Posted on Mar 1, 2016
Should we remove combat patches to be sensitive to those who don't have them?
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"(Unit Name withheld) BCT ordered to remove combat patches during training at Fort NoMatter so the ones without them don't get hurt feelings.
Reason? "The unit just returned from Afghanistan and almost everyone has a patch but the large influx of new soldiers are E1 and E2s that have never deployed and they are saying they are left out because they don't have a patch."
Reason? "The unit just returned from Afghanistan and almost everyone has a patch but the large influx of new soldiers are E1 and E2s that have never deployed and they are saying they are left out because they don't have a patch."
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Uhm no, when I went to basic I was in awe of the Vietnam Vets with their patches and just had respect for them. Should be treated just as skill badges, they earned the right to wear them. Let's put a limit on the sensitivity crap.
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I responded earlier but it occured to me certain policies should be addressed. There is a blanket caveat to 670-1 that justifies idiocy like this: "A Commander may add to but not take away from the Army standard". This means a CO or BC can order all their troops to be uniform for whatever reason. While I abhor such decisions, it is in their right, however subordinates can use command climate surveys and other official grievance methods to address morale issues etc. The fact there is a good deal of CYA and backpedaling by senior leaders in the 101st right now, grievances are being heard
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SFC Benjamin Varlese
The outcry was heard and the order has been rescinded. Hopefully this will serve as a learning experience for senior leaders in the future who succumb to the silver-tongued 'Good Idea Faerie'. It's nonsense like this and the now-amended draconian tattoo policy that massacres retention of seasoned veterans and weakens our force.
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You mean to tell me 2% of you candy assed sons of bitches said yes???????? I wonder which PFC that BDE CDR is going to ask to approve his leave form??? Holy hell I'm glad I retired. Do me a favor, if the SHTF just leave me out of it I'll go rogue and keep my Hooah all to myself instead.
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Why is this question even being entertained? PC is ruining peoples normal thought process.
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Seriously!! Is this even a question?!? This isn't boy/Girl Scouts I'm sorry but this softness needs to stop! The ones who have deployed in a combat zone deserve their patch! I did a Peace keeping mission and I don't have a patch for deployment because it wasn't combat& I'm ok with that!! People need to relax & do what they signed up to do!!
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SGM Erik Marquez
And there we have a voice of reason from the very demographic that supposedly needs to be protected from the evils of the have and have nots.
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Remove combat patches and badges so the newer troops don't feel intimidated? Maybe they also need to deploy with GP Medium "safe room" tents, complete with soothing New Age music, scented candles, and Teddy bears.
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You're not going to believe this crap. 3 BCT is not the only command doing this. 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division and others are doing this SH*T to.
Read the entire article. I really want to know what the hell these commanders are thinking.
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/03/551421-soldiers-furious-after-what-army-combat-teams-are-making-them-take-off-their-uniforms/?
Read the entire article. I really want to know what the hell these commanders are thinking.
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/03/551421-soldiers-furious-after-what-army-combat-teams-are-making-them-take-off-their-uniforms/?
Soldiers Are Furious After What Army Combat Teams Are Making Them Take Off Their Uniforms
"We lost all the men we respect to..."
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I do not know, but I will lose some rank if a unit I'm in ever tries some nonsense like this.
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Don't buy into this guys! This is a former Ranger battalion colonel getting his guys to go sterile like the regt does. I've talked to people in the know and this is NOT what it appears. It's not PC crap, it's a commander getting his guys to work together and let their actions speak louder than badges. This is only in the field not garrison.
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I have been going through a comp 2 class and have centered my paper's around this change in the military. It is a sad to see something so great be affected by the infection we call sensitivity of feelings. When did we start caring about the feelings of our members so much that it effects the training we give? It is sad times when we have to sugar coat everything we tell them. It also seems to be less effective in keeping straight and strict discipline in our ranks. So no I don't think it's right to ask someone not to wear something they earned because there's somebody who didn't earn it and they feel "sad" it is a ridiculous notion that needs to be squashed. We need to get back to the lines of "grow up butter cup welcome to the military" ....but just some humble opinion from someone who cares to much about the military.
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SGT Leon Riege -
Honestly. Pretty close. Nothing like reducing the efforts of so many to elevate the inexperienced
Just not sure why the leadership would think that's a good idea. The experience is something the new soldiers could up to
Honestly. Pretty close. Nothing like reducing the efforts of so many to elevate the inexperienced
Just not sure why the leadership would think that's a good idea. The experience is something the new soldiers could up to
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I could not pick more then one. But we should be proud of our service, and younger Soldiers need to know who they can go to when combat questions arise.
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Like you said. A lot of Soldiers have just gotten into the Army. There day will come. Shouldn't have been an issue with the Command!
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No, you earned it wear it, this is the US Military not some feel good community organizing waste of space. Excel at the position you have if you don't like it cross train if your still dissatisfied get out, it is not everyone else responsibility to make you feel good, it is your responsibility to follow orders and perform to the best of your ability.
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Hopefully this is just a BS story. The Marines don't were combat patches, but we do have the ribbon we wear on service and dress uniforms. I am sad to say I served many years and deployed several times and never received a combat action ribbon. It sucked seeing all these Marines jr to me with stars on their ribbons. They should be able to wear it with pride.
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