The 7 sinful career-enders of QMP do you agree or disagree RallyPoint? I agree, to focus on the total Soldier concept.

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:10:17 -0400

NEW RULES FOR Qualitative
Management Pro- gram screenings will be triggered when items in one of the
following seven categories are received for permanent filing in a soldier’s Army
Military Human Resources Record.

The QMP policy only applies to documents related to
performance or conduct in a soldier’s current grade. Documents generated before
a soldier was promoted to his or her current rank will be not used for QMP
referral.

The seven sins:

1. Memorandum of reprimand from a general officer.

2. Conviction by court-martial or punishment under Article
15 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

3. A “relief for cause” NCO Evaluation Report (DA Form
2166-8) pre- pared in compliance with Paragraph 3-55 of Army
Regulation 623-3 (Evaluation Reporting System).

4.The annotation of “no” in Part IV, Block A of DA Form
2166-8, which is the section of the NCO Evaluation Report dealing with Army
values, attributes, skills and actions.

5. A rating from the
senior rater of 4 (fair) or 5 (poor) for overall performance or potential in
Part V, Blocks C or D of the NCO Evaluation
Report.

6. A Service School Academic Evaluation Report (DA form
1059) indicating failure of an NCO Education System course.

7. The approval by the Army G-1 of a request from the
commander of the Human Resources Command
or a commander with
general court-martial convening authority to refer a soldier to QMP
processing.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2014 9:21 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:21:51 -0400

I agree with all!!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2014 9:22 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:22:43 -0400

I agree as well. This goes in line with CSA Chandler wanting a more professional Army.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2014 10:24 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:24:16 -0400

Great information. One question I'm sure will raise is the reprimand piece. I do know a few of my peers who received reprimands for whatever reasons I'm not privy to. But none, that I know of, are GOMORs. They're BN or BDE level reprimand letters filed in their AMHRR by request to the first GO in the chain of command. Is there really a difference between an LOR and GOMOR with regard to QMP?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2014 10:36 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:36:46 -0400

Thank you for the clarification! I agree with it, particularly in keeping the digging in the current grade...I know plenty of folks that got an article 15 early in and have been clean as a whistle since....though that would be one way to down size.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2014 10:24 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Apr 2014 22:24:57 -0400

Here is my question what if a Soldier is fighting their referred NCOERs that have items 3-5 on the list? Does the board still get to see these or is it blocked? If blocked does the board pass over them or know that they are referred? What would you do if you were on the board?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2014 7:51 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 26 Apr 2014 19:51:22 -0400

I have no problem with the QMP process. It is not very different from the original criteria that was developed in the early 1990s. My concerns lie with the Qualitative Service Program (QSP) process. There are no definitive criteria for determining who may be separated that I have found yet this will be the third QSP board. Not to make to broad of a generalization, but if you meet the criteria for QMP review you probably should be out of the Army and in my humble opinion, you probably shouldn't have been promoted to your current rank. The Army is relatively easy to navigate, show up where and when you're told to do so and be in the correct uniform. If you apply those principle to your whole life, I can't see you doing anything that would put you on the QMP radar.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2015 8:46 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:46:04 -0400

I've got no problems with this because on the Officer side, if you earn any of those black marks on your record, don't count on making the next rank. More than likely you will be subject to a separation board and sent packing. Keeping your nose clean on and off duty shouldn't be hard.