Signalliers, who out there thinks that the Army has specialized the signal branch to much?

WO1(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:09:05 -0400

Just wanted to see if anyone else had my point of view with this. There are a ton of signal MOS' but when you get to your unit most of us end up being cross trained on all of our equipment anyway. I think there should only be 3 Signal MOS'. Keep 25B for automations and help desk duties, a straight transmissions MOS and a LAN/WAN MOS. This would make the slotting and promotions for Signalliers more efficient.

Response by SFC Cornelius Walsh made Sep 17 at 2014 6:59 PM

SFC Cornelius Walsh — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:59:04 -0400

This is actually something that has been in the works for a while now, and for good reason. Far too often, I've heard Signaleers say "that's not my MOS" -- but communicators from each specialty should really be trying as best they can to learn every piece of equipment on their team. Great question.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 7:52 AM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:52:59 -0500

True but look at whats happening now do to "CYBER". We have 35Q,25B,25D and 17series in the works.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 9:24 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:24:13 -0500

I am also concerned about this - technology moving so fast that the signal MOS structure simply cannot keep up.

We need more universal, adaptive technology professionals in the Army. We've all met them. That 25U that has a CCNA, their own home lab, AND a ham radio system, because they're just that into it.

How do we get more of those people, who are more 25 than U/B/Q? That, I don't have an answer for...

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2015 10:53 AM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:53:21 -0500

Coming from a Navy perspective that works with 25L's, I think you guys are way to specialized. In the Navy, the Signal Brigade would Be classified as either an Electronics Technician (25L,N,P,Q,R,S,U,W) or an Information Systems Technician(25B,C,N,R,S,W). I know a lot of you are saying wait you have some in both. We divide between operator (IT) and technician (ET). Talking as an Electronics Tech, you are expected to know ALL equipment at your command and the "That's not my MOS" does not fly. We do however have Naval Enlisted Classifications that is like a specialty on a specific type of gear but you still need to work with equipment that you do not have the NEC for. The L's I work with think that the navy and Air Force have it better since we do not specializes so far down.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2015 11:28 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 11:28:14 -0500

I agree that we need to streamline the Signal Corps MOS structure. This has already happened somewhat with the warrants --> 254A was merged with 251A to produce 255A because it made little sense for separate techs to provide O&M on BCCS servers and/or Mission Command (ABCS) systems. Ironically, we are going the other way for Signal Officers as there will now be 25A's and 25G's. I don't disagree with providing personnel receiving additional ASI's and training depending on their follow on assignment(s), but over specialization decreases personnel flexibility during a time in our history in which the threats to national security seem to be on the rise while we are simultaneously reducing the size of our force.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2019 9:15 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 May 2019 09:15:57 -0400

With the way technology is growing signal sections are too thin.
At the BN level my 25Us need to learn the B/Q world and vice versa just to cover down and not drop missions. Meanwhile I dont have enough experienced NCOs in the ranks to train and mentor new Soldiers in their field.
Personally I think you need expand the UMR at certain levels so we can meet all the mission requirements and not have to worry about brand new Soldiers from one MOS getting crash courses on a different MOS and sent out to "make it happen." We are almost at the point where we are wasiting Army time and money not capitalizing and developing Soldiers in their specialties after months of training.

Sometimes swiss army knife Soldiers aren't the best answer.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made May 16 at 2019 9:36 AM

CW4 Craig Urban — Thu, 16 May 2019 09:36:17 -0400

Signal corp is mi. Snowden is a hero.