Special Forces to conduct drills among U.S. population - Undetected.

Cpl Anthony Pearson — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:31:17 -0400

Operation: Jade Helm is a special forces operations to train our military on how to operate undetected and to identify threats within the United States. Threats could possibly mean American citizens, as well as other human threats.

Some feel this is in prep for martial law. That may or may not be the case, although anything is certainly possible.

So many things to discuss about this topic:
- Do you feel that Obama and his admin declaring martial law is a viable possibility?
- How do you feel about this operation overall?

My initial feelings aren't very good. My gut is telling me this could be a real problem. I hate sounding paranoid, and I certainly don't want to think the worst.

Google search for "Jade Helm":
https://www.google.com/search?q=jade+helm&oq=jade+helm&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2j69i59j69i61l2.1255j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

Fears of martial law as special ops set to swarm Texas and Southwest

Operation Jade Helm will see 1,200 service members including Green Berets and SEALs and special forces from the Air Force and Marines in July.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 27 at 2015 1:39 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:39:23 -0400

We've been training for covert/clandestine operations for a long time. We used to "assist" the DEA & Locals with Angeles National Forest drug watching. We didn't enforce, but we did "report" EVERYTHING we saw.

I remember doing sniper training in Urban terrain in the mid-90s. I got to go with my guys, for the "back end support" aspect.

As for Martial Law? No. Not possible. Too many reasons to list.

This operation in particular? Nothing new. Non issue. We just suspended it, because of current commitments.

Response by Cpl Anthony Pearson made Mar 27 at 2015 1:42 PM

Cpl Anthony Pearson — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:42:09 -0400

More info on Jade Helm:
https://www.google.com/search?q=jade+helm&oq=jade+helm&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0l5.1287j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

jade helm - Google Search

Response by SGT Richard H. made Mar 27 at 2015 2:02 PM

SGT Richard H. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:02:15 -0400

I wouldn't get too worried about it. It kind of sounds like Robin Sage without a script if you ask me.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 27 at 2015 2:03 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:03:00 -0400

Here's a previous operation that included US forces operating inside the US:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Task_Force_North (formerly JTF-6)

Joint Task Force North - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Joint Task Force North (JTF North), formerly Joint Task Force Six (JTF-6), is a multi-service operation by the United States Department of Defense for counterdrug and anti-terrorist operations. JTF-North is headquartered at Biggs Army Airfield, Fort Bliss, Texas. United States Northern Command is the controlling Unified Combatant Command.

Response by CW2 John Brookins made Mar 27 at 2015 2:06 PM

CW2 John Brookins — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:06:50 -0400

Yep, it’s just training folks. It’s much like Robin Sage (look it up) which takes place all the time in NC. Overseas we conducted these types of training events for a long time. I’ve only glanced at the CONOP published online for locals so they know what’s going on but I’m sure it’s just a UW exercise that will save money by not deploying OCONUS to conduct. Its how we learn to move as undetected as possible with Civilians and law Enforcement looking for you. We actually have lots of great training facilities in various places throughout the US that look like they might be utilized in this exercise. SF Units and I’m sure SEALS also do this on a smaller scale all the time.

Lots of hay has been made of the fact that initial CONOPS had “For Official Use Only” on the document. But that as most here know is normal.

This reminds me of the FEMA CAMP martial Law fears of training conducted in Perry Georgia last year. Alex Jones and the like made a lot of what turned out to be just good training in a very sophisticated training site. I was there. It was only training for a unit out of Fort Benning and first responders in case of domestic emergencies like Katrina. You know the one that everyone complained we weren’t prepared for.

So, what’s the BLUF? Stay the hell away from INFOWARs unless it’s for entertainment value.

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Mar 27 at 2015 2:08 PM

SGT Jeremiah B. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:08:26 -0400

Old program and necessary as we never know when that sort of thing will be legitimately necessary.

As for the Obama martial law conspiracy theory - It's retarded. Seriously. The US isn't socially structured to encourage the military or law enforcement to mindlessly follow the orders of the president. He would be opposed by EVERYONE. The military would refuse to cooperate, the agencies would refuse to cooperate, Congress would refuse to cooperate and the states would refuse to cooperate. A vast majority of the people who voted for him would turn on him in a split second. His declaration would be a fart in a hurricane.

The only reason this gets any traction is the enormous number of lies told about Liberals by the RW media. Liberals wouldn't tolerate a dictator any more than Conservatives would...possibly less so as the willingness to use force to bring about desired change is lower in Liberal circles. We do not have a III% or oath keepers movement. Get to actually know some liberals without demanding you change their minds or accusing them of being evil/stupid and you might learn a few things you didn't know.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Mar 27 at 2015 2:14 PM

SFC Collin McMillion — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:14:29 -0400

My first impulse is to agree with you on being a bit worried about the true reason, but having been part of many operations before, if it is being done for the reasons stated, I totally support it and only wish I were back to be a part of it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2015 2:48 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:48:02 -0400

All the politically and emotionally charged BS (valid or no) aside, that sounds like some really cool training!

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Mar 27 at 2015 2:58 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:58:25 -0400

I fall on the side of the wait and see crowd. It's a training exercise, which is almost always a good thing for those involved. However, if there are irregularities with the individual activities or they step on the toes of the civilian population or local law enforcement, we'll hear about it.

Response by SPC David S. made Mar 27 at 2015 3:24 PM

SPC David S. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:24:19 -0400

The Pentagon has been war gaming like scenarios for a very long time. From military coup d'état to economic collapse which at the current is the most likely to occur as this might be our end game to our unsustainable debt. The dollar will reach a tipping point (point of no return in paying off our debt - downgrade of our rating and our interest rates go up to borrow more money) and no longer be risk free someone (major holder of US currency like China) will begin dumping the dollar. Following suit as the dollar's spirals downward others will do the same leaving us with some really cool looking toilet paper. This is not just us, there are many other nations preparing for this day as this event will have global ramifications for anyone holding US securities which is a lot of other countries. This theory has been around for some time. In 1961, the Belgian economist Robert Triffin purposed this risk of global economic collapse. The good news for us right now is that the Euro, and other foreign securities are not doing any better. As soon as some securities that do not have a US linkage become more risk free than the dollar we are in trouble. If you really want to wrap you brains around the insanity here is an article I found in regards to why we are preparing for civil unrest and why i didn't become an economist.

http://www.cfr.org/financial-crises/dangerous-us-government-debt/p22408

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2015 3:54 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:54:49 -0400

I've heard SO many things about martial law. It's almost tempting to believe that BO would do so with all the power that he possesses. They are going to have a hard time in Texas, I will tell you that.

Conspiracy theorists: Have you noticed that every time there is a shooting rampage, that there is some sort of military training going on around the area. Sandy Hook for example. I don't know who was training but I heard someone was, training scenario active shooter in a school. I would have to go and look it up again.

We all kinda say (jokingly, but IDK) about how if there is training anywhere near you, to be prepared. "False Flags"

Response by SGT Tyler G. made Mar 27 at 2015 3:57 PM

SGT Tyler G. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:57:51 -0400

The article was quoting Alex Jones as it's source of paranoia. It lost all credibility of being a legitimate fear at that point. Some of our largest annual training exercises take place within the United States. This isn't much different.

Obama has no reason to declare martial law, I can't even begin to understand the paranoia that makes people think he'd want to. On top of which, there are far too many reasons any president would be unable to effectively do so. The only time martial law will ever be declared is in a state of national emergency, such as an invasion, or a potentially catastrophic biological outbreak.

Response by PO2 Steven Erickson made Mar 27 at 2015 5:32 PM

PO2 Steven Erickson — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:32:41 -0400

Do citizens get a prize if they "detect" the Spec Ops personnel?

Seriously, as a Drill & Exercise Coordinator and Developer, this whole "undetected" thing reeks of a Murphy Family Reunion. I wonder about the "control" aspect. Remember, we're talking about the citizens of Texas, Utah, etc... I believe they'd react QUITE differently than the same population in CT, MA or NY...

Response by SGT Kevin Gardner made Mar 28 at 2015 12:16 AM

SGT Kevin Gardner — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:16:22 -0400

honestly I don't see anything wrong with training, as long as they stay in their lane, and i have full faith they will. it should be a non-issue.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Mar 28 at 2015 12:17 AM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:17:37 -0400

Where is my tin foil hat?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2015 12:19 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:19:23 -0400

Sounds like another step closer to the NWO (New World Order) taking control of the worlds government and monetary functions.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2015 1:11 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 01:11:34 -0400

The group most likely to rebel against unlawful commands would probably not be selected for such a task. I planned the capture and subsequent defense of Louisville while at training at Fort Knox.

Think more like the movie "Invasion USA" and they are Chuck Norris.

Response by PO1 Scott VanBoskirk made Apr 1 at 2015 12:34 PM

PO1 Scott VanBoskirk — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:34:56 -0400

Just an aside, and probably related to training work-ups for Jade Helm, but in the Houston area, I have seen fullyloaded (most likely training pods) Apaches flying where they normally do not. There is a training area in Wallisville, but two days ago (at 7pm) Apache spotted in Baytown using a maneuver that looked like they were conducting an attack on I-10. Yesterday, another spotted 8 miles West of Winnie, hovering low over I-10.

Really makes me wonder just what they are training for that they leave their normal training area...

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Apr 1 at 2015 5:56 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 17:56:12 -0400

My personal suspicion is this just represents training in our own turf where there's a lot of bases.

The Marine Corps trains for the full spectrum of combat ops in Southern California deserts, not to violently destroy Americans in the desert, but because it's where we can train.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2015 6:08 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:08:13 -0400

Training like this is the norm for the military state side... Would you think it was odd if you saw a convoy of military vehicles driving around a military base? These diagrams are made to look like real products used in real combat environments. This is all paranoia. I'm all about conspiracy theory's (for entertainment) but if martial law is declared the people on the hill would be looking for help from others than those in special operations, because most of them believe in the constitution, because that is what we actually swore to support and defend against all enemies forign and domestic.... and martial law without cause is not in my constitution.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2015 6:49 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:49:56 -0400

One thing you get in the political arena are articles about a coming government takeover through coercive means. These are really attempts to sell you something under the guise of being prepared. Buy our food kits and you will survive the so-called takeover.

I think that is dangerous thinking and alarming to people. And these exercises are added to the fray and the alleged FEMA camps and there you go.

Response by Sgt Adam Jennings made Apr 1 at 2015 11:18 PM

Sgt Adam Jennings — Wed, 01 Apr 2015 23:18:29 -0400

Obama could never use our military against us, and not just because it's illegal. I honestly believe that most of our military would disobey orders to turn their weapons on American citizens on the massive scale it would take to declare martial law. I believe they would is either the U.N. to do the dirty work. I absolutely DO NOT trust the U.N. Or FEMA for that matter.

Response by SFC Walt Littleton made Apr 2 at 2015 8:34 AM

SFC Walt Littleton — Thu, 02 Apr 2015 08:34:19 -0400

I was wondering if this topic would come up. I've been watching this thing grow with little media coverage.

Our POTUS has consistently proved his disloyalty to his position and has made some serious mistakes which has left this country in disarray. I feel I can say what I want because I voted for CHANGE and fooled like so many others.

Honestly I think it is something that needs to happen every few years in this country because of the world climate. Who knows when a group, a disaster or politician takes steps within their control which could put us in a situation where this may happen. Look at Hurricane Katrina. It wasn't anyone's fault. This was because of poor planning and FEMA and other agencies weren't ready for something of this magnitude.

I do have to wonder why these states were chosen. They are not fans of POTUS and have
faught him at every turn. Kinda makes you wonder why them and why now? Is this a show of power, punishment or legitimate???

Me being a LIFER and really taking my OATH seriously which I still live today I listen to my gut. My gut tells me this is a warning to these states.

You must question and wonder?

Statistics
1. POTUS birth certificate and upbringing.
2. Purging the Department of Defense Leadership.
3. Attempting to control the Interrnet.
4. Paying Major Media Enterprises to report only what is told by the WH. Controlling content.
5. Controlling the political process by using gov oversight in the IRS problems.
6. Reduction to defense to a dangerous level in a time when our military should be on full alert due to world issues.
7. Using the DOJ to push agendas and not follow the letter of the law.
8. Using coercion to control any issue that is not agreed to. Punishing Whisle Blowers.
9. Placing CZAR's in key political positions to control the WH agenda. None were vetted by Defense Security Service or were processed for Security Clearances yet they are in position of power and able to be a part of our security structure.
10. Using personal equipment to circumvent the law and procedures to properly record for history events. Lost emails, destroyed hard drives, refusing to be questioned and deception. No Prosecutions for destruction of evidence.
11. Harrasing the military by policy involvement such as issues which harm the trust and backbone of the services values such as Religion. Tattoos, Homosexuality, Gender Changes and most importantly military intitlements and retirement. BEFORE I GET ATTACKED FOR BEING A HOMOPHOBE, I assure you I am not. It is a sensitive issue and always has been. These are societal issues and need to be gradually moved into the equation however all of these issues are being thrown at you at one time and not to mention 13 years of war.
12. The VA? Don't get me started. These problems have plagued this agency since its inception. Nothing new, both sides are at fault. Government answer is to throw more money at it. Now they can't even terminate employment for poor performing supervisors and haven't prosecuted one person.

Am I on track here?

Response by Cpl Brett Wagner made Apr 2 at 2015 9:03 AM

Cpl Brett Wagner — Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:03:46 -0400

CPL Anthony Pearson - I don't think you're being paranoid. The one thing about this that doesn't alarm me too much is that it says it will be Special Forces. I'm assuming that means Rangers, Green Berets, SEALs, MAR Force Recon and Delta and if I'm right those are men & women I trust most to not kill American citizens. I'm sorry but I see a good 30-40% of our military following orders out of fear for their careers or blind faith in those above them. God knows I hope I am 100% wrong on the subject. We all know your typical Joe citizen could not compare with SPECOPS not to mention the government has all the big guns. Unlike our founders there is no way citizens could ever forcibly change our government as was written in our Declaration of Independence now we only have the vote which can be easily manipulated. God help us all.

Semper Fi

Response by SGT Dylan Epp made Apr 2 at 2015 9:22 AM

SGT Dylan Epp — Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:22:14 -0400

Hahahaha sorry what a crock of BS! Certain SMU's have been doing sim missions and selections in civilians in urban areas and cities for decades...This is nothing new.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Apr 2 at 2015 9:25 AM

MSG Floyd Williams — Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:25:01 -0400

My main concern is better security in our country, martial law need to be implemented in my hometown because crime is out of control and the police force is under paid and low in manpower.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2015 10:32 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:32:19 -0400

Special Forces? Their job is to drop behind enemy lines and train up foreign fighters.

Two questions immediately come to mind:

1) Where is the enemy line in this scenario?
2) Is there an English language proficiency rating? (foreign language proficiency is required for the SF tab)

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Apr 6 at 2015 9:08 AM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:08:18 -0400

This must have been a cover for the SF troopies to get those disk drives!

http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/guard-reserve/2015/04/02/utah-guard-hot-shots-report-special-forces/70829750/

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made Apr 17 at 2015 4:39 AM

GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad — Fri, 17 Apr 2015 04:39:16 -0400

Operation Jade Helm ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na

Why Operation Jade Helm 15 is freaking out the Internet — and why it shouldn’t be

The Special Operations exercise involves Green Berets and other elite troops and will take place in southwestern United States.

Response by CPT Bob Moore made Apr 17 at 2015 10:02 AM

CPT Bob Moore — Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:02:16 -0400

I guess I don't think much about it since I've done training off base and in plain clothes before. Sometimes it is nothing more than training to blend in and interact with people.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2015 11:21 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:21:46 -0400

Exercises like this and others have been going on for decades and do so year round all over the country. The thought of this being a readiness exercise for martial law is absolute lunacy because martial law is the most overt form of takeover. This isn't an operation, it's a training exercise, one of an essential nature based on the global threat. If this wasn't announced 90% of the population would never even notice it happening. In fact Emerald Warrior just concluded at Eglin AFB consisting of AFSOC, MARSOC, and USASOC units along with Chilean counterparts and it barely made the news.

http://www.afsoc.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/136/Article/586698/emerald-warrior-2015.aspx

Emerald Warrior 2015

Emerald Warrior is the Department of Defense

Response by TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn made Apr 30 at 2015 11:23 AM

TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:23:26 -0400

I ain't scared I'm fearless!
I whole hearty trust to U.S. Military, but with all the top generals and admirals that obama has fired I question the leadership!

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Apr 30 at 2015 11:43 AM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:43:56 -0400

“During the training operation, it is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed,” Abbott wrote. “By monitoring the Operation on a continual basis, the State Guard will facilitate communication between my office and commanders of the Operation to ensure that adequate measures are in place to protect Texans.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/04/29/as-conspiracy-theories-persist-governor-asks-texas-state-guard-to-monitor-militarys-operation-jade-helm-15/

Texas State Guard ordered to monitor military’s Operation Jade Helm 15

The State Guard, a legal militia, has been ordered to monitor an exercise prompting concerns that the federal government could take over.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Apr 30 at 2015 1:54 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 13:54:28 -0400

Law enforcement and the waging of war are two entirely different things. They require entirely different forces with entirely different types of training and equipment. That being said, I would easily support the nation's military being trained for scenarios in which terrorists infiltrate and attack domestic targets and civilians withing the borders of the United States. However, the scenario which I have seen and heard described as the basis of Jade Helm mentions civilian unrest.

Civilian unrest? Are Americans unrestful? Sure, many are and they are exercising their rights to complain and assemble, to petition the government for redress. They are electing new representatives and an epic change in state and local governments as well as the federal government is underway. Jade Helm seems an expression of the politicians in power who fear that change.

Of course, I may be in error. Am I? Have the scenarios of Jade Helm been misreported?

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Apr 30 at 2015 3:34 PM

MSG Brad Sand — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 15:34:56 -0400

Do you feel that Obama and his admin declaring martial law is a viable possibility? No, but would not be surprised to find that he was trying to do such a thing...but all of our soldiers are citizen too...would you do anything against our Nation? Then neither are these troops.

How do you feel about this operation overall? Pretty much the same as any other exercise that I was not a part of...don't really care. I think people are only alarmed because they lack trust in the President, but even if you don't trust him, when did we get a whole new crop of soldiers that we didn't serve with ourselves? I am not aware of a secret army out there and I trust the people I served with in the past.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 30 at 2015 3:35 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 15:35:52 -0400

Sometimes you need to fight like the enemy.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2015 6:40 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 18:40:27 -0400

On the map it showes Ore Grande, NM. Well hate to tell you all there is nothing out there except wide open desert and some mountains. It's a training area that is part of Fort Bliss, Texas. You could spot anyone out there from miles away.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made May 7 at 2015 1:55 PM

LTC Bink Romanick — Thu, 07 May 2015 13:55:27 -0400

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2015 4:36 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 May 2015 16:36:14 -0400

I'm going to apologize up front if I offend anybody, but.... Are you freaking serious? Has anybody not involved bother to look into the published CONOP for Jade Helm 15? Has anybody not associated with SOCOM, USASOC or Special Forces looked up the manual on Unconventional Warfare, then looked at the CONOP in a objective way? Has anyone looked into how a Realistic Military Training CONOP is planned and approved? From the overall majority of comments, I'm going to say the majority of you are answering "no" to most, if not all these questions.

1 - Politicians do not dictate training for Special Operations. Have you ever seen politicians be involved with training exercises for your conventional units? Then why would you think the Commander of SOCOM, or the Commander of USASOC would allow politicians to dictate any training of units under their command?

2 - Maybe in some conventional units subordinate commanders (form 2 Star GO Level on down) and NCOs operate as robots without looking at the big picture and understanding the strategic and tactical picture two levels above them, but that does not happen in Special Forces, or any other Special Operations unit. Specifically in ARSOF, soldiers are selected partially on their ability to operate autonomously within their guidelines and parameters, without higher commanders having to approve every step taken.

3 - If you think a bunch of SF guys are going to go out and prepare the area for martial law, you obviously have a much lower opinion of the average SF ODA team member than I wish to discuss with you. The motto of Special Forces is "De Oppresso liber". That should tell you enough.

4 - RMT exercises happen all the time. Robin Sage goes on 8 times a year. I've participated in RMTs in multiple locations all over the southwest United States, as the terrain is the cloest representation to my unit's AOR. It is not something that is lightly planned or "winged". It is extensively planned, normally by the higher element of the unit conducting the training, heavily managed to reduce signature while affording the most training value, and extensively AARed by OCs, always from inside the organization. This is in order to keep sensitive TTPs among those with a need to know, and ensure the OCs are SMEs in the overall process.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made May 8 at 2015 12:22 PM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Fri, 08 May 2015 12:22:12 -0400

Notice to all USASOC forces invading Permissive Arizona.

Free Beer at VFW Post 7400!

Please bring your ID

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 4:11 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 08 May 2015 16:11:08 -0400

If you go to Youtube, you hear people who shouldn't have a vehicle or internet access! One older granny is talking about FEMA camps and detentions. You know, that is just plain nonsense. As long as they do not put out civilians in that area and disrupt their daily lives, then it is necessary and good.

Some of these conspiracies include buying food for situations like this and the main problem is that one, they are selling a product based on fear and this is not right and two, they are scaring people and could cause harm to our military. In some senses I get the need to limit certain speech like a fire in a theatre, that kind of hubris.

Response by SPC Nathan Freeman made May 8 at 2015 5:36 PM

SPC Nathan Freeman — Fri, 08 May 2015 17:36:41 -0400

While I don't trust the administration, I have met many in the SF and I know they are patriots who will defy an unlawful command. I do believe a revolution is coming and the administration is behind it. See the forum concerning Revolution. I'm more concerned with UN vehicles rolling through our land.

Response by Col Lyman Faith made May 8 at 2015 8:26 PM

Col Lyman Faith — Fri, 08 May 2015 20:26:04 -0400

Will I receive a prize, present, or other reward if I detect one here in Utah?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2015 8:42 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 May 2015 08:42:57 -0400

I guess it was asking too much that people in the military wouldn't be part of the tinfoil hat brigade and understand this was just training.

Response by Cpl Anthony Pearson made May 15 at 2015 9:17 AM

Cpl Anthony Pearson — Fri, 15 May 2015 09:17:35 -0400

http://www.infowars.com/video-marines-practice-subduing-citizens-inside-internment-camp/

This exercise happens annually? Wow, never heard about it before.

Video: Marines Practice Subduing Citizens Inside Internment Camp

Role players chant for food and water during alarming exercise.

Response by SSG John Bacon made May 31 at 2015 6:02 PM

SSG John Bacon — Sun, 31 May 2015 18:02:22 -0400

Training such as Jade Helm have been going on in the US for Decades. You have to remember what the Motto of SF is, De Oppresso Liber "to free from oppression" or "to liberate the oppressed". I don't believe these guys would in any way shape or form follow an Illegal order to Suppress or Oppress us Citizens in some form of martial law.

Response by SFC Wayne Ocker made May 31 at 2015 6:07 PM

SFC Wayne Ocker — Sun, 31 May 2015 18:07:45 -0400

I think it's in response to illegal border crossing and civilian militant groups countering them. It's volital.

Response by SFC Wayne Ocker made May 31 at 2015 6:09 PM

SFC Wayne Ocker — Sun, 31 May 2015 18:09:46 -0400

I think it's in response to illegal border crossing and civilian militant groups countering them. It's volital.

Response by SPC Shellie Pickett made May 31 at 2015 7:13 PM

SPC Shellie Pickett — Sun, 31 May 2015 19:13:46 -0400

I'm not to sure it's a good thing, i guess i'm a little paranoid too

Response by Sgt Jay Jones made May 31 at 2015 7:27 PM

Sgt Jay Jones — Sun, 31 May 2015 19:27:14 -0400

DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID! Military exercises have been occurring in this country for decades!