Posted on Mar 23, 2015
Stolen Valor - Outrage Over Stolen Valor Prompts Bill in Massachusetts
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The bill introduced by Westfield state Rep. John Velis, a U.S. Army Reserves captain who served in Afghanistan, would make such misrepresentations punishable by up to a year in jail and/or a $1,000 fine.
"When you're doing it for financial gain, whether it's a veteran's discount at a store or a special rate on a loan, that should be a crime," Velis said.
The bill -- one of the strongest versions of the federal c in the nation -- is gaining the support of local veterans, who say it addresses a growing problem documented in YouTube videos of veterans outing wannabes seeking discounts and attention.
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http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/03/23/outrage-over-stolen-valor-prompts-bill-in-massachusetts.html
"When you're doing it for financial gain, whether it's a veteran's discount at a store or a special rate on a loan, that should be a crime," Velis said.
The bill -- one of the strongest versions of the federal c in the nation -- is gaining the support of local veterans, who say it addresses a growing problem documented in YouTube videos of veterans outing wannabes seeking discounts and attention.
Read the entire article here:
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/03/23/outrage-over-stolen-valor-prompts-bill-in-massachusetts.html
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Responses: 41
Tax payer money could be better spent then on these clowns. Since canning is not legal in this country, public shaming will have to suffice.
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That dude looks legit... I am all for such legislation, but I believe, these are also hard to enforce.
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I wonder how this will be enforced, not to mention how will it be researched on each violation. Individual service records check. The services have current violators in the ranks wearing whatever they purchase until you check the records.
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SPC(P) Mark Newman
My (former) unit helped out a poser who actually was a vet. It took, I think, 5 months to get any movement and about 11 months to halt the sale of nonfiction books about being a Green Beret Army Intelligence CIA secret agent Vietnam vet. Oh, and possible government assasain. It took us, an SF SV group, a lawyer (who simply wrote this dork a letter on our behalf) and two (civilian) reporters.
PS I was on board more for moral support, occasional brain storming by PM when we hit a dead end (I'm a civilian courts reporter these days), and occassional inappropriate yet hillarious comments that contributed nothing to our Stolen Valor Fight mission.
PS I was on board more for moral support, occasional brain storming by PM when we hit a dead end (I'm a civilian courts reporter these days), and occassional inappropriate yet hillarious comments that contributed nothing to our Stolen Valor Fight mission.
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Lt Col (Join to see)
The people on the stolen valor websites like "This Ain't Hell" have the way of doing it. They typically do FOIA request at the NPRC in St. Louis. If law enforcement has all of his info, it will be easy to get. Plus if they claim to be a SEAL, Don Shipley has all of the records of everybody who passed seal training and earned the trident. Its not that hard, especially if they try to fake elite units and higher valor awards. Usually one of two things happens in the records search. NPRC either returns a we don't have any file on this person. Or it is an actual vet, but they either did a short stint and got kicked out or they had a decent career, but it was like a admin role and they decide to make themself Rambo.
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This guy should get an award for the most outlandish looking uniform on the planet. The only thing its missing are some five star fleet admiral shoulder boards. he sold himself short. He should have at least sewn on some command chief stripes, hahaha. At least he isn't wearing a SEAL trident. He would have gotten a call from the senior chief Don Shipley.
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Boy the guy in the picture you can tell that's stolen all the way he still looks like he's wet behind the ears and fake as he'll
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Lt Col (Join to see)
It is, I read about it in one of the stolen valor pages. If I recall he wore this on an actual base during his brother's basic training graduation. He got arrested taken to the law enforcement building where they confiscated the uniform and he was escorted off the base by the police.
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SPC Michael Tierney
How embarrassing. When I was in the hospital in Cam Ran Bay, I found a fatigue shirt with e-5 stripes. Since I was an E-4, I couldn't get into the NCO club. I wore the sergeant stripes until I was discharged from the hospital. In the jungle, I don't remember too many people who cared about your rank.
It was interesting to discover, later, how coveted a CIB was for career guys.
It was interesting to discover, later, how coveted a CIB was for career guys.
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