Posted on Jun 14, 2016
Some blame guns, some blame Islam. Why is there not more discussion on the mentally ill?
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It's like the old Miller Lite "Taste Great / Less Filling" ad campaign but now it's "Guns bad / Muslims bad". The media often touches on the fact that family and friends reported mental illness but then that's as far as it goes.
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If you were bullied and starved and beaten and occasionally raped and only allowed to learn from one book your whole life, would you be more or less likely to be in full control of your faculties? Most of the Radical Islamic Terrorists (RIT) were made into bad guys. They weren't born bad guys, but now they ARE bad guys, unfortunately. So we need to treat them like evil, criminal, thugs (bad guys). Sorry. And if you had all the rights and privileges and wealth and education as an American citizen, and you STILL became a RIT, then not sorry.
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Granted and I couldn't give a rat's ass about the guy. To me, he's in the Muslim terrorist column. Nor do I care how they became bad guys, only that they are the bad guys. Now, how does that address the other 281 murders and 264 wounded from bat shit crazy people going on killing sprees since 1984?
1984 - 21 killed, 19 wounded: San Ysidro, Calif
1986-14 killed, 6 wounded: Edmond, Okla.
1989-5 killed, 29 injured; Stockton, Calif.
1990-10 killed, 4 wounded: Jacksonville, Fla.
1991-22 killed, 20 wounded: Killeen, Texas
1991-4 killed, 2 injured: Iowa City, Iowa
1992-4 killed, 10 wounded: Olivehurst, Calif.
1993-8 killed, 6 injured: San Francisco
1993-6 killed, 19 injured: Garden City, N.Y
1998-5 killed, 10 injured: Jonesboro, Ark.
1999-13 killed, 24 injured: Columbine, Colo
1999-9 killed, 12 injured: Atlanta
1999-7 killed, 7 injured: Fort Worth
1999-7 killed: Honolulu
2000-7 killed: Wakefield, Mass.
2001-2 killed, 13 injured: Santee, Calif.
2002-3 killed: Tucson
2003-5 killed, 9 injured: Meridian, Miss.
2005-9 killed, 7 injured: Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minn.
2006-6 dead | Goleta, Calif.
2006-5 killed, 5 injured: Nickel Mines, Pa.(Bosnian Muslim however, investigators could not show a link to religious ideology).
2007-32 killed, 17 injured: Blacksburg, Va.
2007-8 killed, 4 injured: Omaha
2008-5 killed, 16 injured: Dekalb, Ill.
2009-13 killed, 4 injured: Binghamton, N.Y.
2010-3 killed, 3 wounded: Huntsville, Ala.
2010-8 killed, 2 injured: Manchester, Conn.
2011-6 killed, 11 injured: Tucson, Ariz.
2011-8 killed, 1 injured: Seal Beach, Calif.
2012-7 killed, 3 injured: Oakland
2012-12 killed, 58 injured: Aurora, Colo.
2012-6 killed, 3 injured: Oak Creek, Wis.
2012-6 killed, 2 injured: Minneapolis, Minn.
2012-3 dead, 4 injured: Brookfield, Wis.
2012-27 killed, one injured: Newtown, Conn.
2013-5 killed: Santa Monica
2013-12 killed, 3 injured: Washington, D.C.
2014-3 killed; 16 injured: Ft. Hood, Texas
2014-6 dead, 7 wounded: Isla Vista, Calif.
2015-9 dead: Charleston, S.C.
2015-9 dead, 9 injured: Roseburg, Ore.
2015-3 dead, 9 injured: Colorado Springs, Colo.
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2009-13 killed, 32 injured: Ft. Hood, Texas - Muslim Terrorist
2015-5 dead, 3 wounded: Chattanooga, Tenn. - Muslim Terrorist
2015-14 dead, 22 wounded: San Bernardino, Calif. - Muslim Terrorists
2016-50 killed, 53 injured in Orlando nightclub shooting. - Muslim Terrorist
NOTE: Boston bombers not listed because not a shooting spree.
Total:
Other terrorist - 363 Killed / 374 Wounded
Muslim Terrorist - 82 Killed / 110 Wounded
Source: http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/
1984 - 21 killed, 19 wounded: San Ysidro, Calif
1986-14 killed, 6 wounded: Edmond, Okla.
1989-5 killed, 29 injured; Stockton, Calif.
1990-10 killed, 4 wounded: Jacksonville, Fla.
1991-22 killed, 20 wounded: Killeen, Texas
1991-4 killed, 2 injured: Iowa City, Iowa
1992-4 killed, 10 wounded: Olivehurst, Calif.
1993-8 killed, 6 injured: San Francisco
1993-6 killed, 19 injured: Garden City, N.Y
1998-5 killed, 10 injured: Jonesboro, Ark.
1999-13 killed, 24 injured: Columbine, Colo
1999-9 killed, 12 injured: Atlanta
1999-7 killed, 7 injured: Fort Worth
1999-7 killed: Honolulu
2000-7 killed: Wakefield, Mass.
2001-2 killed, 13 injured: Santee, Calif.
2002-3 killed: Tucson
2003-5 killed, 9 injured: Meridian, Miss.
2005-9 killed, 7 injured: Red Lake Indian Reservation, Minn.
2006-6 dead | Goleta, Calif.
2006-5 killed, 5 injured: Nickel Mines, Pa.(Bosnian Muslim however, investigators could not show a link to religious ideology).
2007-32 killed, 17 injured: Blacksburg, Va.
2007-8 killed, 4 injured: Omaha
2008-5 killed, 16 injured: Dekalb, Ill.
2009-13 killed, 4 injured: Binghamton, N.Y.
2010-3 killed, 3 wounded: Huntsville, Ala.
2010-8 killed, 2 injured: Manchester, Conn.
2011-6 killed, 11 injured: Tucson, Ariz.
2011-8 killed, 1 injured: Seal Beach, Calif.
2012-7 killed, 3 injured: Oakland
2012-12 killed, 58 injured: Aurora, Colo.
2012-6 killed, 3 injured: Oak Creek, Wis.
2012-6 killed, 2 injured: Minneapolis, Minn.
2012-3 dead, 4 injured: Brookfield, Wis.
2012-27 killed, one injured: Newtown, Conn.
2013-5 killed: Santa Monica
2013-12 killed, 3 injured: Washington, D.C.
2014-3 killed; 16 injured: Ft. Hood, Texas
2014-6 dead, 7 wounded: Isla Vista, Calif.
2015-9 dead: Charleston, S.C.
2015-9 dead, 9 injured: Roseburg, Ore.
2015-3 dead, 9 injured: Colorado Springs, Colo.
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2009-13 killed, 32 injured: Ft. Hood, Texas - Muslim Terrorist
2015-5 dead, 3 wounded: Chattanooga, Tenn. - Muslim Terrorist
2015-14 dead, 22 wounded: San Bernardino, Calif. - Muslim Terrorists
2016-50 killed, 53 injured in Orlando nightclub shooting. - Muslim Terrorist
NOTE: Boston bombers not listed because not a shooting spree.
Total:
Other terrorist - 363 Killed / 374 Wounded
Muslim Terrorist - 82 Killed / 110 Wounded
Source: http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/
Deadliest U.S. mass shootings,1984-2016
Here are some of the most notable mass shootings in the U.S. in recent decades.
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MSG Christopher Chouinard - He's ordered the lowering of our flag, called for more useless gun control measures and in general ... Bored the living hell out of me.
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MSG Christopher Chouinard - Pure pandering symbolic Nothing Sandwich to show how sensitive we are. The one time State honorary symbol of respect has since been relegated to the Nation's official group hug.
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SGT Damaso V Santana - Thanks brother. I think some people are getting bent out of shape because they believe that I'm denying Muslim Terrorism. Not true ... Just not all the time.
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MSG Michael Davis
You are incorrect. I never said I don't agree with your list. I find you list to be accurate and articulate.
I know a bit about Islam, and a bit about mental illness, enough to know that comparing the 2 are like apples to oranges… no matter how hard you try to make a connection.
For the sake of your argument here’s the hard sad truth: While at present time you are more likely to be gunned down by a US citizen, if we accept all the refugees this administration is proposing, that will be infiltrated by ISIS according to our all our intelligence communities, in the near future that fear will reverse.
You are incorrect. I never said I don't agree with your list. I find you list to be accurate and articulate.
I know a bit about Islam, and a bit about mental illness, enough to know that comparing the 2 are like apples to oranges… no matter how hard you try to make a connection.
For the sake of your argument here’s the hard sad truth: While at present time you are more likely to be gunned down by a US citizen, if we accept all the refugees this administration is proposing, that will be infiltrated by ISIS according to our all our intelligence communities, in the near future that fear will reverse.
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I'm a bit torn on this. On one hand I could view this as a specious statement as we won't really know anymore than I truly know how truly effective my "Yeti Free Zone" signs are working. On the other hand, if we extrapolate the numbers proportionately of the increased numbers of Muslim males in their late teens to late 30's your with an average number killed amongst all the Muslim terrorists, one might be able to get an idea but that's assuming all things will be equal all around.
Honestly ... SFC (Join to see) I don't know what the future will bring from the influx but if we look at the attacks in Europe, it does not bode well for us.
Honestly ... SFC (Join to see) I don't know what the future will bring from the influx but if we look at the attacks in Europe, it does not bode well for us.
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PVT James Strait - So I ask that because I believe that my savior was crucified and rose from the dead and after descending into Hell rose to Heaven. I partake in a ceremony where I eat the body and drink the blood of my savior. Before being engaged in and and while in a firefight, I prayed to my God to deliver me from death but if it were his will (inshallah) I had resigned myself to my fate.
So again, as I am a Christian, would you say I am mentally ill?
Atheists ... Don't bother answering, I know where you stand as a former Atheist myself.
So again, as I am a Christian, would you say I am mentally ill?
Atheists ... Don't bother answering, I know where you stand as a former Atheist myself.
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PVT James Strait "It's the literalists that are insane." So then Islam is not mental illness? If that's what you believe, then we are in agreement.
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Capt Michael Greene
You may have a point there, Chief. Obviously the Christians should be able to pick who is godly and who is not. And since they are the newest Christians with the most recent update from God, I think the Mormons are the only true Christian religion. Can we all agree that God lives on the planet Kolob?
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