Statistically speaking, which training center has more recorded training-related deaths, JRTC or NTC?
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have yet to attend training at either of these, but I'm headed to JRTC in a few months so I'm interested to see some of these answers. So far, I've heard of at least 4 deaths at JRTC since 2000 from friends of mine who were there when they happened.CPT Private RallyPoint MemberSun, 15 May 2016 12:50:13 -04002016-05-15T12:50:13-04:00Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2016 12:51 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is a tough one. I was at NTC as a Medical OC for 2 years during my time there were two training related<br /> deaths. But we also had several OC <br />deaths that were non training related so training deaths was low <br />but non training was higher. Its tough to say probrably need more data to confirm.SFC Private RallyPoint MemberSun, 15 May 2016 12:51:38 -04002016-05-15T12:51:38-04:00Response by CPT Joseph K Murdock made May 15 at 2016 2:09 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only reason I would pick NTC is its trees, underbrush, and swamps.CPT Joseph K MurdockSun, 15 May 2016 14:09:34 -04002016-05-15T14:09:34-04:00Response by 1LT William Clardy made May 15 at 2016 2:24 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Speaking from experience, the NTC in its early years averaged at least one death per rotation (and that wasn't even counting the traffic fatalities on Irwin Road), so I'd say it's got the JRTC beat hands-down.1LT William ClardySun, 15 May 2016 14:24:05 -04002016-05-15T14:24:05-04:00Response by SPC Cedar Bristol made Nov 10 at 2016 12:21 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was just googling this because I talked to someone who was there (NTC) in the early 70's and told of a single training exercise that killed something in the neighborhood of 10 soldiers. Can anybody help with links or pointers as to where I would go to look for documentation of that?SPC Cedar BristolThu, 10 Nov 2016 12:21:18 -05002016-11-10T12:21:18-05:00Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2018 2:41 AM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We had 4 die at the rotation that I went on. In separate accidents. And a few soldiers lost fingers and stuff like that.SPC Private RallyPoint MemberSun, 13 May 2018 02:41:36 -04002018-05-13T02:41:36-04:00Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Nov 9 at 2018 3:09 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Use the power of the CAC and go to the Army Readiness Center aka the Army Safety Center and pull stats. <br /><br />My inclination would be NTC has more due to more vehicles rolling. JRTC has airborne operations which may skew it. I was OPFOR 94-98 and we had a few deaths, mostly Blufor. 92 was a bad year, I believe that was the Brad platoon that flipped over of the Colorado wash. Several TCs killed among others. During my time: Several rollovers. OC crushed by an AVLB. Augmentee 5 ton rammed an ambulance head on in Barstow rd at EOM killed the medic. Two OCs earned Soldiers Medals trying to save a tanker trapped in the drivers compartment during a vehicle fire. Crew bailed and left him. <br /><br />Preponderance if deaths were POVs on 10 mile stretch.LTC Jason MackayFri, 09 Nov 2018 15:09:21 -05002018-11-09T15:09:21-05:00Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Nov 9 at 2018 3:45 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Excuse me - Photograph not of either NTC or JRTC. <br />That would be the ITC (Iraqi Traning Center)SFC Ralph E KelleyFri, 09 Nov 2018 15:45:18 -05002018-11-09T15:45:18-05:00Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2024 8:57 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The photo is from Iraq - B/4-64 AR. This is a combat incident.COL Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 10 Oct 2024 20:57:08 -04002024-10-10T20:57:08-04:00Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2024 9:00 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As of recent reports, the exact number of people who have died at the National Training Center (NTC) in training accidents varies, but available data suggests that over the years, several dozen fatalities have occurred due to training-related incidents. For example, in the early 2000s, there were multiple high-profile accidents, and a report from 2019 noted that three soldiers died in accidents during a single year.<br /><br />The annual average number of fatalities fluctuates, but it is generally low given the high-risk nature of military training. On average, the NTC sees about one or two fatal accidents per year. The U.S. Army has made significant efforts to improve safety measures, but due to the inherently dangerous nature of realistic combat training, some accidents unfortunately still occur.COL Private RallyPoint MemberThu, 10 Oct 2024 21:00:32 -04002024-10-10T21:00:32-04:00Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made Oct 11 at 2024 3:17 PM
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<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Was Your Name "Next In Line"<br />although the post is 8 years ago,<br /> my sarcasm is "fresh off the line"A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaneyFri, 11 Oct 2024 15:17:27 -04002024-10-11T15:17:27-04:002016-05-15T12:15:33-04:00