Posted on Feb 17, 2017
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Here's the background. You are an experienced Soldier. You walk in to the commissary to see a young 2LT shopping with a headset on. You professionally and politely get the 2LT’s attention and address the deficiency. They blatantly are rude, dismiss your comment, and tell you that those rules do not apply to him as an officer. Whether you are an Officer or Enlisted, how do you react?
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SPC Rick LaBonte
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I was a 63H cross trained 63W(tank mechanic cross trained for wheeled vehicles) wich meant I was a detachment from a support battalion to a line unit. One tried to pull me and two others off of our job while we were elbow deep in truck repairs for some BS detail. I watched four E5’s and my E6 section chief, their E8 shop NCO, both the CW3 from the line unit and the CW3 from my support BN jump his shit! I guess he whined to the battalion commander afterwards. Within a week he was reassigned to another unit.
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SSG Brian Edwards
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I was a damn good soldier but I never felt the need to be a uniform corrector while I was i was in the army. In the eleven years I served that is one of the dumbest things I seen happen while being at the commissary or px is when some body wants to be the uniform police. It's fine if it's something major I would expect it but when I seen somSGM chewing on some newbie be it a lot. Or private out in public the only fool is them just my opinion but I can now say it I'm not in no more
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SPC Cbrn Nco
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As a SPC I would just smile, say “Roger that sir”, wall out of the commissary and call my CO who loves railing 2LTs who have a since of entitlement. My rank does not allow me to be rude nor does his rank allow him to exude rudeness to me. “If the correction doesn’t work then your job as a junior enlisted soldier has been achieved, you spotted a deficiency, tried to make a correction and were rudely ignored, let someone with more rank handle it.” MY BDE 1SG
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SPC Ryan Vanlaanengregory
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Buy your stuff and move on with your life, be more concerned with your LT who's probably jacked up your leave form and lost all your training certificates.
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SPC Mara Manzer (Spurgin)
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I would then remind him that military customs and courtesies apply to everyone who wears the uniform and then carry on.
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SP5 Gary Smith
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When I was a trooper, we avoided talking to officers at all costs except in the line of duty. What kind of army are you morons running?
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SPC Greg Campbell
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PACESETTERS SIR! oh Lt your rank is upside down.
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Cpl Ronald Hart
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being a very short timer at camp horno, I WAS CHECKING OUT and driving myself around Pendleton
to do this chore. 2nd Lt. told me to stop driving my car..I immediatly went to the co. office and
REQUESTED MASS--NEEDLESS TO SAY--I started driving again.............
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SFC Bosun Frusher
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When dealing with 2nd lts as described in this thread I found the best way to deal with it was to “allow” them to go about their merry way knowing that sooner or later they be back asking for help. Sfc ret
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SPC Amanda Morse
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Keep your military bearing, take note of the 2nd Lts name and unit patch. Report it to his chain of command. Or go to your chain of command.
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CSM Tee Oden
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As a young E4 Specialist, I had this experience which could have gotten out of hand. I was called to assist the communications section with a problem. Upon my arrival, I was briefed by the SFC of the situation. Even though I held a different MOS, I built radio systems as a hobby. After troubleshooting the tank, I discovered ezposed wires were shorting out the entire system. At that point, 5 radios had burnt. I asked, why 5 radios were allowed to burn before asking for help? The SFC advised the new Plt Leader gave the directive. I removed the tank from service and began taking the turret apart. In the middle of the repair, I overheard yelling and cursing outside. The 2LT was yelling at the EMs to put this f**king tank back on line. I respectfully introduced myself to the 2LT and advices him the CDR requested this vehicle be fixed ASAP so I directed the tank be offline until the repairs can be made. At this time,, the 2LT became verbally abusive towards me. I advised the EM to leave the area as I seen this issue is escalating. At the time, military bearing began to go out the window and I adviced him that I will not stand here and argue with you. Until you wear Signal Flags, don't tell me anything about the electrical systems of the tank! As this was said, the Brigade SIGO walks over to stop the confrontation. After listening to the situation, the SIGO corrected me regarding how I handled the situation and advised me if this should occur again, to excuse myself and inform the SIGO or Commander. The SIGO then turned to the 2LT and schooled him on military bearing and professionalism. After the repairs, the CDR completed a statement of charges for the 2LT to pay for 4 524 radios he allowed to burn knowing their were major issues. $$$ Karma is a mother! Respect is everything! Keep your cool and report any unprofessionalism using your chain of command.
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Cpl John DeConti
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Even as a corporal I have corrected a 2nd LT (privately, calmly and politely)... It may just be a head set but the troops are supposed to be led by example. I won't mention her name but I found her with hands in her pockets in Okinawa at a motor pool with some other officers. When she walked off from the rest of them I put my hands in my pockets and spoke to her about it.. She got it... Never happened again. Not only that she was appreciative of the concern... Because at the end of the day its corporals fault when my platoon looks like a shit sandwich.
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CSM Lynn Chrisman
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As a retired CSM I have handled this by being respectful and reminding the 2LT who I report to
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SGT Avionic Mechanic
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Cpl Corey Hallowell
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Been there done that. Told my cwo3 and he told him basically that he's not gonna tell me how to do my job and that, as a Pfc, I could basically tell him to fuck off if I wanted
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SSgt Daniel d'Errico
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I remind this 2d Lt. that the rules apply to all ranks, both enlisted and officer. Then if this young man is in uniform, I write down his name and ask which unit he is in. Then report to my unit first sgt about this officer, give him/her the information I collected.
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SPC Daniel Rankin
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My answer would always be the same, if the 2nd LT is in uniform that head set is definitely out of uniform and I would get his name unit and name of his commanding officer. And then report him for his uncoming behavior as an officer.
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SrA Matthew E. O'Neil
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DONT CALL ME SIR I WORK FOR A LIVING
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SSG John Morgan
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By demonstrating tactical and technical proficientcy I would get thier attention that I am the real deal and they usually followed suit,not bad people just need a little guidance,thats all.
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SGT Michael Evans
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Same thing I USED to tell them. I had more time in the damn latrine than THEY had in SERVICE and NO, I will NOT DIE because of their STUPIDITY.
Simply start with this line " SIR, No disrespect to your RANK AS AN OFFICER but SCREW YOU as a PERSON and YOUR IGNORANCE "
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