Should women be eligible for the next military draft?

2016-02-03T09:14:08-05:00

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/02/02/army-and-marine-corps-chiefs-its-time-for-women-to-register-for-the-draft/

Army and Marine Corps chiefs: It’s time for women to register for the draft

Selective Service laws have never required women to subject themselves to the draft.

Response by SSG Audwin Scott made Feb 3 at 2016 9:15 AM

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I suppose if they are going to allow them into combat arms positions yes, but of course I am bias because I have two daughters so personally no.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Feb 3 at 2016 9:17 AM

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Why Not. If you want Equal Rights, You should have equal responsibilities. Plenty of other countries do it and I have plenty of Admiration for their Female Members in Uniform.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Feb 3 at 2016 9:26 AM

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I'm just curious to see how those who pushed for women in combat MOSs will react.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Feb 3 at 2016 9:26 AM

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This question has gotten a lot of light here on RallyPoint already. Personally, I feel the draft is a relic of times gone by. Yes, we still require 18 year old males to register with the Selective Service, personally I got my card the day before I shipped out to basic or something like that. America has had an all volunteer force for the better part of 40 plus years or so. Do I feel that females should be required to sign up for the Selective Service, yes. Will it ever be used again? Probably not.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Feb 3 at 2016 9:52 AM

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Eligible? I do not think it is a question of being eligible but required? I think it is trying to bring the bad with the 'good'.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Feb 3 at 2016 9:56 AM

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If we're going to use the outdated system of Conscription, everyone should sign up for it. Honestly, I am anti-Conscription and think we should just get rid of it completely because:

1) we're an all volunteer force
2) It's frankly anti-liberty
3) Any war that would require us to Draft again is going to result in nuclear weapons.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Feb 3 at 2016 9:58 AM

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If they are going to be allowed to serve in combat arms, then YES. The whole purpose of the draft is to bring in a large amount of combat troops in a quick fashion. Females now fall under the definition of "combat troops"....

Response by SSgt Jamie Ritter LeBlanc made Feb 3 at 2016 10:02 AM

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Definitely!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 10:06 AM

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Yes congress and everyone's brother is pushing them to have equal chances at every job in every military branch so yes draft away

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Feb 3 at 2016 10:31 AM

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If they what equality across the board HELL YES!

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 10:40 AM

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I don't see why not. It hasn't been used in quite some time and will more than likely never be used again.

Response by CSM David Heidke made Feb 3 at 2016 10:44 AM

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If you want equality... This is part of it. Sign here.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 11:24 AM

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Absolutely. The door has been opened. Equality for all.

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Feb 3 at 2016 11:27 AM

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Hell, yes. Why is this even being debated?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 11:32 AM

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I'm fascinated by how many people think the answer is to make everyone register versus getting rid of it completely. There hasn't been a draft since 1973. I do not want to serve in a military where someone was drafted and the only reason they are there is because they were too poor to get out of it.

A lot of these responses are just disrespectful towards women who do choose to serve and will choose to serve. HELLO - women currently serve and are serving in greater numbers than they ever have. If the sh** hits the fan then guess what? Not only will there be men rushing to VOLUNTEER but there will also be women. So, stop acting like women don't serve or don't want to serve.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Feb 3 at 2016 11:52 AM

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Of course! It's rather sexist to suggest otherwise. Equal means equal after all..

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 11:53 AM

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Since we are equal now :)

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 12:03 PM

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Absolutely. Equality means everyone has the same advantages and disadvantages. Privilege is expecting the advantages without the disadvantages. If women want to serve in combat arms they need to accept the cost of their integration.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Feb 3 at 2016 12:57 PM

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I am not advocating that all women be required to register for the draft when they turn 18. In the event of a general mobilization which was last seen in WWII then I think women should be required to register for the draft only at that point.
Caveat: I turned in my draft card when I enlisted at age 18 in November 1974.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 1:01 PM

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You want the same rights as men, you get the same responsibilities. If it doesn't occur, then some man will have rights for a sexual discrimination lawsuit. Title IX is also getting contested for reverse sexual discrimination now...

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Feb 3 at 2016 1:24 PM

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Why would they not be required to register for the draft?

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 3 at 2016 1:29 PM

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I voted yes..
I see many response with yes or no and a BUT we will never need the draft again, or if we due it will be Nuke or we are doomed anyway.
If you only look at external threats perhaps that is true... BUT what IF (and that's all we are doing here)
WHAT IF, an external threat attacked 6 major city's, killing a million or so, injuring many more.. and Intel community was very sure the threat was likely to attack another 10 city's, and the US needed "troops " on every corner for the next few years while we sent a large force to deal with the threat on their home ground.
And "You cant use Federal troops on US soil" is not a valid as a quash to this line or thinking as, we have used them before, and can again if that is what the maker of the rules deems needed.
SO NOW the Draft is vital to access, gather, organize the troops needed in short order.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Feb 3 at 2016 1:31 PM

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The problem, as I see it, has nothing to do with the need today for the Selective Service program. It It is if an all out war comes into being, (like Pearl Harbor) . We could not get enough volunteers just as it has been in the 70s and before in a short time period. Yes, take your chances, just like many of us did back then and either sign up or be on the waiting list in case there is a desperate need, quickly. Now, what do I think this is all about? The branch leaders that have to implement all that is coming their way, in times of multiple deployments and other aspects of women in combat (yes, I know they are there now, but seldom in a hands on real take it to them battle). These leaders are fighting for our countries ability to defend the homeland and our allies, as treaty requirements exist. Wondering how long true leaders like this that buck the system will last.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 1:36 PM

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My belief is that if you want equal opportunity, then equal treatment and responsibility should follow. Despite this, if I remember correctly, the draft hasn't been used since the 1970's. It also comes to the point that we last needed the draft for a major conflict and that was back then. Nowadays, we have plenty of people with pride for their country and are maintaining a largely volunteer force. Do we necessarily need the draft? No, but if we are going to open all opportunities to both genders, we should have equal responsibility as well.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 1:59 PM

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No-but there's aren't enough down-votes on RP for everyone to respond if I stated why. Fortunately, I think any draft, whether it includes women or not, is an unlikely scenario...and a very, very unwise choice should it be considered in the future.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Feb 3 at 2016 2:33 PM

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Either have both sign up for it, or neither. I think there are enough interested members that are already serving.

Response by PO3 Jonathan Cooper made Feb 3 at 2016 2:55 PM

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I don't see a draft happening anytime soon, but yes. I'm in favor for it.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Feb 3 at 2016 2:58 PM

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We should be EO about the draft.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Feb 3 at 2016 3:58 PM

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Equality across the board includes this as well!

Response by SPC George Rudenko made Feb 3 at 2016 5:02 PM

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If Israel, Germany, Netherlands have a similar requirement, why not US?

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 7:39 PM

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Yes. That is all.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2016 8:27 PM

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Yes. If you want equal then lets make things equal.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Feb 3 at 2016 11:01 PM

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HELL YES! In fact, if Affirmative Action is still in place in the military, they should BE CALLED UP FIRST. Want to level a playing field...level that thing right....let them have the maximum opportunity to bleed on an equal footing. They have been asking for this for years...Sometimes the old saying Be Careful wat you wis for applies.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Feb 4 at 2016 6:34 AM

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They feel that they are equal to men, so let take a crack at some of the jobs that are stressful , and see how they take it.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Feb 4 at 2016 2:58 PM

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Women are already volunteering for the military in a variety of duties so they are not afraid to serve, and I am pretty sure that most women would go if drafted.
A draft, hopefully it will never be needed, is no guarantee that everyone will be drafted or if drafted accepted or be granted a waiver of some sort. President Bill Clinton avoided Vietnam because of college waivers, Dr. Ben Carson stayed in college, Donald Trump never served because of waivers, Bruce Springsteen was drafted but rejected on medical grounds and President George Bush served in the Texas Air National Guard if I recall correctly and never went to Vietnam.
The draft doesn't mean that everyone will be called upon to serve and there are going to be many waivers granted and many potential draftees rejected for a variety of reasons if there is ever a draft again and women would be no exception.
Selective Service Registration should be required for every male or female at the age of 18 unless they are physically or mentally handicapped to prevent proper military service.

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Feb 5 at 2016 2:18 PM

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I voted NO, but I would have also voted NO if the question had asked the same question about men. The draft clearly fits the definition of slavery/servitude, an institution I thought we'd done away 150+ years ago. Our volunteer force is the finest, best trained, and most capable military on the globe. If we need good people to fight a war, then, instead of turning a generation of 18-24 year olds into slaves, we should encourage enlistment and commission through higher pay and benefits, and by ensuring our cause is just, and warrants the military action in the first place. My opinion, respectfully stated.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Feb 6 at 2016 1:19 AM

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Yes... fair is fair... 100%.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2016 8:24 AM

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Why not end the draft registration for everyone? We're an all volunteer military. We volunteered which means that we'll go where we're told and do what we're told to do. That's what we signed up for. The rest of the folks out there didn't choose that life. That choice needs to be respected. As I see it, forcing people to fight for a cause they don't agree with is wrong and possibly dangerous. Perhaps, as a country we should be a bit more discerning about the conflicts we engage in and the costs associated with it. What do you suppose would happen to morale and unit cohesion if we flooded our rank and file with thousands of people who didn't want to be there in the first place or completely disagreed with the reason for the conflict they were forced to engage in? It hasn't worked out to our benefit historically.

Response by PO1 Tracy Dreyer made Feb 9 at 2016 5:29 AM

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Hell yes! They want equal opportunity give it to them!

Response by PO1 Bill Adams made Feb 9 at 2016 10:08 AM

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We are either equal, or we are not. If one sex is required to register and another is not, that ain't equal.

Response by Sgt Frank Rinchich made Feb 9 at 2016 10:43 AM

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You know and I know that 75% of women will not pass the boot camp training. It’s a waste of money time and equipment, if there was a draft for women it should be for the duties that woman can 100% qualify for, then yes a draft should be for women. There are a thousand jobs women can do In case of war besides combat, if it was not for the women of this country; I doubt we would have won the Second World War. They kept the men supplied with equipment and delivered them. Which I think more recognition should be given them today. Besides a Rosie riveter. There should be a national day devoted to the women that sacrificed their all for the cause. But an equal draft means rigors of boot camp and combat training. And say what you wish most will not pass. It behooves me that people in high office can't understand that men and women are built different and are built for different reasons. If you are a god fearing person or an atheist does not change that fact.

Response by MAJ Michel Dinesman made Feb 9 at 2016 11:21 AM

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Its good for everyone...Pandora's Box is now open.

Response by CMSgt Scott Haskins made Feb 9 at 2016 11:34 AM

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Male students who fail to register with Selective Service before turning age 26 are ineligible for Federal student loan and grant programs, including Pell Grants, Federal Work Study, and Stafford Loans. Several states have also made Selective Service registration a prerequisite for state financial aid and for matriculation at public colleges and universities. No such restriction on females. I think it is time to level the playing field when it comes to this.

Response by SFC Patricia Zechel made Feb 9 at 2016 11:38 AM

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I believe if you are a born US citizen, its the duty that both genders should at least spend at least two years of service to this country.

Response by Sgt Jude Eden made Feb 9 at 2016 12:02 PM

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Absolutely not because combat is not an equal opportunity prospect for women, so selective service requirement is inappropriate. Everyone's glossing over that and swallowing whole the lie that women and military men are interchangeable for combat roles. I'm one of a few women who've been arguing against this at length since the repeal announcement in 2013.
The title of the below article isn't accurate, the piece is about the draft prospect, but that was the editor's decision. http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/05/former-female-marine-women-really-dont-want-to-be-in-combat-roles/
Another great piece on this subject from 20 year retired female Marine is here: http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/02/female-gunnery-sergeant-has-hardcore-response-to-rubiochristiebush-on-women-in-combat/

Female Marine Iraq Veteran: Women Really Don’t Want To Be In Combat Roles

Civilian leaders in the military have heralded the decision open all ground combat roles to women as a sign of progress, but some females who have actually served in the military are none too pleased

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 1:32 PM

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It doesn't matter because there won't be another draft.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 1:59 PM

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So many people willingly join now I doubt there will be a need for a draft again but as part of equality yes sign below and lets go.

Response by MAJ Robert Anderson made Feb 9 at 2016 3:32 PM

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If women can serve in any military position then they are not different than men and should have to register for the draft. I firmly believe that every citizen of this nation should spend amount of time during early adulthood in service to the nation. This service can military or any number of alternative civilian services like: Peace Corps, Vista, Teacher Corps, Civilian Conservation Corps or possibly a Health Services Corps. I believe that our nation should have MANDATORY Universal National Service where ALL citizens between 18 and 27 must provide 18 to 36 months of service (length of service dependent on type of service (Military being the shortest). There would be NO excusals from service, persons with handicaps would be accommodated with some time of service. Persons without a minimum level of literacy would have to attend non-creditable time in literacy training before being their service. Persons with non-violent criminal records would not be excused.
My wife is an immigrant and a Veteran and we both believe in Universal National Service.

Response by PO1 Kenneth Cardwell made Feb 9 at 2016 7:00 PM

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Hell NO! Nothing in the world would I allow my daughter to be drafted! Jail or death would be the only thing that would allow my daughter to be drafted! There are enough males. This PC crap needs to stop!

Response by SGT David D. made Feb 9 at 2016 8:37 PM

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Absolutely, it's called equality, and that means equal responsibility as a citizen.
From the beginning of time male citizens have been expected to muster in times of need.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 6:10 AM

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No female that is currently serving would have any reason to say no to this. Also, if any of you know anything about the draft then you know the majority of draftees were for combat support. Women should have had to sign up for the draft as soon as we were allowed in the regular Army. The answer to this question is obvious.

Response by LTC Ed Ross made Feb 10 at 2016 9:00 AM

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Equality for woman means equality of opportunity and equality of burden. We may never see the draft again in any of our lifetimes, but sooner or later we will if history is any guide.

Response by MAJ Pete Joplin made Feb 10 at 2016 9:36 AM

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I'll go you one further. You ask, should they be "eligible," and I say they should be "required!" If it comes to a draft, 50% of the population are women, so 50% of the draftees should be women.
As for enlistments and service in the Combat Arms, the same principal should apply. If women (and our Generals and our POS) insist on opening up the Combat Arms to women, it has to be more than just opening them up to those who want it. I'm not sure how many enlistees end up in the Infantry, "for the good of the service," but if 23% of all enlistees are women, then there damn well better be 23% of those who end up in the Infantry "for the good of the service."

Response by CPO Leon Henderson made Feb 10 at 2016 11:34 AM

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If women are eligible for all rates, and MOS's then absolutely.

Response by SPC Christopher Morehouse made Feb 10 at 2016 11:46 AM

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If you are opening up all positions to woman, than there is no reason or justification for not having everyone registered for the draft. None.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 11:57 AM

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Hell yes. I've been beaten over the head by feminists that women can do everything that men can do. TIme to put up or shut up, ladies.

Response by MSgt Darren VanDerwilt made Feb 10 at 2016 1:31 PM

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Instead of requiring women to register, get rid of the Selective Service System. As has been pointed out in other threads, the Federal government already has information on every person from childbirth. Further, the requirement for males only to register or be denied government job training, education, and federal employment, is gender biased and unlawful.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Feb 10 at 2016 1:39 PM

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I voted yes. Equality means equality. However I don't believe that there will ever be another draft. In fact I don't believe that most Americans today would fight for their country if we were actually invaded. The main result of a draft would probably be to cause a mass exodus to Canada. Even during WWII there were large numbers of draft dodgers and deserters and the so-called "Greatest Generation" is long gone. Cowardice, laziness and a sense of entitlement are the main characteristics of today's generation.

Response by PO1 Scott Cottrell made Feb 10 at 2016 5:07 PM

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Response by TSgt Susan Bernarducci made Feb 10 at 2016 8:32 PM

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Personally I feel through we may not use the draft females should be made to register with the Selective Service at the age of 18. However, my strong personal feeling is that once you have graduated from high school, both males and females they should serve at least two years in the
Armed Forces. Hopefully this would open eyes to what we have in the United States and appreciate
it rather than take it for granted.

Response by SGT James Bretney made Feb 10 at 2016 11:13 PM

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100 years ago it was women and children first on life boats. Now it is women and children first to murder and death. This is disturbing.

Response by SGT James Bretney made Feb 10 at 2016 11:15 PM

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100 years ago, it was women and children first to life on the lifeboats. 100 years later, it is women and children first to murder and death in combat and abortion. This is disturbing and the moral fabric of this nation is getting harder and harder to defend.

Response by SFC Ron Gitzendanner made Feb 11 at 2016 1:22 AM

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Since the Army went to "all Volunteer", we haven't had a reason to use the draft. Actually, based on all my readings, discussions, etc, I believe WWII was the last time we needed a draft. We did have it up to the 1970's, primarily because we kept the system going. However, I can see a reason why it could be needed again sometime in the future, should a situation similar to WWII arise again, for instance. All that being said, I see no reason why a female must "register for the draft", or even be drafted, should the system be instituted in the future. But, if females want to join the service and serve in various career fields, there should be no reason they shouldn't be allowed. Personally tho, I am not really a fan of women going into combat fields. I am not saying they can't do the job, I imagine many of them could run circles around me. Female Fighter Pilots have done a magnificent job. It just doesn't feel right to me, guess I have an "old fashioned" streak in me.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Feb 11 at 2016 10:18 AM

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If women allow in combat, then yes women should get draft.

Response by CPL James Zielinski made Feb 11 at 2016 5:38 PM

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I don't personally believe in the draft. The draft does not provide the same outstanding level of professional military personnel we currently enjoy in the military. That being said, if the military insists on not recognizing that there are in fact anatomical and physiological differences between male and female and feels that opening all combat positions to women then it is disingenuous to not have women register for selective service, and have them enjoy the same legal stipulations such as non-availability of student loans or food stamp eligibility that men currently enjoy. I believe that anyone who can meet the SAME physical standards in the military should have the same options, but we all know that will never be.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2016 4:57 PM

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Interesting development is that some members of Congress are proposing legislation to remove the selective service system altogether. Also, with the technological advancements and moral/ethical dilemmas confronted by the military everyday, there is a discussion that a drafted military wouldn't be able to perform to the requirements of the current standing professional military.

Response by PO1 Todd McMillin made Feb 17 at 2016 7:14 PM

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As others have pointed out; males over 18 must register for Selective Service. However, if anything a lot of folks have been calling for mandatory "state service" of some kind to give future generations some kind of leadership and square away their headspace vs. being burdens on society. Which is ironic since the whole point of ending "wars" is so that future generations can be something other than "citizen-soldiers" to the state. Yet, we see many of our foreign allies (Israeli, the Scandinavian nation-states, etc.) all have compulsory state service; unless they're families are wealthy and influential enough to buy their way out of it, much like Robert Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" (film version not novel). I personally believe that if we did have compulsory/mandatory state service; it would end mass incarceration and the school-to-prison pipeline that exist in our society especially for minorities where it seems that our education system has turned into segregational system to make future prisoners or soldiers; couldn't there be a third or fourth choice instead?

Response by COL Ted Mc made Feb 18 at 2016 3:11 PM

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Why not? Equality is equality.

Besides the military has thousands of positions that simply cannot be moved to the combat zones and it has to fill those positions with someone - just like industry had to fill its positions with someone as soon as the industrial workers started being drafted.

Response by Lt Col Robert Canfield made Feb 25 at 2016 12:11 PM

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I am surprised that a legal challenge based on the 14th Amendment (equal protection clause) has not yet been made. I guess its only a matter of time that an 18 yr old male files suit regarding having to register for selective service. At the same time his 18r old female neighbor is not levied with this burden, yet is now able to pursue a civilian job without the possibility that their civilian career will be interrupted by being drafted into service. We now have a situation described by George Orwell where all are equal, but some are "more equal than others".

Response by MSgt Thomas Welch made Mar 1 at 2016 8:28 PM

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It's not a matter of service or if they are capable. It's a matter of forcing young women into harms way. those women that wish to server should and can if they meet the standards. But a draft is mint to place fighting forces on the battle field. I hope that as a nation we have not lost so much chivalry ,as to hide behind our young women in a conscript military

Response by SGT Stacy Moody made May 12 at 2016 4:15 PM

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We want equality among the ranks, in the world etc....some much more aggressively than others lol. But fact is fact, if the men have to register to the draft why not the women? I think its the next logical step. I am sure there will be protests of we shouldn't be forced to go to war as women etc. But we want equality, well then it should be equality across the board, not pick and choose what type of equality suits certain women....there's plenty of men who don't want to go to war either....THEY aren't given a choice!
Isn't going to happen really anyway, don't ever foresee the need for the draft again, so probably not even an arguable issue. But regardless, women pushed and have been given what they asked for, now get on the draft too, simple as that.
I am waiting for ONE person just ONE to say, you are speaking for all women as if you know! There are women who wont ever join the military let alone want to go to war. To them I say, 1. Bring yourself into this century. 2. There's plenty of men that don't want that either......3. mic drop

Response by Capt Tom Brown made May 14 at 2016 12:32 PM

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As long as there is still a draft in name on the books, everyone should be required to register just to keep everything equal, esp in this day and age. However, as everyone notes the concept has been moot for years and no longer relevant in light of all volunteer force.

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made May 14 at 2016 2:21 PM

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Yes. If men and women are truly considered equal, then there is no reason military aged females can't register for selective service as well.

Yes, the likelihood of reinstating the draft is slim thanks to our all volunteer force. But considering we've raised a couple generations disillusioned by a decade of wartime conflict I also wouldn't be surprised if recruiting numbers go down.

Response by Lt Col Robert Canfield made Jun 17 at 2016 4:03 PM

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As I said earlier: YES, however this also begs the question as to whether or not the fragile "snowflakes" of the millennial generation are up to the task of military service? I would say that the vast majority are not. Therefore, it is imperative that the 'draft pool" be as large as possible to pull in the best qualified folks in the event of a national emergency. America is now on the front line of the War on Terror. A major disaster or attack involving 100s of thousands or millions of casualties is not as unlikely as we once thought. The day may come where these young folks may need to "man-up/woman-up" and "do their bit for king and country".

Response by SGT Stacy Moody made Jun 30 at 2016 4:58 PM

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Pardon me SGT Scott, Karen. I am not usually real negative on here, but please understand your entire spew that was quite hard to understand, had not one sentence in it about the topic of this discussion. It sounds to me like that speech should be in a Victims Room. Furthermore, and I don't like personal crap out there, but I'm going to make an exception today special just for you. I have no clue how long you have been out of the military, nor how long since your insinuated "sexual trauma" in the military. I am PTSD/MST, it took me 23 years to finally admit it to myself, but not once in those 23 years did I call myself a victim, expect special treatment, or play oh whoa is me. I certainly didn't ATTACK people merely giving their opinion on a subject, with my bitterness.
I can say I do disagree with "whether or not the fragile "snowflakes" of the millennial generation are up to the task of military service? I would say that the vast majority are not." The men in the military know damn well, for a female its twice of everything. If it hurts and we complain we are the "snowflakes" COL is referencing. If a man does, it just simply hurts. That is why most women shut up and drive on. We put ourselves there, we knew there was more men than women. You volunteered. You certainly did NOT volunteer for what may or may not have happened to you, but it has ZERO to do with whether or not women should be required to be in the draft.
YES, we should. Period. Look ladies, we asked for equality, we got it.....I never was questioned on my capabilities of taking out enemy when needed, I thankfully had the support of my team. I'm sorry if you did not. When I was in, you were either gay or a slut. You couldn't be anything else. Not even just a damn good soldier.
Fact of the matter is, we asked for equality, its been given. That does not mean we now get to pick and choose what "kind" of equality is given. It simply doesn't work that way.
I know there's people out there saying "My daughter shouldn't be drafted to go to war", well guess what parents, then be angry with the women yelling for equality in the military and everywhere else, because now we have it. There is also many parents of sons that say "my son shouldn't be drafted to go to war", the difference before today is that those sons had no choice if it came to a draft......guess what.....now your daughters don't either.....and we asked for it. Time to deal and drive on. HOOAHHH!

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Aug 5 at 2021 10:43 PM

2021-08-05T22:43:20-04:00

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