Since the Branches are Down sizing why won't each branch grant a certain amount of Voluntary Seperations instead of QMP and QSP? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-88839"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fsince-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Since+the+Branches+are+Down+sizing+why+won%27t+each+branch+grant+a+certain+amount+of+Voluntary+Seperations+instead+of+QMP+and+QSP%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fsince-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ASince the Branches are Down sizing why won&#39;t each branch grant a certain amount of Voluntary Seperations instead of QMP and QSP?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="565e89a701161a953da8ccc824027c07" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/088/839/for_gallery_v2/5bc4860b.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/088/839/large_v3/5bc4860b.jpg" alt="5bc4860b" /></a></div></div>This could be a postitive tool for those who want to go to College, take care of their family, seek Corporate employment, instead of everyone being on a chopping block and going through a demoralizing Board Tue, 10 May 2016 12:31:54 -0400 Since the Branches are Down sizing why won't each branch grant a certain amount of Voluntary Seperations instead of QMP and QSP? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-88839"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fsince-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Since+the+Branches+are+Down+sizing+why+won%27t+each+branch+grant+a+certain+amount+of+Voluntary+Seperations+instead+of+QMP+and+QSP%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fsince-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ASince the Branches are Down sizing why won&#39;t each branch grant a certain amount of Voluntary Seperations instead of QMP and QSP?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="3fc0cd25cd5ab7c2f3a970393f965454" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/088/839/for_gallery_v2/5bc4860b.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/088/839/large_v3/5bc4860b.jpg" alt="5bc4860b" /></a></div></div>This could be a postitive tool for those who want to go to College, take care of their family, seek Corporate employment, instead of everyone being on a chopping block and going through a demoralizing Board SSG Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 10 May 2016 12:31:54 -0400 2016-05-10T12:31:54-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 12:35 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp?n=1516166&urlhash=1516166 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>yeah thats a good question !! SFC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 10 May 2016 12:35:34 -0400 2016-05-10T12:35:34-04:00 Response by SrA Edward Vong made May 10 at 2016 12:37 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp?n=1516175&urlhash=1516175 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />Possibly in the grand scheme of things, the DoD and VA don't want to owe anyone a larger severance pay. SrA Edward Vong Tue, 10 May 2016 12:37:17 -0400 2016-05-10T12:37:17-04:00 Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 12:37 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp?n=1516178&urlhash=1516178 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe not just a voluntary separation, but partner with local businesses that are willing to take on separating service members, give them permanent employment (or contractual employment), and allow them to step back into civie life. MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 10 May 2016 12:37:28 -0400 2016-05-10T12:37:28-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 12:54 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp?n=1516243&urlhash=1516243 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>One option that I have recently taken advantage of is the 180 Early Separation for either employment or education. While this only takes up to 180 days off the contract, it is fairly easy to do. All you need is a 4187 requesting a new ETS date, plus a letter of acceptance from either your future employer or school, and a DA31 for any transitional leave you may be taking. I'm not sure if that would work in tandem with a QMP/QSP though. It is branch and rank immaterial. Soldiers can request UP TO 180 days early separation. It may be worth looking into if someone were notified of QMP/QSP as to whether it would be an option or not. S-1 may be able to answer that question. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 10 May 2016 12:54:54 -0400 2016-05-10T12:54:54-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 1:04 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp?n=1516284&urlhash=1516284 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Because the Military is trying to keep the best and the brightest, and cut loose the dead weight. If you try to solve this problem with voluntary separation, all the dead weight that's just sucking up a paycheck by doing the bare minimum would not get out. The people who would voluntary separate are the people who generally have a plan, have aspirations of greater things and have the drive and motivation to set and reach for their own goals. THOSE are valuable people, and the military does not want to lose them. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 10 May 2016 13:04:33 -0400 2016-05-10T13:04:33-04:00 Response by CPT Joseph K Murdock made May 10 at 2016 2:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp?n=1516650&urlhash=1516650 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They are to mired in quality of SMs. CPT Joseph K Murdock Tue, 10 May 2016 14:21:28 -0400 2016-05-10T14:21:28-04:00 Response by SGT David T. made May 12 at 2016 12:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/since-the-branches-are-down-sizing-why-won-t-each-branch-grant-a-certain-amount-of-voluntary-seperations-instead-of-qmp-and-qsp?n=1522724&urlhash=1522724 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think this should be the second step in a drawdown. The first being chapter out those who are already pending chapter. SGT David T. Thu, 12 May 2016 12:42:54 -0400 2016-05-12T12:42:54-04:00 2016-05-10T12:31:54-04:00