Posted on Jul 16, 2014
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Not to piss more of you off about the "Should a 2LT salute a 1LT?" thread moving to the top of the most recent discussions every 5 seconds but I haven't thought about the Warrant Officers on this subject.

So I have a 2ndLt on deck in my unit now and I asked him and our 1stLt about them saluting each other and they explained that also Warrant Officers and Chief Warrant Officers in addition to the Lieutenants never salute each other and it's widely accepted in the Marine Corps under the "one bar rule."

I'm just seeking your thoughts on this.
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CW5 Michael Scheller
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Hold on! What we are truly discussing is a professional exchange or greeting. I, a Warrant Officer, greet many professionals each day. Some are required by regulation to INITIATE the exchange (salute) with me while with others I must be the initiator. I do not simply salute a Lieutenant; he or she in return salutes me. I salute and greet enlisted and noncommissioned officers daily and am proud to do so.

Too many Soldiers, including some of my brethren Warrant Officers, look upon this as a burden instead of a friendly exchange that it truly is. This is similar to saying "good morning ma'am" to a lady I encounter at the grocery store. Initiating that greeting did not make me subordinate to her, however it did enhance my sense of pride in being a gentleman. I take similar pride in being a military professional and thus gladly initiate and return the salute when appropriate.
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BG Brigade Commander
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I salute you!
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PVT CH-47 Helicopter Repairer
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I am a PV2 in our Army and I feel pride every time I can salute a professional in our trade.
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SPC Aviation Operations Specialist
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As a soldier that was in aviation saluting becomes not much more than a nuisance
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SSG Erik McKinster
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Excellent poit
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CW5 Sam B.
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It is an ABSOLUTE YES on all accounts, yes warrant officers are commissioned, but the rank structure still places me below a LT (who usually for some reason calls me "sir") and above the CSM. Some folks try to place field grade on warrants, no such animal, but then the new OER places us there on the OER. This here Army is a confusing beast at times, but all warrants will salute a LT and if not, beware if I am around. SMOKED is what you will be!

caveat....when my daughter graduates USNA in 2016 she will out rank me after 30 years of service on her first day!

**UPDATE** We are now covered in the Army Regulations as Field Grade for CW3/4 and Senior Field Grade for CW5 and we ALL still salute the 2LT!.
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CW5 Edward "Tate" Jones Jr.
CW5 Edward "Tate" Jones Jr.
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LTC Barry Hull Actually CW2 and above have been commissioned for quite a long time now. As to leadership, during my 25 years as a Warrant I commanded a 360 man Service Support Compsny for 20 months and was THE S3 of an MI Battalion for 17 months. Warrants now routinely serve in leadership positions and do well at them.
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COL Tom Dials
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My father retired as a CWO-4 (QM) in 1971 and always took great pride in the distinction between a warrant and commissioned officer. He almost disowned me when I was commissioned and rolled over in his grave when DoD began commissioning its warrants. Warrants sure made my life easier during my career, so thanx to all of you.
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WO1 Mike Dwyer
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As a former warrant officer my biggest gripe about the whole appointed/commissioned company/field grade is giving CW3s, 4s, and 5s oak leaves on their cap visors. It's ludicrous and unnecessary. Just my opinion, which means nothing.
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CW5 Sam B.
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COL Tom Dials There are several MOS that actually command, very few, but someone obviously thought it was needed. Rotorheads, we really don't mind, this was a tech issue. Thanks for your service and warrants still work silently behind the scenes accomplishing the mission.
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I saluted a 2LT on Thursday and he did not correct me. Case closed.
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MSG Reid Zohfeld
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Chief 5 you had to be yanking on the 2lt chain by saluting him/her If you had to then it confirms how weak Chief 5 have become. My days Chiefs where gods and no one messed or screwed with them. I notice chiefs where becoming more wimps on my way out. I pray that this can be turned around and Chiefs can get the respect
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Arsenio Ibay
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Chief wasn't being weak. He was being professional.
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MSgt Signals Intelligence Analysis
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Choose your battles. A little courtesy goes a long way.
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MSG Richard Cooper, PMP, SIPM, CMAS
MSG Richard Cooper, PMP, SIPM, CMAS
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Until a SGT Medal of Honor walks up to anyone, then that is a different kettle of fish.
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