 PM

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To bad the VA did feel the same way all of you do...... 3 yrs and counting.....

Response by Pvt Irvine Green made Feb 12 at 2019 10:07 PM

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I do not think one should feel bad about his or her disabillity.one could done faithful service serving the public over time and ended up with a form of disability due to stress.These people had been part of the community of hardworking and should be respected and honored.

Response by SPC Richelle Rice-Simms made Feb 12 at 2019 10:10 PM

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Absolutely not!

Response by 1SG Efrain Reyes Rodriguez made Feb 12 at 2019 10:14 PM

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They don't feel bad about being awarded for non combat compensation, they don't suffer the injury on combat, but they get it on the line of duty, and he needs to be recognize. He is suffering the same pain and wondering like a combat injury. No matter the place he being, he or she was doing a job for the system and for our Nation and in this case for the US ARMY.

Response by PFC Sandra Wade made Feb 12 at 2019 10:16 PM

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NO, although to be fair, with full disclousure, I have at times felt that way. Learning by way of counseling it;s o.k.

Response by PO3 Mike Pollard made Feb 12 at 2019 10:16 PM

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I served during the only period of peace in recent history (1981-1985). Reagan was president. The cold war was ending, and the U.S. was not at war with anyone (except Korea). After 5 years in appeals, I'm now classified Permanent & Total and receive TDIU. I'm rated 70% PTSD since my first C&P exam in November 2012. There's no space to convey the experiences that had the most profound effect on my entire life. For years I self medicated, but the symptoms returned with stress, and I'm never one to shy from a fight. People die in peace-time. Training accidents, car wrecks, domestic disputes... I've done autopsies on them all, and countless others. A few were close friends, one was a 3-week old baby whose birth I had also attended. I knew the family well. They're one of dozens & dozens of memories I'll never forget. The roots of my PTSD are twisted and strewn with people I knew, and worked with over a 20 year career in the Medical Laboratory.

PTSD is contagious. Ask any family member and they'll tell stories of strange behaviour, outbursts of anger, periods of crushing grief because my eyes saw it all. And in a few cases, I had to dissect cadavers that I had spoken to the day before. In one car wreck, it'd only been 20 minutes since he'd left, wrecked, and I was putting his body in the refrigeration.

That'll mess with your head.

Many of us feel shame surrounding the lives we lead, how we're treating family (mistreating), how could we survive when others didn't.

Relating experiences isn't easy. For me, the hardest hurdle I face is tomorrow. I begin immersion therapy at the VA. The object being that I'll be able to hold me 2 month old grandson without imagining an autopsy that took place 33 years ago.

That's PTSD.

The shame is unfounded. But it took me from 2013 to 2019 in therapy to accept it.

Response by SGT Thomas Seward made Feb 12 at 2019 10:21 PM

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Not in the least. I broke my neck in boot camp and went on to serve 16 years before I was injured and ended up leaving the Army. I never thought about it until 2013 after having had 4 strokes and my neurologist asked me when I had broken my neck. Seems as if it damaged my vertebral arteries and one built a clot that started releasing little pieces to my brain. It took 5 strokes before they found and fixed everything, but it’s now been 4 years since my last stroke and I am permanently damaged and will never be able to work again.
Just because it happened at FtMcClellan instead of Iraq doesn’t mean that the damage to my brain is any less.

Response by MSgt Wilson John made Feb 12 at 2019 10:28 PM

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I agree with you Col Christensen you are awarded compensation for service connected and not combated related injuries.

Response by MSgt James Lindsey made Feb 12 at 2019 10:29 PM

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No! I spent twenty years of my life in the military. I was prepared for combat but, I never made into direct action. I did spend time in Theater of Desert Shield and Storm, supporting Air Operations. I hurt my back lifting crates and received compensation. I also, injured my Knee, broke and ankle and developed arthritis in my hands and shoulders. As a Firefighter I was exposed to hazardous chemicals , smoke and some very gruesome sites. I developed PTSD due to this and many other exposures. I didn't find any reason to feel bad about being compensated for these. Since leaving the military I broke the other ankle, had a stroke which gave me seizures, diabetes and non-alcoholic fatty liver. So remember we all had jobs to do. Support, direct combat, medical and other services are all part of military life. Just because you were not on the front line does not make you any less deserving of benefits..

Response by SPC Robert Stephens Jr made Feb 12 at 2019 10:30 PM

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The ajudcators should be trained with the same thoughts. I was denied PTSD because I did not have combat experience. Their are mental health doctors at the VA Medical Facilities, that, do not thank that Veteran's can not get PTSD from Racial experances/treatment during active duty services.

Response by MSgt Joan Downey made Feb 12 at 2019 10:44 PM

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Response by CAPT Nalan Narine, MD made Feb 12 at 2019 10:50 PM

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Can anyone speak to Social Security disability benefits for retired Veterans.. I keep getting emails about applying for this. Is this a scam

Response by SFC Jon Rathke made Feb 12 at 2019 10:54 PM

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No way

Response by Sgt Byron Moore made Feb 12 at 2019 10:57 PM

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No they shouldn't you can still get injured as a support element that's behind the scenes

Response by PFC Don Gary made Feb 12 at 2019 11:06 PM

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Not at all if it is service connected.But no one will help me with my disability compensation.I had an injury to my back and was on bed rest for months and the VA keep on telling me that in my medical record there is an injury about me about a football injury in my high school days.Hell i never played football.I asked a few weeks ago to remove the entry but have never heard anything from The Marine Corps record office.I dont know how to go about getting help.I hope all the other vets dont run into what i have.Is there anybody that can help me.e-mail address is djgary55@ gmail.com or send me a a letter to my address at.Donald J Gary 235 Minerva st.Wooster OHIO 44691 I have been in pain since 1975.Lost jobs because of this.And i am on disability (SSDI) for back and heart.Well take any advice i can get.Thank-you.Pfc Donald Gary USMC 1973 -1976

Response by SSgt Randall Farr made Feb 12 at 2019 11:07 PM

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A definition of love is “doing that which is in the best interest of another”

Should we ever turn down love?

Response by PV2 Stanley Freier made Feb 12 at 2019 11:15 PM

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NOT AT ALL.. You we're under our flag. Our flag should cover you..

Response by A1C James Scott III made Feb 12 at 2019 11:23 PM

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Response by Sgt Stephen Neiley made Feb 12 at 2019 11:28 PM

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I filed a claim in late 1970's and was told no I was disqualified from my carear field for bad knees and was turned since then I have had over 18 knee operations and the last 2 total replacement. I did file again and since not received anything back. I got a copy of my Military medical records and someone had wrote way up on the top of the first page I had bad knees before entering. Here's a good one my own Father swore me in in JCS in the Pentagon and now they say he was doing a sin against the Military for knowing I had bad knees but when the Cheif Medical Officer at Andrews AFB gave me my physical before entering and I was fine. Now as you see I was in the Military with an Honorable Discharge and had a good good life going. Then I had my own Corp. and doing really well and developed Epilepsy and since been doing nothing but help America find something to control Epilepsy and the GOVERNMENT still doesn't give a thought of giving me THANK YOU or even thanks for being the first helping others. What would you do AMERICA?

Response by SR Patricia F Flowers-BaLL made Feb 12 at 2019 11:30 PM

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Response by MSG Steve Gallagher made Feb 12 at 2019 11:30 PM

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MSG(R) Steve L Gallagher
NO! In most cases those injuries occure during training. Training is made as realistic as possible and as safe as possible, but personnel still get hurt and even killed in training. So, to restate my earlier answer on "Should Veterans feel bad about being awarded and receiving VA disability compensation for non-combat related injuries?" NO!

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Feb 12 at 2019 11:33 PM

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Why? If you were injured doing your duty, there's no reason for any bad feeling. You are entitled to your nation's gratitude and the VA services they have provided. Believe me, those little things can add up to some real discomfort in later years. Take your benefits, and be proud of your service.

Response by SPC Bruce Hobson made Feb 12 at 2019 11:37 PM

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They regulations do not specify that an injury be combat related.

Response by CPL Toureno Taylor made Feb 12 at 2019 11:39 PM

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It makes me wonder, who would bring up this up as a reason for discriminating due to the time you served. I have heard and told Peace time is a time of preparation. The success achieved came only because of those who did their job. Your Watch is your Watch. Many of served and we dealt with what was before us. Injuries happened and some died, got injured during these training and practice. We failed to realize their sacrifices.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2019 11:47 PM

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My most was 94 B

Response by PV2 Ellen Wentzel made Feb 12 at 2019 11:49 PM

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Response by Capt James Skaggs made Feb 12 at 2019 11:51 PM

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Capt. James Skaggs shouldn't feel badly about getting disability.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2019 11:58 PM

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Hell no.
VA payments are for SERVICE CONNECTED disabilities. Not necessarily combat related disabilities.

You served your country. You deserve the payments. Take them and be proud to have served.

Anyone tells you otherwise, well, just send them our way. We'll Educate them :)

Response by Amn Claudis Daniels made Feb 13 at 2019 12:07 AM

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No! We were doing our duty for our COUNTRY! THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE...

Response by CPO Louie Delossantos made Feb 13 at 2019 12:28 AM

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Everyone who are deserving of their disability rating awarded to them by the VA be it combat or service connected or combination there of should not feel bad at all. If the application process was justly done in accordance with current regulations within the VA Disability Administration, all awardees must take this as life source of income if it is the only compensation from the injury sustained be combat or service connected.

Response by SPC Michael Budzinski made Feb 13 at 2019 12:36 AM

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But the doctors and regional office sometimes get someone who thinks they have been chosen by the VA Gods to make you feel like crap. The VA ruined my life, said not in budget for MRI on knee, put a brace on and hurt like hell. Went to Ortho Doc, said ordered and fitted for wrong leg take away immediately. The brace was for torn ACL and then fell fracturing ankle. Nightmare since, my story really sucks.

Response by MSgt Lawrence Taylor made Feb 13 at 2019 1:09 AM

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I came down with chronic hiccups in 1990 while I was deployed to Incheon Korea. They were persistent for 11 months straight. They went away for about a month they lasted for another two months, than they returned for a couple of weeks and left. I still get the hiccups for several days at a time every other month. I 2001 I retired after serving 25 honorable years. Hiccups cause me to have shortness of breath and it always offset my acid reflex, any advice. Since I can’t carry on a conversation, it slows down my chances to advance. Disability was denied.

Response by PO1 Don Roberts made Feb 13 at 2019 1:33 AM

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Nope. I served from 78-88 - all non combat. I served, I was there. Wasn't my fault we didn't go to war.

I was rated 20% for arthritis in my knees in 1989. In 2015 I had both replaced.

Response by PO2 Jun Caballero made Feb 13 at 2019 1:40 AM

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NO, all of us military are in a dangerous environment and always on the edge of disaster. Every one deserve a little respect. I spend 14 years in sea duty, spend all those years on 3 combat ships a (floating time bomb).

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2019 2:02 AM

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So here is my take on this. As Security Forces in the AF we are required, even at home station, to wear plates when on duty as well carrying our stand load of ammunition for dual arming as well as other required equipment on our person. When deployed that gear gets even heavier and can easily weigh another 20 pounds or more for 12 hr shifts. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not whining about this as it protects my butt, but that extra weight can take a toll on the body. I have back and joint issues that may not be entirely from carrying the gear but it certaintly hasn't done anything to make them any better either. Is this something I should be forced to suffer from the rest of life because I chose to serve my country for 20 years? I don't think so but we will see what the VA has to say when I get out in a another couple of years.

Response by PO1 Kent Johnson made Feb 13 at 2019 2:49 AM

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I originally did feel guilty until my step dad slapped me upside the head and said that if the US Coast Guard had better doctors that could have and should have taken care of my service oriented medical problems, I would not be as messed up as I am. So, i accept the VA compensation as payment for my pain, suffering and complications of my service. Thanx Dad.

Response by SSG Maria Cordoba made Feb 13 at 2019 3:16 AM

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It took me a long time to accept that I needed help, because of the shame some doctors ar the Va put you through, but I found a wonderful one that diagnosed me for the first time in 15 years, and told me there is nothing to be ashamed of .

Response by MSgt Bruce Shier made Feb 13 at 2019 4:37 AM

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Understand that VA compensation actually comes out of our retirement pension as non-taxed income for those of us who are retired. The monies are not above or beyond our pension, just tax free--a way of thanking us for our sacrifices. Looking at it this way, a non-retired service member is actually receiving these monies as a way of being recognized and not forgotten for your sacrifices. Take it, you've earned it.

Response by Maj William Johnson made Feb 13 at 2019 5:32 AM

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Absolutely, "NOT!" Benefits are what we as veterans earned. I think the reason many veterans or former service-members feel this way is because they have spent an entire career in the "SERVICE" of their country and/or others. So it is difficult "I" know speaking for myself to focus on "MYSELF" for a change.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2019 6:02 AM

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there is no requirement for this feeling. scrap it.

Response by PO3 Kerry Woodard made Feb 13 at 2019 6:05 AM

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It's not Worker's Compensation, it is disability.

Response by SFC Cynthia Eyer made Feb 13 at 2019 6:30 AM

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Absolutely NOT! No matter where you served, we are all a part of the team. When I would pack up entire units for the sand, the Soldiers always told me that I should never under estimate my part in combatting the enemy. Without my caring skills, they would be without their gear and incapable of completing the mission.

Response by LTC John Griscom made Feb 13 at 2019 6:34 AM

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How would you feel about to pay out of your pockets for the medical treatment for injuries you received in service?

Response by SSG Byron Howard Sr made Feb 13 at 2019 7:27 AM

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3 years Infantry, 1 year as a track mechanic, the 16 years as a combat photographer although I never saw combat. I supported other units from MP's, engineers, EOD, engineers the list goes on and on. I'm just neat all to hell I'm at 40% I worked like a civilian has never seen. Probably not as much as those who saw combat though. I don't feel bad one Bit.

Response by Jim Nabors made Feb 13 at 2019 7:28 AM

2019-02-13T07:28:16-05:00

Definitely not!

Response by PFC Roy Roddy made Feb 13 at 2019 7:34 AM

2019-02-13T07:34:39-05:00

No! military service is a stressful event in a persons life. change from regular life to military puts shock wave on one's way of thinking and servicing a country that trains you to kill another human being.

Response by CW2 Glen Caldwell made Feb 13 at 2019 7:43 AM

2019-02-13T07:43:10-05:00

No. Agent Orange is a good example. If you are injured or sick from doing duty in a hostile environment, you DESERVE VA disability compensation.

Response by MSG Ronnie Snider made Feb 13 at 2019 7:44 AM

2019-02-13T07:44:32-05:00

Not at all. There are many things that happpen from the kitchen to the hanger. The daily lives of soldiers are not always in an offices surrounded by papped walls. It takes a lot to be a soldier (etc.) and the toll it takes on ones body does not stop or start at the battlefield. Take the compensation knowing that you are being looked after for giving your all.

Response by SGT Bobby Mitchum made Feb 13 at 2019 8:05 AM

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no,in no way should a veteran feel ashamed to be receiving compensation for non combat related
injuries,you were serving your country in the capacity assigned to you when you were injured or the military discharged you for the injury ( ie automobile injury on the way to your base ) so if the VA says you are entitled to compensation then by all means accept it without shame !

Response by LT David Swithers made Feb 13 at 2019 8:08 AM

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Absolutely not! Most people who have not been there do not understand how dangerous going to sea on ships, operating aircraft, jumping out of aircraft, firing weapons, etc. actually is; even when no one is trying to kill you! More service members have been injured and killed in training accidents than in combat during the post 9/11 era. Being there and being ready to decisively destroy any threat as a deterrent to armed aggression is the true mission of the US military. When we have to actually go to combat it is because our politicians have failed and our enemies believe they can prevail. If you have been there and trained and served in that deterrent role you deserve every benefit this country can provide you. Never feel bad for serving or claiming the benefits your country owes you. And for those who served in the Viet Nam era and were despised and even physically attacked for wearing a uniform or even having a military haircut, the trauma is even worse. And remember, the service member who was removed from service for an injury and not allowed to make it to retirement, will never draw retirement pay, so any disability compensation is only a small consideration in comparison.

Response by PV2 Regan Forgette made Feb 13 at 2019 8:15 AM

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That would depend, in my case I have a drunken Doctor Sever a bundle of nerves In my left neck causing severe muscle paralysis of the entire upper left torso. I have been through over 30 procedures should try to correct the nerve damage as well as other damages caused by the original damage, such is a spinal fusions that has left me wheelchair-bound. Not to mention I enlisted on the eve of Desert storm with every intention on being an elite warrior as that is my nature, nothing short of the best!! So to answer the question directly yes in most cases yes. Willful misconduct is an entirely different subject and those are claims that should be disallowed.

Response by CW3 Bob Herron made Feb 13 at 2019 8:27 AM

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Yes. if the injury did not occur while on active duty.

Response by Cpl Tommy Starling made Feb 13 at 2019 8:32 AM

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HELL NO. I hurt my back unloading a truck full of flywheels. I was 18 the first time I ever hurt my back......now I wasn't in combat when it happen, but I was serving

Response by SPC Bob Bradley made Feb 13 at 2019 8:39 AM

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Although I was finally awarded a 10% disability,I had been told for about 40 years there was nothing for my loss of hearing and tennitus. Finally a V A nurse told me to persue it again. I did. And now receive 10%. I appreciate that but what about all the years we (me),were denied. Obviously,the loss of year has worsened. The ringing has been 24 hours a day for 50 plus years and has only gotten louder. Why no help on lost years?

Response by CPL Wiley Mitchem made Feb 13 at 2019 8:42 AM

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No, not at all you signed on the dotted line giving your life willingly, and deserve the same as anyone else

Response by PFC Telesforo Ramirez made Feb 13 at 2019 8:43 AM

2019-02-13T08:43:25-05:00

No comment

Response by PFC James Graham made Feb 13 at 2019 8:45 AM

2019-02-13T08:45:09-05:00

Not at All.

Response by PO1 Mark Freeden made Feb 13 at 2019 8:51 AM

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Response by PO3 Fred Sackett made Feb 13 at 2019 8:56 AM

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I was on a Aircraft Carrier Franklin D Roosevelt CVA 42 (1968-1971) that spent 9 months in the ship yard for over haul. During that time we had to chip and grind lead paint off the walls, ceilings and floors. They did not furnish us with any breathing apparatus to prevent us from breathing the particles of lead paint. For years I have suffered with Neuropathy in both of my legs. I don't have any feeling in the legs from the knees down. This is just one of the hidden disabilities that the government refuses to address.
Fred Sackett AO3

Response by Sgt John Lauer made Feb 13 at 2019 9:05 AM

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At a recent forum for VA Benefits in NC, there were over 1000 Veterans looking into issues with VA Compensation. Less than 10 Veterans had Combat Injuries. I'm not saying the veteran should feel bad about collecting VA Compensation but I do not agree with fact they they are eligible for these benefits. I don't know the total numbers of Cmbat but it seems it's one of the major issues in the backlog in treating veterans.

Response by SSgt Shawn Proctor made Feb 13 at 2019 9:12 AM

2019-02-13T09:12:29-05:00

I would say yes. You are still serving your country in places that may not be a combat zone or that the country is not in an active war. I would say that during the cold war in some duty stations the potential for conflict, and on occasion skirmishes did occur, did exist. So yes a compensated disability would be appropriate for an injury that occurred while at sea, in the air, or on the ground.

Response by SSG John Hale made Feb 13 at 2019 9:12 AM

2019-02-13T09:12:41-05:00

They should "NEVER" hesitate to file for and receive service connected compensation. Many of my family back to the civil war have been in combat in one place or another. When my time came I was assigned to the Nike missile system and it was not used in combat. I was seriously injured in the line of duty and am receiving comp. Nothing wrong with that, it is deserved as it is with many who were injured outside of combat. I have seen hundreds who were injured outside combat and many of these injuries are life threatening." if you were injured, please file for compensation, you have it due you".

Response by CPO Scott Bitner made Feb 13 at 2019 9:16 AM

2019-02-13T09:16:34-05:00

An injury that happened to you while in uniform during combat or non-combat is a service-connected disability. Nothing to feel bad about, you earned it!

Response by PO2 Edward O'Neill made Feb 13 at 2019 9:21 AM

2019-02-13T09:21:25-05:00

It would be fair and just if service members who suffer long term physical loss were entitled to VA care for their service caused disability, regardless of their annual income. It is absolutely immoral for the VA to ignore a service induced disability because of a vet's income status. Currently, if you have a service related disability and you have an income that is not very far above the poverty level, you are ineligible for VA assistance with your disability. NOT RIGHT!

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2019 9:27 AM

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3 yrs 4 mnths and 11 days with out ever seeing the USA! Tried to get me to extend my tour(S.E.Asia). FINALLY, 3 days after I "got Home" . . . my LIFE? Went to crap! Was the beginning of the Deaths of ALL my 'blood relatives"(except for my son) , , , including my "First Love since Jr. H.S." ect.etc . . . . Not enough room here for details . . . ." it goes on . . . . Mental/physical "problems . . . VA TRIED to deny my AO exposure(extensive) UNTIL . . . I FOUND a VA Document verifying my AO exposure . . . ended up with 40%. Refused to even 'consider' my PTSD CAUSED by my ISOLATION from my Family/friends/Loves . . . for Almost 4 years! . . . and the deaths in my family, etc., peripheral nephropathy . . . and ALL it's side effects(documented by VA documents . . . Private Dr suggested I NEEDED an MRI for evidence . . . VA Doctor was 'told to NOT EVEN GO THERE!' And this is just a "Snap-shot" of VA Denials . . . . I FINALLY FOUND a VA clinic LESS than 50 miles from my home(I dread even leaving my property, being with people(even family!) . . . We'll see HOW this 'NEW' VA Clinic/Hospital 'measures-up' Wish me Good Luck .. . and your prayers ('I,m 76 now . . . .

Response by SFC Ludovico L. Yanto Sr. made Feb 13 at 2019 9:42 AM

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SFC Ludovico L. Yanto Sr. Retired US Army
Yes, as in Vietnam we were exposed when they used Agent Orange on us. A lot of us were end up having heart Bypass. I had a quadruple heart bypass in 1994 and a single heart bypass in 2000 and It took more months before VA can decide agent orange could cause respiratory problems for Vietnam Veterans and also I have PTSD. I served in combat also in 1968-1970. Most of us were victims of agent orange I can't see why we deprive non-combat with VA Disability. What we should focus on How VA could serve us Vietnam Veterans efficiently and accountable. Let us not fighting among each other, we should be fighting the same common enemy the VA. Come on Brothers let's help each other. Let us not ego to go ahead of us.

Response by MSgt Vasil Santos made Feb 13 at 2019 9:53 AM

2019-02-13T09:53:11-05:00

No, Veterans should be proud of their service . The question is veterans with duties in a combat zone
who have retired from the military with 40% disability rating ? Who decides that there is no part of
their is combat related??

Response by CA Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2019 10:01 AM

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I feel the VA's disability ratings are too arbitrary. I'm 64 100% disabled thru SSA and 10% disabled service connected. The VA thinks I make too much money for two people from Social security (we get $1200 per month) yet the VA gives 100% service connected,for married couple, over $3000 per month. I feel 100% disability is 100% disability and should be treated equally but that's just me. I never served overseas in Nam but when I walked down the street in uniform I was spat on and called "baby killer" the same as those that served abroad. That was just the climate of the early 70's. Those of us that served stateside were more than willing to do our part to support our brothers and sisters overseas and would have willing gone there if called to do so. I just wish the VA would remember the saying "some gave all but all gave some" and treat those of us remaining a bit more fairly.

Response by 1SG Dale Cantrell made Feb 13 at 2019 10:16 AM

2019-02-13T10:16:56-05:00

No , all Vets signed the same check , every troop faced different situations at different places and different times, some in combat some in peaceful areas, all troops injured, whatever, on duty., qualities, be proud to serve

Response by CPT Michael Sammon made Feb 13 at 2019 10:43 AM

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No. If a physical or psychological issue/injury is the result of active duty deployment, it's only right for the U.S. Armed Forces to take care of all injuries determined to result from that deployment.

Response by SGT Fredrick Ramm made Feb 13 at 2019 10:45 AM

2019-02-13T10:45:07-05:00

I've gone on with quote and verse about what happened to me, in a non-combat situation, just putting up with the fall out, from Vietnam, in West Germany and being a 20 year old Veteran...and you know what? No body, wants to hear it, but find a brother, who's been down the same path, on the street, and you will have a conversation, for about an hour. Funny, there is a book written on it (1972) Army In Anguish by The Washington Post and nobody in The VA, or any Veterans Support Group, nor Professional Psychologists...never met a one who read it yet!

Response by Sgt Robert Samek made Feb 13 at 2019 11:17 AM

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No, they should not feel bad. If injuries are related to their job whether combat or not, they should be compensated.

Response by PFC Juliana Stines made Feb 13 at 2019 11:31 AM

2019-02-13T11:31:28-05:00

Vets shouldn't feel bad about VA disability for service-connected, non-combat injuries. I just wish the combat vets didn't badmouth & treat us like crap, saying we don't deserve it.

Response by SPC Wallace Scisson made Feb 13 at 2019 11:43 AM

2019-02-13T11:43:13-05:00

Yes they should they are part of the team. They should be treated without any discrimination.

Response by Amn Robert Clifford made Feb 13 at 2019 11:50 AM

2019-02-13T11:50:02-05:00

No! If they served, they served.

Response by SP5 Joe Haggerty made Feb 13 at 2019 11:51 AM

2019-02-13T11:51:29-05:00

WI was refused compensation for not being in combat, lost hearing working in data prossestor while serving in France

Response by SGT Don Engel made Feb 13 at 2019 12:03 PM

2019-02-13T12:03:30-05:00

Absolutely not. Injuries (and death) can occur during training activities. Anyone who has served this country should be entitled to disability compensation.

Response by MAJ Bruce Davie made Feb 13 at 2019 12:08 PM

2019-02-13T12:08:17-05:00

Absolutely NOT! Your time in service was most likely spent in training. So we’re in Graf on an exercise (Reforger), you slip off your vehicle and are injured.
How about your peer is involved in an accident and dies. Does that mean no military honors? Same difference to me. MAJ.

Response by SMSgt Alex Medina made Feb 13 at 2019 12:22 PM

2019-02-13T12:22:36-05:00

Hell NO!!! A lot of service men/women received injuries from working on "government" equipment or during military duty time. A lot of military folks DID NOT go into combat areas!! I'm at 50% without "direct" combat action! And I'm getting ready to request an increase on 3 already approved disabilities and submit a disability for loss of hearing from working on Air Force airplanes!!

Response by LT David Petty made Feb 13 at 2019 12:23 PM

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I have serious issues with getting 100% permanent and total VA disability payments as well as social security disability. I never have to work again if I don't want to, but in many ways it has destroyed my life. It was great at first, but 3 years later I can't stand myself. I keep telling myself I did it for the greater good, to take care of my family, but it makes me sick sometimes. I have actually considered calling the VA and Social Security and telling them to stop paying me. If it wasn't for my family I probably would. It's fucking shameful and I can't fucking stand it.

Response by SPC Casey Ashfield made Feb 13 at 2019 12:32 PM

2019-02-13T12:32:37-05:00

I USED to feel bad about filing for disability. At one of my first civilian jobs I was working with another former military guy. 24 years retired 1SG MP. And he could tell I was more broken in 8 years than he was in 24. He gave me the contact info for a VA claims representative.

Response by SPC David Stremer made Feb 13 at 2019 12:32 PM

2019-02-13T12:32:57-05:00

There are veterans receiving disability for non-service injuries. Tell them that is not legal.

Response by SGT Sidney Cox made Feb 13 at 2019 1:06 PM

2019-02-13T13:06:14-05:00

No one should fill bad about anything the VA does for us and that includes disability rather the injury's are service connected or not, if you serve this grate country than you should be able to take advantage of all the benefits the VA has to offer, we have earn that right

Response by PO2 Cy Granzella made Feb 13 at 2019 1:11 PM

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Response by SGT Daniel Ferrell Sr. made Feb 13 at 2019 1:20 PM

2019-02-13T13:20:42-05:00

SGT D.FERRELL I Applied for the injury on my back, and only received a 0% rating. I do get health care benefits tho. I had to file for Social security benefits and was denied several time even with a lawyer. so I gave up. and after the 5 years were over from my last employment, I tried again and was granted only S.S.I because the time from my last employment had expired. I now have to feel like a deadbeat because the SSA refused to give me what i earned as a gainfully employed man for over 25 year, and cant even qualify for a VA pension which sucks, due to I am disabled and can not stand or bend for long periods of time without experiencing a great deal of pain. I served in the military U.S.Army for 6 active years and another 4 years in inactive reserve. I Ran a platoon as an E-5 Sargent and my platoon was selected twice Platoon of the month. I was an excellent Solder in the Field and in Garrison but cant get a dime from the V.A. I have to act like an idiot and Cry Crazy before I can get approved? this is unfair to all the hard working and honest veterans out there with an honest injury that doesn't show right off.

Response by PFC Edgar Taylor made Feb 13 at 2019 1:31 PM

2019-02-13T13:31:04-05:00

I have heard and seen the messages from veterans near and far, and I also heard and seen veterans who served decades ago and from recent and current events in time. I fully approve of veterans not feeling bad or ashamed at getting these benefits since when YOU become a soldier and sign your name on that line to serve the Armed Forces of the United States, you then become part of a fraternity of people who is special in nature because of the ultimate sacrifice!....so YES I believe ANY veteran should be allowed to be awarded or receive benefits from the government to take care of themselves and also of their families in need. For we give up a lot to put ourselves in "harm's way" to protect this country as well as other installations around the world for democracy and humanity! I always believe in fighting for the people who cannot fight for themselves and giving back to them what they have lost...."DIGNITY"....I feel that it's only right that the government I sworn to protect and uphold it's values should at least see to it that I'm taken care of duribg and after my service to it.....

Response by SFC Tommie Young made Feb 13 at 2019 1:39 PM

2019-02-13T13:39:47-05:00

I don't think they should. Because some of the juries were caused by activities while the person was in he military combat or not.

Response by SGT Mark Rhodes made Feb 13 at 2019 2:06 PM

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I think this is a stupid question. Regardless of combat injury or non-combat injury if a veteran has a disability they should not feel guilty because it didn’t happen in combat. I’m rated at 90% all non-combat injuries and I don’t and will not ever feel less about myself. I have PTSD from a non-combat accident. How can anyone think it’s acceptable for someone who has a combat injury is any worse than someone else’s injuries.

Response by SFC Scott Higgins made Feb 13 at 2019 2:06 PM

2019-02-13T14:06:44-05:00

No, if the disability is service connected, no veteran should feel bad for receiving disability compensation. There are many instances where someone can be disabled in non-combat roles. These can be in warfare training exercises, personnel movements, physical fitness training or just doing your daily job. Just because bullets didn't happen to be whizzing by when they were injured doesn't mean they are not entitled to compensation. They did their job; we should thank them for it!.

Response by SGT Ken Allen made Feb 13 at 2019 2:19 PM

2019-02-13T14:19:24-05:00

By NO Means NO they should Not feel bad about being awarded.

Response by MSgt Albert de La Rosa made Feb 13 at 2019 5:05 PM

2019-02-13T17:05:46-05:00

Feel bad ...No! If is service lated why should be denied? Some continue to serve even while being sick for a crippling disease which not their fault for it. Some coninue to serve for 5, 10 or more years when it is extremely difficult for them to get up in the morning, yet they make to work at 7AM while in pain.

Response by CN Eddy Kaytis made Feb 13 at 2019 5:38 PM

2019-02-13T17:38:15-05:00

No, proud to have served.

Response by CPO Alvin Allen Jr made Feb 13 at 2019 6:02 PM

2019-02-13T18:02:46-05:00

if perhaps in support of war related troops------no!

Response by SPC Martin Brody made Feb 13 at 2019 6:30 PM

2019-02-13T18:30:09-05:00

We gave The United State at least 2 years of our lives. At the time we were available and although we never went into combat, friends of mine deployed to Lebanon in the 1958 crisis.

Response by SGT Cynthia Donoho made Feb 13 at 2019 6:38 PM

2019-02-13T18:38:34-05:00

NO!

Response by CPL Garry Varga made Feb 13 at 2019 6:42 PM

2019-02-13T18:42:26-05:00

Of course not, when an individual raises their right hand and swears loyalty and fidelity to our constitution and government we in effect hand over our future and our well being to their safe keeping.Accidents happen, exposure to danger happens both during training and service to some and they are affected for the rest of their lives. For this they should be compensated and be treated medically to the fullest extent.

Response by LTC David Brown made Feb 13 at 2019 6:59 PM

2019-02-13T18:59:24-05:00

I tell civilian friends that being in the military is dangerous. Moving equipment, generators, etc and the daily grind of hauling equipment etc. , then when you get into combat arms the risk increases exponentially. If you are injured in the military that results in a disability you deserve disability benefits.

Response by CPL John Hickey made Feb 13 at 2019 7:13 PM

2019-02-13T19:13:27-05:00

No, not in anyway. When one is serving their Country, getting lifelong injuries that follow one all of their lives , it does not matter how, where, or under the circumstances the injury’s occurred. I’ve experienced Service Members badly hurt in life fire exercises. The injury is the same.

Response by PO2 Honest Injun Joe made Feb 13 at 2019 7:28 PM

2019-02-13T19:28:12-05:00

No, they should not. As pointed out, it is service NOT combat related compensation and there are a tremendous number of armed forces personal injured in non-combat and/or in peacetime time. They are all service related regardless of when, where or how and the injuries are just as real and debilitating.

Response by PO2 Honest Injun Joe made Feb 13 at 2019 7:30 PM

2019-02-13T19:30:35-05:00

No, they should not. Service injuries are just are real and debilitating regardless of when, where or how. Compensation is based on service not combat.

Response by Pvt Patrick Bryan made Feb 13 at 2019 9:57 PM

2019-02-13T21:57:09-05:00

Not if the accident itself was happened during ones military service, Your Gov property as long as your enlisted, 24, 7.

Response by Amn Andrew Schnatz made Feb 13 at 2019 10:25 PM

2019-02-13T22:25:29-05:00

I want to thank all service men and ladies for serving this great country God Bless you all. If it wasn't for the VA I would be dead now or crippled for life. God bless them all

Response by PVT John Daley made Feb 14 at 2019 6:31 AM

2019-02-14T06:31:12-05:00

Eye surgery. Going bad

Response by Cpl J.b. Treece made Feb 14 at 2019 10:05 AM

2019-02-14T10:05:58-05:00

not at all

Response by Sgt Norm Demers made Feb 14 at 2019 10:30 AM

2019-02-14T10:30:00-05:00

No shame because it was not their fault they were not ordered to combat. They served just as honorably doing support and logistic functions.

Response by Cpl James R. " Jim" Gossett Jr made Feb 14 at 2019 5:04 PM

2019-02-14T17:04:49-05:00

There are some instance where a vet might not be in Firefights. I know of several bases that were Hit with Rockets and /Or Mortars People were injured, but received NO Recognition In a few other cases People may have been Hit by Shrapnel but didn't go to a CORPSMAN, again NO recognition. And what about the Thousands with PTSD (Confirmed) No Recognition... And even some that may have been in a Firefight, but because they were Not In THE BUSH, NO RECOGNITION...

Response by Cpl James R. " Jim" Gossett Jr made Feb 14 at 2019 5:10 PM

2019-02-14T17:10:50-05:00

You don't have to be in the BUSH to get HIT. Rockets and Mortars injure on even on SUPPORT BASES PTSD Can occur anywhere! Again these circumstances are NOT RECOGNIZED!

Semper Fi

Response by SPC David Giffen made Feb 15 at 2019 2:24 AM

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People get just as injuries in training accidents as they do inn combat.People get injured during a bad landing during a jump. I had a patient get a convex fracture to the skull because a hook from a crane hit the guy in the head. They still can get compensation.

Response by 2LT Earl Dean made Feb 16 at 2019 12:22 PM

2019-02-16T12:22:04-05:00

I wanted to add more that I have learned to this post. As you know from my last post I think of Veteran that gets hurt weather it's combat-related or not deserves to be a member of the VA and deserves to be taken care of. VA has been treating me since 1992 when I was put out of service for post-traumatic stress disorder and a number of other things.

Response by SGT Mary Martel made Feb 21 at 2019 1:16 AM

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Why is this even a question? There are SM who have been injured off-duty, doing things like mountain biking that get MED-BOARDED and compensated financially. Why would any Soldier need to feel bad about being compensated for a non-combat injury? Is an injury that wasn't received in combat somehow less debilitating/painful? I think not.

Response by PFC Carmen A Lebron-Ralat made Feb 22 at 2019 9:56 AM

2019-02-22T09:56:41-05:00

For years I was feeling bad/ashamed on this issue due a despective comment toward Veterans here in Puerto Rico (from a person I considered a friend). But a conversation with a fellow Veteran at work and most recently Lt Col John Cristensen comment on this site help me to take away that feeling. Now I'm on my proccess of evaluation for my compansation all do it's happen during my basic training. Thank you Lt Col John Christensen. Carmen A Lebron-Ralat

Response by LCpl Dennis Regan made Feb 25 at 2019 9:03 AM

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No. Some injuries in the course of service ARE non-combat, but ARE service-related. The service IS responsible, by commission or omission, due to the service-related aspect. They are not responsible for my broken back (hypothetical) due to surfing off-duty, but for the same back injury due to helo-rappelling.

Response by CW3 Bob Herron made Feb 27 at 2019 10:44 AM

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No they should not. Anyone who served in combat, should be entitled to compensation. However combat related injuries should have priority over non combat related injuries. But if you were and are willing to serve your country without burning our flag, yes, do not feel ashamed...

Response by PFC Winfred Booker made Mar 1 at 2019 1:38 AM

2019-03-01T01:38:35-05:00

No , they should not

Response by SA Ronald Moss made Mar 2 at 2019 11:35 PM

2019-03-02T23:35:11-05:00

No because they were still serving and willing to give their life or serious injury in battle for the country, and non-combat injuries do happen that were accidents and not caused deliberately, so why should they feel bad that their injury wasn't caused by an IED, bullet, etc.
It's not like they wanted to become disabled. I wanted to make a career in the USCG, but due to a peacetime injury was retired on disability after 1 year and 11 months active service. I am now rated by the VA at 110% disability, 80% Compensable, and 100% unemployable due to service connection. I was injured on October 27, 1962 and due to age (I'll be 75 on 04/30/2019) and deterioration of injuries a barely able to get round. When I enlisted, nothing was on the papers stating that any injuries incurred outside of combat would not be eligible rated for any VA disability compensation. I even wanted to stay in during my physical board of evaluation and would have been willing to serve at a non physically demanding position such a a desk job, but was denied that option and was given temporary retirement, than later full retirement for disability. Semper Paratus. I took my oath, and never have I considered myself to be released from it. I'm a Coastie til death and in Heaven. Period!!!

Response by PV2 Glen Lewis made Mar 10 at 2019 3:29 AM

2019-03-10T03:29:43-04:00

No.

Response by MSG Vincent Rainier made Mar 21 at 2019 8:07 AM

2019-03-21T08:07:54-04:00

No way They were sent to other county somenever returned.They served their country they should not be ashamed. It would help if the Dr. did not treat the vets as they were faking every thing some do most do not. I have listen to some of the Dr., Or PA tell the patience that they were hurt in a war and having pomblems too. How I feel they are there to get help . not listen to their problems.
To get help you have to almost beg for it. That not right either.
They need help with every thing they have done for the our country.

Response by PO1 Mike Wallace made Apr 19 at 2019 10:27 PM

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While I have a problem with people being capable of serving right up to their discharge date yet the day after their discharge they file for and receive disability. I do not understand or support anyone being looked down on because of the duty they were performing at the time of disability.

Response by MSgt Scott Gaston made Apr 30 at 2019 5:49 AM

2019-04-30T05:49:49-04:00

For some reason I'm showing minus 3 twice on my responses to this post even though I voted up (since I'm 100% T&P for my Heart and additionally greater than 60% for other service related injuries and SMC-S, House Bound, SSA Disability, and Medicare by between 58 and by 60 years old). So the rate downs aren't mine, but possibly someone who didn't agree with mme supporting the post. By the way, I'm getting ready to have my Left ear drum replaced since I blew and had it replaced 4 times leading to my grounding from Combat Aircrew. You damn sure don't have to be in combat to hurt yourself or get killed in training missions. I've been there to see it first hand! 1 friend who was flying low level in a B-1 with the terrain avoidance system off and into a Mountain, another during one of my 2 mid air collisions at Angels 23 over the Gulf of Mexico, and a suicide while a contractor at Bagram that I would have never foreseen!

Response by SP5 Arthur Ben Ephraim made Apr 30 at 2019 2:56 PM

2019-04-30T14:56:09-04:00

Salient issue-- I used to blow myself up with c4 as a stress relief joke in order to help a fellow Tank Commander. He would flash back sometimes and wake up choking his wife, but toss off a 1/4 stick TNT equivalent c4 and throw yourself on the ground and he would split his sides laughing. IMHO, if you shot Grandma or a buddy by mistake or some whack job capped you with a LAW on the moving range or busted your PLT LDR's spine in half, shoved him into a foot locker, and tossed him out the third floor barracks window in order to protect mil spec drug ring or brewed-up a fellow Tank by 105mm through rear turret wall in order to protect a mil spec drug ring-- whatever-- put in for your disability. Not everyone is Sergeant York, 82 INF DIV WW I Pall Mall TN.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made May 1 at 2019 10:54 PM

2019-05-01T22:54:02-04:00

Sp4 Byron Skinner…This is an absurd question. I don't know what the RH requirements are now but you actually has to have been wounded while in contact with the enemy. Every REMF with an ingrown toenail who convinced a VA claims clerk that he had to walt to much while in service because the Mess Hall and PX were to far from his/her quarters…Personally since those in the military now pay into Social Security now that all non-combat injures could be handled through Social Security. Lets face it 40% of the Army doesn't deploy out of CONUS the only difference between the military and a 9-5 on the outside is that the soldier doesn't have to decide what to wear to work and the get a free lunch every. By the DoD's won estimate only .9% 0f 1% of Soldiers are nor engaged in combats part of their job. They doe not go outside the wire and are expected to kill everybody the encounter. It perfect ally naturally that these people don't like seeing Americans and make it a point to kill them before they get killed. That 1% of soldiers is of the whole Army and 40% of them can expect to be killed or sustain a life changing wound.The other 99% of soldiers have a lower death an injury rate the many civilian occupations such as Coal Mining or working on the electrical grid. There is absolutely no reason why these soldiers should get the same consideration for disability pay out as the 19 year old that volunteer to go out find the enemy and engage him. With the 11B MOS now open to females the Gender excuse has disappeared, women have the same chance as males of voluntary getting themselves killed.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2019 10:30 AM

2019-05-05T10:30:57-04:00

The key word is on the JOB. I know of no one that picked the job site location except for those of us who volunteered for second tours in Viet Nam and some who also volunteered for other campaigns. It takes each of us to care for all of us.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made May 5 at 2019 10:48 AM

2019-05-05T10:48:32-04:00

Tell anyone who chaistied you to call me.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2019 11:40 PM

2019-05-05T23:40:38-04:00

I'm on the fence with this. I received a very serious hearing injury in active duty in the mid 1980s when someone started an M60A3 while I had the grills open. They did hearing testing and everything and told me not to worry, it will come back.
It never did, and I never have any thought to a disability. It's been a pain going thru life like this, but hasn't adversely affected my ability to support myself.

Response by Cpl George Goodwin made May 7 at 2019 8:08 AM

2019-05-07T08:08:57-04:00

No one with a legitimate claim should feel ashamed. If the military broke you they should take care of you. I have an issue with those getting a medical retirement also getting VA compensation.

Response by LTC David Howard made May 11 at 2019 5:07 PM

2019-05-11T17:07:14-04:00

No veteran should feel the least bit bad about any valid disability compensation. Combat versus non-combat is irrelevant as long as it was service connected or service aggravated. I suffered permanent hearing loss and related issues from direct exposure to artillery during my year in Vietnam. For this I was awarded 10% disability. I was in the 101st Airborne, serving in a combat theater of operations. Was this combat related or not? Doesn't matter. It was determined to be service related. FWIW, the amount I get monthly from the V.A. is minimal, and that dollar amounted is deducted from my military retired pay, so the only "gain" I receive is that this small amount is not taxable income. I don't feel in any way ashamed about this.

Response by CPT Paul Weiss made May 13 at 2019 1:32 PM

2019-05-13T13:32:11-04:00

The law states a veteran is entitled to receive disability compensation for any injury or disease "incurred or aggravated" in the line of duty during active military service, and which can currently be diagnosed by physician.
"Any" means "any", and no one should feel any less worthy for receiving same.

Response by PO2 Don Schwebel made May 15 at 2019 8:59 PM

2019-05-15T20:59:33-04:00

Ptsd is rated non combat. Why

Response by CPT Tommy Curtis made May 17 at 2019 8:46 PM

2019-05-17T20:46:11-04:00

Response by SPC Anna Larson made May 22 at 2019 1:12 AM

2019-05-22T01:12:03-04:00

I'm a non combat service connected disability compensation recipient. I was injured while working with a horse that was a patient at our vet clinic. I was picked up and tossed several feet causing injuries to my neck and back. The country was "in between" conflicts at the time. In addition I also have a root canal file stuck in a tooth that was left it by an Army dentist. I have chronic tooth aches and sinus infections attributed to this issue.
Not exactly the usual things people get compensated for, but why should I "feel bad" about injuries caused during my time on duty just because it didn't happen in a combat zone?

Response by SPC Brian Mason made May 24 at 2019 12:48 AM

2019-05-24T00:48:34-04:00

No. If you've rucked almost all over creation in full Battle along with your MOS gear(Medic for me) which is at least another 30lbs, then we're guaranteed lower back problems with pain at a minimum for the rest of our lives.
I got an LB injury and a minor concussion while in the Army, non-combat related but also on a deployment with the later one happening CONUS and injuring my back again. The past few weeks I've had to use a heat/massaging vibrating mat on my bed a few times a day and when I go to sleep to help reduce the pain.
They can have their opinion but they don't know what each of us is living with. I did NOT get a Purple Heart. I do not feel cheated or deserving of one since I did not meet the requirements. I'd rather have a fixed/new spinal cord but that's not realistic.

Response by PO2 Danny Ward made May 27 at 2019 9:20 AM

2019-05-27T09:20:32-04:00

YES!!! Ashamed would be less politically correct, but if it fits, wear it. But you say non-combat related. I know of a Marine that was "given" 100% disability and is in better shape and more active than me. One young lad that I know, was awarded 70% disability for being injured while playing basketball and he got his shoulder injured. Service related? Combat related? NO WAY. Many of us are not even told that we could apply for service/combat related injuries. Tinnitus is one that I lived with for over 30 years and did not know that it was a combat injury, duh! Being informed is what has been withheld for tool long!!

Response by PO1 Todd McMillin made May 27 at 2019 12:09 PM

2019-05-27T12:09:18-04:00

As a twenty year plus NAVY veteran, I don't feel bad at all for getting Disability C&P from the VA; it's no different then "Workman's Comp" for service connected injuries. Just because we didn't get injured in direct action combat doesn't mean that we didn't get injured in the line of duty. I'm 70%+ for back injuries, PTSD, and other health related issues. Everything that is in my service record and medical record was because of doing something that was dangerous or harmful which our command ignored and bypassed safety regulations to get the job done. The universal theme of "Arrogance and Stupidity" are common problems; since our upper leadershit tread the enlisted as disposable cogs that can be easily replaced vs actually bothering to understand the over all cost of time, training, and ability that goes into getting people into those positions in the first place. Which is why the shift in safety protocols happened after I left since several SENIOR NCOS including myself documented the failures of leadership in safety and the correct measures were put in place to prevent future EPIC fuck ups by the Khaki Corps that often were the root cause of 80% of the incidents to begin with.

In fact in two cases I almost got killed because of other people's stupidity and Maintenance Control's near criminal negligence in pushing people beyond mandated safety guidelines. Had I died it would have been "Oh, well!" and investigation and then another body into the grinder to be a replacement. If anything the failures of leadership by CO downward in following orders is why accidents happen and Operation Tempos turn into accidents because of shitty training and cutting corners. As an enlisted instructor; I grilled into my newbies "Safety first" vs "What they want!" to make sure they come back with their limbs vs nearly loosing mine. I saw enough non-direct combat related deaths from incompetence and recklessness. I wasn't going to be on that KIA roster from someone else's stupidity and arrogance.

We PROPERLY TRAIN to FIGHT to AVOID FUCK UPS at all levels the problem is that shitty leadership above us is often times pushed by those who think we can be "miracle workers" and don't have any grasp about real time tables and logistics are running the show. They're so disconnected from the real world it's like Jeff Bezos and the daily Amazon day laborer in comparison. The problem is the levels of disconnections that happen and myriad of idiots in between who want to please the boss at the cost of the workers lives... This is why we have such a shitty return rate of progress that has pushed for the change to alternative choices for future warfare of robotics vs humans in combat in all branches of the military.

Response by Amn Cassandra Lynn made May 31 at 2019 1:46 AM

2019-05-31T01:46:41-04:00

I wasn't in combat but I do receive service related disability compensation. I have MST/PTSD (Military Sexual Trauma). Which I went through with my chain of command overseas. At first, I didn't get the help I needed and my family suffered for it, along with my addictions. I felt guilty for using the VA resources until my uncle (he was a Air Force veteran also) told me that I earned it. I started getting the help I needed in 2010. I thank God every day for that help. Because without it, I would have been another veteran suicide. So thank you again to the VA for helping me.

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Jun 3 at 2019 12:02 AM

2019-06-03T00:02:33-04:00

No way, you incurred the disability on the job, you should be compensated for your loss.

Response by SGT Joseph Yost made Jun 5 at 2019 9:33 PM

2019-06-05T21:33:58-04:00

NEVER! If it was awarded to you, you earned it and it was not given lightly. A Veteran should never feel ashamed or bad about receiving what was duly earned.

Response by PO1 Richard Norton made Jun 6 at 2019 2:36 PM

2019-06-06T14:36:00-04:00

The VA is responsible for what ever is wrong with you when you leave service that wasn't wrong with you when you joined. Why should any veteran feel bad about taking advantage of a benefit that you are entitled to.

Response by 1LT Timothy Kahn made Jun 6 at 2019 4:35 PM

2019-06-06T16:35:52-04:00

No vet with a service connected injury should feel “bad” about it. That is the reason we have a Veterans Administration, whose is there to take care of all Vets.

Response by SPC Ted Maltzie made Jun 8 at 2019 7:18 AM

2019-06-08T07:18:19-04:00

I did feel.... almost ashamed, to finally, after 28 years, make a VA claim for my disability. I blew out my knee in A.I.T. and shredded my lateral meniscus. The Army Surgeon just removed all of it. Many years later, after several additional surgeries on my work insurance, I was in a position of not having any insurance, and that damn knee was acting up again. (It finally got to the point where I now have a TKR.) Anyway, I went to the DAV and it was a no brainer. Service connected and into the system I went. I was even chastised for not coming in sooner. You see, I was a Cold War Era Soldier, and in my my mind all those guys that served from WWII through Vietnam, and those that stepped up since 9/11, (BTW thank you, post 9/11 guys, for taking the battle to the enemy. As a native NYer, and of course, American, I really appreciate what you have done.) had WAY more right to those services than I did. I struggled with it, and even the current trend of thanking me for my service for a long time. At some level I still do. Yes, I am proud of my service. I just know in my heart that so many have given so much more than I ever did.

Response by SPC Aj Yokley made Jun 19 at 2019 9:43 AM

2019-06-19T09:43:29-04:00

I was injured during peace time on a airborne operation. It was many years after I left the service that I applied for and received my benefits. Back when I got out, I wasn’t told to apply for my VA benefits and it cost mean the long run. I always thought that you had to be injured or wounded in combat to receive benefits. I was wrong! Because of the time it took to file my benefits, the VA has questioned my injuries that I had in the Army and tried to make it look like it was because I became a police officer after I got out. My hearing disability was because I had my ear drum ruptured while in the Army. They asked me what types of weapons I fired as a police officer. Lucky for me there was documentation on my ear drum. But to answer the question. No! A person that sacrificed their body while serving their country should not feel bad about it. It’s no different than receiving Workers Comp when being injured in a civilian job. The only difference between the two is the VA benefits last longer!

Response by CPT Hugh Albright made Jun 20 at 2019 9:03 AM

2019-06-20T09:03:09-04:00

Heck no it took me 35 years to come to that conclusion and I kick myself for those lost years of possible compensation

Response by SGT Steven Torstenson made Jun 20 at 2019 5:53 PM

2019-06-20T17:53:36-04:00

An Anthrax vaccine is combat related in my opinion. We preach Integrity, when will the truth come out?

Response by TSgt Dale Ingle made Jun 22 at 2019 7:26 PM

2019-06-22T19:26:03-04:00

No, I was struck by lightning 32 years ago during flight training, both my flight parter and myself spent 7 days in the hospital, they denied my claim.

Response by SGT Fredrick Ramm made Jul 9 at 2019 4:02 PM

2019-07-09T16:02:23-04:00

This is a subject, near and dear to my heart...figuratively and literally. Not to bore any one with a rehash about the Problematic U.S. Army Europe of the end of The Vietnam Era and what I and many other's endured, nor coming home to a Self Indulgent Society that could not have gave a flying screw to the moon about how they were free from Communism or a 20 year old vet, who most thought I was a freak...Read Audie Murphy's Bio
Four years out, I had problem, couldn't sleep, nervousness, anxiety...this was 1976, before they coined a term PTSD. Paid, out of my own pocket, at $4.56 an hour, for a Hypnotist/Psychologist, to pull me out of "this, then, situation!", because I heard all the horror stories at The VA and wanted to keep this private. Always, wondered what happened to me in 1976 and over the years, I read every thing I could get my hands on about PTSD, when it was finally put out there in the public eye.
I had a relapse, in 2006, 30 years to the day. I thought I would be laughed out of a Psychologist's office, if I told them about this, plus show them the amount of published stories about The Problems in U.S. Army Europe that where just surfacing in the press...even one book concerning a son of a very famous General, who was a Vietnam Era General himself and The VA shrinks, who looked like they never wore a uniform, didn't want to hear it.
Eight years ago, I had a prostate removal, By-pass heart surgery, and second corporate take over in the same company, all in 30 days. I felt more comfort, with that tube sticking out my chest the following day, after that heart surgery, than I felt going through "that, then, situation!" I had back in 1976...please, never again and this was over a multiple non-combat situation. My Claim has been up before The Appeal Board, for 3 years, it will probably be some circular file soon.

Response by SGT Franklin Mays made Jul 14 at 2019 5:55 PM

2019-07-14T17:55:11-04:00

I’m glad I saw this post. I have suffered guilt for almost twenty five years. I was only a cadet when I hit my head at Airborne School and spent 9 days in a Ft Benning Hospital. I was only a cadet when it happened. (I had just completed Advanced Camp and CTLT). There is not a day that goes by that I don’t think about my SNAFU.
I had friends who were Lts and Captains in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. I let them down by not serving with them.

Response by PO1 Phillip Finch made Jul 19 at 2019 8:36 AM

2019-07-19T08:36:23-04:00

You are right. It is service-connected not combat-connected. If your condition was caused by an accident or exposure while in service you are entitled to compensation.

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Aug 2 at 2019 9:25 PM

2019-08-02T21:25:41-04:00

No. I don't. I went on sick call once when I was having runny bowels shortly after I arrived in Germany. The Chief running sick call thought I was bullshitting, accused me of shirking duty and sent me back. From then on I only went on sick call when I was ordered to do so. I even skipped my annual physicals and almost got in trouble for that. But those runny bowels never recovered and I was sending nothing but blood into the toilet. I took terminal and went home like that. No outgoing physical either. A nurse signed our forms because of course we all wanted to go home at the end of our tours and we looked okay. But my folks took me to a doctor who referred me to a GI specialist. He tested me and diagnosed me with Crohn's Disease about a week before my ETS date. I refuse to feel guilty about that.

Response by SGT Bill Braniff made Aug 5 at 2019 10:42 AM

2019-08-05T10:42:32-04:00

Well depends. PTSD is usually though not always caused by combat stress. That is a combat wound indirectly. Many Service people are injured in peacetime or while not in combat and they most deservedly should be awarded disability. If you are injured while in the Armed Forces you're eligible for disability and one shouldn't feel bad about it as it was usually not their fault it occurred.

Response by CH (LTC) Robert Leroe made Aug 16 at 2019 4:54 PM

2019-08-16T16:54:35-04:00

(I'm a combat vet but I don't have any combat-related injuries) When I was going through my retirement process, a retired SGM who was helping me encouraged me to apply for VA disability. He said go to the VA, answer their questions, get evaluated. I did, and got 20% disability for things that were military-service related. And so 20% of my military retirement pay is now tax-free. An injury is an injury, whether at garrison or on a battlefield.

Response by MSgt Allen Chandler made Aug 18 at 2019 5:51 PM

2019-08-18T17:51:30-04:00

I am deeply offended by this question. my plane crash in Vietnam was not considered combat because we were on takeoff had not reach the combat zone. the plane crash because it’s a hard-working American in Texas made a mistake. the doctor spent five years putting me back together. yes I receive disability compensation. yes I think I deserve it. yes I am offended that anybody would ask. I signed the letter just like everybody else did. to go were they told me, and do what they do what needed to be done Somewhere in that letter there was a clause about they’ll take care of me if something happens. I lived up to my oath and they have lived up there

Response by SGT William Nixson made Aug 23 at 2019 10:46 PM

2019-08-23T22:46:44-04:00

Veterans should NEVER feel bad about accepting VA compensation for a service-connected disability!Does the rest of the country "feel bad" about our pay scale, or the rest of what might be considered "compensation" for our services? If so, them why are the first five enlisted pay grades dang near poverty level? When I was an E-4 (1979) with two infant sons, if my wife hadn't worked a job outside of the home, we would have qualified for food stamps and welfare in Maryland (Ft Meade)
I can hear all the hard**ses saying "If the Army wanted you to have a wife (& kids) they would have issued you one" yeah, yeah, yeah - stuff it in your ditty bag right next to that bucket of muzzle velocity you sent me after in Basic!!! I VOLUNTEERED for service, and proudly served for seven years, made all kinds of sacrifices and a hardship tour - I paid my dues even if I never went to combat!! I am damn proud of my service and my country - but don't think I should "feel bad" about accepting my service-connected disability (10% hearing loss). It's non-compensable, but I still get health care at the VA medical center - dammit I EARNED that!

Response by Cpl D L Parker made Aug 26 at 2019 11:53 AM

2019-08-26T11:53:39-04:00

The repetitive stress disorder I got while serving 30 years ago still affects me. So vets should get whatever is owed to them. Unfortunately for me my RSI started 5 months before my discharge, I never went to sick bay and it's not recorded my permanat record

Response by CPO Jim Fulton made Aug 29 at 2019 10:42 PM

2019-08-29T22:42:59-04:00

No they should not feel bad, they served their country with honor and deserve the same benefits.

Response by MSgt Allen Chandler made Sep 1 at 2019 11:41 PM

2019-09-01T23:41:06-04:00

Why do I keep seeing this I think the question is this stressful it was a marine shot paralyzed in a live fire training this weekend is anybody going to tell me he doesn’t use her care for the rest of his life

Response by SSG Hank Ortega made Sep 2 at 2019 12:16 PM

2019-09-02T12:16:56-04:00

Absolutely not. Some pretty severe injuries can result in training, and even in just doing one's job.
the contract is two way street. You put your life on the line, and the Government agrees to care for and/or compensate for any injury or damage resulting from service. Not strictly related to combat.

Response by SSgt Ryan Sylvester made Sep 2 at 2019 12:29 PM

2019-09-02T12:29:44-04:00

Considering that mine 4K'd me at 11 years, no, I am not going to feel bad about collecting my monthly check. Nor am I going to feel bad about having completely free health coverage at VA hospitals due to my percentage. Nor should anyone else. We have our bodies when we raised our hands. Consider it back payment on the rental agreement for damages.

Response by PO2 Michael Slachta made Sep 5 at 2019 4:30 PM

2019-09-05T16:30:36-04:00

I have 35 years service with the VA, in no way is a disability or disease judged on whether or not it was incurred in combat. No one should feel they are not entitled because "it" didn't happen in combat. We signed up to defend our country, our country promised in turn to take care of anything that happened during service. That was the bargain and that is what the VA within the limits of law tries to do.

Response by PO3 Terri Marini made Sep 9 at 2019 1:10 AM

2019-09-09T01:10:45-04:00

I would say no. Most of the time things don’t usually happen right away or even when you’re in the service. I was on the ship that we decommed being exposed to asbestos and they tell me that I have to look forward to cancer in 30 years because of it. With all the issues I have if the VA didn’t have a weird mathematic way to figure out disability I would probably be about 400%. But I am at 90% for my issues and they won’t increase it to 100 because they state my issues can get better which they will not. Nor is VA giving me service For my service connected disabilities. There’s always a year gap or more before I get my medical service that I need for these issues. I even had to write a clinical appeal because the VA refuses to fill my medicine for VA Choice/Community Care. I was exposed to high radiation so when I first got out in 2006 it wasn’t bad but as the years pass internally my body is getting worse. Some veterans have never seen combat nor have they even been overseas. But if you have issues that are worsened or started by something in the military than it is counted in your medical record. Just like when we went to Bahrain we didn’t have a choice but to get the smallpox and anthrax shot. I believe the anthrax shot is illegal now and our arms would swell up like a grapefruit at the time and we couldn’t even get our arm in our sleeve

Response by PO1 Sean Reynolds made Sep 9 at 2019 11:41 AM

2019-09-09T11:41:59-04:00

No. People get injured all the time in non combat events.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Sep 9 at 2019 1:01 PM

2019-09-09T13:01:34-04:00

We have had this discussion before. Is someone pushing for a different answer? My MOS was not that of a fodder target, it was 11-B the best known of all military men in all services. "Infantry". In Korea my weapon was never fired at others, but it was loaded. My mission was peace my service like any other is not based on Harm but done service. Physical harm is indeed at the top of the pile of Intitalment but by far not all of it. In fact, some mission multiplies have created there own form of dis-ease. There are 2000 known conditions of the brain already. Somewhere along the way, they may discover that the brain is a source but not the source.

Response by SPC Mike Miller made Sep 11 at 2019 5:44 AM

2019-09-11T05:44:36-04:00

I have a rating with the Va for my foot. I was forced to be a ground guide for 14 hours in the field and dig foxholes when the ground was concrete and broke my foot days later. I was only in my first year and my squad leader did not believe me. I had to work 2 days till my foot swelled up and my boot had to be cut off. So I have no problem being compensated when I cannot run cross country anymore and can only walk to keep in shape.

Response by LCpl Kenneth Heath made Sep 12 at 2019 2:26 AM

2019-09-12T02:26:23-04:00

Certainly not. Non-Combat injuries happen, people have been killed in training. I was injured in a field training exercise and my condition has worsened as I've grown older. There were no large deployment combat operations while I was active duty, (1982-'85), but that doesn't mean people weren't hurt or killed in service-connected situations. Non-Combat Vets carry enough stigma for not being in combat without denying themselves earned health care for it too!

Response by PO2 Joan Feledy made Sep 12 at 2019 12:15 PM

2019-09-12T12:15:37-04:00

No. I am one of those veterans. I was in engineering and worked many long hard hours and always gave my all. My body did not do well because of it and am paying for it in many ways. Because of one of my injuries I was removed from the military. I wanted to do 20 and could not because I had to make a hard choice to leave because one dr said I could deal with my injury and work because football and baseball players did it all the time. I had to decide I did not want to have a screwed up knee for the rest of my life and always have a limp which would lead to many other problems. My initial dr agreed I should have gotten it fixed and not gone back to a ship because that would have totally ruined my knee. I don't feel bad for getting my compensations, I do feel for those who obviously should have them and for some reason do not.

Response by 1SG Bernhard Mattulat made Sep 12 at 2019 5:18 PM

2019-09-12T17:18:16-04:00

No! Bad Landing at Bragg and limp for life. Job requirement to "currency jump". Bad radios results in hearing loss. ALL firearms bad on the ears with limited hearing protection. Doctor prescription(s) that turn out to "screw you up" (wife @ 100 % VA Dis due to bad chemistry). A combat related "kicker" would not seem unreasonable to me.

Response by CW5 Steve Kohn made Sep 12 at 2019 7:01 PM

2019-09-12T19:01:53-04:00

Yes. The only ones receiving disability should be those with a Purple Heart. Not just service connected. Not just being in a combat zone. We can get injured in a combat zone from a traffic accident or playing a game of basketball. Purple Heart, period.
Disability has even been "awarded" for venereal disease. (Google it.) I know of a SP4 who got 100% disability because she had a nervous breakdown after being chewed out by her NCO. The stories could go on and on.
All of us know disabled veterans leading perfectly normal lives. Active lives, in fact. They hold down full-time jobs.
Not only is it immoral, but if we don't fix this, the civilians will. Those wounded in combat may find the level of care they need reduced or unavailable because the funds or medical care to treat them has been used on others with sleep apnea, diabetes or a number of other preventable or age-related illnesses.
We've made a mockery of good intentions, but the military disability system is rotten.

Response by CPO Larry Stidd made Sep 12 at 2019 11:09 PM

2019-09-12T23:09:58-04:00

Absolutely not.....we all were checked out physically before entering service.....we were qualified or we didn’t get in......that physical set the standard for what we “should be” when we leave military service....I KNOW NO ONE WHO didn’t sacrifice something......We all wrote a blank check for upto and including our lives.....but the VA disability program is suppose to provide compensation and benefits to those of us who had something “happen” physically while serving......COMBAT is irrelevant to the conversation because like all things, we break more equipment, hurt more people during training.... many folks are exposed to chemicals, radiation, noises, ect that later cause additional health issues.....

Numerous navy nukes have issues ionized radiation causing brain tumors, diabetes, loss hormones, strange illnesses years after military separation....we all know gulf war syndrome, agent orange issues, weapons techs and radiation exposure is as damaging as nuclear power workers.....Electronic Technology has been damaging tissues, birth defects due to unknown phenomenon....none of these are “combat” related but.....how do we do our jobs without air cover? Without ships transporting equipment, personnel, etc.....weapons assembly.....radar work?
Combat related issues are of easy diagnosis.....always have our respect for the guys and gals on front lines but each military member has an assigned job and NONE OF THEM ARE ANY LESS dangerous.......GUYS KILLED ON NAVY SHIPS, Air Force techs have issues for their roles in combat and bomb assembly, radio and radar workers ....ALL ARE NEEDED AND REQUIRED FOR SMOOTH OPERATIONS....

MMC USN ret

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2019 11:22 AM

2019-09-13T11:22:55-04:00

No one should feel bad for any service connected disabilities. The differences that come into play are with regards to Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) and Concurrent Retirement Disability Pay (CRDP). CRSC is a special compensation for combat-related disabilities. It is non-taxable, and retirees must apply to their Branch of Service to receive it. CRDP is a restoration of retired pay for retirees with service-connected disabilities. It is considered taxable income.

Response by SPC Joe Weiss made Sep 13 at 2019 1:47 PM

2019-09-13T13:47:32-04:00

Why? I broke my ankle in BCT in ‘76 and get a 20% Compensation for it, not embarrassed at all

Response by CDR Peter Gregory made Sep 14 at 2019 10:17 AM

2019-09-14T10:17:50-04:00

VA awards or compensation is based solely upon medical issues as a result of performance of duty assignment. Actual geographic location of said duty, war zone, combat related, CONUS, reserve or active, is immaterial to the compensation claim or its merits.

Response by SP6 Anthony Key made Sep 14 at 2019 8:30 PM

2019-09-14T20:30:38-04:00

First off if you know anything about claims, the VA just don’t award you a claim because you said so. First it best be in your military medical records and even then it’s not a shoe in. The process is mentally grueling. So judge anyway you like but try a claim yourself and see how easy its not.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 14 at 2019 11:36 PM

2019-09-14T23:36:57-04:00

No they shouldn't. If it was sustained while wearing that uniform & the circumstances were out of control of the soldier then hell no. Injuries happen. Some ppl bodies can't handle smcertain stresses. We aren't all built the same. Nothing wrong with that.

Now if the soldier was at fault or the issue could have been prevented easily. Then yes they should feel bad if they get them at all.

Response by SPC Dave Loeffler made Sep 15 at 2019 9:53 AM

2019-09-15T09:53:10-04:00

Never should you be ashamed ass the disability was earned while serving and preparing for combat. I am one of those combated rated individuals and can do without some of the memories and problems faced with VA,

Response by LCDR Joe Blanchard made Sep 15 at 2019 5:54 PM

2019-09-15T17:54:45-04:00

I just spent a week at Fort Bennng. The hospital was full of new soldiers
that had been injured while jumping out of airplanes. Years from now,assuming they survive in the service, those issues will probably come back to haunt them. If a civilian gets hurt on the job, he/she has workman's comp. However, what we do is dangerous and we accept that but we do it to be prepared to be able to defend our country, civilians don't have that requirement.

Response by SMSgt Jeff Kyle made Sep 16 at 2019 12:56 AM

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I accrued a number of damaged body parts over my 25 years. The usual one’s for Helicopter mechanics: tinnitus, hearing loss, bad knees, etc. I got the extra special stuff for being in the wrong place at the wrong (or right) time. Physical Injuries and mental damage put me out of the work force. I tried to make it but it just didn’t work out. I’ve got a family to support, wife, kids, the usual pets plus mortgage, utility bills, etc. My only choice was to seek help from available organizations. The VA was my first stop. It took 4 months to get into the system and even then it was touch and go on the bills. Multiple surgeries to repair injuries, many through civilian providers. It was very nerve wracking going through a lot of pain, mental issues (never in a 100 years would I have thought I’d have mental issues), I got a laundry list. So, the VA was first stop. As that was slowly making its way through the wickets, I was encouraged to apply for Social Security Disability. That was a nerve racking process that took 2 1/2 years to get approved. In the end, wife and kids have a roof over head, food for them and a few pets and still some left over to have some hobbies that I can do at my very slow pace. Back to your question. Do I feel bad? Yes I do. Is that a rational reaction, don’t think so. But it is what it is and it pretty much doesn’t matter how I feel as long as I can provide for my family.

Response by SSgt Randall Farr made Sep 16 at 2019 8:45 AM

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If that door has been opened; all are welcome, without discrimination. However, and unfortunately, this privilege is abused by a “minor majority” (oxymoron intended)! I hope some day that the government will finally eliminated all the red-taped politics of percentages of disability and will (free of charge) take care of all those who have honorably been discharged from active duty and ready-reserve military duty.

In answer to your question; No...veterans should never “feel bad” about “being awarded” and receiving disability compensation for non-combat-related injuries. Feeling bad about something is a choice...nothing “makes” us feel bad.

Psychology aside; the VA is a breeding ground for up and coming college-based “medical specialists” and the more patients to attend to, the more practice and real-life help they experience. And yes, this is the epitome of social medicine and, with the proper “tweaking” and dedication, could be a true cost effective effort. The socialism approach stays and stops here. The rest of our nation gets back to being a republic and becomes sober rather than flippant toward our tried and true constitution.

Response by LCpl William Howard made Sep 16 at 2019 7:20 PM

2019-09-16T19:20:09-04:00

No, veterans should not feel bad about being awarded VA disability compensation for non-combat related injuries

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2019 2:38 AM

2019-09-22T02:38:09-04:00

Why should they? If they were injured or endured 20+ years of battering their bodies for Uncle Sam, then they've earned every single dime.

Response by Angela King made Sep 23 at 2019 8:38 AM

2019-09-23T08:38:19-04:00

Need to stress the wording as "Service-Connected" not as non-combat.

Response by 1LT Mary Renzi made Sep 23 at 2019 11:07 PM

2019-09-23T23:07:47-04:00

NO, they should not feel bad. My disability is not combat related. Screw those who disagree

Response by SGT Andrew Brooks made Oct 4 at 2019 11:45 AM

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What exactly are you referring to? You get compensation pay for service related injuries, whether it's in actual combat or because of an accident on base in the states doesn't change anything. I'm a disabled veteran who served during Dessert Storm, but my injuries to my spine weren't incurred by a bullet they occurred later, in a fall during an exercise back in CONUS. It's still because of my service.
If my condition had been because of a traffic accident in my POV off-base, that would be different, and I wouldn't be eligible for benefits in that case anyway.

Response by SP5 Derick Johnsohne made Oct 5 at 2019 12:43 AM

2019-10-05T00:43:39-04:00

not at all

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 5 at 2019 11:10 AM

2019-10-05T11:10:08-04:00

I personally felt as though any injuring or reoccurring pain I've had I shouldn't try and see if it was military related. Since I have been exposed those environments and shot at, survived explosions or anything if the sort...I felt as though it wouldn't be "right" for me to even try.

Now that I'm older and been in for so long I can see that was a mistake. I still had the heavy impact of rucking and climbing in and out of dump trucks and troop carriers, I'm still part of the security team the entire CSTX we have so I'm always geared up and booking it into hasty's and holes, and operating a dozer for from sun up to sun down everyday for weeks straight definitely kills the body.

If anyone has sustained injuries or ailments while serving they should bring it up and see about properly receiving help and coverage. If it's a lie then hopefully the charade will be seen through and they will receive none.

Response by SGT Marvin Shiplips made Oct 13 at 2019 8:38 AM

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NO NO NO Only combat vets

Response by Sgt Scott Myers made Oct 13 at 2019 9:25 AM

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No if an injury was received while serving it should be covered.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2019 5:19 AM

2019-10-14T05:19:10-04:00

Not at all. The VA looks at your active duty time. Not just combat time. If you had any disabilities that you had acquired during your service time and it met the VA’s laws and regulations as a disability that is warranted then you we be compensated by the VA.

Response by CPT Larry Hudson made Oct 15 at 2019 8:19 PM

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Absolutely not. Injuries continue to manifest themselves years after combat psychologically, physically, sociologically, ways that are entirely missunderstood on personal levels or treatment levels. It is little for a nation to ask a person to do its dirty work to vanquish an enemy and then turn him out with indifference.
With not so much as a bandaid.

Response by COL Jeff Williams made Oct 15 at 2019 11:36 PM

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Of course not, but my guess is that in comparison to those who have suffered injuries in combat, some may feel different about it

Response by Sgt William Margeson made Oct 16 at 2019 5:55 AM

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No. Some injuries show up right away, others years later. Combat arms usually have the most injuries, which are noticed right away, and manifest again years later. Usually in a more severe way, often requiring surgery to repair. These delayed effects of previous injuries often reduce a service members ability to earn a living. Therefore, veterans should not feel guilty abaout receiving VA Benefits.

Response by CPT Jay Ward made Oct 17 at 2019 1:47 AM

2019-10-17T01:47:03-04:00

N0, many of us affected by Agent Orange. I would call that "service connected".

Response by Robert McAfee made Oct 17 at 2019 7:40 AM

2019-10-17T07:40:57-04:00

Living in IL there are some vets who should feel very bad. IL has a law that allows vets with a 80% disability to pay zero property tax, but their disability is a joke. A disability would be loss of limb, loss of hearing, loss of eyesight, injury that puts you in a wheelchair. Sleep apnea is not a disability. I work at Scott AFB, and in my department we have a retired AF major who's disability is sleep apnea. He's gets his retirement, VA disability, and GS paycheck. Then we have a contractor that also has sleep apnea, but for him it is not a disability. There is a woman, that works upstairs, who is in a wheelchair and she finds it disgusting that these men claim disability.

Response by CPL Timothy Bell made Oct 17 at 2019 11:03 AM

2019-10-17T11:03:40-04:00

Absolutely not, i developed MS (Multiple Sclerosis) while in the Army. So they basically take the blame by calling it “service connected.” I had just re-enlisted and they were unwilling to let me serve out that enlistment; gave me a medical retirement so it’s on them for doing that...keep those checks coming.

Response by MSG Basil Berchekas Jr made Oct 17 at 2019 11:27 AM

2019-10-17T11:27:25-04:00

No, they shouldn't. They still earned it. Period.

Response by David Searle made Oct 17 at 2019 2:40 PM

2019-10-17T14:40:59-04:00

Absolutely not! All medical should be paid for! At whatever hospital or doctor they choose or need.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2019 3:08 PM

2019-10-17T15:08:22-04:00

Feelings??? The amount of strain, stress, and physical requirements to serve justifes compensation on injuries validated by VA doctors that review your records. I served 23 yrs active duty. Combat Veteran and I have non-combat related injuries from Air Assault missions, 25 mile road marches, multiple sustained deployments ( 2 x Combat/ 9 x Non-Combat). You have to realize what it is that as a soldier is expected of your body, recovery time, injuries, physical training, and MOS demands. As an old Sapper hearing loss, arthritus, knee and bad back will add up as your get older. Even if you get a zero rating on an injury it may go up as you get older over time. The VA will take all your medical information on yearly physicals and injuries and add them up. To include scars from emplacing constanina wire and surgeries. I do not care what others think!!!! As a disabled Combat Veteran with multiple injuries. I served proudly, and honorably. Not all your injuries will be listed as combat received. After all, less than 3% of the population has served, will serve or currently serving. HOOAH.... God Bless America.

Response by SN Jerry Anthony made Oct 17 at 2019 4:57 PM

2019-10-17T16:57:12-04:00

NO. You want to feel bad about something feel bad about the people that never got the help they deserved.

Response by SPC Nazareth Berlanga made Oct 18 at 2019 8:16 AM

2019-10-18T08:16:47-04:00

I don't think so, as long as it is service related. However, there are always those that are trying to game the system. They usually are not that type that would ever feel bad about it anyway, though.

Response by SrA Ronald Moore made Oct 18 at 2019 11:00 PM

2019-10-18T23:00:36-04:00

No ,a veteran should not feel bad about this issue ,You need all the help you can get as it is, And the fact is Its all service related , and the V.A looks into it.One example is being in different stages of Co-pays which can cost greatly, and have to having to decide whether to eat or pay for your medication if needed

Response by SSG Thomas Barry made Oct 18 at 2019 11:13 PM

2019-10-18T23:13:10-04:00

I still feel bad when I see combat injured soldiers although I am only have a small award. But then when my numerous injuries remind me I was hurt in service to my country, it eases my conscious some what.

Response by SSG James N. made Oct 19 at 2019 10:27 AM

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No. Once you find the VA disregards your claims, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE recorded medically, you will get mad becuase you and your rep know you rate this stuff. If you see reviewers telling you you, by regs, rate this, thing, but we are not giving it to you, you will get pissed as you go through the system with factual records for your case and wonder why you are being denied with no good reason.
Welcome to the suck!

Response by PO2 John Driskill made Oct 19 at 2019 12:06 PM

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No. If you got injured in the performance of your duties and have a disability from it, you rate it. I got so many injuries while in the Navy from this and that accidents, I never thought about getting any type of VA benefit after I got out. Since I distrust the VA System, I'll just carry on as is.

Response by 1st Lt Richard Gauthier made Oct 19 at 2019 6:44 PM

2019-10-19T18:44:32-04:00

Never!

Response by SGT Thomas Price made Oct 19 at 2019 8:27 PM

2019-10-19T20:27:27-04:00

No.

Response by PO3 Amanda Le'Anne Brunzell made Oct 19 at 2019 8:58 PM

2019-10-19T20:58:40-04:00

I didn't have to go to combat to have a shipmate brutally rape me. 15 years of PTSD, anxiety, and other mental health issues to the point it affects my current life and relationships....

Damn straight I deserve my disability.

Response by 1SG J. Shannon Lewis made Oct 20 at 2019 3:01 PM

2019-10-20T15:01:06-04:00

You deserve it. The federal government wastes so much of our, the tax payers, money. I'd rather see my taxes go to someone who deserves it for protecting our great nation!

Response by SSG William Zopff III made Oct 20 at 2019 3:46 PM

2019-10-20T15:46:41-04:00

Veterans, listen up, you volunteered to serve this country. You trained hard, and played hard, we should expect this nation to work hard to take care of us.
As a retiree, we are subject to recall if our nation needs us! Any compensation you receive is an earned benefit, be sure to spend some of it on wellness, physical fitness and eating healthy; you owe yourselves a good life, so the sacrifice you made isn’t wasted. So Live Well and Enjoy! Some of our brothers and sisters didn’t make it back!

Response by SFC David Dean made Oct 20 at 2019 5:27 PM

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Simply put, no. I am a veteran of 20 years of active duty as a military policeman. All of my accumulated injuries which resulted in my V.A. rating came from the time I was on active duty. When I entered the Army in 1973 I did not have these as pre-existing injuries. They are directly attiributable to time in the Army. I have heard some say that statement about no-combat far too often as an excuse to exclude people such as myself. I will not allow anyone in or out of uniform to diminish my time in the Army. In reality I was on-duty during the Viet Nam era and as well during the first foray into Kuwait and the Middle East. I volunteered to go to both locations in 1973 and as well in 1991. I was not given the opportunity to go to either. You cannot seek to say that my 20 years of service count less because I happened to not serve in combat. My service injuries are directly connected to both my active service and any and all training, assignments, and preparations done in accord with being ready to serve or deploy. That is no different than what is expected of those who actually deployed. I did not control the time frames I served and I salute my brothers and sisters whom served in a given theater of conflict. I do believe that those who attempt to cast aspersions upon vets like myself are either envious or solicitous of acknowledgement they are not deserving of in either case. Recognition for the sacrifices of all military members have given is the metric, not the complaining of some limited groups.

Response by PO1 Dee Lee made Oct 20 at 2019 11:53 PM

2019-10-20T23:53:32-04:00

I am 70% rated and I do not feel bad at all for this.

Response by PO1 Ron Clark made Oct 21 at 2019 10:08 AM

2019-10-21T10:08:52-04:00

Nope as long as they didnt fabricate their injury and received it for an honestly related condition, then they are entitled to it!

Response by LTC Ken Connolly made Oct 21 at 2019 1:10 PM

2019-10-21T13:10:47-04:00

No.

Response by SPC Eric Hill made Oct 21 at 2019 5:53 PM

2019-10-21T17:53:18-04:00

What if an Army Ranger or Navy Seal gets hurt during the selection process? Would it not stand to reason thatthey should be compensated for that injury. Or maybe an Airman who has a piece of equipment break and injures them whilst working on an aircraft? The disability was caused by being in the service so they definitely shouldn't feel bad about receiving compensation for it.

Response by SrA Ronald Moore made Oct 23 at 2019 7:46 AM

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Closed mouths and Not willing to share a blessing is do not get fed, nor grow, nor feeling bad will bless the ones who fought hard for the Veteran to have such a benefit, they get blessed by giving

Response by SrA Ronald Moore made Oct 23 at 2019 7:54 AM

2019-10-23T07:54:32-04:00

Be very patient and learn how to now start waiting, wait them out, when you waited as long as you can, then wait,

Response by SFC Jay White made Nov 3 at 2019 4:37 PM

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Not at all. Over the course of a military career, people develop injuries that they deal with and put off for the sake of the mission. The military takes a toll on the body, from rucking to chuting to all other aspects of physical activity. No one, and I mean NOT ONE person who has honorably served any branch of service for a twenty year plus career, or even a tour of four to six years, should feel bad or ashamed for receiving compensation for non combat related injuries. Injuries, while in uniform, are still injuries…

Response by LTJG Sandra Smith made Nov 4 at 2019 4:16 PM

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Certainly not if the service connected disability was something over which you had no control and no part in causing. I suppose there will always be some "gold bricks" even in that. who play up the level of disability caused by whatever is the nature of that disability. But that will meet its just reward at another time, and in the meanwhile if you were injured in some way in the course of your duties, then accept the award.

Response by SSG Sharon Fields made Nov 6 at 2019 11:39 AM

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No we should no feel bad. We all signed the same paper saying we are willing to serve and we all would have deployed right along with everyone else if we had been told to.

Response by PO2 Chad Thompson-Smith made Nov 11 at 2019 10:34 AM

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Hell no they shouldn’t FEEL bad....did our time and there are a SHITLOAD of valid injuries CAUSED by how the NEEDS of the military completely fuck up our bodies...I worked as an EN in a hell hole sucking asbestos through a fucking dust mask (among many other stupid fucking things) because the military treats its people like shit.

Response by MAJ Richard Cheek made Nov 12 at 2019 10:27 AM

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Why should they? I certainly don’t. slamming into a rock on a drop zone was not something I did On purpose.

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Nov 17 at 2019 11:03 PM

2019-11-17T23:03:35-05:00

No, just plain no. If it was service related, you earned it.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Nov 30 at 2019 1:36 AM

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SP4 Byron Skinner. While I believe that the military works like the civilian disability market regardless or the circumstances of the Injury or Wound. Medical Treatment and the VA’s cash benefits are equal. For Amputees there is something like 75 dollar a mont for loss of limb or eye, but that’s the only difference I know of, does a veteran who lost a leg web a jack gave out while legs was under the vehicle in the motor pool, i don’t know. That said there are other benefits that can be given such as relief on property Taxes. Say the first $200,000.00 of property validation be tax exempt, Perhaps a no charge bus pass on municipal transpiration. The numbers of combat wounded veterans is very small and shrinking everyday. A discount on the net income tax say up to $200.000.00 of say 50 to 25% based on the amount of disability and its life changing effect on the man or woman who sustained major wound(s) when in actual shooting and killing combat.

Response by SFC Clinton D. Washington made Dec 2 at 2019 5:24 PM

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I don't feel bad for receiving disability compensation for combat related or non combat related, and Most veterans that I know feel bad, because they don't receive disability compensation of any kind, and still fighting for compensation, because of there service connected injuries.

Response by SPC Arthur Lowder made Dec 10 at 2019 9:07 AM

2019-12-10T09:07:25-05:00

power to them , a lot of veterans who should receive disability are being denied

Response by MSgt Ray Hutchins made Dec 20 at 2019 5:07 PM

2019-12-20T17:07:13-05:00

No, why would they?

Response by SFC Ronald Moore made Dec 21 at 2019 9:07 AM

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If they are not able to work or must take a lower paying job due to the disability then YES you proudly deserve the compensation.
NO do not feel bad because you served. Gave of your time and talent for the service.

Response by Maj Dale Smith made Dec 21 at 2019 3:45 PM

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Keep in mind that most veterans have not seen combat. As an Air Force pilot of a non-combat support aircraft, we had no defensive systems, however, without us, tactical and strategic force projection systems (think B-1, B-2, B-52, F-15, F-16, F-22 & F-35) aircraft could not do their jobs. We air refueled all these aircraft + more. The avionics mtx, airframe mtx, powerplant mtx all performed their jobs so that I could perform mine. Every A/D office support airman was also trained and qualified in the opperation of the M-16 to perform a wartime defense job. The same is true about the Navy, only on a ship think fireman. For the Army, every soldier is weapons qualified and from a logistics standpoint, the infantryman could not do his job if he had no ammunition or MREs. In many instances, if you were a civilian, OSHA would dictrate what you could do with heavy loads. In the field, there may not be a second man to lift, or a forklift to carry. Try telling your squad leader that an urgent piece of materiel will not get loaded because it is too heavy. This goes for sounds exceeding 80Db, bright flashes and the list goes on. Damn straight those who were not in combat are entitled to VA disability. We avoided WWIII because a boatload of us were able to takeoff and fly towards the USSR in less than 12 minutes 24/7 and some of us managed to slip on the icy flight ramp at 0300 when the temperature was -40F and we climbed into the aircraft as opposed to going NMR at the hospital.

Response by SSG Philip Evans made Dec 22 at 2019 11:20 PM

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I never feel bad that anyone that has service connected disabilities receives compensation for their disabilities. They have more than deserved it. Times have changed. It's now much easier to deal with the VA and receive compensation that it was is years past. My son just retired after 22 years in the Army and just qualified for 100%. It was not always that easy! My military career spanned across 36 years in several branches of service finally retiring from the Army in 2001. I left the Navy after being diagnosed with multiple sleep disorders and declared "non-deployable". Coming from NSW (what is now called SW/CC, I was allowed to jump to another branch if they had a suitable position. The Army offered me a good slot in Light Infantry as a "Ranger Squad Leader". I took that position for 5 more years before again being declared "non-deployable" and forced into retirement. In the end, Army Medical refused to allow me a "medical board" that I had requested and refused to award any disability. All disability was documented by civilian doctors, specialists, and later by Social Security doctors. I have twice applied fr VA disability with the help of a VSO and both times the applications were always "lost" somewhere in the processing. I did got to VA Hospitals for treatment a number of times, but always at my expense. I finally gave up and accepted Social Security Disability and Tri-Care for Life from the military. I get all my medical now at Ft Sill and other military and civilian facilities. Mine is just one of many stories that I have encountered from people that started their military career back in the days of VietNam.

Response by SSG Steve W. made Dec 26 at 2019 11:57 AM

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Absolutely not. By definition the VA award is for service-connected, not combat-related. to me, its as simple as that.

Response by PO1 Todd B. made Dec 27 at 2019 5:02 PM

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I will start by saying I am a service connected disabled Veteran, 85% physical rated (5 injuries), 100% IU.

And what I think is this. IF your injuries occurred ON DUTY WHILE PERFORMING actual duties, in or out of combat, then yes you are entitled to service connected compensation and medical care FOR THOSE INJURIES.

If your are talking about injuries NOT INCURRED on duty.. say from screwing around jumping into a pond or a motorcycle accident or falling off the roof of your home or anything else while NOT on duty and not as part of your service, then HELL NO you should NOT be getting "benefits". PERIOD.

I am sick and tired of waiting in line at the V/A because someone stubbed their toe or fell down some stairs or broke their leg in a car accident and now needs major surgery and other needs.

The V/A was not created to give Veterans free benefits because they served for 2 years then went home. It was created to take care of those who were injured doing the job, on the job. Not as a free for all because you carry the title 'Veteran'.

I am right now 1.5 years waiting on my next surgery for one of my ON DUTY service connected injuries. Why? Because the line ahead of me is that long. And sadly, 80% of those in line are not service connected for the treatment they are there to get. How do I know? Because I ask. I am not afraid to open my mouth.

And to those of you that want to justify someone getting care just because they served a few years, maybe you should consider the ramifications for the rest of us that have to wait for our care because of the huge numbers of veterans taking advantage of the system.

Response by PO2 Michael Henry made Dec 28 at 2019 5:11 AM

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One should only feel bad about disability is if they actually got awarded for something they didn't have.

Response by SSgt Teresa Spitler made Jan 3 at 2020 6:23 PM

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Hell no! Many times I’ve been told “I wish had what you have then I could get disability”. Fools have no idea what I have!!! I may look okay on the outside but you can’t see what’s on the inside. PTSD & depression is a real bitch to live with. Wouldn’t wish this on anyone. Took me years before I went for help. Guilt took me so long to get help. I was tough & strong & could handle anything with beer, vodka, Vicodin & whatever else I could find to numb my brain. It took my son & daughter noticing & telling me to get help that finally made me get there. Grown children look to parents for help & shouldn’t be the ones offering help! That really hurt & made me wake up!

Response by MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. made Jan 8 at 2020 9:11 AM

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Not even a little bit! I'm a combat-wounded Vietnam vet, but some of my biggest physical problems stem from injuries/illness sustained during peacetime training. When I retired in 1991, I underwent my physical at West Point, where I had been serving on the faculty. They had a 75-year-old doctor doing retirement physicals and, after he finished interviewing me and looking over my health records, he handed the thick folder to a young woman and told me: "I'm having this young lady make you a complete copy of this. Come back tomorrow and pick it up. Then, when you get to where you're going after you leave here, go to the nearest VA medical center and apply for a disability rating."

I told him I didn't think that would be necessary because I didn't feel particularly disabled. He laughed and said: "Wait 10 years, major! Trust me, you've got some problems that are going to get much worse as you get older."

So, I took his advice and within six months of my retirement had a 30% rating. As the years went by, certain conditions worsened and by 2005 I was rated 90% with individual unemployability. Five years later that was changed to 100% permanent and total. If you take all of the conditions that plague me and add them up, it comes to 260%! Only my PTSD, right shoulder injury, and Agent Orange-related conditions stem from combat. All the rest of them came about from injuries sustained in peacetime training activities. The fact they aren't combat related does not make them any less debilitating!

Response by SPC Luther Wooten made Jan 10 at 2020 2:51 PM

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Not at all. We serve where are needed and commanded to serve.

Response by PFC Jim Mills made Jan 10 at 2020 11:36 PM

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No veteran should feel bad. From personal experience running 6-10 miles every other day and hard combat training in between over almost a decade can destroy a body. 2 years after I was in the injuries starting coming. Now at 46 I’m falling apart and my dad is 71 with 21 years in the navy and no medical issues at all. Don’t ever feel bad about getting what is owed to you! You already feel bad enough being hurt.

Response by PO1 Timothy Strunk made Jan 11 at 2020 9:21 AM

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The way I see it, as long as you are serving you are standing by to go into combat at a moments notice whether you ever do or not and therefore you deserve just as many/all benefits as anyone who does go into combat. The fact is you are ready at a moments notice to make the ultimate sacrifice for the country and therefore the country should be ready to make the ultimate sacrifice to you.

Response by MSgt Jesse Tiede made Jan 11 at 2020 5:29 PM

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Well, I VOLUNTEERED for combat, but wasn't selected! I WAS sent to places where the dangers were real, none-the-less! However, I did NOT volunteer to go to Clark AB, RP, in the early '90s, when we were literally locked up on base, and Americans were targeted regularly, by the Communist militant group NPA. Being too smart, or maybe just very lucky, I was never shot by these commie bastards, but, I WAS part of rescue and recovery operations from the Mt Pinatubo eruptions, that ultimately ended American military operations at Clark and Subic. In addition to an MSM, and an AFCOM, I left Clark with a bad case (50% VA Disability) of PTSD, and an abhorrence to bad weather, especially storms, earthquakes, and yes, volcanic activity, no matter where it occurs! In addition, during my other 18+ years of active duty, I have been run over by a bomb lift truck, blown my knees out crawling under F-4s, and picked up bombs dropped on the ramp during an ORI! All in all, with all my Service Connected ailments, my VA Disability Rating is up around 250%! Also, some of the chemicals I was routinely exposed to, BEFORE we had MSDS paperwork and any consideration for the environment, wreaks havoc with my lungs and sinuses! Now, I could have waited to be drafted (my notice came when I was in my 3rd week of Basic Training), and just went to Vietnam, and maybe killed. But, I guess I would have been in Combat, and, therefore worthy of the 100% rating I have, but, Agent Orange is not the ONLY chemical the military has used that's deadly...

Response by Cpl Vic Burk made Jan 11 at 2020 7:15 PM

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If it is a disability as a result of military action, whether combat or at a military post while perfoming their duties they should not feel bad. However, I also feel that if they are able to work in any capacity this should also be taken in consideration as to the percentage of disability they receive.

Response by 1LT Luke Flowers made Jan 11 at 2020 7:39 PM

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I don’t know anyone who is disabled who doesn’t feel bad. I think that is the point of going through the disability rating assessment...

I think the people who should feel bad are the egomaniacs and shitbags who injury shame their battle buddies and brothers and sisters who need some empathy and support for recovery and a realistic plan to return to fully mission capable status.

Seriously I hope every shitbag “leader” and service member who ego trips when someone gets hurt ends up as a paraplegic who has to beg to have their asses wiped. I also hope malingerers and cowards who fake injuries to get out of training and operations stub their toe and break their necks when they trip and fall and both of those types of shitbags end up in the same hospital for recovery together.

I also hope for a reasonable recovery for both of those types. Unless they choose to keep being shitbags. Then I don’t care anymore.

I think I’m losing compassion for people who just choose to be shitbags and refuse to help others and help themselves. Does that make me a hardass? Or too hardcore?

Response by 1SG Tommy McGee made Jan 11 at 2020 10:27 PM

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No! It doesn’t matter if your service broke you during war or training for war. Combat Related Special Compensation is the way to go if you want only combat related compensation for injuries. Do not take anything away from veterans.

Response by PO3 Sarah Yacko made Jan 11 at 2020 11:26 PM

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This may be a little off topic. I'm service connected for PTSD due to combat and a leg injury. Bc of my leg injury I do have a handicap plaqucard I don't always use it bc sometimes I feel like people stare at me when I get out of my vehicle bc I look normal like nothing's wrong with me. I had a police officer one time ask me if he could see my paperwork for it to make sure it was mine and I laughed a bit. I showed it to him and he's like okay you just don't look like anything a wrong with you, as I rolled my eyes. Not all disability is visible. We deserve what we get for disability not one should ever feel bad. We served our country with honor, courage and commitment!

Response by SSgt W. Aaron Gregory made Jan 12 at 2020 8:01 AM

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I know this has been answered multiple times already... but I will answer from my own experience and perspective nonetheless. Whether your disability is due to combat or non-combat injuries, you went in service whole, and left otherwise. Your life has been permanently changed to some degree, usually for the worse. Yes, I knew what I was getting into going in, and so did everyone else. It has been an all-volunteer force since I think '72. I would not hesitate to do it all over again, either. If it helps those that "feel bad" about compensation, try to think of it as an additional "thank you", and condolences at the same time from a grateful nation. The VA and the U.S. Government know outright that they cannot give you back what you lost. And despite the heat that they both get - they are getting better at it. What they can try to do is make the rest of your life a little better somehow. Until someone comes up with a better plan, they do this with monetary compensation and certain medical care offerings. And yes, because some *do* milk the system, they have to have structure and rules to manage that disability compensation program. Because some vets become far more disabled than others. They need and deserve it. While serving your country, a wound is a wound as far as the rest of your life goes, no matter where it came from.

Response by MSgt Don Dobbs made Jan 12 at 2020 11:10 AM

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Absolutely not, service connected means while in service, I like many others were injured during exercises and drills during the "Cold War" or during activities designed to prepare us for combat. Very few have actually been in combat but nearly all have prepared for it. Many like myself have drawn "Hazardous Duty Pay" and have been in a combat zone or hostile fire area, but have never been in actual combat. During my service years I saw and knew several who were killed or severely injured during exercises conducted in peacetime the key there is they were doing their duty and serving their country.

Response by Sgt Dan Hochstetler made Jan 12 at 2020 1:56 PM

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The REAL problem with the VA is that they operate with NO timeframe to do their job. How many of you who work have no time frame? This open enjded allowance to do not do anything is a real problem. It backlogs their system, with they "finite" something do death. Some things are logical....i.e. if you were around guns during VietNam with no hearing protection (common then), then chances are you have tinnitus....even if your records don't show anything. My med records are in shambles. I believe pretty standard for the Nam period. I've talked to so many others and theirs are the same. However, because of that, the middle east wars created a better record keeping system for the military. I am still fighting them which infuriates me. You'd think the money belonged to each of the Dr's, instead of thinking more widely that this was for SERVICE and I can't help it that they messed up. Of course they never admit any wrong doing...Good luck to all, and thank you for your service.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2020 2:54 PM

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Not me. I gave them almost 33 years of my life, and I have the various injuries and scars that came along with it. Everything from PTSD to a damaged cervical disk, and to a lesser extent flat feet and a chronic knee injury. I'm submitting all of it for what I say is a well-deserved compensation benefit. I'd be willing to trade it for a completely healthy mind and body, though.

Response by CPL Gail White made Jan 12 at 2020 5:36 PM

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What equals combat? Of course there is war combat, but what about the female troops that joined to serve their country and where sexually harassed physically and mentally by superiors and peers who thought they should serve them? That is also combat of a different nature but just as traumatic and painful. Two totally different combat situations that deserve benefits.

Response by Cpl Timothy White made Jan 12 at 2020 7:32 PM

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I served 4 years in the USMC. 5 ton operator/ OJT trained as a mechanic. 1988-1992. Worked around the clock for 10th Marines and 2nd Tank Bn for Desert Shied and Desert Storm. Was currently with 24th MEU at the time. Spent over 2 years with an artillery unit and worked in 2nd and 3rd shop. Mounting tires, one blew during mounting. I couldn’t pass a hearing test after that and could not qualify for my ammo license anymore. Also had over 15 ear infections in my 4 years that led to a disease called Cholesteatoma , that required 10 surgery’s after I got out.
I only receive 10% disability. I am told I should rate more. I am ok with this because I feel the young men who came after me who served in Iraq and Afghanistan need a hell of a lot more support from our nation than me. But in closing, I do not feel bad for getting compensation. All I wanted to do was be the best soldier/ marine I could and I sacrificed my hearing along the way. God bless our soldiers and our nation!

Response by COL Thomas McGrath made Jan 12 at 2020 8:31 PM

2020-01-12T20:31:05-05:00

No the disability is for service not combat. It is allowable under the law. Also some of the stuff young guys fro will catch up to them in 20-25 years if not sooner. For instance, road marching, constant running, hearing, impact from parachuting and the list goes on will really start impacting you when you get to your 50s and 60s. Also it is not a lot of money. Finally veterans served their Nation and it is not a lot of money. It also gives the Veteran an advantage when applying for jobs etc.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2020 4:40 AM

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David, There’s no such thing as a disability compensation for a non-combat related injuries. Yes, there’s such a thing called Non-Service Connected disability but there not compensate. Did you know that the VA Regulations states that anyone who is a Veteran, with an Honorable Discharge, who is age 65 and over is considered to be disabled. Yep that’s right.

Response by PO3 Paul Barger made Jan 13 at 2020 11:49 AM

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I do not think so as well. There have been many circumstances where a veteran was put in a dangerous activity that would cause stress, anxiety, injury ect. One example is a sexual attack on a woman in service. That can leave lasting effects both physical and mentally. Seeing someone killed or almost being killed yourself. Many things have happened out of non-combat related instances. The Cold War was full of happenings. The Iran Hostage Crisis, there wasnt any combat when the helo's crashed in the rescue attempt, vets were injured or died, The Beruit barracks bombing, almost getting shot during live fire exercises, I could go on for awhile. Broken bones, head injuries, PTSD. they are all injuries that could and have happened and did while in service to our country combat or not. I agree with Col Christensen the awards are for "service" related not just "combat related". I am not afraid to say I am one of those. Thats almost on line with the "what is considered a Vet " question, or are you still a Sailor if you never went to sea I have heard that one alot and even teased others jokingly.
God Bless all of our service members

Response by Cpl Ronald Everitt made Jan 13 at 2020 2:17 PM

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As for me I most certainly don't!

May have been out of Territorial Waters of Vietnam but as for what,when,where and why of the dual leg incident-1972 we were yet receiving hazardous duty pay as we of the U.S. Naval Schenectady ship of the 7th Fleet then sailed back...then when its filed claim came through in 2014 or so and with pride in God/Country if only yet rated at 20% when in need as am yet,got the service connected compensation and so again just because was not in an war zone then I haven't any so called cliff-hanging worries for it.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2020 4:06 PM

2020-01-13T16:06:51-05:00

Absolutely not. VA disability compensation was created to make ALL veterans whole for injuries and diseases caused by military service. VA disability payments are the military equivalent of workers compensation pay. If you are injured in a civilian job, you are entitled to worker's comp. payments. The only difference is that veterans deserve the disability payments more. Those who wore the uniform and took an oath should never feel bad about holding the government accountable to its promise. Whether an injury is combat related or non-combat related does not matter. As an infantry officer I saw soldiers crippled in training accidents. I also have plenty of buddies my age who did not deploy but can barely walk now from all of the peace-time ruck marches and airborne operations. I'm now a VA disability lawyer and I know thousands of veterans suffering from non-combat related injuries and they deserve every penny.

Response by SP5 Ron Rowland made Jan 13 at 2020 6:34 PM

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No, combat or no combat, you are just a set of orders a way from combat duty. Of all the soldiers that went to Vietnam, only a small percentage ever saw combat. I was only nineteen years old and I faced death many times in those rice patties. When death if at your face, only your combat training will save you, do or die kind of thing. I was just a grunt door gunner on a Huey. Many thanks to the Air Force and their Puff the Magic Dragon aircraft. They saved my life quite a few times.

Response by SPC Kurt Hesselden made Jan 13 at 2020 6:55 PM

2020-01-13T18:55:30-05:00

They should feel nothing negative, an on the job injury is just that. If they worked on a road crew and had a backhoe run over their foot and crush it , should they feel bad to claim workmans comp for disability ? No !

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2020 7:36 AM

2020-01-14T07:36:11-05:00

Not at all if they are being awarded for valid reasons. The individual is the only one that knows the truth behind their injuries. I have both combat and training related injuries and I let my VA packet sit for years before a Marine that was at Kha Sanh in 67-68 told me to submit.

Response by PO1 Lyndon Thomas made Jan 14 at 2020 7:58 AM

2020-01-14T07:58:13-05:00

That would be a Resounding NO Sir. Any man or woman in uniform who receives disability compensation should be Proud to have served this nation, and wear their battle scars even more proudly!

Response by SPC Richard Zacke made Jan 14 at 2020 9:12 AM

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I rolled a D-7 cat bulldozer down a steep incline and was tossed from the hydralic tank to the control levers. It broke my back at 19 years old but we still got our mission done and dug four more tank traps. I wake every day to unbelievable pain and have fought back the temtation to end the pain permanatly after 8 lumbar surgeries and 1 neck surgery every day is a constant reminder of my time in the Army. Today I go to the doctor for sacarilliac injections which must be bad because they want to put me under but I have opted for a local instead. I never felt guilty for collecting 100% until these wars broke out and I saw all the carnage at Tampa VA hospital. There was wound soldiers lining the hallway I felt terrible for them being treated that way but the VA just could not keep up. I put all of my treatment on hold for two years but could no longer stand the pain. Thanks SGT David Reynolds I'd been wanting to get that off my chest for years (1994).

Response by SPC Richard Zacke made Jan 14 at 2020 9:35 AM

2020-01-14T09:35:07-05:00

I'd like to add something else. I'd gladly give up this disabillity if the pain was gone!!

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Jan 14 at 2020 11:58 AM

2020-01-14T11:58:59-05:00

I injured my neck in training trying to teach a guy how to wrestle. He used a move that is illegal in wrestling (full nelson) and instead of stopping him, I wanted to see if I could get out of it. A full nelson is just two half nelsons applied simultaneously; I'd get out of one and then the other. Almost did and was in process of pulling his top hand off, but when he felt his grip going he pulled down on my neck as hard as he could. I was looking up as hard as I could as I couldn't look away to either side because I'd be looking into the other half nelson. His arms were stronger than my neck and I felt something squirt inside [which, in hindsight, was my disc rupturing] and stopped him.

The people that hurt you are the ones that don't have a clue what they're doing. Had a stiff neck for awhile and the symptoms went away after a couple months. Was still running 300 PTF's and went through OCS and TBS with the ruptured disc. The problem didn't resurface till a couple years after the original injury. Was in flight school and my arm was feeling achy and my fingers were going to sleep. A thorn had grown at the site of the injury and was pushing into the nerve going down my arm and it was stimulating the muscle fibers to contract and twitch, making it feel like I worked out hard to the point of being sore for days. The VA removed the torn disc and fused the bones together, and the symptoms disappeared. I did not seek disability for that.

Had I been working at a civilian job, I would not receive disability compensation for the rest of my life. Perhaps I could have sued for millions but I feel too many folks want something for nothing. That's not me. Accidents happen. The government fixed my neck. It will never be the same, but that's life. You deal with things and move on. People thought I was crazy for not trying to get compensation but at the end of the day I have to look in the mirror and my conscience does not bother me.

Response by SFC Richard Williamson made Jan 14 at 2020 1:24 PM

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I am one of those non-combat veterans. I served honorably and faithfully for 20 years and 18 days and there are times when I feel guilty for receiving disability. At the same time, I realize that I earned the benefits from the Army, just like any other veteran who has served honorably, whether in peacetime or war. The short answer here is : No! Veterans should not feel bad about receiving the benefits that they earned.

Response by Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin made Jan 14 at 2020 2:27 PM

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I have issues with my back and sciatic nerves from the excessive amount of sitting in front of a computer in cramped spaces. I exercised incessantly running as much as 10 miles a day before my legs decided to stop for a year. I also inflamed my back from the long periods of wearing body armor while training Afghans. None of my issues are combat related (i.e. directly). These are what the Purple Heart is for.

All that said, I would easily give up my VA rating if all this pain could simply go away and I could run more effectively (I still run, just shorter distances and much slower) and be able to sit for long periods of time in a car again. At the same time, I do not take all the benefits that come with the rating such as using my DV plate to park in handicapped spaces (which is allowed in the state of Texas). Today I am trying to work with the VA to cover better treatment options vs just giving me drugs for pain, like chiropractor services (which Tricare doesn't offer to retirees yet). The VA unfortunately only authorizes 12 seasons a year despite the fact chiropractors don't do one session a month (it's more like 2+ a week).

Now all that said, I know for a fact some people have exaggerated and/or even flat out lied about their conditions, so to that I say yes, they should feel bad.

Response by LTC Lee Bouchard made Jan 14 at 2020 8:47 PM

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You have raised a fair question. My answer is no! They are entitled to fair and reasonable compensation and care. Let's look at the question from the civilian side of your question.
Business's have to carry insurance on their property and operations. If injured on the job by a careless forklift operator you would be covered under Workman's Comp! If the injurie was disabling or permanent the S.S. Admin. may compensate you accordingly. Why feel badly about programs in place that are there and in your best interest. Military or civilian.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Jan 14 at 2020 10:21 PM

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We as military members have perfom our assigned duties. If anything goes wrong doing that duty, we can be crushed, lose hearing, or lose a limb. Carrying weight in exccess of 100 lbs on your shoulder can injure a xhou,der and the ndck. Pushing or pulling weights of 2 tons or more can injure backs or knees, sometimes both. Falling off a ladder. Jumping off a truck. Any type of injury can result in permanet injury of a military member. I feel for the artillery men who have to load rounds for 105, 155 mm howitzers at a rate of six to eight rounds a minute. Loading a 105 howitzer on a AC-130 gunship is no joy, 10 rounds a minute on a shaking, dodging aircraft isn't anyones idea of making a living. You will get injured doing anything in the military. Why not be compensatdd?

Response by SGT Clayton Magee made Jan 15 at 2020 1:45 AM

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Being in the service is inherently dangerous. Injuries happen. Disability can happen at any time, in peace time or during a war. Disability pay is the service members protection. Jumping from planes, flying in aviation assets, are examples of work that can result that can result in disability. Other MOSes can also name inherently dangerous actions. It is quite possible to end up in a wheel chair without leaving CONUS. Why should anyone risk death or disability while serving without protection? It makes no sense to limit disability pay to combat injuries. No one could afford the risk to themselves or there families of being disabled and not compensated.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2020 9:21 AM

2020-01-15T09:21:48-05:00

Not at all. If you get injured while a civilian, you still get compensated for said injury. Why should the military be any different, especially when most of the time we suck it up and not go to sick call because of the stigma attached to it.

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Jan 15 at 2020 9:50 AM

2020-01-15T09:50:16-05:00

This may not be the appropriate way to answer however here we go. Just like a civilian Job if you are injured on the job you get health care through the system, that is standard now if you work for an employer that has no benefits well you should have found an employer that does. Now you have Military contractors that receive health benefits through the VA. They have never put a uniform on.

Soldiers in the Active duty time get injured that is the nature of what they do. When they do the medical folks take care of them until they get out Medically, Retired,...…… with an other than dishonorable discharge. I do Not see the difference between training for Combat and Combat except the real time injuries and Mental stress. Both should be taken care of but a combat injury should receive a greater compensation.

I could be here all day explaining why but short story one earn it the same as the other did.
Let us remember some of us were promised all those years ago things that they now do not receive. JMTC

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 15 at 2020 10:07 AM

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the issue is the army beats up and breaks down your body. So even though your injury may not have occurred while on active duty, it is most likely "service related".

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Jan 15 at 2020 10:09 AM

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Many troops question themselves over receiving disability but in my opinion if your disability is service related (peacetime/wartime) then there is nothing to feel bad about. You are entitled to receive it and thats that. In the end when you look in the mirror thats what is important. Once again this is my opinion, I feel that many question themselves because of that very small group of (Fill in the profanity) morons that game the system for financial gain. Far more good troops get shortchanged by the system than rob it. In my case I get 10% for my Hearing Loss/Tintanitus plus free hearing aids. I would rather have my hearing back but for now thats a pipe dream. I feel zero guilt and don't feel a smidgen bad about getting my payment. I have seen far more troops that were hurt that are not being properly compensated and will make no effort to correct that due to their belief they don't deserve it.

Response by FA Jackie Schlageter made Jan 15 at 2020 3:04 PM

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I received NSC disability for over 20 years. When I was discharged from the Navy they told the guys to sign up for disability if they had received one in service. I was told it wasn't necessary because I had a husband who would take care of me. I now have to fight to get my service connected disability because they said that the records in GA were burned in a fire. I now have a smart DAV rep who is going the extra mile to get me my SC pension. I'm 69 and I hope it does not come through before the LORD calls me home. My husband is only 20% SC for his eyes, his shoulder and his hearing. Trying to get a increase at 69 but wondering if he will get it before he is called home by the LORD.

Response by CPT Don Williams made Jan 15 at 2020 5:18 PM

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No. I do not think so.

Response by SrA Ronald Moore made Jan 15 at 2020 6:34 PM

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No, we should not feel bad about ot at all.After all its' lawfully Right, Approved.We should never feel bad about recieving what help we can get.Some will say we should feel awful,but I will only feel grateful, if a veteran needed this help and The Government is willing to give it,Beside it will stimulate the economy just like others monies given or programs out there

Response by PO3 Mat Mulqueen made Jan 15 at 2020 11:43 PM

2020-01-15T23:43:11-05:00

Cold war vets have some satisfaction, knowing they volunteered even if there were no wars. And when we left no one tried to start any. As we were still a force to reckon with after Korea .
We volunteered to serve not because of the possibility of compensation we might have received if war broke out. But for the "Honor to Serve our country"
Having been exposed to radiation as one of America's "Atomic Veteran's " is an example of injuries that happen during "Peace Time" "Friendly Fire", " The Nuclear bullet we took was from our own", and thought unexpected, we did our time and put our "assets on the line". Other injuries are as stated, part of the Job, so any and all compensation is welcome when you put your time in, and had a disability, any way shape or form.
It took many years , but thank God for our service organization and it founders, Leaders , Orville, and wife Wanda Kelly, their Atomic Veterans Organization, opened the compensation door for us.
No medals, no ribbons, no awards, lip service and shortened life span, but at least compensation. God Bless America and fight for what's right. Feel Bad - Hell No!
Mat Mulqueen U.S. Navy,
life member DAV.

Response by SFC Richard Williamson made Jan 16 at 2020 9:03 AM

2020-01-16T09:03:07-05:00

There is one area or event that I believe does and should deny disability to a veteran and that is IF he/she is AWOL or if the injury is self-inflicted.

Response by SP5 Harlen King made Jan 16 at 2020 10:26 AM

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The Vets who worked on the tanks, jeeps bombers, F-4 fighters, medics-- we are supposed to be a team!!!

Response by PFC Phillip Lord made Jan 16 at 2020 3:10 PM

2020-01-16T15:10:09-05:00

It's only out of necessity that a person would ever want one. I am a 50% retired PFC. I ask you who would want to be a retired PFC? My short but illustrious carrier during peace time service left me with a 30% service connected disability from 1983 to 2014. In 2014 complications arose to the point I became 70% and equal to 100% with the VA. I have pointed out my entire life that i didn't see combat. The key to feeling ok about it all is those two words SERVICE CONNECTED.

Response by SPC Robert Gary made Jan 16 at 2020 3:33 PM

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Our vets deserve everything they get without question

Response by PO2 Charles Nesser made Jan 16 at 2020 5:14 PM

2020-01-16T17:14:18-05:00

If you were injured at work on a civilian job, you’d qualify for workman’s comp to begin with. No you were injured. Even if off duty. Any civilian injured anytime in the US., will be taken care of. Look what Congressional members get for life even if only serve one term. I think at least five times the amount a 100% service connected Nam vet like me, receives.

Response by SP5 Ann Parris made Jan 16 at 2020 5:28 PM

2020-01-16T17:28:34-05:00

No! You've served your time and suffered illness or injury during your service. No reason to feel bad.

Response by LTJG Daniel Von Hoene made Jan 16 at 2020 10:30 PM

2020-01-16T22:30:19-05:00

NO! I was in NAVY and the ships are industrial plants that MOVE. We had engineers hurt by rolling into hot pipes or hitting protrusions. Do you want to be like a WWII destroyer that WELCOMED duty off OKINAWA and KAMIKAZE attacks? WHY? The ship had nearly a DOZEN men killed on ship during convoy duty. The statement from one sailor, "NOW AT LAST WE DIE FIGHTING THE ENEMY! NOT FROM FIGHTING OUR SHIP!"

Response by A1C Kenneth Hopkins made Jan 17 at 2020 10:51 AM

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I am fighting the VA now for an accident we had responding to an alarm into the B52 alert aircraft section and totaled the truck and I slammed off the dashboard but when you have Majors other officers question you almost blaming you for having an accident you don’t say I want to go to the hospital they should have brought all 3 of us there so no in service complaints but have accident report and buddy statement but they insist it happened 20 years after I got out even though I have medical records showing I went for MRI’s and CatScans and other doctors visits for back problems Constantly since getting out and 3 surgeries later still fighting the VA. No I don’t feel bad if I got anything from the VA for back problems because I live in chronic pain because of that accident. We sucked up our little bumps and sores and went on with life not knowing all those years later we will be affected. I’ll keep fighting and am in the appeal process now.

Response by LCpl Dc Dye made Jan 17 at 2020 1:24 PM

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No!!! You, We Served, You are A Veteran. That is your Right!!! Thank You for your Service Sir!!!!

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Jan 17 at 2020 8:15 PM

2020-01-17T20:15:22-05:00

Unless you're somehow getting 200% because you inexplicably fell out of deer stand. I know a guy like that. (Not me)

Response by SN Kristi Kalis made Jan 17 at 2020 10:00 PM

2020-01-17T22:00:11-05:00

Only about 20% of all military members serve in combat. The rest of us do important work. Their service is not more important than ours. Their injuries are not more "worthy" than ours. Service connected injuries are documented no matter what job you did, and therefore are all worthy of compensation.

Response by SGT John Melvin made Jan 18 at 2020 9:34 AM

2020-01-18T09:34:55-05:00

Not as long as service related.

Response by Sgt Robert Hartzog made Jan 18 at 2020 2:16 PM

2020-01-18T14:16:11-05:00

Response by CWO3 Bryan Luciani made Jan 18 at 2020 8:28 PM

2020-01-18T20:28:15-05:00

22 years active, 7 deployments, 13.25 years away from my wife and kids, never ducked a bullet and I get 90%. Considering I can neither stand nor sit for very long (major back issues) as a result of never giving less than 100%, I have zero issue with getting every penny of disability I get. Never forget that most of us are working in very high risk and undesirable places.

Response by TSgt Robert Moore made Jan 19 at 2020 7:09 PM

2020-01-19T19:09:36-05:00

NO. Disability is for service connected injuries NOT combat injuries. Although combat injuries can be included in disability compensation.

Response by PO2 Alvaro Chavez made Jan 19 at 2020 10:32 PM

2020-01-19T22:32:25-05:00

In some places it might be a double edged sword... as my work supervisor and retired veteran feels he shouldn't issue cash awards or time off awards, because most members in the work place receive benefits under the VA....

Response by GySgt Thomas Vick made Jan 20 at 2020 2:15 PM

2020-01-20T14:15:43-05:00

That's one hell of a question, and I personalty feel they shouldn't, if you were injured while you served irregardless of combat or not, I feel you deserve everything you can get.

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2020 4:46 PM

2020-01-20T16:46:15-05:00

Absolutely, NOT !!!

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2020 7:04 AM

2020-01-21T07:04:37-05:00

No they should not. No different then workers compensation in the civilian world.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 21 at 2020 12:37 PM

2020-01-21T12:37:47-05:00

No. If I’m not mistaken the standard is “service related”.

Response by SPC Richard Zacke made Jan 21 at 2020 12:59 PM

2020-01-21T12:59:52-05:00

I want to add to my comments on this subject... My granddaughter is attending George Washington School of Law in D.C. and they want the students to do an internship somewhere well she has her third interview coming up with the Department of Veteran Affairs Appeals Court. I could'nt be prouder. I told her how backlogged they are so she went down and applied. I wish she was there in 1990 to help me with my four year battle for TDIU that I won in 1994 but she was not born till 1999. Maybe she will be able to help one of you in the near future.

Response by SGT Wanda Shepherd made Jan 21 at 2020 4:54 PM

2020-01-21T16:54:51-05:00

The concern I would have is cases that can't be proved service related or have to prove that it's service related. I'm thinking of cancer but also things mentioned in the comments. All service members should be medically covered.

Response by PO3 Jo Berry made Jan 22 at 2020 9:08 PM

2020-01-22T21:08:54-05:00

No, I receive partial disability because I suffer from PTSD and anxiety disorder from being gang raped by my fellow corpsman. I didn't bring that on myself and it happened in the service. I figure if we can pay disability to men would contract syphilis by sleeping with hookers than I deserve what little I'm getting.

Response by PFC Gerald DeVineg made Jan 23 at 2020 9:54 AM

2020-01-23T09:54:15-05:00

Absolutely not ! My husband waited 15 years to finally have his claim acknowledged, having had pneumonia in service & many times over the years since 1956. Still being treated for his lungs.

Response by PFC Walter Hall made Jan 23 at 2020 6:33 PM

2020-01-23T18:33:29-05:00

HELL NO

Response by SGT Arthur Tompkins made Jan 30 at 2020 2:38 PM

2020-01-30T14:38:30-05:00

That is a selfish question. What someone else thinks about another has no relevance on a person's disabilities. We should try looking how we can improve ourselves. HIPA

Response by SMSgt Alan Saunders made Feb 9 at 2020 10:33 PM

2020-02-09T22:33:18-05:00

Not at all! We served - went places we would not have ordinarily gone - endured some abnormal wear and tear on our bodies - and should not feel guilty about receiving compensation for the pain, loss of use, diminished ability, or whatever came as a result.

Response by CPT Ronald Barker made Feb 9 at 2020 11:56 PM

2020-02-09T23:56:04-05:00

I had a tough time deciding to go to the VA, feeling like I didn't go in with any thought of getting a nice pension forty years later. But three things convinced me that I ought to apply: first, I read that agent orange-exposed Vietnam veterans are EIGHT times more likely to get diabetes (and related diseases) than age and population-adjusted control groups. Second, I'm pretty sure no members of Congress would refuse a benefit that Congress itself authorized for them. Finally, my life is probably going to be shorter and is certainly less comfortable due to agent orange exposure. That wouldn't be the case if I'd not volunteered for my tour. Only about one percent of Americans serve, so being in the service is indeed a unique contribution to the country. The VA exists to serve veterans. You should apply and be proud that you are qualified to do so.

Response by SSG Luke Kirkwood made Feb 10 at 2020 12:31 PM

2020-02-10T12:31:47-05:00

You served. You should get paid. Throughout history soldiers have been given some kind of compensation for serving. Romans were given farms, Napoleons troops lived like rockstars. Every time soldiers weren't compensated there have been rebellions. Look up what happened after the revolution. Get your money. VA is going to spend it weather or not you take it anyway.

Response by Sgt Lucinda Cundall made Feb 10 at 2020 8:04 PM

2020-02-10T20:04:21-05:00

Yes veterans who have been injured on the job should receive receive disability. When you join the military you are owned by them. If you get sunburned the service can court marshalled the service member if the sunburn prevents them from performing their duties. I know of an individual who was injured and paralyzed due to a horrible accident caused by a drunk driver who forced them off the road on their way home at christmas time on an authorized leave for the holiday. He was active duty and he received Disability Compensation.

Response by CWO3 Warren Gaudreau made Feb 11 at 2020 12:44 PM

2020-02-11T12:44:21-05:00

I have a 20%. I don't feel bad about the small VA compensation, but my bashed knees sure do. Besides, they take that compensation out of by retirement!

Response by SFC Mark Klaers made Feb 12 at 2020 10:48 AM

2020-02-12T10:48:01-05:00

No! Why should they? Service is service, whether they became disabled from shrapnel, a practice jump or slipped on a wet floor in the chow hall.

Response by LTC Tom Jacobs made Feb 12 at 2020 11:40 AM

2020-02-12T11:40:04-05:00

Those who are gaming the system are the reason deserving veterans are having to wait so long for their cases to get finalized. How does someone rated at 100% for PTSD hold down a full time job? I know of at least two guys doing this. My neighbor, a retired USMC LTC told me one of the Gunnys asked him shortly before he retired if he was going to put in for PTSD because it is pretty much a given. My neighbor told no.

Response by MSG Gerald Steward made Feb 12 at 2020 7:34 PM

2020-02-12T19:34:12-05:00

Hell No

Response by PFC Robert Rudy made Feb 13 at 2020 1:39 PM

2020-02-13T13:39:50-05:00

I need to know more about this

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 6:15 PM

2020-02-13T18:15:04-05:00

Not at all. I am one of those Veterans with Service connected injuries that affect my life after the army and I actually couldn't deploy because of my surgery for a injury. If you got hurt during your honorable service don't feel bad. It's not your fault.

Response by Sgt Adam Jennings made Feb 13 at 2020 7:47 PM

2020-02-13T19:47:05-05:00

I certainly don't feel bad about my compensation. My body was completely healthy prior to joining the Marine Corps at 29. I was a firefighter for 7 years prior to the military with no health issues whatsoever. I joined the Marine Corps and bam, let the health problems begin a few years into it. Anyone that has a problem with my disability being service connected only and not combat related can respectfully kiss my butt.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2020 2:51 AM

2020-02-14T02:51:26-05:00

No by all means the service members shouldnt feel bad because that's what the VA is for...but on the other hand you have a lot of ppl that fake the funk and ruin it for the ones who are really hurt...sad to say...the military has changed sad to say

Response by PO2 Michael Rickey made Feb 14 at 2020 7:43 AM

2020-02-14T07:43:11-05:00

Nono.

Response by SFC Dennis Yancy made Feb 14 at 2020 8:28 AM

2020-02-14T08:28:11-05:00

I am a VSO in my County and I see Veterans that are ripping off VA. Then I get Veterans that feel they do not deserve as they spent no time in combat. One of my Vets enlisted in medical field and got assigned to Hawaii and never left. Took me months to get her to apply for benefits. My view is she enlisted and could have gone to a much more dangerous assignment. She went where she was sent. She served and did honorably and earned what ever benefits she gets. Some of us never got shot at does not mean you didn't serve honorably. Military is not a safe calling and we get hurt and see things our families and friend will never experience.

Response by CPO Roberto Montoto made Feb 14 at 2020 10:25 AM

2020-02-14T10:25:11-05:00

Do NOT feel bad or guilty for being awarded a disability rating by the VA for injuries sustained during your service.
Let's say you are working on a ladder and fall off. You injury your back, permanently. VA gives you a disability rating. You were injured while serving. You were injuried. End of story.
Don't feel guilty or ashamed.

Response by WO1 Craig L Wirth made Feb 14 at 2020 4:22 PM

2020-02-14T16:22:43-05:00

Don't worry about that. It's referred to as service connected injuries and there's nothing to ever be ashamed of. You should ALWAYS keep copies of your records... especially your medical records because the medics go through them and throw a lot of stuff away, (to keep their load down having to transport everyone's records... or so they claim.) Later you'll need ALL of your records because the VA loves to tell us they deny us our claims because we don't have records to prove it.

I first went in back in 1972 and got out the first time in Aug 1975. I went back on active duty in May 1977 and got out again in June 1983. Almost ten years active duty and the VA won't accept my claims for things that happened in my first tour because they say my records were destroyed in a fire in St Louis.

I wonder who got credit for making a time travel machine because I went in in 72 and got out in 75... but somehow they say my records were burned in a fire in 71.

Don't ever feel bad that your injuries aren't combat related. They were still service connected and THAT is what counts. The VA will even take care of any injury you've had.

Response by PO3 Kenneth Suvanto made Feb 14 at 2020 4:53 PM

2020-02-14T16:53:52-05:00

Well, HELL no, call it friendly fire?

Response by CPO Arthur Weinberger made Feb 14 at 2020 5:59 PM

2020-02-14T17:59:36-05:00

No. If you were injured while serving honably; you are entitled. Voluntary veterans are persons to be honored. Thanks to all of you for serving our country

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2020 11:02 PM

2020-02-14T23:02:40-05:00

Vetreran, Sgt. MP Army National Guard

Response by Sgt Timothy Forkes made Feb 16 at 2020 11:43 AM

2020-02-16T11:43:44-05:00

We earned every veteran benefit. Never feel ashamed about getting compensation and NEVER feel like you are taking it from a veteran who you believe is more deserving. We all deserve it.

Response by CPL Dennis Clark made Feb 16 at 2020 4:40 PM

2020-02-16T16:40:59-05:00

Absolutely not! I have received some pretty negative comments, mostly from civilians (or possibly servicemen), related to veteran benefits, discounts, stuff like that. I wound up in a fight with Home Depot corporate once because they stopped giving me veteran discounts but was giving discounts to this other veteran. I contacted corporate to ask why. They told me that I was no longer eligible to receive their veteran discount because I was not still serving, or on 100% disability. Naturally, I posted about it on Facebook, and it went viral. My post was shared by thousands, and I let Home Depot know about it, and also informed them that they were in violation of federal law because federal law states that all veterans are the same and to be treated as such. You either treat all as equal or you don't get involved in doing things for them at all. Suffice it to say I received a comment on my post, from a guy who had pictures of himself in Air Force BDUs but I was unclear as to whether, or not he even served. He then said "you veterans make me sick! You think that you're better than everyone else, and that the entire world owes you a handout, simply because you served! You should all be locked up." Being the nice guy that I am and knowing that I fought for people to have the right to express themselves, via 1st Amendment, I brushed it off but it totally sickened me that there are people out there who feel that way. I know that I earned everything that I receive and I am proud of what I had done. I was Field Artillery in Iraq and my father served in Vietnam, as a combat infantryman. Sadly, he was caught in Agent Orange, and he suffered from it years later. It eventually took his life in 2016. He was on disability for all of it, through the VBA but he pushed to not get that much because like you, he felt bad about receiving the benefits. Toward the end of it he regretted not trying to get more because he realized that my mother was going to really struggle, financially, after he passed away. Shortly before he died he had mentioned that that was one thing he felt real bad about. Don't ever feel bad because not only will it make your life easier, financially but it will help to ensure that your spouse, or beneficiary, will be well taken care of after you pass away... They may receive about 50% of what you bring home from your benefits, until the day they die.

Response by SGT Quentin Moore made Feb 16 at 2020 10:01 PM

2020-02-16T22:01:30-05:00

Nope

Response by SGT Stan Setliff made Feb 17 at 2020 8:20 AM

2020-02-17T08:20:38-05:00

No matter where it's done, when its done, neglecting a PLF and landing flat side ways is never a good thing.

Response by Cpl William OHara made Feb 17 at 2020 9:03 AM

2020-02-17T09:03:54-05:00

I wouldn't say I should feel bad for being a 100% SERVICE connected Vet. But i 100% do. And wish it wasn't like this. Now there is Service connected and Non-Service connected disability. Should that be the question? Should a vet feel bad for receiving non-service connected disability? And knowing a lot of vets with both since I'm down at the Philadelphia VA at least once a week i think no one should feel bad. If you need it take it. If you don't then don't. Thats how a vet explained it to me once. I said "oh your a combat vet why don't you receive Any benefits?" He said "i work and don't need any and thank God i don't. Thats for the vets that need it. I don't need it". I thought that was a great way to put it. Now a little bit about my story is Combat Vet, Iraq, PTSD D&A, was homeless at one time 2012, Now on a road to recovery. And i will say with out the money and benefits of the VA i would be in a bad spot. Bottom line i wish i didn't need them bit do. Should i feel bad for using them no. Do i feel like a smacked ass when people ask oh and what do you do for work? And i have to say "well i do a lot of volunteering and this that but im a disabled vet". Feel like shit every time. But i can say "im not homeless! Im not living in my car! Im not sleeping on the bus to stay warm, i have my family in my life, didn't get my fiancé back Or my old life back, but i did get a life worth living!" And i love waking up every day to my love Annie." Annies my beautiful Pit. Never give up. God Bless America. God Bless the Marines

Response by PO3 Donovan Kosse made Feb 17 at 2020 5:13 PM

2020-02-17T17:13:04-05:00

I don't think anyone should feel bad about getting compensation. I put in for it for my hearing loss and tinitus. But they didn't think 20 months in a twin 5 inch 38 had any affect on me.. The worst part is a lot of my friends have gotten hearing aids and a 10% disability and most of them hardly shot a gun... I spent a lot of time on the gun line in Viet Nam on a destroyer, sometimes 6 hrs on and 6hrs. off...

Response by SSgt Rick Glime made Feb 17 at 2020 6:36 PM

2020-02-17T18:36:40-05:00

Well, did you feel bad being awarded a Meritorious Service Medal, or Comendation Medal? Being awarded disability took some getting used to, but you shouldn't feel bad, nor, be made to feel bad.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2020 7:51 PM

2020-02-17T19:51:31-05:00

As a disabled Coast Guardsman I was very secretive about my service connected disability. I broke my back and was temporarily paralyzed. And lost 5 friends during a heavy weather rescue mission. But as most Coasties know 99% of our missions are non-combat yet we suffer from injuries just the same. And we die during these non-combat mission. I feel if I were a soldier, sailor, marine,or airmen injured during a mission, the process of putting in for a service related clam would have been a bit easier. I took me more then 10 years to get rated and my PTSD was denied because it was not in combat. So yes I feel very sad about the whole process.

Response by PO2 Brian Ruddy made Feb 18 at 2020 8:22 AM

2020-02-18T08:22:08-05:00

No, if you volunteer to give up your life it’s the least the government can do to say thank you.

Response by SSG Timothy McCoy made Feb 18 at 2020 10:25 PM

2020-02-18T22:25:18-05:00

Hail No!!
Those Non-combat injuries, ( my rotator cuff) compound my combat injuries ( broken back T-11 /L-1) .
When I get out of bed, and reach out to the wall to steady myself, will my shoulder hold me steady?
Tell me I am not worthy of my compensation. Yeah RIGHT.
AATW
Tim

Response by Sgt John Curtin made Feb 19 at 2020 9:09 AM

2020-02-19T09:09:34-05:00

Never. Never feel bad for SERVICE CONNECTED INJURIES. Not e very solider, sailor or airman do combat, and injuries happen everyday , everywhere, not just combat related

Response by PV2 Richard Jackson made Feb 19 at 2020 3:09 PM

2020-02-19T15:09:48-05:00

Servicevdisabilities of all sorts should be compensated. If they were not service connected no.
Tyey would probably not have that wound or any other'

Response by CPL Quinton Reed made Feb 19 at 2020 6:17 PM

2020-02-19T18:17:48-05:00

I hope I can weigh in. after being enlisted 1a I served time until I had a major medical issue. this point changed every direction I intended and it is still with me medically. After serving I had many jobs but not a great deal of knowledge. Well fuck. So short story the military said not to any issue they that they say is from an out side source. My lungs collapsed and they said I had the problem prior to their accepting me and now its all on me. so after a time I did learn things. attn: while you are serving, NOT after discharge. you need a full medical work up. Prior to discharge! When I found out that my sleep apnea was a disability" only if it were diagnosed while in service" that explained why I mostly had a barracks room to my self. Its worth about 50% for those getting older. My issues should have been covered but there are no docs to challenge the treasonous democratic party. just get the know prior and present it BEFORE your discharge. you are aslo and should be in position of your medical jacket. I had mine for years. ….. ex wife.... another story

Response by SN Bryan King made Feb 21 at 2020 3:25 PM

2020-02-21T15:25:02-05:00

No we should not, as a matter of fact we should have better benefits then the people who claim to love us in the house and senate for life.

Response by SrA Scott Baer made Feb 28 at 2020 12:17 PM

2020-02-28T12:17:48-05:00

I am unfortunately a perfect example of what happens if you don't complain to the VA after injuring myself while serving. It was the last few days at my last base and for whatever reason, I was put on a base work detail instead being home and packing with my ex along with helping out with 11month old. That detail of shifting 50 metal beds for 50 wooden, included myself and one other Airman.. This bleep told me right from the start, I'm being booted(dishonorable for dealing drugs), so why should I bother helping. In hindsight, I probably should have gone to HQ and asked for somebody else, but I was quite honestly pissed off and just wanted to get it done and get home. Huge mistake.. Some beds later, I strained my back and carried on. Struggled with cases over the next few days arriving at Maguire and carried on struggling for guessing a week or so after(this was July 84')

Never thought, I should've gone to the base docs(very small base with tiny medical station and rarely seen anyway). I was raised like most of us in the military to just get on with it and not complain. That and well, it wasn't a combat situation so ignorantly thought it would be lame to complain..Eventually finally hired for first job as civilian and my back was not playing ball. Docs treated me as if I didn't want to work which hit my pride hard as worked through HS and then volunteered for military. Lost several jobs, until my last job which finally blew out my L5/S! disc and well work comp bs and welfare. The humilation over the years added up, and decided to move to the UK with ex as she was British. Moronic really as impossible to hide from yourself.

From 84' to that last job in December 92' it never occurred to me that I was entitled to ask for help from the military where I originally had the injury and now no real proof as never went to that base Dr and ex now claims she doesn't recall. I now have a VSO helping but not holding my breath. yeah I know, boring long story but it proved to me that pride can kick your butt and take away a considerable amount of your life away. During that time I thought heavily about how to not exist, gathered my meds, and prepared with razor blade for bath. Final humiliation was daughter finding out and hell that put her through...and she made me promise to get help and never put her through that again. I haven't and hopefully never will again but I really did not give a flock at the time as living sucked more.. So please brothers and sisters, if dealing with mental trauma, ask for help and keep asking until you find the right person or place as they do exist and one day you will be glad you fought for you...

Response by Sgt Ivan Boatwright made Mar 1 at 2020 9:53 PM

2020-03-01T21:53:26-05:00

Why should they? Part of the promise made to us at our enlistment is that the military would take care of us if we took and put our lives on the line for our country. We paid the price and earned the benefit.

Response by CPT William Jones made Mar 11 at 2020 6:56 PM

2020-03-11T18:56:27-04:00

The VA was setup to treat all SERVICE connected medical problems. Nothing says you problem must be combat related

Response by SFC William Allen made Mar 15 at 2020 11:07 AM

2020-03-15T11:07:19-04:00

Not even a little bit. I broke my ankle while in Germany in Hohenfels (which is german for "Colder than a witches T*t!) and my ankle got messed up afterwards. I am now receiving $140.00 a month tax free for the rest of my life (BTW, that amount is pulled from my retirement pay-I'm kinda loosing money) but I earned every penny of that. Anybody who says otherwise never had it happen to them and should shut the h**l up! Please pardon the language.

Response by 1SG John Highfill made Mar 15 at 2020 5:54 PM

2020-03-15T17:54:55-04:00

No if it’s service connected you deserve treatment and compensation

Response by PO2 David Allender made Mar 18 at 2020 11:13 AM

2020-03-18T11:13:14-04:00

If you receive an injury while serving and the injury results in you not being able to perform your duties in service, there is nothing to be ashamed of. Accidents happen to many people in life whither in service on not. Never be ashamed of what happened and the results.

Response by Edward Samsen made Mar 22 at 2020 2:43 PM

2020-03-22T14:43:38-04:00

VA Disability compensation is for "SERVICE RELATED" disabilities, not just combat related. No service member should feel bad about receiving disability compensation, the disability occurred as a result of in service activities, therefore it is SERVICE RELATED.

Response by SPC Bill Ratajczak made Mar 22 at 2020 6:52 PM

2020-03-22T18:52:57-04:00

I got a medical discharge back in the 80's with a percentage and felt ashamed for many years. I felt a failure and the whole process reinforced the feeling. Alcoholic and suicidal I bounced around for years. Went to the Va for help after 15 years and was given pills and shoved out the door. I feel all that crap coming back with this covid19.

Response by 1SG John Highfill made Mar 22 at 2020 7:15 PM

2020-03-22T19:15:50-04:00

Never

Response by Sgt Jude Eschete made Mar 24 at 2020 11:19 AM

2020-03-24T11:19:54-04:00

I don't think so, I lost a lot of hearing working in server rooms and near generators. It makes college pretty tough when I can't sit near the front. It's nice to know that the VA admits that being in the service lowered my quality of life and they're taking care of it.

Response by SP5 Nathan Jackson made Mar 26 at 2020 2:33 PM

2020-03-26T14:33:52-04:00

my feet are so bad, the police impounded my car, threw me in jail, after being stopped at a check point. I don't drink. on the way to jail I made them stop by hospital for blood test. $4.8k and a year later all charges dropped. the doctors said my feet would get messed up and put it in my med. records before I reached boot camp. they were right, it only took 10 days in those dam boots, I was crippled. the medical treatment for this, was an extra hour of boot camp in the morning before any one woke up, and at the end of the day, as every one went into the dorms I had to go out for another hour or 2 of marching. by week 6, I couldn't walk or march. they literally carried me to my final PT. test. my first year in the army, my feet were crippled, my anckles , knees, back and shoulder pain were listed as related to the feet. why I would piss blood after PT., they didn't say. all I knew was food slowed down after it went past my stomach and required 2 glasses of water. I served my country from march 93, to 1998, and treated or saved or 60 lives as a certified professional rescuer (stopped counting) . I have no guilt over the 10% disability they give me for the ringing in my ears.
(IYF) Not even the President of the United States could get treatment for high arches from the Army up to 1995. I only know this because one of his top brass military saw my feet after I saved his kid and restored his vitals. within a week the Airforce (Langely), the Navey (Norfolk), and the Army (FT.Eustis) were calling me about my feet. that was the only time my feet got acknowledged

Response by SSG Michael Doolittle made Mar 30 at 2020 1:32 AM

2020-03-30T01:32:48-04:00

Yes, as long as there is one veteran out there who was injured in the line of duty (Physical & Mental) or one combat veteran left out who has suffered PTSD in silence.... I know a guy who was in Thailand during Vietnam, got drunk and fell off of a truck, got a small scar over his eye, and got 15% for facial disfiguring for the past 52 years, now he is getting 100% because his drinking and life caused kidney failure.... He has a substantial retirement from the Post Office as an mid level supervisor... So now he is getting 35K and change from the VA & 50K from the post office....

Response by TSgt David Olson made Mar 30 at 2020 12:03 PM

2020-03-30T12:03:22-04:00

This is the true story of a former Marine officer. He was on AD on the West Coast. His unit was engaged in some drill. He was in a 2 1/2 truck, at the tailgate, the truck pulled forward and he was pitched out. He broke a bone or two and the Corps medically discharged him. He was receiving a VA non-combat 40% disability. He went to work for the Post Office. He made no bones about how his injuries occurred or receiving a VA disability in his relating to me his story.

Response by MAJ Terry Mathews made Apr 18 at 2020 1:35 AM

2020-04-18T01:35:47-04:00

While I was in the Reserve I was driving home from drill on a Sat PM, never finished that drive. The next 20 days were spent in the hospital as a result of the injuries sustained. These injuries were considered to be in the line of duty (LOD - yes) as you are considered to be on duty from the time you leave your residence and until you return to your residence. I continued in the Reserves with a profile, got back on Active duty with the profile and would have stayed to get 20 years of active time. Unfortunately I came down with blood clots in my lungs for no reason they could find (I still think burn pits exposure had something to do with it), and was put on a blood thinner. Went to a Medical board, who despite me still being able to my job, having just completedmy Masters degree via the Army Baylor program and continue with the same profile, decided to retire me as all of the earlier issues were considered and counted towards my disability score. I was about a year and a quarter from being promoted at the time I was retired.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2020 2:12 AM

2020-04-18T02:12:59-04:00

No way. In contrast, there are many I know I'm currently active duty with trying to get out of military with 100% medical benefits claiming they breathed in some burning garbage for 2 months. To the other extreme, my granddad never got benefits and he was a boilermaker for 20 years in WWII and Korea and was never given help.
Only reason I bring that up is if you're in between these two, you should be fine in receiving benefits.

Response by CH (CPT) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2020 5:08 PM

2020-04-22T17:08:48-04:00

Absolutely not. I am a retired battalion chaplain working as a professional counselor, along with my clinic director who is a retired CPT MP battalion commander, now and I meet with veterans frequently who are suffering for mental disorders because of their service just as much an a soldier may suffer from a physical wound. I want to encourage all to please seek mental health services if you are dealing with issues. I know that I as well as my colleagues around the country and deployed as civilians are here to serve you. Mental health is just as important as physical health and we want to help all our brothers and sisters in service. Hooah!

Response by CW5 Mark Smith made Apr 25 at 2020 1:48 PM

2020-04-25T13:48:41-04:00

It's the military equivalent of Workman's Compensation. Feel bad about having a disability but not being compensated for it.

Response by SGT Robert Andrews made May 3 at 2020 9:57 PM

2020-05-03T21:57:37-04:00

Why would you even ask? How many mile do you ruck in training how many push ups do you do in a lifetime? I bet in the time I served in the army 87-09 you couldn't figure out that number. How many PT tests and how much training for pt tests? Really? You serve long enough in the military the miles catch up.

Response by CPO Arthur Weinberger made May 24 at 2020 1:35 PM

2020-05-24T13:35:49-04:00

I one gets injured while performing his or her duties; you need not be ashamed. This is part of life.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2020 5:20 PM

2020-05-24T17:20:09-04:00

Absolutely not. Part of my VA rating is for my shoulder which is directly related to some bad lands during training jumps. The only time I think a veteran should feel bad is if it's a fraudulent claim

Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made May 25 at 2020 12:46 AM

2020-05-25T00:46:39-04:00

No, you were working for the Department of Defense when injured.

Response by MCPO Ronnie Pinkston made Jun 4 at 2020 9:27 AM

2020-06-04T09:27:28-04:00

No not at all. There are some I have my doubts about due to how they would dodge work while they were active and I question,but the majority deserve what they receive for their in service injuries and long term health issues from arduous duties. So no take it and move on to live with the pains.

Response by CPL Patrick Holbrook made Jun 5 at 2020 2:49 AM

2020-06-05T02:49:22-04:00

Response by PO2 S. M. Rhim [Rdc/Mts/Plankowner/Shellback/9502/9508] made Jun 9 at 2020 2:40 PM

2020-06-09T14:40:41-04:00

All Vets, all branches! First and foremost, my disdain, for the Veterans SCD benefits "process"!
Is that, the very Veteran Service Officers [VSO]. That are in place, to aid the veteran obtain, their SCD earned benefits! Do more to Disqualify the veteran! Then too Qualify the veteran!
Whom served with Honor, in Combat [Survived two mine strikes while on board the USS PRINCETON CG-59/1988-1992]. During Operation Desert Storm! And earning a Honorable Discharge!
Any veterans have the contact information, to an attorney that they have used, or know!
That helped them in suing the V.A.! For their repeated denial of increased veterans compensation/ rating! As well as the DAV, for dereliction of duty! The details/timeline, that I've dealt with the VA/DAV. Are enough to be a Masters or PhD thesis! Follow-up, thanks in advance, and Smooth Sailing! SM2/RDC/MTS

Response by Capt Carlos Bernal made Jun 13 at 2020 5:42 PM

2020-06-13T17:42:36-04:00

I am still trying to get C&P for combat related injuries from the VA. What non-combat related injuries can I apply for ?

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Jun 14 at 2020 9:55 PM

2020-06-14T21:55:43-04:00

Why? I draw a modest VA disability pay for injuries I suffered from military service. I've got arthritis, and trust me, it hurts. There are already measures in place to pay more compensation to service members for injuries suffered in combat and during combat training, and in most cases that compensation is tax-free. I am entirely in favor of service members disabled in battle to get as much compensation as they can - they have earned it. That doesn't mean the rest of us who suffer from medical conditions related to our military service shouldn't get disability pay. We're not competing with one another for disability pay. Anyone who tries to compel us to make that false choice should be set straight.

Response by LCDR Mike Morrissey made Jun 14 at 2020 11:21 PM

2020-06-14T23:21:14-04:00

Actually this question is asked by many and often comes from a misunderstanding or lack of knowledge. There are disability compensation rates for service non-combat disabilities and for combat related. There are additional allowances for specific anatomical losses and special needs. There is a pension system for unemployable vet; it's income based. Then there military service disability retirements. How all of these do or don't interrelate often takes a well versed consultant.

I've received a 100% non-combat award related to Agent Orange. I saw combat on the rivers but never directly wounded, though some would say AO was a direct one. My wife came back from Desert Storm and over the years we noticed a degradation that finally crossed over a threshold and I had also just discovered the Desert Storm Syndrome VA rating. God, she fit nearly every symptom. We filed, and 2 months later at the C&P she was rated 100% on the spot.

A good deal of the problems (not all) in applying to the VA is in not researching the symptoms listed in 38CFR, not dotting i's and crossing t's, coupled with guys trying to macho it through. I had a vet with AO post -prostate surgiery urination issues who only received 10% when he was eligible for 20% because he wasn't completely honest. Now it becomes more difficult to up the rating.

Response by SP5 Mark Drake made Jun 15 at 2020 3:19 PM

2020-06-15T15:19:16-04:00

NO! If you were disabled from duty related issues, compensation should be awarded.

Response by CDR Tom Davy made Jun 21 at 2020 7:28 AM

2020-06-21T07:28:34-04:00

I have a 30% VA Disability. I enlisted at 17 and left active duty at 40, lots of physical changes, but no combat injuries. I received my letter documenting my 30% and disability payment and requesting me to come to the VAMC to get my ID.
I walked in, without assistance, ten fingers and ten toes, and showed my letter and got my ID.
As I left, I passed by vets who were disabled from combat, confined to a wheelchair, missing limbs, burns, etc. I felt empty. How could I be "disabled"?
I'm a Medical Service Corps officer and I understand the difference between a service-connected vs. my disability, but on a gut level, I still feel guilty when I show my VA Disability ID.

Response by SGT Michael Hearn made Jun 22 at 2020 5:48 AM

2020-06-22T05:48:24-04:00

ABSOLUTELY NOT when you raised your right hand you wrote a blank check to the government
They don't give disability away if you don't deserve it You don't get it. I have been 100%SC FOR 24 YEARS

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Jun 25 at 2020 7:44 PM

2020-06-25T19:44:17-04:00

Civilians didn't ask should this GI get his ass shot up.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Jun 25 at 2020 7:45 PM

2020-06-25T19:45:21-04:00

No.

Response by SGT Tim Tobin made Jul 10 at 2020 2:11 PM

2020-07-10T14:11:03-04:00

It’s interesting. I felt that way. I didn’t think my problems were all that serious when I went to the VA and saw combat related injuries. But the way it was explained to me was, I am not taking away from anyone. If I had a problem caused by the military I was just as deserving as any other vet. I have only a 10% but it has opened the doors to even better care at the VA

Response by LCpl Brad Gross made Jul 10 at 2020 4:30 PM

2020-07-10T16:30:16-04:00

I know being one freaked me out at first cause I’m sure my neighbors either thought I was crazy or full of it but once I figured myself out I was ok with and if their not o well

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2020 7:58 PM

2020-07-10T19:58:01-04:00

Negative SGT. I don't feel bad at all for getting compensated for my runner's knees. If the AF wanted us all to be track stars, they will have to live with the repercussions of those policies.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Jul 10 at 2020 11:45 PM

2020-07-10T23:45:41-04:00

As I understand it, the ratings are designated as "service related" not "combat related". To me, this says ANY injury/disability caused by direct performance of military duties is eligible for compensation. Why would someone feel guilty for that? You got hurt while in the performance of official duties. The exact manner/nature is irrelevant in my opinion. Hurt is hurt and should be compensated as appropriate.

Response by Cpl Alex Moore made Jul 11 at 2020 6:16 PM

2020-07-11T18:16:21-04:00

I have voiced my opinion on this and it remains the same. The military is the only occupation that does not require some for of worker's compensation insurance. If you are injured on the job there is no financial protection for the employee. Being a member of the military, you are, in a lot of aspects, an employee. VA disability is that worker's compensation. If you are injured on any other job, worker's compensation takes care of you and can do so quite possibly for the rest of your life. If you are killed on the job, worker's compensation provides burial benefits and will most likely provide a very large check to your family. The VA provides many of these benefits. If you stop looking at the military as so special institution and another employer that puts the VA in an entirely different light.

My personal story is this, I am a non-combat injured vet with a disability rating. I collect a fairly large check from the VA every year. I had multiple injuries when I got out, knees and a very damaged shoulder amongst them. My knees can't be repaired so I live in pain everyday till they are severe enough to replace. That may be 20 years or more. My shoulder was so severe that it finally had to be operated on. The VA refused to do it and even tried to say it wasn't injured (sometimes they are idiots). I proved it to a private doctor, that I had never seen, in 5 minutes and had surgery a month later. I will still have nerve damage in the arm, probably for the rest of my life, but at least the shoulder works. Keep in mind, these are all from training and work incidents. None are combat related. You tell me, should I, or anybody in my situation, feel bad about compensation for what the military took away? I get to deal with pain and future medical problems, not the military. In my opinion disability compensation is the least I am owed.

Response by TSgt George Austin made Jul 12 at 2020 12:59 AM

2020-07-12T00:59:43-04:00

Not at all. You were wherever you were solely because the military put you there is that position at that time. I was hit by a drunk driver in Italy while serving. Should I not receive my 10% for the destroyed knee it left me with.

Response by PFC David Gettman made Jul 13 at 2020 8:29 AM

2020-07-13T08:29:26-04:00

Awe hell no I don't feel ashamed. Never been anywhere near combat and I receive over $3000 a month in service connected disability. The vast majority of it comes from tackling an E-6 who was on fire just feet from what is left of this Sheridan and being blown over a small fence just seconds later in a massive explosion that totally destroyed the tank. I was recommended for the Soldier's Medal but never received it because nobody saw what I did.

Response by Cpl Tou Lee Yang made Jul 16 at 2020 3:39 PM

2020-07-16T15:39:52-04:00

is it my fault that my body is broken from all the training? carrying 100lbs for miles just to prepare for combat, constant PT to keep my body in shape regardless if i'm injured or not to be ready for combat. we all went into service as healthy individual, that's why we had to pass an intensive medical evaluation to qualify. only job i had, where i had to spread my butt to get a job.

Response by PO3 Francis Coughlin made Jul 25 at 2020 10:09 PM

2020-07-25T22:09:11-04:00

No you've earned it.

Response by Pvt SanJuana Méndez made Jul 27 at 2020 1:16 AM

2020-07-27T01:16:11-04:00

Got to wonder, where should service connection line be drawn, especially when "injury" in question is post traumatic stress?

I first filed claim for compensation more than 15 yrs ago when I realized I've suffered from depression since I learned my discharge was finite, & I would not be able to enlist at later time as I'd been led to believe. That claim was denied on basis that I'd had a child before 1st anniversary of military separation. That, to me, means I was service connected 'til Day 366 of discharge. I learned 2 months after separation that I wouldn't be able to reenlist, so I had to have still been service connected when I was "sucker-punched." If I hadn't been injured in this manner, I wouldn't have been so vulnerable when I was raped & that raped wouldn't have resulted in pregnancy Dept of Veteran Affairs used as basis for denying my 1st claim. I was aware that women in military service were subject dishonorable discharge.

Dept of Veteran Affairs, imo, is always fishing for some reason to deny veterans' benefits. I've come to that determination in yrs since learning nearly 21 yrs ago that I could call myself a veteran, & it has all been made apparent thruout this time by analysis of different factors that have come to light during those 21 yrs.

First factor was my curiosity over only thing that arose at separation hearing. I was asked if I'd ever read The Prophesy by Jeanne Dixon. When I asked why I'd been asked, only explanation I got was that there was chapter about President Kennedy's assassination in book. Thru the yrs, I've realized question was aimed at fact Ms. Dixon had tried to discourage him from going to Dallas 'cause she sensed tragedy that awaited him there. In my case, I had tried to convince my CO that my newly orphaned siblings needed me as their matron (am oldest of 7 children our parents had) after we lost our last surviving parent. As oldest child of Native American mother when had supernatural sensitivity, I believed I was responsible for their emotional wellbeing at this tragic time. I could have explained my upbringing (eldest responsible for younger sibs in absence of parents) if I'd gotten more extensive explanation than "chapter about President Kennedy."

It was bad enough that, as female recruit, I wasn't offered hardship discharge when I requested "indefinite leave of absence," instead of being told there was no such thing. I wasn't offered spiritual guidance to get thru trauma of how I'd become family matron. Only emotional "guidance" I received was psych eval given to determine readiness for "him" to return to civilian life. Only legal guidance I received was when I was told how hearing would proceed. I wasn't provided with legal counsel at hearing & I can't help but wonder if there's even a transcript of my separation hearing. There was certainly no explanation of contents of docs I signed. Begs the question: is code cited for basis of separation (only word that makes sense is "Attitude") is reason I was hardly employable during my marketable yrs (1971-2017)?

Much has changed since I served in 1971. Now, you become veteran after serving one yr. Women with children can serve if they have someone to take custody of children while mother serves. Women are compensated if they suffer sexual trauma. Tricky point to this last point is that trauma must be life-or-death. This means V.A. can continue ruining our lives (life-altering situations) & we can't contend that they're responsible for PTSD.

Response by SMSgt Jeff Kyle made Aug 10 at 2020 1:49 AM

2020-08-10T01:49:57-04:00

No. You earned it through your service.

Response by SPC Mark Stevens made Feb 26 at 2021 11:07 PM

2021-02-26T23:07:15-05:00

If you got the disability doing honorable service (combat or no combat), then no, there is no shame. You performed a valuable service for your country, and the disability that was a result of that duty should be taken care of properly and with respect by your country.

Response by PO2 S.J. Carroll made May 5 at 2021 6:10 PM

2021-05-05T18:10:29-04:00

Not at all. From the moment we join, we are told we are ALL important to the mission. For every person in combat, there are nine supporting him/her to complete their mission? The cook is important...even Napoleon admitted that. The mail clerks keep their mail coming, and that boosts their morale. Without supply clerks, the armament, the artillery would be useless. The medics keep them well...and so many others who are there to make sure the combatants come home again!

Response by Sgt Richard Melching made Jul 19 at 2021 7:51 AM

2021-07-19T07:51:32-04:00

Absolutely not, most veterans I’ve never seen combat but serve their country in the best way that they can. Whether in combat or not and if you were injured or have a disease due to serving your country, you should never feel bad about being awarded VA Disability compensation.
No Veteran should ever feel bad about getting disability compensation for serving their country.
Even if you served when there was no war, or there was no declared war. All veterans should be treated the same and all veterans deserve VA compensation.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Aug 6 at 2021 1:14 PM

2021-08-06T13:14:46-04:00

EXACTLY the opposite, it shows that the military recognizes a service connected condition

Response by SGT Lorenzo Nieto made Aug 12 at 2021 6:13 PM

2021-08-12T18:13:21-04:00

No as log as it happens while on active duty.

Response by SP5 Sam Powell made Aug 16 at 2021 8:51 PM

2021-08-16T20:51:58-04:00

Not unless you want to compare your injuries with someone injured in combat. I was there in the thick of it and didn't get injured. Do I feel guilty. Luck of the draw. Get over it

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2021 11:58 AM

2021-08-27T11:58:24-04:00

I've thought about that a lot. I'm not one for asking for military discounts for cheap things are wearing my service outside of uniform. But I think that in this age of most soldiers blowing their knees out pushing a dead truck in the motor pool rather than a bullet or shrapnel, getting disability or va care for non-combat related issues shouldn't be something to feel guilty about.

Response by PVT Ian Burke made Feb 20 at 2022 11:49 AM

2022-02-20T11:49:31-05:00

How can you know if a injury is by terrorists or accidental friendly fire?? An injury is an injury, no matter who is responsible for the inury.....

Response by SMSgt Anil Heendeniya made Oct 14 at 2022 3:48 PM

2022-10-14T15:48:15-04:00

Ah, someone who thinks occupational injuries occur solely in a war zone. SMH
You should spend some time in emergency rooms and you'll see the not-insignificant statistics of workplace-related injuries. That may avail you of some sense of perspective, not to mention enlarge your worldview which is clearly focused on one thing and maybe--just maybe--you'll acquire some humanity for others in uniform who had the bad taste to get injured working on the job for flag and country.

Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made Oct 14 at 2022 5:25 PM

2022-10-14T17:25:35-04:00

Long Story, But Just To Make It Short.... I Was Honorably Discharged In June Of 1965.
My Very First Appointment With The VA Doctors Was Around 1998..
At That Point I Was TOTALLY Misdiagnosed...
And Of Course, Prescribed The Entirely WRONG Medications, Driving Me Into SEVERE Mental Illness...
I Was Suicidal, Was In And Out Of The ER & Hospital; For OVER 9 Years....
Damned Doctors, Of Which Were Several, Rotated In And Out, REFUSING My Request For A Re-Diagnosis
...... FINALLY, One More Rotated In; Dr. Gray.
He Talked To Me For LESS Than 5 Minutes And Said:
"Who In "L" Told You You're Bi-Polar.? You're NOT"!!
Took Me Off The Medication...I Was "Cured" In Less Than 2 Weeks..
The MEDICATION Was Which Was The Problem, Due TO The Misdiagnosis
By The Very FIRST DOCTOR

Along With THAT Beauty: I Was Eventually (A Little At A Time) Sick As All Hell..
My Primary Said "I Can't Find Anything Wrong With You"...
And Refused My Requests For Physical Exams Because HE Couldn't Find Any Problem
Results?... EMERGENCY Surgery For A Critical Liver Infection & a MONTH In The Hospital, Followed By Daily Visits From An RN For Injections Of More Antibiotics....
NONE Military Connected;
But As I'm I'm Sitting Here, With Difficulty Breathing, On Oxygen, With Nephropathy To Both feet And Now, One Hand Too; In Continuous Pain. 24/7; And On As Much Pain Relievers As Allowed.
..And I'm Finally APPLYING For Disability...(Still Waiting To Hear Back)
SHOULD IT BE APPROVED?
And Believe Me, THIS IS "The Short Version"..... There Were Many Other Issues Along The Way As Well.
I'm Now On Medicare & South West Medical Of Las Vegas, Is Doing What They Can..
But Most Of The Issues Are Now Permanent. ......

Response by 1SG Michael Farrell made Oct 14 at 2022 11:57 PM

2022-10-14T23:57:48-04:00

i WAS FORTUNATE, WHEN i RETIRED BECAUSE THE ARMY AND VA WERE INVOLVED IN A PILOT PROGRAM WHERE THE VA TOOK WHAT THE ARMY SAID. HOWEVER, I DID MAKE A CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT ALTHOUGH ELIGIBLE TO INCREASE THE DISABILITY RATING, I WOULD NOT APPLY UNTIL THERE WERE NO SOLDIERS IN LINE FROM GWOT AND WHEN CONCURRENT RECEIPT IS FOR EVERYONE. IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING OLD AND WORSE FROM GETTING HURT ON DUTY.

Response by A1C Isa Kocher made Oct 15 at 2022 8:08 AM

2022-10-15T08:08:08-04:00

god no!

the us military is responsible: you enlist, you serve, and any injury your receive deserves all the compensation you can get. or you were drafted. anyone doing air conditioning, or house painting or filing paper who gets injured OTJ deserves compensation. it does not matter what job it is you do. and anyone who is injured by watching a movie, or riding in their car, or eating a macdonalds apple pie because of recklessness deserves all the compensation they can get. companies injure people right and left and tort laws are now so restricted you spend a million dollars in legal fees to get enough money to buy band aids maybe.

anyone on va disability has lived through more than enough humiliation and accusation and va lies already. any veteran who gets through the adjudicate to deny va deserves a medal for bravery. the idea that your military service is not worth respect is insuilting. I don't care if all you did was clean tables or empty trash baskets. Serving your country is an honor: it deserves all the respect you can get.

Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Oct 15 at 2022 10:50 AM

2022-10-15T10:50:22-04:00

Absolutely not, especially in view of the Campl LeJuene and all the areas affected by Agent Orange. Likewise with those injured in stateside and other areas. I think the VA tries - sometimes too hard or with individual raters' bias, to weed out fakers which sometimes has a negative impact on legitimate claims.

Response by MSG Thomas Currie made Oct 15 at 2022 10:53 AM

2022-10-15T10:53:17-04:00

WHY?!?

That may well be the silliest question ever posted on RP (and there have certainly been quite a few really bad ones before and since).

Since VA disability compensation is only for service connected conditions and injuries, we are talking about people who were injured in the line of duty, not just while in the military.

Every service member should certainly expect that the government will compensate them for injuries received in the line of duty, regardless of whether that duty is in combat or not.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Oct 15 at 2022 11:36 AM

2022-10-15T11:36:37-04:00

No.

Response by SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM made Nov 19 at 2022 8:56 PM

2022-11-19T20:56:08-05:00

No not really!

Response by SGT Ruben Lozada made Nov 19 at 2022 9:40 PM

2022-11-19T21:40:38-05:00

Excellent question. No Veteran should feel ashamed. Because there are many times that an individual gets hurt in garrison, and I don't see why that individual can't put in a claim for that injury when He or She seperates from the Military. Ironically, there are a lot of individuals that never get to deploy, and that shouldn't stop Him or Her from putting in a claim just because of a guilty conscience of not beimg deployed.

Response by MSG Darold R. made Nov 19 at 2022 10:52 PM

2022-11-19T22:52:54-05:00

Absolutely not!

Response by MGySgt Samuel Steen made Nov 20 at 2022 12:15 AM

2022-11-20T00:15:27-05:00

No, they should never feel bad or guilty because,,if you’re injured while serving on active duty you should be able to be compensated for your disabilities caused while serving. I encourage all veterans that were injured and caused a disability you should be compensated regardless of what anyone says, that’s why we have a Veterans Administration.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Nov 20 at 2022 2:08 AM

2022-11-20T02:08:02-05:00

Civilians sure as hell don't.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2022 10:53 AM

2022-11-20T10:53:23-05:00

I wouldn't think so.

Response by Maj John Bell made Nov 20 at 2022 11:20 AM

2022-11-20T11:20:48-05:00

No.

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Nov 21 at 2022 5:07 PM

2022-11-21T17:07:12-05:00

Absolutely not. It's no different than being injured on a job and getting worker's compensation and long term disability. If you get injured on the job, it's on the job.

Response by CPL Christopher Thomas made Nov 29 at 2022 1:23 PM

2022-11-29T13:23:45-05:00

Hell no, I blew both my knees out in BCT running at night stepped in a pothole. Sucked it up because I didn't want to get recycled. Spent 10 more years serving my country. In that time, jacked my shoulder up and fortunately or unfortunately (depends on how you look at it) I was never deployed. No anyone who raised their right hand to protect against foreign and domestic threats should never feel bad about getting disability.

Response by CPL Christopher Thomas made Nov 29 at 2022 1:24 PM

2022-11-29T13:24:17-05:00

Response by SN John Dilley made Nov 29 at 2022 11:32 PM

2022-11-29T23:32:38-05:00

Short answer: No.

Response by CPL Tom Walker made Nov 30 at 2022 4:44 PM

2022-11-30T16:44:52-05:00

Huh? What sense does it make to think service related injuries only deserve compensation if they're combat related? I collect non-combat related disability for hearing loss from artillery fire (early 1970s). That's a condition I'll carry with me until the day I die. Whether or not it was in combat, my MOS required that I expose myself to the danger that noise posed. Without my hearing aids benefit I'd be nearly deaf. No, I don't think I should, and I don't, feel bad about receiving the assistance I get.

Response by SSgt Jeanine Cousin made Dec 1 at 2022 12:09 AM

2022-12-01T00:09:28-05:00

In my opinion, no. Every award that was or "is" earned is done so because you have volunteered to
represent your country. God Bless you.

Response by Thomas Jones made Dec 1 at 2022 12:39 AM

2022-12-01T00:39:39-05:00

NO! Not at all! My dad was in Vietnam on an air base. He didn't get shot or or anything... what he did do was walk through big puddles of Agent Orange every God damn day. The is 75 now and has Parkinsons and a huge list of problems, attributed to it. Awhile back they actually acknowledged that it also effects the female children of people that were exposed, but not male children... lol
Anyway, I can understand the hesitancy to claiming disability when you didn't get shot or blown up, but don't let it stop you. There are injuries that aren't always as noticeable but are no less debilitating.
You fought for your country, we as a country owe you the respect and if you were injured regardless of a piece of metal being imbeded in your body or not... I for one have no problem with any form of disability. You did your duty and we thank you for it. If you need help, it should always be available to you! God speed, and I hope that whatever is ailing you that you overcome it or at least live with it with Dignity, and anything you need to do that should absolutely be provided to you. Good luck and Thank you for your service!

Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made Dec 1 at 2022 2:59 AM

2022-12-01T02:59:52-05:00

I've Been Disabled For Around 20 Years...
No Connection What-So-Ever With Injuries Or Illnesses During My Enlistment....ZERO...
.But Here's What DID Happen... When We Were Given Medical Benefits After Our Honorable Discharges... I Decided To Try Out The VA, Because My Medicare Hadn't Kicked In Yet.... READY?, Here It Goes. I Was Going Through A Divorce And Has Some Minor Depression, So My Civilian Doctor Recommend I See A Professional Nut Cracker To Be Sure To Be Properly Diagnosed.... But I Was MIS-Diagnosed And Prescribed Medications Which CAUSED Me To Go Nuts.....9 YEARS Of Losing My Mind & Suicidal.... The Problem?...The MEDICATION... NOTHING Was Wrong With Me.....SOLUTION?... STOP Taking The Medication.....FINALLY I'm Back To ME..
VA? Fa-Q. ....And Leave Me Alone.... Go KILL Someone Else!

Response by PO2 Eric Lozaga made Dec 1 at 2022 12:49 PM

2022-12-01T12:49:06-05:00

I don't.. but I did before I started the process. I got out in 2006 and could have signed up for disability back then but I didn't. Through the years I kept hearing about vets with actual combat related injuries getting denied. I don't know why they did, but it seemed like maybe it was paperwork issues or the doctors they say or some places are just harder to get accepted. Not really sure. But I eventually did it about 5 or 6 years ago once my injuries were really starting to take a toll on my daily life

Response by CPT Richard Trione made Dec 1 at 2022 1:50 PM

2022-12-01T13:50:41-05:00

When this becomes a guilt problem, is is usually because of self pride in not willing to accept any kind of help. As a blinded veteran, my pride initially got in the way. I would not let my family and friends help me. One day a friend from church told me that when I don't let him help me, I am robbing him from a blessing. So, that hit me like a ton of bricks! Not only does the person receive a blessing in helping me, but I receive a blessing, too!

Response by SP5 Wick Humble made Dec 2 at 2022 3:26 PM

2022-12-02T15:26:55-05:00

No. Thojgh I've never gotten any comp for a broken arm suffered at Ft.Sam Houston Tx, nor my tinnitis, I think that any service connected medical problem is compensable. If you wouldn't have had the injury as a civilian, it is covered I'd think.

Response by SPC Suzie Clary made Dec 4 at 2022 8:40 PM

2022-12-04T20:40:18-05:00

Absolutely not. I had to work through that myself. Ultimately the condition I'm in is service related though not combat related.

Response by TSgt James Sutton made Dec 12 at 2022 3:47 PM

2022-12-12T15:47:28-05:00

For one, the VA disability compensation program...is not just for "combat" veterans. Veterans normally serve during the prime "health" time of their lives, and spend many months, even years away from family in far-off countries...just because they were injured or fell ill because of their service when they were not deployed, or even after their service has ended doesn't mean they don't deserve to be supported for what they have done for their country.

Case, in fact, my grandfather was in the Pacific during WW2, served from 1942 to 1946, had a plate in his head from a sniper's bullet, was patched up, and returned to the front. Other than unit awards he received no commendation for his heroism which was common at the time, no purple heart, and not even an achievement medal (about the lowest you can get these days for actions you take on duty).

When he was 80 we thought he had a heart attack while working on his farm, still providing for his family, he rarely went to the VA but when they found shrapnel next to his heart, which was the cause of his heart attack systems the Army and the VA refused to acknowledge and give him so much as a purple heart let alone any sort of commendation...I mean he went 45 years with this ailment, without complaint, just heartbroken at the way the government treated him all those years.

He was in a foxhole when a grenade went off, again he was shipped off to a field hospital in the Philippines, patched up, and returned to duty....but no medical record exists that anyone can find...so the Army says they wouldn't recognize his heroics because they can't find any records of it....but yet the shrapnel next to his heart and the metal plate came from where exactly?

So when I compare my service to my grandfather's, sure I have felt that maybe my issues are nowhere near what his were, and do I deserve the 50% rating I receive when he received nothing other than annual checkups? Makes you wonder really just now many WW2 vets were ignored and/or died later because of lack of care, reminds me of the horrible way our Vietnam vets were treated.....and this poor treatment continues. He died at the age of 90, just after receiving the last denial from the Army and VA for any recognition for his service...other than his unit awards.

I'm glad currently active duty members and retirees are being treated better, but there is always room for improvement.

I kinda cringe sometimes when people thank me for my service, knowing how my grandfather was treated, and really if you want to thank a veteran...give them a job, do business with them when they come in looking for work, etc. Too many times businesses won't work with someone who claims a veteran status, even to the point of refusing to give them 5 minutes to discuss what they have to offer and that is really the saddest part of it.

Response by Sgt Karl Karl made Dec 15 at 2022 9:17 AM

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A better way to look at the VA Disability process is to see the VA Disability program as the Workers Compensation Program of the US Military, like any jobs you are covered for on the job injuries, illnesses or diseases, including vehicle accidents to and from work or while on leave. Always maintain a complete copy of your medical records but never the original records. Keeping a complete copy of your medical records will ensure that you will get a comprehensive review of your case. Always have the records reviewed by a National recognized Service representative so that you will get the best possible claim entered at the time of separation or when you file for disability. When you are ready to be seen by a doctor have the list of disability with you and be careful when the doctor asks "how are you doing today" never say you are OK, because why are you seeing this doctor (for a disability) if you do say you are ok, the doctor may use that as you have no complains at time of examination and your claim may be reduced or even dismissed. ALWAYS state that you are in some kind of distress maybe not to bad today, but it was bad the other day or why are you seeing the doctor. Just do not lie.
It is always best to file a complete disability claim rather than a piecemeal effect (doing a claim at a time) upon completion of the examination and when you get the official answer from the Adjudication Branch of the VA, always have your case reviewed by the person who assisted you in the filing process. This will ensure that you received the best possible outcome of the rating decision. The person who reviews the end product may assist you in filing an appeal, in that you got insufficient award, or an item was not reviewed or rated.
BY DOING THE COMPLETE CLAIM AT ONE TIME WILL EASE THE PRESSURE ON YOU AND WILL ALLOW THE VA TO PROCESS YOUR CLAIM AT A TIME AND MAY REDUCE THE LOSS OF ANY RECORDS AND THE GOING BACK AND FORTH OF LETTERS AND PAPERWORK TO THE VA.

May you all have a successful claim filing experience
Semper Fi

Response by SFC Curt Decker made Dec 17 at 2022 11:48 AM

2022-12-17T11:48:07-05:00

Nope. Not at all. I'm 100 percent due to training injuries. Retired after 23 years and my body was a wreck.

Response by SFC Joseph Behmke made Dec 27 at 2022 3:16 AM

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NO! Any more than feeling bad about getting a Workman's Comp settlement after getting hurt on any civilian job. If you're injured "On The Job" you should be compensated.

Response by SPC Barbara Gibson made Jan 2 at 2023 1:30 AM

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No. We're All United With Choosing To Serve Our Country. I Always Give Special Recognition To Veterans I Meet That Have Seen Combat. But Even In Peacetime Things Can Happen.

Response by SPC Ronnie Smith made Jan 3 at 2023 4:53 AM

2023-01-03T04:53:13-05:00

ABSOLUTELY!
Jail... fraud against the Government, negligence stealing funds that could actually save lives.
It's like Stolen Valor

They should shrip them down to nothing, resind their MOS orders & locked them up

Response by SGT Juan Robledo made Jan 16 at 2023 1:24 PM

2023-01-16T13:24:04-05:00

If a Service Member was injured while serving in the Military, be it Peace Time or in Combat Zone, then that service member is ENTITLED to the same Benefits as well as Compensation, for their injuries, and rightly so

Response by LCDR Gordon Brown made Jan 29 at 2023 5:55 PM

2023-01-29T17:55:52-05:00

Just curious about the injuries caused from the chemical exposures. Why should ANYONE feel bad about receiving compensation and health care for the injuries caused by chemicals like Agent Orange, Asbestos, TCE etc?

Response by Capt Phil Williams made Jan 30 at 2023 1:09 PM

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No, I was given a Medical Discharge in 1977 because of medical reasons associated with my exposure to Agent Orange while a Combat Engineer in Vietnam in 1966. My disability is like an injury from friendly fire. No Purple Heart just my VA benefits. It caused a close-out to my Marine Corps career.

Response by CWO4 Tim Hecht made Feb 6 at 2023 3:28 AM

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Haven’t we done this topic before?
I am a 100% Permanent and Total Disabled Vet. I spent 4 years in the Navy and just a few days shy of 26 years in the Coast Guard. My military medical record for those 30 years is 2+” thick. I served in a Sub Tender, two aircraft carriers in the Navy and 3 cutters in the Coast Guard although on assignment was cut short because of cardiac issues. During the tour of duty on the Sub Tender I was assigned to Deck force and cleaning, scraping rust, applying primer (red lead or Zinc Chromate - both toxic); there was a lot of asbestos on all the vessels; at one shore station (1977-79) I discovered a 1/2 gallon glass jug of DDT, half empty and the cap was loose. Along the way I developed Obstructive sleep apnea, both knees have been replaced; numerous injuries, in the line of duty not due to misconduct, including at Command sponsored sporting activities.. From C5-C6 to L1 to L5 my spine is wrecked…
A Combat related disability? The closest I ever got to combat was off the coast of Vietnam; assembling Guided Missiles, delivering them to the flight deck was about as close as I wanted to be.
Later, in the Coast Guard I participated in Law Enforcement Boardings, riding the small boat the the target boat; it was dangerous duty; on guy ended up in the drink,; with his LE Gear he started to sink like a rock. Fortunately he ditched his LE Gear and surfaced. He could of drowned or he could have crushed between the Small Boat and target boat.

So when I retired I visited the VA. After they review my medical record and gave me an initial rating of 80%. I didn’t really feel disabled; but had health related issues that would probably eventually Cause me problems. And guess what - they all did; sooner then later. I’m 70 years old now this past October I had my cancerous prostrate removed; and on 1 December I had a triple bypass after dealing with a 30 history of cardiac issues.

So yes I am now 100% disabled and under doctor’s orders (after a “significant” heart attack in 2014) to not engage in work…
So do non-combatants be given VA Disability Ratings? Yes.

Response by Cpl Larry Garzenelli made Feb 8 at 2023 9:41 PM

2023-02-08T21:41:11-05:00

I’ve been in a war zone. No injuries from that. All mine were from training accidents or PT. Something about ‘the more we bleed in peace, the less we die in war’. More service members die or get wounded from training accidents.

Response by PFC John Richards made Feb 9 at 2023 10:01 AM

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Response by CPL Perlina Herrera made Feb 9 at 2023 1:21 PM

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No.

Response by LCpl Rose Shoafstall made Feb 10 at 2023 12:50 PM

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Absolutely not. Anyone who has honorably served our country deserves this. Many years ago, my first husband was on active duty in the Army National Guard. Before that, he had served as a Marine for 7 years. During this Army stint, he had an aneurysm rupture. After all the surgery and testing it became clear he was terminal. He had multiple aneurysms throughout his body, and the cause was never determined, but I think it may have been the water at Camp LeJeune. Long story short, we had to fight the VA to give him disability, because the rupture happened when he was on active-duty training. I actually had to ask our senator, John Warner, for help, and he came through. At first Jim felt like he didn't deserve this disability, but many folks told him to get over that. He has since died, but I'm grateful for that disability. Because of that, my kids were able to go to college as well.

Response by Cpl George Matousek made Feb 10 at 2023 1:17 PM

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Not at all, they served and so they had a problem they still deserve their compensation.

Response by A1C Joy Ross made Feb 10 at 2023 11:41 PM

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In my day, women weren't allowed in combat rolls. We were not even taught to shoot a gun. We didn't do anything combat related in Basic Training. No obstacle courses, or anything like that. I have a disability rating and do not feel guilty about it at all. I was disabled due to my service.

Response by TSgt Ken Vandevoort made Feb 10 at 2023 11:46 PM

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Not at all. I got into the VA because I was unemployed, had no medical insurance and had a gall bladder attack. My brother couldn't get in because they said he made too much money until recently. My brother was in supply in Vietnam and handled Agent Orange drums. One leaked and soaked his leg. Since then, he had cancer at an early age, one child was born with cerebral palsy and other problems and he also developed parkinsons. He is now in the system at 70% disability and they are still working to see if it should be more.

Response by SN Priscilla Thornton made Feb 11 at 2023 6:23 AM

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No not at all

Response by SPC Louis Williams made Feb 11 at 2023 6:32 PM

2023-02-11T18:32:26-05:00

No at all!

Response by SGT Alan Martinez made Feb 11 at 2023 7:04 PM

2023-02-11T19:04:33-05:00

Hell no. That is why we are the greatest Nation on earth. We care for our own.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2023 1:11 PM

2023-02-12T13:11:57-05:00

Absolutely not, if it’s legitimate claim it.

Response by SN Kristi Kalis made Feb 12 at 2023 10:27 PM

2023-02-12T22:27:01-05:00

Why should they? Service-connected disability means your service caused a disability. It's a lengthy process to be awarded disability, and denying is still the norm.

Response by Sgt Stephen Chiles made Feb 16 at 2023 3:17 PM

2023-02-16T15:17:04-05:00

Why should they feel bad? Whatever it is that grants them a Service Related Disability was earned; combat or not. There is nothing in "Service Related Disability" or any percentage rating that defines only cobat related injuries. Case in point, I was in during the cold war and had a surgery that was botched by a surgeon, causing me to lose a kidney. IUt is service related and that is what I was awarded; however with zero percent that I am now appealing to get at least 30% for what should be medical malpractice that in the civilian world would equate to a few million in compensation. I definitely do NOT feel bad.

Response by Sgt Steve Williams made Mar 7 at 2023 8:44 AM

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VA health care and other benefits were part of the deal. No reason to feel bad if you upheld your part of the bargain.

Response by SPC Robert Eberle made Mar 7 at 2023 8:45 PM

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No way now how should they feel bad - that's why it's referred to as "Service Connected" anyone with a VA Member ID card - has the words "SERVICE CONNECTED" under the veterans picture. It's also more the medical support at the VA facility then the compensation one receives.

Response by Col Dan Ketter made Mar 7 at 2023 10:46 PM

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Absolutely NOT. Its a quality of life issue and the compensation is just an attempt to rectify there service. Look at the million receiving SS disability who have never paid in 1 dime. Or the illegals receiving SS who have never paid in 1 penny

Response by PO1 Mary Vermont made Mar 8 at 2023 3:44 PM

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No!

Response by WO1 Michael Anderson made Mar 9 at 2023 11:12 AM

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No. I became I'll with meningitis and cross infected with Llhasa fever.
No I don't feel bad at all about it.
I fought the system for 21 years to get compensated. Like as usual the VA isn't charitable. Despite now developing COPD on top of the asthma, the VA ( of course) won't increase my disability.
Especially these days after Bidenski instructed the VA to minimize additional expenditures for his proxy war in Ukraine

Response by PO3 Robert Nunes made Mar 9 at 2023 11:46 AM

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Disability Compensation is hard enough to get when you have physical injuries. Let alone the Stress of Combat Tours with your life in danger constantly. But just as many claims for disability can come out of Combat Zones as from in them!

Stress is natural from just being in the Military Service and the reality is your life can be in just as much danger out of your control as in a Combat Zone! Yes we deserve Disability Compensation for injuries that can't be seen like scars, missing limbs etc!

Response by SSG Mona Swearingen made Mar 9 at 2023 12:05 PM

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Hell no. Those injuries can be devastating. Anyone who tries to put someone down for receiving VA disability compensation is a fucking asshole.

Response by SrA Elisabeth Shuman made Mar 9 at 2023 4:14 PM

2023-03-09T16:14:27-05:00

No we are big part of support system for those those that are fighting when one part of that system fails causing injury to that person they should not feel bad about getting disability. We are all working together for same cause our freedom. Vietnam War no one ever understood that we were also fighting to protect our country.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2023 9:34 PM

2023-03-10T21:34:50-05:00

No.
The answer is No.
They held up their part of the deal.

Response by SGT Mike Judge made Mar 10 at 2023 11:23 PM

2023-03-10T23:23:26-05:00

No!

Response by PO3 Raymond Driscoll made Mar 11 at 2023 9:17 AM

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No way! A disability is a disability rather on the battlefield or injured in a non-combat role.

Response by PVT Ron Tebo made Mar 11 at 2023 11:43 AM

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My wounds have nothing to do with combat, and I have no regrets about receiving a disability rating. We swore an oath to serve our country when we enlisted, and everyone is entitled to the same benefits if they are warranted. Soldiers, Marines—we are all brothers and sisters. Assist your fellow veteran in obtaining the benefits he or she justly deserves.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2023 4:28 PM

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Only in a group such as this one, populated by people who spent years pushing themselves and others to strive for perfection of deed and character, can a question like this be asked without laughter.

It has a simple answer. No. No veteran should hesitate or think poorly of their ability to receive a VA disability. Veterans of any conflict, branch, MOS or era who meet the requirements for disability compensation are entitled to it. Does a chess player feel badly that their rook can move so many spaces while a pawn is limited? No, because the action is prescribed by the rules of the game.

Disability benefits are certainly a more serious than any game of chess, but so much more the reason why we shouldn't make artificial exclusions beyond what are in the existing rules.

Get the rating and care that you need. Encourage and support others to do the same. Pay attention to the matters of Congress and the Executive Branch that pertain to your care and other rights - and engage in that process as you see fit. Look after your fellow veterans with a compassionate heart - they have earned that.

Response by LTC David Howard made Mar 12 at 2023 12:27 PM

2023-03-12T12:27:37-04:00

As long as you are not commiting fraud there is not a reason in the world to feel guilty. I am retired U.S. Army, but I am also rated 10% disabled by the V.A. for tinnitis and hearing loss. During my time in Vietnam I suffered an ear infection, AND was right next to a 8 inch howitzer unit which was attached to my division. Outgoing noise was louder than incoming explosions. I suffered hearing problems and for that get a small check every month from the V.A. Of course, an equal amount is then deducted from my military pension because "double dipping" of this type is not allowed. But the V.A. amount is tax free so it is about a $30 a month benefit to me, a benefit for which I have not the slightest amount of guilt. This was not a combat related loss, but it certainly was service connected.

Response by TSgt James Herslebs made Mar 12 at 2023 3:22 PM

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I struggled with this question for 32 years before finally filing for VA healthcare. I am now 100 percent service connected due to injuries sustained during the Cold War Era. A good friend who has seen combat in four different ears encouraged me to seek care from the VA. I didn't believe I merited the care because of my non combat related service connected injuries. My friend's view was you served get the care.

Response by CPT Larry Hudson made Mar 12 at 2023 3:42 PM

2023-03-12T15:42:14-04:00

No, honorable service is where you are assigned, besides injuries occur when in service and military post are subject to contaminations

Response by TSgt Jerry Clemens Jr made Mar 12 at 2023 5:22 PM

2023-03-12T17:22:52-04:00

Heck no! I was a photographer. I saw stuff that still gives me nightmares and all the walking, bending, jumping, running and contorting myself to get a "shot". My body started breaking down at age 30 because of all that.

Response by TSgt Jerry Clemens Jr made Mar 12 at 2023 5:26 PM

2023-03-12T17:26:21-04:00

Heck no! I was a photographer. I saw stuff that still gives me nightmares (from aircraft crashes, accidents, fires and abuse in families of active members) and all the walking, bending, jumping, running and contorting myself to get a "shot". My body started breaking down at age 30 because of all that.

Response by SP5 Timothy Cooper made Mar 12 at 2023 8:28 PM

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If you put the time in combat or not service is service the VA is there for combat an non-combat so do not feel bad we get older an things show in later year's.

Response by SGT John Prolo made Mar 13 at 2023 12:33 PM

2023-03-13T12:33:05-04:00

What a stupid question! Not when you spend time training. People get injured training for combat. I myself was hurt while on an Airborne Training exercise. Pilot missed the drop zone and I landed in the trees. It wasn’t a combat mission, but I was training for it. And I still think it’s a stupid question!

Response by GySgt Ray Harris made Mar 13 at 2023 12:47 PM

2023-03-13T12:47:07-04:00

I used to feel bad about "taking" benefits, especially when I went to the VA hospital and I would see veterans with only one leg. It took me a while to understand that my disabilities were not only real, but they were serious. After dedicating thirteen years of my youth to the Marine Corps, I have only recently learned that I am not taking anything from anyone. It is compensation for problems brought on by military service.

Response by SFC R. Lee Linebarger made Mar 17 at 2023 10:03 AM

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No, if the were incurred in the line of duty or through no fault or negligence of the veteran.

Response by Cpl Tony Simpson made Mar 19 at 2023 1:29 PM

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VA Disability is no different than workers compensation that is awarded for injuries suffered in a work place. If someone is injured while they are in the service of the government the VA performs the same functions that the state division of workers compensation would do for a civilian worker

Response by AA Loreen Silvarahawk made Mar 19 at 2023 4:39 PM

2023-03-19T16:39:03-04:00

Definitely not and should not be removed from it no matter what.

Response by SSG Raul Alaniz made Mar 19 at 2023 7:40 PM

2023-03-19T19:40:36-04:00

Nope.

Response by SPC Vonnie Jones made Mar 19 at 2023 11:50 PM

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I am ashamed it took me so long to put in a claim. I was told several times to put in a claim. I got out in 1989 yea Vietnam Era....no not Vietnam. I did get hurt, but felt I didn't get hurt during combat, but my injuries are real and they hurt. Finally I filled in 2017, claim didn't go any place did get processed until I submitted another claim in Sept 2021. funny I received a letter in 2021saying we closed your claim from 2017 because lack of evidence. Anyway the reason I finally filled is, because I got so made that my conditions were getting worse. One night I went to Urgent care, for leg pain. When the doc look at my mri of my back she said the leg pain stems from your back. I said, that's what I get from lying on the cold ground, she said oh Army I said yes then she said no came from running in boots and a full ruck wow. I filled my claim. I was a medic tried fo EFMB always missed getting it by 5 to 10 min on the 12 mile full ruck road March. I have been denied x2 for my back because not enough evidence supports it. I am 60% for two other issues. What's odd my face was falling apart because of skin issues and I was treated. I only saw doc for it 3 times but got prescription filled monthly for 3 years. First I was denied with favorable findings, they wanted proof I was treated after getting out. So I submitted proof, then they denied it because I was treated enough in the military (what the ham sandwich) do they want smh. I was Medic and saw and took care of several peace time injuries. Bad things happen during training, people are crushed by tanks, shot in..., men and women are sometimes sexually assaulted. I have learned not to feel ashamed to go after what was promised. Right now I am asked why did you wait so long? things are harder to prove when you wait so long. My answer is Heck no I am NOT ASHAMED

Response by PO2 Stephen Brownell made Apr 12 at 2023 10:18 PM

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I spent 16 yrs in the navy .I worked in the repaired department so I the on equipment that I had to crawled on metal beams & equipment where I had to stay there because I was the only one the ship qualified to work on that piece of equipment, I ended up screwing up my knees ,hips ,back

Response by SPC Joseph Alfred made Apr 13 at 2023 11:24 AM

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No they shouldn't

Response by MSgt Dee Ann P. made Apr 13 at 2023 11:36 AM

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No. Things happened while I was in the military. The end. We served and deserve the benefits we earned.

Response by PO2 Paul Dempsey made Apr 13 at 2023 4:57 PM

2023-04-13T16:57:10-04:00

I was hurt fighting a shipboard fire. I used to feel guilty about my disability as that was what I was paid to do. Protect my shipmates and my ship. I was not allowed to reenlist and was discharged with a disabilities. I don't feel bad anymore. I've come to and appreciate the help. I learned that less than 1% of Americans have served. I and all other veterans stood tall while others stayed sitting. That said whatever or how the country decides to compensate us for any injury received while doing so is ok with me.

Response by SGT Talma Brown made Apr 14 at 2023 12:32 AM

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We are trained to be 'battle ready' so injuries can happen throughout military service, and there are different types and severity of combat injuries too.

Response by SPC James Fitzpatrick made Apr 14 at 2023 8:32 AM

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For years I never applied, and the idea that I shouldn't because I really didn't "deserve" it played a part. But as the years rolled on, the pain got worse, and I finally put in for disability, thinking I wouldn't get it. But I did get 30%, and after I retired, the small amount that I get sure does help with the monthly bills.

Response by CPL Jerry Galloway made Apr 14 at 2023 8:34 AM

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NO they should not feel bad. This question assumes that only a few of us were trained for combat operations. All of us went through basic infantry training. I was Airborne and did not see combat. I have the knee, shoulder back and neck issues like the many "combat veterans". I have no bad feelings about my disability status. At the end of the day WE ALL VOLENTEERED TO GO TO COMBAT IF NEEDED AND TRAINED TO DO SO. Combat Deployment is luck of the draw. We are ordered into combat zones and even then you may not see enemy fire.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2023 11:25 PM

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phc.amedd.army.mil says "Almost 50% of military experience 1 or more injury each year.
They result in over 2,000,000 medical encounters annually across military Services." Updated 13APR23.
I would gamble that the vast majority of those injuries are not combat related. If a Soldier is pinned between two LMTVs at the motor pool due to poor training, or rolls an ankle on the run route because of an unseen/unimproved pot hole they deserve to have their medical needs met. If those I juries result in continued issues down the road, they should be treated and compensated. There's plenty of blame/punishment to go around, so that root problems can be addressed, but you can't sue the LMTV driver and you can't sue the installation or their public works. They were executing their duties when injured.

Response by SPC Richard Rauenhorst made Apr 15 at 2023 10:11 AM

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Many Veterans suffer injuries during basic training. The lack of hearing protection. The boots worn were about as bad as could be. I am certain many can attest to these and many other things.

Response by LCpl Ashur Nissan made Apr 16 at 2023 4:02 PM

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Sgt Reynolds, When we enter service, we sign over a blank check up to and including the full value of our life. I was in the predicament you describe for 20 years. Then one retired VA guy I met at a baseball game convinced me I'd earned the benefit, no matter where the earning had occurred. That was 12 years ago. I'm 90% service-connected and I feel immense gratitude for the blessing of the VA keeping the governments promise to care for their own. Many of our brothers and sisters are injured or killed while training. They were doing the things our country had asked of them. The VA comp is just a symbol of gratitude. I'm certainly grateful for your service. Hopefully you get some pain freee days now and again. I do cherish mine. Semper Fi.

Response by SSG William Hommel made Apr 16 at 2023 6:38 PM

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Totally agree with Col Jack -- the applicable laws and rules were specifically made to help anyone who was trying to serve but became disabled, regardless if non-combat related. Give the combat vets more? Fine by me!

Response by CPT Eireanne Russ made Apr 17 at 2023 4:22 AM

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That would be a “hell no” from me. Regardless of when you entered service, you were writing a blank check for your life and physical well-being. In return, Uncle agreed to do his best to keep us healthy until he needed us, and to care for us afterwards if necessary. That a disabling injury happened outside a theater of war is immaterial. Most of us were disabled training to do what soldiers do in dangerous situations…situations OSHA would not allow in non-military businesses. Uncle broke you while you were standing your place on the wall prepared to give all, so Uncle has an obligation to make what restitution is available, and you do not have to feel guilty receiving it. And you are likely not getting everything you could since none of us knows to get everything documented before we take off the uniform for the last time.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2023 6:11 AM

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The answer to the question should Veterans feel bad about being awarded and receiving VA disability compensation for non-combat related injuries?" is NO
My question is should the veteran feel BOHICA ed when he finally is awarded comp only to have it deducted by DFAS from retirement pay!@?

Response by 1SG Frank Peck made Apr 17 at 2023 11:33 AM

2023-04-17T11:33:03-04:00

NO, NOT AT ALL!!! It took me 17yrs., to get at 100%. I tore my rotator cuff in Iraq (2004-2005), throwing my rucksack up in the truck, (not combat related) to go on a convoy escort mission. I nursed it for my whole deployment, until I demobed. We were always on the road, I got my back knees, and shoulders, checked out. Had a screw put in my shoulder, got 20% just because they did surgery, filed for increase got 30%. Before I went into the Guard, I was stationed at Camp Lejeune (1977-1981). Went Guard in 85. I did two more deployments after Iraq, (Kuwait, Afghanistan), Every time I came home, I filed for increases. After 2nd tour I got bumped to 50%. This was in 08. when I came back from Afghanistan I filed for another increase, got denied, appealed, denied, appealed again, (2012). after three years got bumped to 60%. Filed for another increase, denied, appealed again, denied again. The older I got the more I was breaking, (body wise), filed for another increase, got 70%. This was 2017. I finally retired on the civilian side, retired Guard in 2014, retired civilian 2020. I filed for another increase, for my leg that was badly varicosed vain, (which'd was documented from Iraq) got 100%!! This was in 2022. Long story short, they want you to give up, you have to be persistent. What about people who break their leg in boot camp, no longer serviceable???? They weren't in combat, they get compensated. Now I am getting my prostate removed, don't know if its from burn pits or Camp Lejune?????

Response by LCpl Walter Larson made Apr 17 at 2023 3:01 PM

2023-04-17T15:01:26-04:00

I was a US Marine wounded in combat in Vietnam. I was willing to sacrifice my life for my country which is a debitor nation. For years, to continue supporting of my country, I refused to accept care or compensation vrom the VA. As almost everyone is now on the take getting anything they can from our government, if they deserve it or not, I changerd my mind. I now have 100% disability from the VA. May as well get my share of the government givaway. This country is on the road to hell.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2023 8:14 PM

2023-04-30T20:14:56-04:00

No. The military has broken me up pretty good just by attempting to stay physically fit.
And 20 years of shift work is another area I've been jacked up. Can't sleep, always, always tired.

Response by Maj Kim Patterson made May 1 at 2023 8:25 AM

2023-05-01T08:25:49-04:00

SGT Private RallyPoint Member it doesn’t matter if the injuries happened in Combat, the latest one I keep seeing everywhere is service around Camp Lejune

Response by SGT Wayne Grindstaff made May 12 at 2023 3:08 PM

2023-05-12T15:08:54-04:00

Never feel bad about getting disability compensation if your a veteran, as long as it's a legit claim.

Response by Sgt James Biear made May 14 at 2023 8:34 AM

2023-05-14T08:34:05-04:00

VA Disability Compensation should be understood as a “system of insurance” that provides benefits to the military/veterans who are injured or ill on the job or as a result of the job….

Response by Sgt Kevin Brobst made May 14 at 2023 9:01 AM

2023-05-14T09:01:34-04:00

Not at all. I was injured in Basic Training but completed my 4 years. During those 4 years I was required to do everything any Marine is required to do. I could have been placed in combat. I was in slight pain frequently, and have nearly constant pain now, 52+ years later. Disabilities can happen in or out of combat.

Civilian Workers Comp pays if you're clocked in - whether you got injured doing your job or when the chair broke under you in the cafeteria during lunch break.

During military service, you're clocked in 24 x7.

Response by CPO John Hopkins made May 21 at 2023 11:34 PM

2023-05-21T23:34:24-04:00

The most dangerous four acres on this planet is the flight deck of an aircraft carrier; where our OWN aircraft try very hard to kill us. Even during peacetime deployments, we lose shipmates in accidents up there. My own brother in law was lost at sea, when an A-7 turned the wrong way and the jet blast blew him over the fantail into the Pacific Ocean, his body churned under the prop wash and wake of the ship. His body was never recovered. Accidents and injuries happen, sometimes even the vaccines we have to take have side effects. Had a friend who had the COVID vaccines develop Myocarditis and his heart stopped on 3 occasions before getting a procedure to deaden the nerve endings that were causing his heart to shut down. He's getting medically discharged because of it.

Don't ever feel guilty for accepting the disability; we were promised free Medical Care for Life if we did at least 20 years of active duty, and now it's "Did you get that in writing?" I just got kicked out of Tri-Care Prime and placed onto Medicare and Tricare For Life. I used to pay $520@year for myself and my wife for Prime, and now since we hit 65, we pay Medicare Part B $330@month AND we had to find a new primary care provider, as Portsmouth Naval Hospital and it's clinics won't see TFL patients. An increasing number of Military Health Facilities will no longer see retiree's or dependents (even the dependents of active duty). Bethesda/Walter Reed won't see retiree's but will see and treat every idiot politician.

Response by 1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) made May 23 at 2023 7:14 PM

2023-05-23T19:14:59-04:00

22 years of active duty. Three Tours in Vietnam (10th Aviation, 196th Light Infantry Brigade, and 5th Special Forces Group, MACVSOG-CCS)). Conducted operations in Cambodia during CCS tour, and after Vietnam had "Special" assignments in Laos and Pakistan. Overseas tours in Panama, Okinawa, and Germany. In conjunction with normal Parachuting and all the rigors of being on Special Forces "A" Teams, I was also a Rough Terrain Parachutist with lots of funky landings! (Most of them were "Painful"). I retired at Fort Knox and nobody provided "Retirement Guidance" in 1982. However, someone decided I was a 10 percenter! As a result, I get Disability Compensation every month in the amount of $165.92. However, the Army reduces my Retirement Pay each month my $165.92. It was a lot lower when I retired and reached this level after increases over the last 40 years. I would take a wild ass guess and say that the "extra" income from my Disability Compensation has averaged somewhere around $15.00 a month. And the answer to your question... I do not feel Bad, I feel a little insulted!

Response by SFC Birk Ellis made May 26 at 2023 10:28 AM

2023-05-26T10:28:25-04:00

Not in the least bit bad. As long as you served and sustained a service related injury, you should be taken care off.

Response by PO1 Don Uhrig made Jun 3 at 2023 11:42 AM

2023-06-03T11:42:49-04:00

No. And shame on you for trying to emotionalize or cause psychological trauma to persons with injuries into categories that have nothing to do with combat or not.

Response by SN Don Soileau made Jun 12 at 2023 1:52 AM

2023-06-12T01:52:33-04:00

I'm 100% service connected, permanent and total.
Not one bit of combat did I see. No shame here.

Response by SA Clifford Junior made Jul 2 at 2023 9:29 PM

2023-07-02T21:29:38-04:00

No not at all .The fact is that you served your country .You could have fought a war and died. Guilt shouldn't even be part of the equation .

Response by AN Randy Vandall made Jul 3 at 2023 9:42 PM

2023-07-03T21:42:10-04:00

Yes

Response by COL Victor Hagan made Jul 5 at 2023 12:49 PM

2023-07-05T12:49:29-04:00

No! If you were honest with your physicans regarding the injury(s) or condition(s) then you earned the care and compensation.

Response by SN Randy Toth made Jul 6 at 2023 10:34 AM

2023-07-06T10:34:42-04:00

No way, I was never in combat thank God, but my lungs are half gone due to sucking asbestos into them from stations and ships I had been on. I am now on oxygen, and numerous medications due to this. I was told don't worry, it won't effect you. Now, they have finally admitted yes it does. There may be some veterans applying for disabilities that are a joke but for those not in combat you still suffer life threatening situations from being in the military.

Response by C Marrone made Jul 6 at 2023 12:28 PM

2023-07-06T12:28:48-04:00

No absolutely not! Too many Veterans have ignored Service Related injuries only to feel the effects later in life. Anyone in the Military of senior rank or medical personnel who ignores a Service Members injury or symptoms of not being well should be held accountable and responsible for their lack of care. I’ve seen and known of Service Members who were pushed through the demobilization process who were not given the adequate support, advice, and resources needed prior to their being released to return home only to go through hardship after the fact because of insufficient, inadequate, or improper treatment and or documentation.

Response by MSgt Dwyane Watson made Jul 6 at 2023 9:12 PM

2023-07-06T21:12:24-04:00

I have a slew of non-combat related injuries, does that make me less of a warrior? My body was whole when I entered the Air Force, not so much now. I spent 24 years as a structural maintenance craftsman working on 10 different airframes in numerous locations. I can't straighten my right arm, I've had three knee surgeries and I have to see a chiropractor on my own dime. I have left my blood on multiple aircraft in many countries and I would rather have my health back but since thats not going to happen I think I deserve to be compensated for my continuous pain that I go thru on a daily basis.

Response by SPC Joel Carter Sr made Jul 7 at 2023 12:40 PM

2023-07-07T12:40:34-04:00

NO,THEY SHOULD NOT FEEL BAD AT ALL. INFACT, WE SHOULD GET MORE

Response by Sgt Robert Elliott made Jul 7 at 2023 2:46 PM

2023-07-07T14:46:49-04:00

Just curious.......would you consider Agent Orange as combat? How about the burn pits that some of our comrades have suffered illnesses from? Did you know that, in some cases, not only can a veteran suffer disability, but it can carry on through to your children! Can you imagine any veteran being told, "Agent Orange is your problem? Sorry, not combat connected, so nothing for you"! You really have to look at what a veteran is suffering from and WHY! Is it service related? That is the standard!

Response by COL Dan Ruder made Jul 7 at 2023 11:14 PM

2023-07-07T23:14:19-04:00

Disability compensation is not a form of charity or an underserved handout; it is a benefit that veterans have earned through their service. The fact that the injuries are non-combat related does not diminish the value of the service; military service involves inherent risks, even outside of direct combat situations. Moreover, being validated by the VA and meeting the eligibility requirements is a high bar; those of us who have gone through the VA process know this. Ultimately, the decision of how veterans feel about their disability compensation is a personal one. If the compensation helps you lead a normal life after your service, then good to go; the compensation is serving its useful purpose!

Response by Sgt Kevin Watrous made Jul 8 at 2023 1:32 PM

2023-07-08T13:32:38-04:00

I'm a Nam Vet, Nothing Service connected with Me, but the VA has done some things for me over the years. Ya, it's cost me some money, by no means was it Free. I've seen abuses along the way, some guys that deal with PDSD out of the VA Hospital. No, their playing the game for themselves ! I've had friends over the years that said I've got that stuff, but my life lead me to wear it well. There are those who will play the System, Justly thinking, the System is Screwing US over also.

Lots of words, thin air. What happens is whats real. Ragging on about it doesn't help. You must realize, They have already "Used" us. The VA System is what it is, look at what they spend $$$ it's limited.

Response by PO1 George Noble made Jul 8 at 2023 5:32 PM

2023-07-08T17:32:06-04:00

Of course not.

Response by LTC Ernest Edge made Jul 8 at 2023 10:22 PM

2023-07-08T22:22:18-04:00

While most of my compensation is combat related, not all is. And, it has to be service related, not comedic related.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2023 6:21 AM

2023-07-09T06:21:32-04:00

Absolutely not! All of the health issues for which I receive VA compensation were incurred on AD, and even though not in a "combat MOS", I came to within an inch of losing my life when our vehicle was blown up. As far as I know, the enemy doesn't differentiate between MOS's when attacking US-uniformed troops...

Response by SSgt William Blanshan made Jul 9 at 2023 7:11 AM

2023-07-09T07:11:17-04:00

If it's "work relate" What's there to feel guilty about? I mean, in the civilian job I now have, if I don't get shot, but end up with carpal tunnel (I HATE paperwork and there's always so much of it), my employer has to pay the expenses of surgery and recovery time. Same exact thing.

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Jul 9 at 2023 4:47 PM

2023-07-09T16:47:19-04:00

No. My Corps (V) was not selected for combat even though I trained for it every day. I did serve through Crohn's Disease undiagnosed by the Army. But I served honorably, made my promotions, got to certificates of appreciation and one AAM for participation during live Missile training in Crete.

Response by 1LT Brandon Brackett made Jul 9 at 2023 6:27 PM

2023-07-09T18:27:41-04:00

wait... You have feelings? I missed that CIF station

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2023 1:48 AM

2023-07-10T01:48:42-04:00

Response by SFC Lynn Santosuosso made Jul 10 at 2023 12:27 PM

2023-07-10T12:27:10-04:00

Absolutely not!
Service-connected disabilities are just that, an injury/illness or exacerbation of a preexisting problem that is made worse by your military service is worthy of service connected disability.
Service members of our military who never served in a “Combat zone” have been in other countries on other bases exposed to cancer causing toxins. Many have worked and lived in older buildings and naval vessels and exposed to asbestos. These can’t be helped. If you have an accident and fall off a tank in training or combat and break your leg, it is a broken leg either way.
No shame, guilt, or reluctance should be held by an injured service member outside of combat and no animosity should be held against a non-combat veteran because of their disability status.

Not all disabilities are visible and until you walk in another person’s shoes you are in no place to pass judgment. We will be judged on our judgment day and not before then!!

I am a combat veteran 100% disabled P&T, everyday I wish I wasn’t, I would rather have my brain and body working the way it was before Desert Shield/Storm/Sabre. But I would still do it again even knowing what I know now!

Response by COL Thomas McGrath made Jul 10 at 2023 2:57 PM

2023-07-10T14:57:10-04:00

No absolutely not. Please do not feel guilty. Any injuries incurred while on duty are allowed under the law and frankly the compensation is well deserved. Whether you jumped out of airplanes, rappelled, carried heavy rucksack or wore the IBA in combat, our training puts you in a different category than civilians. Frankly it’s not a lot of money and is a way to help you for after you retire or leave the service. Also Vietnam Vets were treated so badly when they returned from the war, they made sure future Vets were taken care of properly. Thank a Vietnam Vet next time you see them.

Response by LTC Christopher Hills made Jul 10 at 2023 5:28 PM

2023-07-10T17:28:37-04:00

According to Pew Research, less that 10% of the US population are veterans and of them, 22% served only during peacetime era. Whether you go to war or not is determined by politicians, not us and as long as you served honorably, all veterans are equal in their willingness to serve the country. VA disability compensation is just that, to compensate a veteran for the loss of health received during service to our country. Whether I was injured in training (and I have had that happen) OR wounded in combat (and yes, I have had that happen too) is immaterial. You lost some health and the country owes you compensation for that. Just asking the question shows an ignorance as to the topic and a potential over (or under) valuing of your service compared to others.

Response by SPC Keith Lindsey made Jul 10 at 2023 8:52 PM

2023-07-10T20:52:00-04:00

I was awarded 70% last year for depression and anxiety stemming from an incident in 1985 where my roommate killed my other roommate. Stabbed him with a dull knife. I was 19 years old at the time. I ended up being a character witness at the General Courts Martial about 90 days later. He was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, reduced to the rank of E-1 (he was only E-2), forfeiture of all pay and allowances and got a bad conduct discharge that changed to a general discharge under honorable conditions a year later. He was sentenced to 2 years at Fort Hood with parole at eight months and credit for time served (90 days). He was sent home five months later.

I've had recurring Army dreams ever since. Some are the exact same dream that I've had so many times, that when I dream about being in the Army now, I'm on my 3rd or 4th hitch. (I only served one hitch with the Army)

My sweet wife asked me to file with the VA and it was only upon her asking that I did so, and then only after I had spent about four years talking with the VA psychologist once a month about that. I was shocked that I was awarded anything. I was never deployed, just stationed.

I meet weekly with a veterans for God group at a local cafe on Tuesday nights. A couple of those guys have had prostate cancer from Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam, but have never filed for anything.

I have to say, a lot of the time I feel like I'm not worthy of my 70% disability rating from the VA when I see these guys and I also wonder if I'm taking something that I don't deserve from one of my VA brothers or sisters. My sweet wife and another Vietnam Veteran friend of mine who's over 90% tells me that I served and bad things happened to me while in and I'm being compensated for that now.

Response by SSgt W. Aaron Gregory made Jul 13 at 2023 11:42 AM

2023-07-13T11:42:40-04:00

You went in whole; you left not whole. That's the purpose of disability compensation. Period. Feel bad that you cannot get that part you lost back again. Then feel better that you're getting something for it - even if not even close to enough.

Response by SFC Tracy Donahoo made Jul 13 at 2023 12:03 PM

2023-07-13T12:03:30-04:00

Absolutely not. Why would this even be a question?

VA disability is workers comp for the military.

Veterans deserve anything that the law says they qualify for.

Response by Cpl George Matousek made Jul 14 at 2023 1:28 PM

2023-07-14T13:28:45-04:00

No, they served and deserves it. Semoer Fu

Response by GySgt Ray Harris made Jul 27 at 2023 1:13 PM

2023-07-27T13:13:37-04:00

I am 100% P&T. I USED to feel badly when I would go to the VA for treatment and I would see a kid with one leg or something similar. I slowly came to realize that the thirteen years of loyal and faithful service I gave the Marines had value, and hence, my injuries and diseases had value. Besides, you are taking nothing from the seriously wounded.

Response by SR DiLynn Stephens made Jul 27 at 2023 5:23 PM

2023-07-27T17:23:15-04:00

So... I should feel guilty about my 80% service connection because it's not from combat? So, all of us Wonderbra who suffered MST and have service connection for the PTSD should feel guilty? Fuck no

Response by SGT(P) Jennifer Brande made Aug 8 at 2023 3:28 PM

2023-08-08T15:28:26-04:00

This is something I struggle with on a daily basis because I was in for 12 years 1 month and 25 days when I was retired and of course because of a military surgeon error I developed a condition that required a device to be implanted inside of me, therefore, I had to be either discharged or retired.

Thankfully, I was retired, however I could’ve been sitting at 23 years of service today and it still bugs the hell out of me.

But being is that I lost my job for said medical conditions if I did not have my disability, my husband and I would probably be dead because we wouldn’t be able to afford to live anywhere and barely live hand to mouth if we didn’t have our disability.

But then again, I also get the funny looks that wow you’re a female who served in the military got injured while deployed and got retired. That shit gets old REAL QUICK. As always everyone thanks my husband for his service and give me dirty looks when I park with my Disabled Veteran license plate at a store.

It’s a balancing act, but it’s something that a lot of us who get disability following medical retirement struggle with.

Response by PO1 Frank Downs made Aug 8 at 2023 9:28 PM

2023-08-08T21:28:25-04:00

Agent Orange was a chemical used in Vietnam and later veterans started getting cancer and after 10 years of fighting the DOD they finally got the benefits for the damage it done.
VA benefits isn’t just for people in Combat it’s called SERVICE CONNECTED benefits, that covers all the people who transported and handled Agent Orange, or the non combatants who came in contact with Asbestos, Heavy metals and even working in electrical space. How about all the physical damage done to our bodies or even the hidden damage like radiation.
If I had it my way Every service member would get lifetime healthcare and cash payments for damages done that includes damages that show up 20-30 years later. No member in Government can say we don’t have the money when they are spending Billions on Illegal immigrants healthcare and housing.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Aug 9 at 2023 4:35 PM

2023-08-09T16:35:59-04:00

No.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2023 7:36 AM

2023-08-10T07:36:06-04:00

Absolutely not. As "invisible" young troops, we were exposed to chemicals and fuels that we had no way of knowing how they'd impact our lives years down the road. Agent Orange, burn pits, jet fuel, hydraulic fluids, deicing fluids, asbestos, God knows what they sprayed in the air to keep the bugs down...years later, neurological issues, heart disease COPD, cancers...yeah, you need not get combat injured to have a service-connected problem.

Response by SPC Priscilla Whitt made Aug 10 at 2023 8:25 AM

2023-08-10T08:25:43-04:00

Do civilians feel bad when they get government disability? I don't feel bad. I served my country and would have gone anywhere they told me. So, absolutely not!

Response by LCpl Kevin Bryson made Aug 10 at 2023 5:31 PM

2023-08-10T17:31:26-04:00

NEVER feel guilty about receiving benefits for which you are entitled. MANY of our US representatives SHOULD feel guilty about their ongoing benefit package. Many of them DO NOT deserve that.

Response by SPC Earnest Warren Pughsley made Aug 10 at 2023 5:38 PM

2023-08-10T17:38:54-04:00

Absolutely not! The preparation in some cases was what caused those injuries, so because they were WILLING to put their life on the line, it shouldn't be something to feel bad about. Of course anyone injured in combat should be taken care of! That goes without saying! But those injured in the many ways a serviceman or servicewoman could be during their time dedicated to the country should also be compensated.

Response by Cpl John Mason made Aug 12 at 2023 8:12 AM

2023-08-12T08:12:23-04:00

No they served just like I did

Response by PO3 Ted G made Aug 12 at 2023 2:39 PM

2023-08-12T14:39:16-04:00

I in no way shape or form and embarrassed about my VA disability. I was perfectly healthy when I entered the military and I developed the disease that I never even heard of while at a duty station and it will disable me for the rest of my life. Is someone who was perfectly healthy when they entered the military and disabled for life now that I'm out no way I deserve every penny of that VA disability, I would not be disabled today if it were for not for my time in the service. I had planned on making the military a career and let me tell you if I had known then what I know now I would have put in for mental health as well because I lost my career job. Being sent home with a destroyed body and being told "you are going to get $112 a month and medical care" is no way to treat someone that was willing to die for people that they never met after disabling them.

Response by SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt made Aug 12 at 2023 3:41 PM

2023-08-12T15:41:41-04:00

Not all injuries are combat related. In the Nam very few of us went on sick call. However those seemingly minor injuries turned at times into big issues after some years. If you are referring to injuries that were not military in origin, then I say it's a kind of deception.

Response by SGT Doug Blanchard made Aug 12 at 2023 5:07 PM

2023-08-12T17:07:49-04:00

Not in my book. I injured both of my knees on a bad parachute jump. I came down thru a pine tree where I got blown off course along with a number of others. My hearing is bad also from being field artillery. All this happened in "peace time" during the Cold War era. We as Cold War veterans, we trained just as hard every day as if the balloon would go up at any moment.
But do not ever try to tell me that I do not deserve my disability rating because I am not a combat veteran, or that my oath of office expired when I was discharged from the Army way back when. As that oath has no expiration date, never has and never will.

Response by SFC Dr. Jesus Garcia-Arce, Psy.D made Aug 14 at 2023 12:21 AM

2023-08-14T00:21:33-04:00

No way, the compensation is for service related not for combat related.

Response by SP5 Philip McClure made Aug 14 at 2023 12:55 AM

2023-08-14T00:55:25-04:00

Why exactly? Do you think losing a leg in a training accident is somehow less of an injury than losing a leg in combat? I'm not understanding your point of view here.

Response by Sgt Sheri Lynn made Aug 14 at 2023 3:55 AM

2023-08-14T03:55:00-04:00

I have to say, that it took me YEARS to file for disability compensation because I did not serve during wartime. I felt undeserving compared to those who had. But, eventually, with much encouragement from my VA therapist I decided to file. I decided I needed to tell my story, and acknowledge the cost to my person for my service.

Response by SGT Samuel Shelton made Aug 14 at 2023 9:50 AM

2023-08-14T09:50:02-04:00

It is more shameful to mock someone who is willing to accept help.

Response by SSgt Mary Burns made Sep 7 at 2023 3:19 AM

2023-09-07T03:19:36-04:00

No.

Response by MSgt Allen Chandler made Sep 7 at 2023 3:47 PM

2023-09-07T15:47:56-04:00

Are you asking this from a moral or a legal or ethical standard?
When you and I signed up, we took an oath, and we signed a contract. There was not much negotiating. We agreed to do what they asked, and do the best we could in every job assigned to us. They also agreed to some things. Simple ones like we would get a paycheck every twice a month. More complicated things like our healthcare. I carry an 80% disability from the VA. If you removed all my combat related disabilities from that I would have a 30% disability. I was on duty 24 hours a day seven days a week for over 21 years. Whether I was drunk or sober. On leave or not they have the right call me anytime they wanted and I was expected to come.
One of the jobs I had after I got out of the military required me to be on call for certain nights and certain weekends during the months. My boss offered me a deal that I could take or refuse. If I would make sure that I was by the phone and ready to come, he would pay me so much an hour for of those hours I was on standby, plus if I got a call then I get paid more for the time I went and did some work. This was a civilian job so I could take it or leave it. Both my boss and I thought it was a fair deal and were happy with it.
Back to the military. I lived up to my contract. To the best of my ability. I did every job they asked me. And yes, I expect them to live up to their contract. Part of that contract says I get medical care for things that were not directly related to my actual military duties. Weather it was spilling hot spaghetti on my foot, or in a car accident while I was off duty, it was all military related because 24/7 I was military. No, I do not feel guilty or self-conscious about accepting the disability payment I received.
Just like I do not feel guilty for taking retirement check that I earned, whether it be from the military from a civilian employer are the Social Security system. I lived up to my side and now they are living up to their side.
Personally, I find it offensive that anybody even asked this question.

Response by MSgt Allen Chandler made Sep 7 at 2023 3:48 PM

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Response by SrA Michael Drayer made Sep 8 at 2023 1:27 AM

2023-09-08T01:27:53-04:00

Absolutely not! For one, before the ACA pre-existing injuries that occurred during military service were not required to be covered by health insurance. Because of that veterans only had the VA for any recourse for treatment, and the only real way to get treated is to get a disability rating. My knee injury happened in a squadron sponsored basketball tournament. Basically, me being active to meet the military fitness requirements. I have since had 5 knee surgeries on it and have no cartilage in my left knee, but WAY too young to get a knee replacement. I caused me to make career changes, limited my physical ability to participate in sports like I used to, and in certain weather conditions can be extremely painful. I can't help it happened while in service of our country. Do I think that a combat related injury of the same nature should be rated higher? Yes I do, because besides the physical injury there is mental trauma that deserves being recognized and treated, but I don't think it should lower my rating for a non-combat related injury, just increase someone's who is. So I'm 20% (was 30% but the VA lawyers decided my 14 cm scar on my knee didn't deserve the 10% it had previously been given). I think if I am 20% then some one with a combat related injury of a similar nature should be 50%. I think they deserve it, but it doesn't make me ashamed for having a disability rating for my situation.

Response by CWO4 Tim Hecht made Sep 8 at 2023 5:06 AM

2023-09-08T05:06:05-04:00

SGT Reynolds - short answer? I don’t feel bad about “it” at all.
I spent 4 years in the Navy and another 26 years in the Coast Guard - all military service was on active duty. While some may dispute it; I did my job wether it was onboard the USS MIDWAY as a Mess Cook or as an Aviation Ordnanceman Striker. I served in MIDWAY fro 4/72 through 5/74 with the better part of my service underway in and around Vietnam. I experienced “minor” back injuries as well as knee injuries
While in the Coast Guard I served both on shore duty and aboard cutters. I was a Supply Type; but at my first Coast Guard Unit - Coast Guard Air Station Cape May, NJ. Ninety percent Logistics, Procurement, and management of the aircraft spare parts; the other 10% I was a participating member of the duty section. Those duties included assisting in the launch and recovery of our (and other government agencies) helicopters. I learned who to be a “wing walker” to guide the helo in and out of the hanger,etc. - THAT WAS AT ONE UNIT. Sorry about the caps just trying to make my point.
During my 30 years in uniform I sustained injuries from sprains (wrists, ankles, knee, back, feet, ribs, cardiac issues, minor cuts and lacerations to larger cuts. My military medical record is 3” thick.

In complaining; I experienced work related injuries and sports related injuries while participating in command sponsored sporting activities that are considered to be “in the line of duty; no negligence involved.
So at my TAPS Class a VA Rep siad to all of us to (a) make at least 2 copies of your medical records and to apply to the VA through one of the Service Organization Reps. I went to the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) to file my claim in the late summer of 2001.. imagine when I got my Award letter from the VA I had an 80% Disability Rating. Two things,; First I was surprised at the rating; and Second at the time I didn’t feel like I was disabled; but that I had health issues that would cause me problems later in like. And for the next 13 years, culminating in April 2014 with a debilitating heart attack - which was directly related to earlier health issues while on active duty. Following the heart attack I ended up being rated at 100% permanent and total due to my disabilities.
So so I feel bad about receiving VA Disability? Not at all!

Response by PO2 Rodney Phy made Sep 8 at 2023 9:57 PM

2023-09-08T21:57:22-04:00

I’m a veteran of Desert Storm and being a non-combatant (combat medic) I recently found out that I have anthrax antibodies. We didn’t have the anthrax vaccines back then so it wasn’t from that and I’ve been trying to get help in filing and just hitting walls. I ended up going into kidney failure a year after I got out and required a transplant. I’m just frustrated with the denial from the VA. They know there are veterans out there who need help but refuse or make it so difficult to get help it’s almost criminal.

Response by SPC Richard Rauenhorst made Sep 9 at 2023 9:06 AM

2023-09-09T09:06:19-04:00

My experience showed me that during Basic Training people were not given proper equipment to protect their health. Example, ear plugs, proper boots. I also believe that people drafted with proven prior health condition should be compensated for aggravation of these conditions. Example, broken neck, compressed vertebrae in back. Furthermore everyone in Vietnam was exposed to AGENT ORANGE and conditions may take years to show up.

Response by SPC David C. made Sep 10 at 2023 11:53 PM

2023-09-10T23:53:43-04:00

The answer is very clear here, your question isn't. Would you ask a Purple Heart recipient if they felt guilty for zigging when they should have of zagged? Why ask the obvious?

Response by SGT Erick Holmes made Sep 12 at 2023 11:33 AM

2023-09-12T11:33:50-04:00

No you shouldn't. If something happened to you while you were in the military during Active Duty or Special Military orders, and you get injured then you should claim that. I understand that people feel bad because they never went overseas to serve. You have to remember that just because you never went overseas for combat tinjuries happen state side as well as overseas.

Response by CPL Charles Domm made Sep 12 at 2023 8:52 PM

2023-09-12T20:52:24-04:00

NO/ Volunteering for military service with the potentials for combat or other missions that should not and can not be generally carried out by civilians, 9s a special call-to-duty always. Less than 1 percent of us are from active duty service and whatever occurs during those periods one way or another should have a compensation from then on.

Response by SPC Brian Mason made Sep 12 at 2023 11:38 PM

2023-09-12T23:38:01-04:00

No.
I'm sure most on Active Duty who've deployed at least once have or will end up with permanent damage to their back and knees at a minimum. My knees are fine but my back would have not become as it is had I not joined the Army.
I have hearing loss in my R ear (explosions, gunfire, etc) at very close range.
If a person is "hurt" to the point of one's quality of life being affected enough there is no shame.
There can be mental and emotional damage you can't see. War changes people, permanently.

Response by SMSgt Jeff Kyle made Sep 13 at 2023 2:18 AM

2023-09-13T02:18:00-04:00

No. I was badly injured while still on active duty. This happened about a year before I retired. All my plans for retirement went down the tubes. Couldn’t work and retirement checks weren’t anywhere near what I needed to keep from losing everything. I applied for VA comp as quickly as I could after retiring. It still took me several months to get approval. It was touch and go on whether we’d lose everything we worked for. The VA eventually approved me. It took over two years to finally get 100% P&T. The next battle was for Social Security Disability. That took over two years to get through the process. In the end it too was approved. We can’t live extravagantly. We have a roof over our heads and food in the fridge. We have enough to buy a truck every 7-8 years. It was hard won battles. I never felt guilty about going to the VA. Same with SSDI. I earned my VA benefits. The rest was earned as well.

Response by PFC Doyle Hayes made Sep 13 at 2023 10:11 AM

2023-09-13T10:11:03-04:00

No the military destroys your body and you deserve to be compensated

Response by 1SG Ernest Stull made Sep 13 at 2023 6:07 PM

2023-09-13T18:07:51-04:00

What should be classified as a non-combat to a combat injury. Soldiers should be compensated for their injury whether in peacetime or combat.

Response by Sgt Robert Anchors made Sep 14 at 2023 5:20 PM

2023-09-14T17:20:47-04:00

Oh hell no. You volunteered to give your life when you signed up 24x7x365. Whether you served in combat was not up to you. He who waits also serves applies here. Don't let anyone try to make you feel bad about getting benefits.

Response by LCpl Jose Lugo made Sep 14 at 2023 6:10 PM

2023-09-14T18:10:06-04:00

A injury is an injury wether combat or not combat related it was sustained while serving the USA.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Sep 14 at 2023 10:48 PM

2023-09-14T22:48:34-04:00

Short answer: No.
Long answer: No!!!!!

Response by PFC Francine Fontana made Sep 15 at 2023 2:15 AM

2023-09-15T02:15:50-04:00

So long as it's honest, NO!

Response by 1SG Chad Mcdaniel made Sep 15 at 2023 2:51 PM

2023-09-15T14:51:37-04:00

Are we seriously questioning this? If you got injured while serving you deserve a rating. The bottom line less than 1% of all Americans volunteer for service, enough said!

Response by Sgt Francis Santa-Teresa made Sep 18 at 2023 6:52 AM

2023-09-18T06:52:41-04:00

I was stationed at Edwards AFB back in 1984. I was a young airman eager to start my AF career. After living off base for almost two years, I became eligible for base housing. My wife and I moved in and settled into our new surroundings, along with our newborn baby. Six months after moving in, I developed a persistent cough. Doctors at the base hospital diagnosed me with asthma. This conditioned worsened and I had to accept a medical discharge. I was awarded a 60 percent service connected disability. The severity of my asthma worsened and my disability went up from 60 to 100 percent. I found out later, that mine was not an isolated case. I read an article in the Air Force Times that there was a class action lawsuit brought on by a group of former base employees who all came down with breathing problems.
I had planned on making a career with the Air Force, but the turn of events precluded that from happening.

Response by CPT Larry Hudson made Oct 8 at 2023 7:22 PM

2023-10-08T19:22:52-04:00

Absolutely NOT! Military's service subjects soldiers to various threats and circumstances.
USAF are generally subjected to high frequency noise
US Army: High frequencies; cannon fire; rocket fire; rifle fire everything that goes squeak or boom in addition to broken bones and minds.
US Navy: aircraft taking off carriers; rockets fired from ships; cannon fire; nuclear and equipment damages
Marines: drinking water and all the machinery related to combat and combat support.

Response by LT Steven Sterry made Oct 13 at 2023 2:52 AM

2023-10-13T02:52:52-04:00

If the claim is legitimate, you should file. Some veterans are either told or have the idea that if they file their claim, somebody else's claim might be denied. That is hogwash. Budget for the VA is partially based upon the number of claims that are filed in the previous fiscal year. So, if somebody does not file when they deserve compensation, the VA will get less money.

Response by Cpl George Matousek made Oct 13 at 2023 12:22 PM

2023-10-13T12:22:17-04:00

Why? They served and got hurt so they deserve the the disability. Semper Fi

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Oct 13 at 2023 3:44 PM

2023-10-13T15:44:47-04:00

Before I answer that, answer this: Should a veteran who was gang-raped by their commanding officer and his friends at an all-ranks ball receive VA disability compensation, even though it was a non-combat related injury? Yes, this did happen. I was the SHARP Rep who had to write up the report and assist the investigating officer.

Response by PO2 Frank Inscore made Oct 13 at 2023 10:08 PM

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Response by SPC Ken Cain made Oct 14 at 2023 1:48 PM

2023-10-14T13:48:30-04:00

I have a chronic cough that is service related and because of the cough it has caused me to get a umbilical hernia. But the VA refuses to see the connection and there for refuses to treat it. This "service related" label to me just sounds like more excuses to not help veterans. Remember the Stop Loss? How many veterans was called back to active duty for that? It should not matter if it's service related or not, taking care of us veterans should always be priority so that in the event any of us need to be called back to service we can be healthy enough to do so.

Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Oct 15 at 2023 2:02 PM

2023-10-15T14:02:45-04:00

Absolutely not. If the VA is willing to award compensation for those types of Injuries, then what's the problem?

Response by SP5 Michael Lewis made Oct 15 at 2023 6:54 PM

2023-10-15T18:54:19-04:00

No, I don't think so. I get a service connected disability and have for over 30 years. It was for an injury that I received while in the Army. I had 10 plus years in prior to getting out with the disability.

Response by CW4 Richard Norton made Oct 19 at 2023 12:29 AM

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Response by PO3 John Fahrer made Oct 19 at 2023 1:28 PM

2023-10-19T13:28:18-04:00

I am a 100% Service connected disabled VET. It's the US Navy that should feel bad that I was in a Naval Hospital for 10 months. It was negligence that the Navy refused to provide us 32 men with nothing but a E3 med Tec, that destroyed my health for the rest of my life!

What gets me is how many men my age never served at all. I lived in CA and most every man my age was either drafted or enlisted. How did so many men is ages 70 to 82 not have to serve? That really irks me.

Response by SFC Edward Sneed made Oct 20 at 2023 9:23 AM

2023-10-20T09:23:33-04:00

I'm a retired Army veteran and receiving VA Disability. I definitely do not feel bad about getting disability, and I did not do any combat time. My service record speaks for itself when retiring under honorable conditions. Besides, my disability is for my service connected qualifications and not combat.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2023 12:46 PM

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Response by SGT David Bower made Oct 20 at 2023 2:23 PM

2023-10-20T14:23:11-04:00

Negative!
It took me Decades to acquire va healthcare benefits as an honorably discharged DS/DS veteran. No one should ever even have an opinion on a benefit that you receive as it is not their business and was VA approved which we all know can be difficult to get.

Response by SGT Kerry Sommers made Oct 21 at 2023 6:54 PM

2023-10-21T18:54:57-04:00

Not only no but hell no. There are many ways to disability wither being shot. Take a look at the toxins used all over the world. The obvious one is Vietnam veterans being sprayed with all types of toxins. Burn pits were not invented in the gulf wars. The Military routinely burned everything they didn't know act to do with. If you served in the 60's, 70's and 80's you were exposed to toxins. Do your research. DOD studied all the bases they used toxic chemicals and the results on online. Many bases were Superfund Sites. Military was reckless using chemicals without knowing the damage they did to people.

Response by SFC Larry Jones made Nov 26 at 2023 12:33 AM

2023-11-26T00:33:05-05:00

Well, let's see. In 1991, I had been a recruiter for seven years. I had undiagnosed sleep apnea and narcolepsy. I was on my way to my third high school for the day when I fell asleep behind the wheel and subsequently spent two months in a hospital recovering and learning how to walk again. In the meantime, I got a new Command Team who refused, after I returned to duty, to recognize my limitations, which led to another surgery and my health deteriorating pretty badly. So, no, I don't feel the least bit guilty about my 100% disability rating.

Response by PO3 Dale Olson made Nov 26 at 2023 7:01 PM

2023-11-26T19:01:54-05:00

You dam straight... I lost some of hearing do to listening ECM gear on a Westpac deployment. I also lost part of the vision in my left do to an altercation. Lastly I went thru the Atomic tests at Johnston Island.

Response by SSgt Edward Collins made Nov 26 at 2023 9:03 PM

2023-11-26T21:03:48-05:00

BS Question. I was in a combat zone for 365 days I survived two Sapper Attacks and several 122 rocket attacks. I sustained injuries and infections there. The injuries were non combat related. 46 years later I'm diagnosed with 70% PTSD. 49 years later I'm 100% permanent and total and compensated for House bound. Directly related to the injures documented including 43 surgical procedures while in service and now my total procedures amount to 54. No I don't feel band because I didn't take a bullet or shrapnel. I kept my PTSD symptoms to myself on VA assessments for those 46 years I got careless on one physical and the doc caught me and put it in the record and the nightmare began for a year and a half. That's behind me now.

Response by SPC Dennis Foley made Nov 26 at 2023 11:15 PM

2023-11-26T23:15:39-05:00

Absolutely not!Example is agent orange,how many handle this product that were not involved in combat operations?How many Veterans have died from this?

Response by SSG Joseph Haggerty made Dec 4 at 2023 8:42 AM

2023-12-04T08:42:49-05:00

Disabilities received outside of combat occur to a much greater extent than during combat! I do not feel bad or lesser earned at all. What I feel I have issues about is being a solder, trained to perform a mission of protecting my country and working side by side with fellow brothers in combat, but never allowed the chance. Not being tested or charging a chance to actually fight for our shared belief. Guess some type of weird survivors guilt! Does this make sense?

Response by SGT C Reed made Dec 6 at 2023 8:47 PM

2023-12-06T20:47:46-05:00

People like to focus their hero worship (thanks to Hollywood, etc) on the pointy end of the stick, the heroes on the very front line, but the strongest/biggest part of the spear is the staff that holds it up and sends it out. Neither end of this 'weapon' is much good without the other. Service is service.

Response by SPC Richard Fox made Dec 6 at 2023 9:23 PM

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2023 11:34 PM

2023-12-06T23:34:39-05:00

It should not matter at all as we are all military the puepose of the military is to train for combat Operations and to fight all enemy foreign or domestic. Whether sitting in a chair or training in the field we train for combat. People need to stop worrying about everyone else and worry about themselves. Much luv.

Response by PO3 Mickey Mishra made Dec 6 at 2023 11:47 PM

2023-12-06T23:47:17-05:00

I did for a LONG time thinking I was not tough enough to hang with the rest. Whatever was going on I worked through it best I could. I always remember my Supply officer saying things like "Living of the government Tit" while I was in.

Thing about having a severe TBI? You really don't know "see" it yourself. You just kind of wonder why everyone around you seems to be different. Almost 15 years latter, I got a lawyer to take care of a rating issue and have help with the VA as I was having no luck as a DAV Member.

Well? After sending me to get rated right close to home? They found out I had a SEVERE TBI.
I always thought it was just me being to stupid to remember reading a tape measure, then forgetting how to do it the next few days I had to do it again. Same thing with tasks, (So now my problems towards the end of my enlistment now made sense now)

Caused me severe issues with people not being able to understand me. Even having LEO's thinking I was under drugs. Never been on them, and never even smoked pot. Not an alky or anything.

At one point in Palo Alto, I had came in complaining about having an adverse reaction to some Head meds they gave me. TOld me not to drive if I did not feel that I could and to wait till you could.

Did just that at the Palo Alto VA Hospital and followed the directions of the Doctor. Told the VA police the same thing as I was working away from home (in oregon) and would be in my car filling out paperwork and looking over blueprints of the next Job we had at a target we had to rewire the data room.

I had trouble speaking, as well and my vision was a bit hazy it seemed.
I was visited by 3 other officers to make sure I was okay. Thought nothing of it.

I get out of my car to throw away my coffee cup in the trash, and a "Female" approaches me and asks me if I have my wallet on me. I could not see very well, and I said:
"Are you sure you are a police officer" in a Respectful, but questioning way" as I had my wallet stolen this way before.

Next thing I know, I am being Handcuffed
Ruffed up.
Slammed to the ground on my arse!

My hands got sprained or something and then it felt like my hands were on Fire when they were trying to take the cuffs off. I'll admit it. I yelped in pain... Not my proudest moment.
Had no idea why they did this to me as I did what I was told to do by not only the VA doctors and staff, but also by the VA police who I was told to inform that I was having issues.

Later on they found out I could not speak properly, was not Drunk. Not on "Illicit Substances" and even had my letter from the doc that I showed the Officer on Duty, and told him my company was looking for a place for me to stay in the local palo alto area, but it would be a bit.

They did eventually take me to the E.R. and got me looked over, but told me I had Carpal TUnnel?
Not Nerve damage from my Hand being Pulled at an extreme angle when they pushed me down to the dirt on the edge of the sidewalk. Almost felt like my hand was broken/ sprained.

I has trouble punching down cables afterwards and doing other things related to my L.V.E. Job.
Took YEARS to get to the point where I could go back to making ethernet cables or doing Board work just do to this.

After this, and a few other things, I left. Sadly, no longer making the $15,000 a month I was making at the time working in California.

Anyways, years later, I wanted to get my hands checked out as they were only getting worse.
So I picked up a lawyer after hearing about Combat Craig.
About 2 years latter? I was awarded 100% TBI.

THing is? I',m pretty sure I'm suppose to be rated higher, but I just want to get on with life.
I really can't deal with much at all. Nor remember to many things. And I already got LOTS on my plate as is.

Thingis? I wish it did not take almost 15 yeas ormore to get here. But Glad I got a lawyer to get things handled for me since I really can't do them on my own. I just loose track of things and my short term memory is about bollaks.

I really did go throgh hell while in serivice and many things I don't dare speak off. Even today.
But do I feel guilty? Sometimes I do. Why? I see so many other Vets that have it even worse then I do. Some can't even walk, or even have any limbs.

I'm thankful. But man, I would rather be 100& Healthy then 100% Gimped for life.
I know this sounds odd to some, but its weird being "stuck at 23" while all your other freinds and people you know grew up all around you.

What I will tell the rest of you?
NEVER Feel any SHame about getting the help you need to get back to working or living whatever life you have. We don't got much for many of us anyways left.

I just wish this was Diagnosed sonner. Would have made a really big difference in my life.

Response by SSgt Juan Aguilar Richard made Dec 7 at 2023 3:27 PM

2023-12-07T15:27:52-05:00

We Need Shifting of Our Focus and Understanding the Veteran's Journey Beyond Combat Injuries. Let us take in consideration the new challenges of a soldier which frequently extend beyond the battlefield in the complicated fabric of his or her life. Yes, we are trained to be the best but deep inside we are still singular creatures. Our culture sometimes ignores service personnel' sacrifices, particularly those connected to non-combat injuries and the toll a military career has on personal well-being.
The Hidden Battles of Aging and Service: Many veterans are affected by the consequences of aging as well as continuous, tough duty. To stay eligible for deployments, training, and promotions, career-focused troops may conceal their physical or mental issues. This hidden fight demonstrates their commitment, as they value duty over personal health, often at the expense of their long-term well-being (Selfless Service).
Family Sacrifices: Serving requires more than just personal devotion; it also has a profound impact on families. Veterans routinely press the 'pause button' on family life, leaving behind tales of sacrifice and perseverance that might serve as inspiration for novels. These stories are not just about heroism, but also about personal loss and hardship. I met a hero who was going through a divorce; he must have been 20-21 years old when he returned in a body bag a few weeks later. I was heartbroken since his benefits should have gone to his mother rather than the childless fictitious spouse.
Transitioning from active service to civilian life presents its own set of problems. Veterans seeking benefits face not only bureaucratic impediments, but also social preconceptions. Remarks that minimize their requirements or call their entitlement to benefits into question, such as casual remarks about utilizing 'just the parking' or ‘going to a regular shop for medication,’ these types of comments show a lack of understanding and respect for their service.
The Reality of VA Benefits: The benefits sought by veterans are not exceptional privileges; rather, they are promises made by a grateful nation in appreciation of their service. However, the path to these advantages might be hampered by prejudice and misunderstanding. In our culture, which is sadly evident in certain VA facilities, this prejudice weakens the support structure created to help us, the veterans.
I am very aware that some clinics around the nation are better than others. Well then, if McDonalds can manage to be continuously persistent in their service. Then maybe we need A Call for Recognition and Support. It is critical to acknowledge that military service members and injured veterans are individuals who have made enormous sacrifices. Their sensation of being abandoned by the government for which they worked serves as a sharp reminder of our joint responsibilities. We must work hard to understand their stories, recognize their efforts, and ensure they receive the support and respect they are due.
Cease the belief that your taxes are responsible for providing me with these deserved benefits. If the money does not belong to your household, then restrain yourself, it would be wise for you to refrain from involving yourself in the lives of others, since you have no power to change or alter their circumstances. When you have something to say and should, you are reserved and modest, yet in situations when your contribution is not required and no one asked you, you eagerly express yourself without restraint.

Response by A1C Joel Jakubowski made Dec 7 at 2023 3:53 PM

2023-12-07T15:53:23-05:00

Certainly not ---but why must a vet be awarded 30%+ in order to qualify for dental --astounding!

Response by SPC Rick Price made Dec 9 at 2023 1:39 AM

2023-12-09T01:39:16-05:00

No way. I have both. I chipped my clavicle moving a target off a humvee for 50-cal training AND I have many injuries I sustained during deploymentS.
sustaining injures from combat or not is a moot point.

Response by Cpl Rosemarie SantaAnna made Dec 10 at 2023 12:10 AM

2023-12-10T00:10:34-05:00

No!...
Most of us Veteran joined when young...
We lived life without care to what we did to our body for work, duty, boot camp and some daily physical training...today our body says we should have not done those things which effect our body as we get older (bones, muscles and intern stuff)..

Response by CPL Tanya Otey made Dec 21 at 2023 11:05 AM

2023-12-21T11:05:36-05:00

Im an 100% disabled vet who was frostbitten in korea in 84. when I moved on to Germany 2yrs in ? I became allergic to cold weather cold drinks cold things on my skin and got kicked out because they couldn't cure it, and they certainly were not going to send me to Hawaii. whent I was put out I had severance pay and a 0% rating. after about 10 years of having to be super super careful in ohio weather- where I was from it finally went into remission. the damage to my feet NEVER went away all kinds of problems, infections disgusting peeling arthritis set into feet and went to my knees and the whole experience of pain and weird reaction because of weather nearly drove me to suicide! I felt like I was losing my sanity over that weird mess!! finally in 2009 I was awarded 100% both knees and feet and my mental heath were awarded.I had to fight tooth and nail and had been fighting since I got out as things became worse, so yes if u r doing your job while serving your country and not doing anything stupid that lead up to the injury? u deserve it cause I know I did. I had an incompetent sarge in korea and were on a mkt kitchen and this fool did not have the proper equipment between the floor and our feet- no pallets the idiot had some little rug on the floor of mkt kitchen in dead of winter. I did not know I had been hurt til hours later I couldn't feel my feet. I was from ohio so did not know something bad was happening! so be aware of your surroundings and of incompetent leaders in your unit. this whole experience made me angry af. I have helped other vets fight for their compensation. be tenacious as a pit bull when u know that u were injured doing your job and dont ever give up fighting for it!!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2023 4:25 PM

2023-12-24T16:25:22-05:00

Not one bit! As a reservist, I currently have a 40 percent disability rating with the VA and altbough I was deployed (Qatar 2012), I never saw combat. Military service fosters a variety of physical and mental stressors that impact servicemebers differently.

For every combat arms solider who suffers sharpnel wounds or IED related injuries, there is a 68 series with degenerative disks or other lasting, potentially chronic ailments that adversely impact their overall health. Let's not forget those who were directly exposed to burn pits who suffer lifelong upper respiratory conditions and face a high risk of cancer and other horrific complications.

During my time as a Veteran Service Rep at the VA, I lost count of how many Veterans adamantly refused to even attempt to obtain a disability rating despite admitting to severe service related injuries. Some guys just don't want to accept that it's ok to get compensated and should not feel ashamed. Anyone who raises their right hand and takes the oath embodies a level of dedication and sacrifice that most Americans will never understand. Thus, getting compensated for ailments incurred as a result of such sacrifices should never be minimized!

Stay safe and God Bless

Response by SPC Matt Ovaska made Jan 1 at 2024 8:32 AM

2024-01-01T08:32:45-05:00

Try getting help if you're infected with Agent Orange. A female doctor in Virginia reported the connection with Agent Orange and serious health issues in the early 70"s. They fired her and burned the records of the Vietnam vets in a warehouse in St Lewis. Then the vet gets accused of falsifying their DD214. I still have my original. I made a copy of it when I applied for the Agent Orange register. They lost my application and said I never applied. Soon we will all be dead and they won't have to refuse us any more. The Agent Orange Registry is a sham I talked to a Captain who said he's 100% disabled. I told him he didn't look disabled. He said all Vietnam Vets get 100%. I guess NCO's need not apply.

Response by SPC Kevin Schober made Feb 21 at 2024 11:30 PM

2024-02-21T23:30:10-05:00

I do not feel bad at all.My injuries are service connected. My condition continued to get worse after I left the service. Finally I was unable to work anymore so why should I feel bad for getting help. I completed my enlistment and served my time. If I had stayed in 2-4 months more I would have ended up in Iraq like my buddies looking for Saddam

Response by Cpl Michael Mclaughlin made Feb 22 at 2024 12:37 PM

2024-02-22T12:37:28-05:00

LT Col that is an excellent answer, thank you

Response by SrA Don Oberlies made Feb 22 at 2024 2:31 PM

2024-02-22T14:31:21-05:00

I’m sorry I know a veteran who is collecting for ptsd and she was peace time admin. Some things are not acceptable!

Response by 1SG John Millan made Feb 22 at 2024 8:08 PM

2024-02-22T20:08:24-05:00

Of course not

Response by TSgt Yumanja Craine made Feb 23 at 2024 3:09 AM

2024-02-23T03:09:32-05:00

No one should feel bad about receiving disability. Disability is disability no matter if it was for peace time or war time. Like someone said you can't help when you were injured or not, if you served your time in the military then you should be awarded compensation, period

Response by SSG David Foreman made Feb 23 at 2024 2:25 PM

2024-02-23T14:25:08-05:00

Never feel bad about being awarded A disability. I spent nearly 20 years as a US Army Military Technician and my last duty assignment was Camp Pendelton. The Marines had some serious accidents operating the AMTRACKS. In the test pond in Area 21. I spent a lot of my 42-year service in Armor and Armored Calvery. and we had soldiers injured and killed in training accidents.

Response by SP5 Brian Fife made Feb 24 at 2024 11:26 AM

2024-02-24T11:26:56-05:00

It depends. I have examined a lot of veterans with 80-100% disability. (All disability levels) most have actual injuries but a large percentage do not. Paralysis of sciatic nerve. I see it all the time. Yet probably only a few actually have it. One 34 year old vet said his knees were so badly injured in the Air Force they want to replace them. He was 80 % disabled with all is impairments. Yet X-rays, MRI exam tests all showed he had excellent knees. No degeneration, no sign of injury. Another served 3 -4 months before he was put out medically for severe forearm pain from rucking everyday with a 65 pound back pack. His AIT was at goodfellow air force base and this phony didn’t realize I had served during his time in service and I had some friends who went to AIT for same MOS that and no one did ruck marches there. We talk about stolen valor but stolen benefits is probably a bigger problem. My opinion is if you have to think hard of a disability you “qualify” for it’s probably not bothering you much or at all. But if you truly have impairment that is service connected then by all means get what your entitled too.

Response by SSgt Scott Ezra made Feb 25 at 2024 12:01 PM

2024-02-25T12:01:08-05:00

That ridiculous. The US Coast Guard risks their lives every single day going after drug traffickers, arms dealers, illegal migrants, poachers, etc. Yet, according to that theory no one in the Coast Guard would ever be eligible for veteran benefits? That's just stupid.
There are plenty of ways to sacrifice your life and health for this country. Combat isn't the only sacrifice and anyone that thinks so is a total moron.

Response by PFC Clifford Kelley made Feb 25 at 2024 8:21 PM

2024-02-25T20:21:04-05:00

I had a training accident which resulted in a TBI that caused a seizure severe enough that it stopped my heart. Needless to say that ended my career. Not just military. So I will answer your question with a question Do I deserve VA Disability?

Response by SGT William Page made Feb 26 at 2024 10:29 AM

2024-02-26T10:29:39-05:00

My experience is before the end of the draft. From day one a a person is subjected to physical and mental requirements that set in motion many challenges that may not manifest until later in life. These are service-related injuries no matter how it is looked at.

Response by Cpl Jeff Ruffing made Feb 27 at 2024 2:06 PM

2024-02-27T14:06:47-05:00

Hell to the NO! I didn’t ask for my hearing to be taken away. I didn’t ask to drink contaminated water. There is a LOT more I didn’t ask to happen in peace time to me. I just don’t want to rant and lose my military bearing. If you got hurt whether peace or war, your employer owes you.

Response by PO1 Joseph Glennon made Feb 27 at 2024 2:09 PM

2024-02-27T14:09:51-05:00

Interesting question.
Tell me, do combat troops take care of all their logistics? Their supply? The "background stuff" that makes it possible for them to complete their missions?

Our combat troops are astounding, and absolutely deserve our respect. However, they can't, and don't, do it on their own.

My own disabilities are from sustained damage that I accrued over 20 years of service in the Navy. I took the exact same oath that our brothers-in-arms did, including being willing to go into harm's way... which I did, though not slogging through the mud. None of my disabilities nor injuries were caused due to incoming fire. None of them are inconsequential, though. The combined effects on my body absolutely changed the future that I'd be able to enjoy.

Do I feel bad about receiving disability? Not at all. Should I? I guess that's up to the folks like you, who apparently don't feel that anything short of being a target is worthy.
I do, however, regret having the NEED for disability in the first place... not that it causes me the "if I could go back in time" nonsense.

Response by CPO Kurt Baschab made Mar 2 at 2024 2:29 AM

2024-03-02T02:29:25-05:00

Answer is NO!
every single vet deserves there VA Benefits.

When you are on Active Duty, you are on duty and call 24-7,
what are you asking? or saying ,
that every service member that was Killed, or seriously Injured during Training missions do not deserve to Receive VA Disability Compensation ?
are you saying , that every Service member that was Seriously Injured because the service did not have the proper safety equipment , should not receive VA Benefits?

are you saying every service member that was Seriously injured in a car accident driving to or from work, or to there next duty station should not receive there Disability benefits?
are you implying every service member that was Seriously injured while working or doing routine maintenance should not Receive Disability benefits?
are you saying every service member who spent years going to the firing range and got injured by a firearm or weapon that should Malfunction, should not be Compensated by the VA
or is suffering from Tinnitus, ?

if you receive a injury while on active duty the Gov has promised to take care of you,
remember it is Approximately 7 % to 8% of the American Population has volunteered to serve and protect this nation, out of that 7% to 8% only 3% to 4 % is on active duty ,
the other 3 to 4% is retired vets from WWII , Korea, Vietnam, 1st & 2nd gulf war, and the war on terror , it not a large % of the American population that volunteer to serve and protect .

Response by SSgt Richard Jordan made Mar 22 at 2024 11:28 PM

2024-03-22T23:28:43-04:00

I think compensation should be as it is for everyone with service related injuries, but SPECIAL ATTENTION AND BENEFITS should be paid to Combat Related injuries. I have seen many people who have been in combat with purple hearts and are 20% or 30% Service Connected Disability and people who served in the Air Force or National Guard who have never been in combat with 100% and Total Service Connection Disability...Something is wrong there.

Response by SSgt Richard Jordan made Mar 22 at 2024 11:28 PM

2024-03-22T23:28:59-04:00

Response by PFC Charles Chambliss made Mar 23 at 2024 4:15 PM

2024-03-23T16:15:31-04:00

The only thing that counts is a panel is needed to award the compensation based on the facts.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 23 at 2024 6:45 PM

2024-03-23T18:45:56-04:00

No. SMs have been worn down by Iraq and Afghanistan to include all the other events that cause stress. The tremendous number of requirements put on the soldiers have taken its toll.

Iraq and Afghanistan have really worn down the army. I specify the army because it provided most of the combatants, support units, and headquarters. The stress level can be high and sustained. The army created a system where soldiers that are subjected to:

- PCS moves.
- Training for deployment.
- Noncombat training.
- Deployments.
- Schools.
- Learning new jobs.

Throw in which can break the camel's back.
- Combat injuries.
- Noncombat injuries.
- Divorces.
- Sudden loss of a family member.
- Mental illnesses.

Civilians, in general, have much more stable lives, thus they are more resilient. SMs and specifically the soldiers have been worn down the last two decades.

Response by MAJ Gregory Moon made Mar 24 at 2024 6:00 PM

2024-03-24T18:00:47-04:00

Your back or knees don't care if the abuse they received came from combat or not. My ears still ring whether or my tinnitus and hearing loss occurred because of riding in M35 trucks in training or being exposed to loud blasts in Iraq. So know if it is service related that is the law. PS you ain't getting rich on disability. I would trade good ears for the $175 a month.

Response by MSG Karl Arrington made Mar 26 at 2024 11:25 AM

2024-03-26T11:25:30-04:00

Veterans should not feel bad about compensation for non combat related injuries. Most, if not all military training places stress on the body and that can result in injury. That training is preparation for combat service as well, making it combat related.

Response by MSgt Willie County Jr made Mar 26 at 2024 3:33 PM

2024-03-26T15:33:32-04:00

Not at all, a veteran is a veteran, combat or non-combat!!!! The military got the prime years of my life (17-36) and if I received qualifying injuries and or mental issues they should be compensated for by the government.

Response by SN J W made Mar 28 at 2024 1:48 PM

2024-03-28T13:48:54-04:00

What a stupid question. I have plenty of service connect FUs like AFFF, red lead paint, solvents cleaning engine parts et al. So far all I get is for hearing loss. The process took so long that it discourages me to apply for the rest as I may be dead by old age before they come to fruition.
In the Coast Guard only fantail fireflies ruled the night

Response by SN Kristi Kalis made Apr 6 at 2024 10:50 PM

2024-04-06T22:50:27-04:00

It's not combat-related. It's service-connected. People get injured all the time in the service. They should receive benefits if it makes a life-long issue. My uncle has malaria from his deployment in Panama. Should he be denied benefits because he wasn't in combat?

Response by Maj Joan Marine made Apr 7 at 2024 7:57 AM

2024-04-07T07:57:31-04:00

No way!