Should we stop calling them "M" terrorists?

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 10:40:59 -0500

Howard Dean does. It has some merits, but lacks in other areas in my opinion. What are your thoughts?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/08/howard-dean-paris-attackers-not-muslim-terrorists/

Howard Dean: Paris attackers not ‘Muslim terrorists’

Former Democratic Party head Howard Dean objected to calling the shooters in the Paris attack Muslim terrorists, though the attackers were witnessed shouting Allahu akbar as they fired.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 8 at 2015 10:38 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 10:38:33 -0500

Gutless wimp is crazy howard DEAN.

Response by TSgt Kevin Buccola made Jan 8 at 2015 10:46 AM

TSgt Kevin Buccola — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 10:46:35 -0500

They are TERRORISTS period.

Response by 1SG Mike Case made Jan 8 at 2015 10:54 AM

1SG Mike Case — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 10:54:13 -0500

Who gives a crap what you call them! You can call Muslim terrorists, French terrorists, or gun-toting terrorists. I give exactly 2/5 of a crap what label people want to put on them, I just want dead to be attached to whatever moniker is given.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 8 at 2015 11:00 AM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:00:16 -0500

Are they terrorizing for the sake of Islam? If so, they should be identified accordingly. The attack on Charlie Hebdo was retribution for "disrespecting" Muhammad. Ergo, Muslim terrorism.

Response by SSG Tim Everett made Jan 8 at 2015 11:32 AM

SSG Tim Everett — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:32:26 -0500

Saw Fox News URL, figured it would be critical of a Democrat.

We don't say "Christian terrorists" or "Jewish terrorists", even when their actions are deliberately in defense of their faith. So I don't see a particular reason to say "Muslim terrorists".

To me, they're terrorists, you can call them what you like but they are terrorists and therefore they are targets. End of story.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2015 6:15 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 06:15:15 -0400

Call them what they are. By accepting and using Political Correctness, you are declaring yourself an Intellectual Slave because you are accepting what "The Massa" says.

Political Correctness = Intellectual Slavery

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 23 at 2015 7:43 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:43:30 -0400

By providing an additional, unneeded caveat you are diluting the issue.

We don't need to call them Muslim Terrorists, when the word Terrorist is sufficient.

To draw a parallel, we don't need to call ourselves "X Era Veteran," when "Veteran" is sufficient.

Adding a caveat makes it sound like one is "more" or "different" than another. It isn't.

When you become a Terrorist, you make an irrevocable decision. Your religion may have been a contributing factor to said decision, but it's the decision and your actions that matter, not your beliefs.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Mar 23 at 2015 10:10 AM

PO3 Steven Sherrill — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:10:09 -0400

To the question, I think that the problem with adding Muslim before terrorists is that there are people who believe that the two terms are interchangeable. Thusly the analogy becomes All Muslims are terrorists. This is definitely not the case. It leads to discrimination, animosity, hate-mongering, and eventually it leads more people to taking on extremist views.

Before coming to my current job, I worked in security at a private gated community. On my shift we had a Jewish man, a Muslim man, a couple of Baptists, and a Heathen. We all worked together, and religion never was an issue. When it was time for Muslim prayer, the office would be secured for that use. My second roving patrol would stop at the gate if they got behind, and the work flow was not harmed. This man was not a terrorist, he was just an immigrant to the United States that wanted the opportunities that we enjoy as Americans.

If we want to combat Islamic extremism, it needs to start with our own mind set. Terrorists are terrorists, it does not matter what their faith. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. Nobody cared what his faith was, they cared that he used a truck full of fertilizer to kill innocent people because of his views. He was executed for this, and rightfully so. Ted Kaczynski was another example of a terrorist that nobody cared about his religion. So why in the case of religious extremists, do we suddenly care about their faith?

Response by MSgt Allan Vrboncic made Mar 23 at 2015 10:39 AM

MSgt Allan Vrboncic — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:39:21 -0400

They are Muslim Terrorists. They target Jews and Christians in the name of Allah. Obama is quick to refer to the Crusades as Christian Terrorists, but he will not do the same for Terrorists killing in the name of their Muslim religion. I guess Obama does not want to call out his Muslim brothers for what they really are.

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Mar 23 at 2015 11:14 AM

Maj Chris Nelson — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:14:56 -0400

I liken these Terrorists to Westburo Baptist Church and their hate filled speech/activities. Overall, the Terrorists that proclaim to be acting in the name of Islam as is the Westburo Baptist Church is doing so for Christianity. Do either of the groups truly represent the religious affiliation that they proclaim? Not to the majority....however, it takes very few bad apples to spoil a whole barrel. Since THEY are so adamant to call themselves Muslim, then I have NO problems calling them Muslim Terrorists, just as I have no problems in saying that the nutjobs from Westburo Baptist Church are Hate Mongers (they are not at the same level of terror as others...but they do try to intimidate, so still qualify in my opinion as a hate group). Call them what they are. I also feel that they should be treated like a rodent or cockroach infestation....and eradicated.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2015 11:32 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:32:38 -0400

Why not? Others would not likely shy away from calling a terrorist who claims to be Christian a "Christian Terrorist".