Should we go head to head with China in the South China Sea?

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 May 2015 08:14:06 -0400

It seems like we are being challenged on all fronts now.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/13/philippines-seeks-more-us-help-to-stop-chinese-land-reclamation-in-south-china/

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2015 8:55 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 May 2015 08:55:06 -0400

This is quickly becoming the new Cold War. Of course they are going to warn us against a head-to-head. Is it something we want? I would hope note considering China's fallback strategy is typically "throw people at them until they run out of ammo or prisoner space".

Response by COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM made May 13 at 2015 9:11 AM

COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM — Wed, 13 May 2015 09:11:56 -0400

- It does not "seem" like we are being challenged on all fronts. We are being challenged on all fronts. Russia has now invaded two of its neighbors in the last six years; China is pushing their neighbors from Japan to the Phillipines, Indonesia, to Vietnam; ISIS and Radical Islam are attacking on every level of war and on most continents (Asia, Africa, Europe, North America); Iran has fired upon and seized a private cargo ship. The list goes on.
- The reason for the above is that our friends do not have confidence that we have their backs and our enemies know that we either will not respond or will only respond with words to their challenge.
- The proper response is not complicated. It is basic "school yard bully" response tactics.
- With all above written, the proper response to China in the South China Sea is NOT to skip strategic escalation procedures and use only a military response. The proper response is to use our doctrine (shape, deter, defeat), leverage the whole of government (DIME), and help our friends in the region to help themselves.

Response by CW2 Joseph Evans made May 13 at 2015 9:37 AM

CW2 Joseph Evans — Wed, 13 May 2015 09:37:10 -0400

Maybe if we hadn't burned through $6 trillion in resources and an entire generation of patriots in the Middle East we might be in a better position to confront these very real challenges...

Still, If we were to boycott Chinese products in American stores (which will never happen because we are all lazy, greedy corporate pawns), we would directly shut down nearly $400 billion of their GDP. This would have a cumulative effect on both American and Chinese economies through national reinvestment giving America a net gain close to $2 trillion GDP relative to China.

The essence is, we've been financing this threat to American dominance through our trade deficit with China. The squandering of America's resources hasn't exactly helped either.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made May 13 at 2015 2:01 PM

PO1 Glenn Boucher — Wed, 13 May 2015 14:01:11 -0400

I vote yes but its a tentative yes. While someone needs to stand up to China's crazy advances concerning the Spratly Islands, we also need the support of the Philippines in doing this.
China has no respect for the international 12 mile limit on territory. I don't know what kind of measuring system China is using but it must be magical because there is no way that even an uneducated person can say that the Spratly Islands are within 12 miles of China. Those islands have been hotly contested by the Philippines and Malaysia for years not because of resources, oil, natural gas, and some others. How can China honestly say that its their territory when they never had any legal claim to it.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2015 4:11 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 May 2015 16:11:59 -0400

Is war China “inevitable,”?

http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2015/05/china-warns-inevitable-war-us-over-south-china-sea/113680/

China Warns of 'Inevitable' War with US Over South China Sea

China’s State Council just announced a new 'active defense' military strategy in a white paper criticizing 'external countries…meddling in South China Sea affairs.'

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made May 28 at 2015 1:12 PM

LCpl Mark Lefler — Thu, 28 May 2015 13:12:15 -0400

Yes we should, we'd bury them alive.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2015 10:42 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:42:55 -0400

Another update or at least another opinion

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-nye/us-china-south-china-sea_b_7503966.html

Is U.S.-China Conflict Imminent in the South China Sea?

OXFORD, England -- China seems to be trying to "create facts on the ground" -- what Admiral Harry Harris, the US commander in the Pacific, calls a new "great wall of sand." The U.S. response is designed to prevent China from creating a fait accompli that could close off large parts of the South China Sea. Nevertheless, the original policy of not becoming embroiled in the sovereignty dispute continues to make sense.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Jun 4 at 2015 10:54 AM

PFC Tuan Trang — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:54:51 -0400

We already loss too many men and women to the war in middle east, I think we shouldn't involve unless we have to.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 23 at 2015 9:09 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 09:09:06 -0400

Another incident granted in the Yellow Sea but Seas are Seas,
“This gets out of hand, we're gonna be caught in the biggest naval battle since the Jutland. Jesus!”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/23/chinese-fighter-jet-makes-unsafe-intercept-american-plane-over-yellow-sea/?intcmp=hpbt2

Chinese fighter jet makes unsafe intercept of Air Force plane over Yellow Sea, Pentagon says

The Pentagon said Tuesday that it was reviewing what it called an unsafe intercept of an Air Force reconnaissance plane by at least one Chinese jet over the Yellow Sea last week.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 23 at 2015 1:05 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Wed, 23 Sep 2015 13:05:25 -0400

The Chinese will stop sea routes for billions of dollars of goods for several countries.