Spc to Cpl Army wide?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:13:03 -0500

I recently PCSed, at my last unit I was a CPL, I have my 4187 that shows my lateral promotion. My question is, my buddy was laterally promoted the same day, except his 4187 was sent to HRC or at least updated to CPL, mine is not. On all his records it shows CPL, mine is SPC. My form was approved by a battalion commander. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2015 12:14 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:14:14 -0500

Question: Do I turn in my 4187 or am I not entitled to the rank after pcs?

Response by CSM Carl Cunningham made Nov 10 at 2015 12:45 AM

CSM Carl Cunningham — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:45:02 -0500

You PCS'd to a new position so HRC most likely removed the rank. You would need to meet the requirements for CPL again and be reappointed. Or, you could just make points for SGT and eliminate the need for the conversation all together. :)
If you consider yourself a leader, it does not matter what rank you are wearing if you want to step up and make things happen.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2015 9:42 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:42:17 -0500

Just by that, I would say his lateral promotion was stamped approved by DA and yours was not, therefore he gets to keep his upon PCS and you do not.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2015 10:04 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 10:04:44 -0500

You may have been lateralled back to SPC as a result of reassignment, or more likely your DA 4187 was not fully processed. Technically, you should have received another DA 4187 lateralling you back to SPC, if it indeed happened. If not, your original DA 4187 to CPL is the order of record and needs to be PERM'd. If your new position is not authorized as a CPL, you're going to be a SPC anyway.
Not a big deal. E-4 is E-4. By now, you should be looking to board for Sergeant.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2015 10:31 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:31:36 -0500

I would suggest that you strive to make points so that you become a SGT. Said to say that unless your DA CPL it's not permenant.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2015 11:38 PM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 23:38:11 -0500

Your promotion was through that unit and BN not a HRC DA promotion which is permanent so once you PCS'ed you went back to SPC and he hasn't moved yet so his is still through same unit once he moves his will be taken as well! Now with that being said still at it to your IPERMS cause that shows the board later on your unit had confidence in your NCO potential!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2015 11:42 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Nov 2015 11:42:10 -0500

Go for you E5 promotion. HRC and your BN CD-R can't dispute that!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2015 6:27 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:27:23 -0500

Your was not permed to HRC