SM is being recommended for an ARCOM which he currently has 5 x ARCOMS. Do you place w/ 5OLC or 1SLC? This came up today as a question.

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:22:43 -0400

Response by SFC A.M. Drake made Mar 17 at 2016 8:24 PM

SFC A.M. Drake — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:24:50 -0400

1SLC I believe

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 8:30 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:30:03 -0400

Once he recieves his 6th Arcom SM is authorized 1SLC. A silver Oak Leaf Cluster is worn instead of five Bronze Oak Leafs.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 8:30 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:30:11 -0400

Does this pertain to the DA form 638?

Response by SSG Leo Bell made Mar 17 at 2016 8:30 PM

SSG Leo Bell — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:30:33 -0400

1SLC

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 8:30 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:30:49 -0400

4 bronze OLC plus the ribbon is 5. A silver OLC is for 6 ARCOMS.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 8:32 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:32:35 -0400

Correct the 6th award will be slc

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 17 at 2016 8:36 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:36:16 -0400

A silver oak leaf (or star in case of Navy/Marines) is worn in lieu of 4 bronze oak leafs.

Keep in mind that you may only wear 4 accoutrements on a ribbon however which can create some "weird" issues however if you have other devices like V's, or higher numbers of awards.

So as an example, you will go:

Ribbon = 1, Ribbon + OLC = 2, Ribbon +2OLC = 3, Ribbon + 4OLC = 5, Ribbon + Silver OLC = 6.

however 2xRibbon with V + 3 = 5 (because you can't wear 5 devices on a single Ribbon). You end up wearing second ribbon.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 8:42 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:42:40 -0400

You upgrade or downgrade...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 8:52 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:52:40 -0400

AR600-8-22 clearly states "OLC"(Oak Leaf Cluster) with what ever numeral in front of it to be placed on the DAForm 638. Nowhere does it state "SLC" (Silver Leaf Cluster).

Response by SSG Daniel Deiler made Mar 17 at 2016 8:52 PM

SSG Daniel Deiler — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:52:54 -0400

1 SLC

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2016 9:33 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:33:23 -0400

Depending on routing I know 43rd ag bn wants it as 5 OLC. Depends on COC

Response by SFC Joseph McCausland made Mar 17 at 2016 9:55 PM

SFC Joseph McCausland — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 21:55:07 -0400

Why not just give the SM a Meritorious Service Medal...

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2016 1:21 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 01:21:59 -0400

There is no such thing as 5OLC unless you are referring to the write up on the DA Form 638. Maximum is four OLC device allowed displayed on a ribbon.

One silver OLC equates to five subsequent awards and the ribbon makes it six awards. Hope this helps.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Mar 18 at 2016 8:47 AM

SGM Steve Wettstein — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 08:47:20 -0400

You add a silver leaf cluster which represents a sixth award.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2016 10:15 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 10:15:56 -0400

On the DA Form 638 it would be ARCOM, 5 OLC. OLC doesn't represent bronze or silver, just a Oak Leaf Cluster. You do not specify on the form a Silver OLC or Bronze OLC only the number of total OLC. The award itself would get the Silver OLC. If the SM gets a seventh ARCOM you wouldn't write 1 SOLC AND 1 BOLC. It would just be 6 OLC. and they would wear one silver and one bronze. It gets tricky when you get to 10.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2016 11:34 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:34:00 -0400

One Silver OLC counts as five awards and the ribbon for one more or six in all.
There was confusion on this?

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2016 11:38 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:38:42 -0400

It will be a bronze OLC (4).

Response by SGT Javier Mendoza made Mar 18 at 2016 1:00 PM

SGT Javier Mendoza — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:00:47 -0400

He can get 10 ARCOMS and he will not be recommended for an MSM. Only SFC get those regardless of doing anything special or not. That's what I saw when I was in.

Response by SPC Tim McKenzie made Mar 18 at 2016 3:04 PM

SPC Tim McKenzie — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:04:31 -0400

101st has a blatantly discriminatory awards policy. Why not award what is earned? This goes back to the '80s when I was there.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2016 4:46 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:46:02 -0400

I met a guy once that had 4 arcoms and his commander had 3 bronze stars and 3 silver stars. Explain that to me.

Response by 1SG Jack Crutcher made Mar 19 at 2016 11:36 AM

1SG Jack Crutcher — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 11:36:26 -0400

Hopefully he will get promoted soon, with all those awards he must be doing something right.

Response by CW2 Fred Baker made Mar 22 at 2016 12:28 AM

CW2 Fred Baker — Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:28:47 -0400

Six awards is a single silver oak leaf on the medal or ribbon.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2016 7:11 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Mar 2016 07:11:36 -0400

It is the ribbon with a Silver cluster added to it.

Response by CW4 Angel C. made Mar 22 at 2016 10:46 AM

CW4 Angel C. — Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:46:53 -0400

5 awards is 4 bronze OLC plus the ribbon, 6 awards is a silver, 7 awards is one silver and one bronze, and so on

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Mar 28 at 2016 1:39 AM

CSM Charles Hayden — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 01:39:25 -0400

SFC Private RallyPoint Member I am in disbelief! The Army system now gives awards rather than promotion and responsibility? Something is wrong in the cited scenario!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 11:08 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 23:08:50 -0400

SGM of the Army, Dan Dailey, has multiple AAMs and is required to wear multiple ribbons.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2016 1:17 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Apr 2016 01:17:46 -0400

If approved he put 1 solc on the ribbion

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2016 12:17 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 00:17:08 -0400

My question is "why is an E-7 asking how the regulations are supposed to be worn on the ASU uniform?." This should have been basic knowledge growing through the ranks. At least give a challenging question like how is 10 awards supposed to be worn on a ribbon. (BTW it's 1 silver oak leader cluster, 3 bronze oak leaf clusters and another ribbon placed on the rack.)

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 7 at 2016 7:13 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 19:13:26 -0400

To answer your question the sm will wear an 1 silver leaf cluster. There is no such thing as a 5 oak leaf clusters.

Response by SFC Joseph McCausland made Jul 8 at 2016 7:10 PM

SFC Joseph McCausland — Fri, 08 Jul 2016 19:10:21 -0400

Why not an MSM.....

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2017 8:19 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:19:43 -0500

Okay here is a question for everyone. I couldn’t get a strait answer from anyone while I was in. I had 10 ARCOMs, one of them being with a V device. How should it be worn for a DA photo?

Response by SSG Randy Talbot made Nov 10 at 2017 8:40 PM

SSG Randy Talbot — Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:40:00 -0500

Silver oak leaf cluster. The same thing happened to me. Ribbon is one, 4 oak leaf clusters make five, another award would be one silver olc.

Response by SSG Shawn Ireland made Nov 10 at 2017 9:59 PM

SSG Shawn Ireland — Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:59:45 -0500

According to what I remember once he has maxed the one that he is wearing he can by reg. Add a second ribbon or medal depending on which he is wearing. This is the way that they work around this type situation. It’s not very common but is the way to properly display the total awards that you have been awarded. It is without a doubt a interesting question. I also am curious as to how a soldier that at Best may have ten years under his belt, how and what has this soldier come to receive so many ARCOMS? I spent eight years and was Medically Discharged Honorably and I only had one AAM, and one ARCOM. it seems that Medals are being issued for almost anything. Not to downplay nor smear this soldier service, but it is very interesting that he has 5 ARCOMS and is being awarded a sixth!

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made May 4 at 2018 12:04 AM

MSG John Duchesneau — Fri, 04 May 2018 00:04:28 -0400

Its a silver oak leaf cluster.