The Bergdahl Sentencing and the Precedent it Sets

2017-11-03T14:12:45-04:00

The US Army Values are Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity and Personal Courage.
Former Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl apparently forgot these when, on June 30, 2009, he deserted his unit in Afghanistan, where he wanted to, in his words, “make the world a better place.” Former SGT Bergdahl also forgot that he was wearing the uniform of the United States Army, and that armies fight wars. He signed up. No one forced him into service, and no one forced him to continue service if at any point he decided he had had enough.

In the Army there are legitimate avenues of redress of grievances, and now more than ever before. Your chain of command, the Chaplain, a JAG (Judge Advocate General) officer, or even the highest commander above where you think your problem lies. SGT Bergdahl had whipped himself into an almost psychotic state of isolation, from his unit, from his battle-buddies and even from himself. In the end, the enemy seemed more desirable than the mess he had made in his foxhole.

The sentencing of SGT (now PV-1) Bergdahl is now complete. Instead of a 14 year sentence, sought by the prosecution, a sentence of time served, a reduction in rank, forfeiture of pay and a dishonorable discharge will have to do.

Although Bergdahl had plead guilty to desertion and misconduct before the enemy, the circumstances under which SGT Bergdahl was released, the trade of five Taliban leaders notwithstanding, has its own implications of treason. Some have said that Bergdahl has suffered enough, including his defense team. Some say he is not fit to live, let alone wear the uniform. Several witnesses have testified about their war injuries and losses they claim happened because of Bergdahl’s desertion. There were rumors but no evidence that SGT Bergdahl had given the enemy critical information about the unit, its operations and Standard Operating Procedures (SOP). This would allow the enemy to anticipate the unit’s movements and tendencies, potentially deadly information. Some say, while searching for SGT Bergdahl, they were hit and men died. One man, a former Navy SEAL, claimed tearfully that his service dog was killed on one such mission, and others suffered crippling and career ending injuries. All of this was supposedly taken into consideration before the sentence was handed down by the military judge, Col. Jeffery Nance.

In my opinion, all this testimony is over-engineering. It’s all good, but shouldn’t be necessary to complete the project. Bergdahl deserted in a time of war. How do you maintain good order and discipline if you allow folks to just walk away? There is no claim of insanity. There is no plea bargain. There is no excuse. The punishment for desertion can be death.The reason for this goes back to the beginning of human conflict. If you run in the face of the enemy, you have abdicated your responsibility as a member of the group to help keep the group safe.
In our own Revolutionary War and subsequent conflicts, such as the Civil War, it wasn’t so much power and punch that won the day as it was which side would run first. Name a war or conflict, and what wins the day more times than not is the will to win or survive. Fight or flight. This is why the American Army is so effective; we are trained that in war the mission comes first. We are trained to never leave a soldier behind. We are trained to be good teammates. We are trained to care for each other, help each other and protect each other. And in the foxhole, when the bullets are flying, it’s about you and your battle-buddy, fighting for your lives.The bigger picture is that you are defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, part of the oath of enlistment that Bergdahl breached. But if you allow soldiers to run and then suffer inadequate consequences, what are you telling everyone else who swore that same oath? What then does it mean? In our politically correct, social media, “If it feels good, do it” society, oaths and promises seem blasé and passé. In fact, they are our lifeblood. If we let one instance of obvious and blatant desertion slip through the cracks, what then do we do with the next one, or the next? Kneeling for the national anthem and the absence of even one American flag on the opening night of a national political convention are not simply warning signs, they are signs of the apocalypse that feed the idea that Bergdahl did nothing wrong. That he is innocent of desertion because he was oppressed and that somehow his actions were free speech. It’s not about any of that. It’s about loyalty. The number one most important Army value, and value in life. The acronym constructed out of the Army Values is LDRSHIP (Leadership). The Army aspires to train every soldier to be a leader. In the American Army, even E-Private Zero, Snuffy Smith is expected to carry out the mission if all the leaders above him are incapacitated, in the spirit of Audie Murphy. Murphy, the highly decorated farm boy turned hero from WWII who was battlefield promoted from sergeant to second lieutenant and saved many lives with his heroism, over, and over again, all at 5’4” and 112 pounds, carried on with the mission, time and again. We owe it to the memory of all those who gave their lives in defense of this great nation. We owe it to those who were injured and may have died while searching for Bowe Bergdahl, and we owe it to the future of this nation that Bowe Bergdahl’s punishment fit the crime. But the punishment in this case has not fit the crime in any way, shape or form. The echo from this proceeding will carry far and wide, that the perceived suffering of one man, a deserter, held more weight than the entire history of the military of the greatest nation on earth.

Response by Cpl Tou Lee Yang made Nov 3 at 2017 2:18 PM

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It is sad that people has to die to search for him...but "they knew what they signed up for".

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Nov 3 at 2017 2:41 PM

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PVT Birdshit's next stop: The nearest sympathetic media outlet to cry about how HE is the "real" victim in all this!

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2017 2:44 PM

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MAJ Montgomery Granger I was shocked and angered by the sentence. He should be doing serious prison time.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2017 2:54 PM

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While the punishment for desertion can be death, reality is that it almost never is in the US military. Only one soldier from WWII on has been executed for desertion. That was a private in WWII, despite there being 21,000 soldiers convicted of desertion in WWII alone. And there were tens of thousands of deserters in the VN war, and over a hundred in the Iraq War. So the idea that deserters are routinely given a death penalty or severe sentences in order to prevent all the other troops from deserting is just not supported by the facts. And in a way, IMO, it is an insult to the hundreds of thousands of brave soldiers who served or are serving, suggesting that the only reason they stay and fight instead of running away is a fear of getting caught and getting a death sentence or a lengthy prison term.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2017 2:56 PM

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Very well said, sir.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Nov 3 at 2017 2:56 PM

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Well stated sir, well stated.

Response by SGT Christopher Hayden made Nov 3 at 2017 2:57 PM

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Colonel Nance saw 14 years and thought "Yeah, the same thing as a guy who pisses hot a few times sounds about fair enough and even with 14 years."

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2017 3:06 PM

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I was not the judge and would not have wanted to serve as the one for this case.

Unless you have heard all of the testimony that the judge heard it is unfair to say if he did or did not do the right thing.

Yes, I disagree with the outcome, but, that is based on very limited information of what happened at the court marshal and I am willing to think the judge acted fairly.

Response by SSgt Donald Libby made Nov 3 at 2017 3:08 PM

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Thank you Major for that excellent response.

Response by PO3 John Jeter made Nov 3 at 2017 3:37 PM

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I cannot help but believe that a political message was placed higher in priority than justice in this farce. With a single decision, I believe the presiding officer has abdicated the Army's right and duty to impose punishment and enforce discipline among the ranks. Furthermore, this decision is a slap in the face to every family whose loved one stood their ground and made the ultimate sacrifice keeping faith with their comrades. Desertion has always been among the most odious and detestable of offenses, even more so when it occurs on the battlefield. It is a base betrayal of every moral trait and core value of every warrior since the beginning of time. It is inconceivable to me that any officer of the United States military could countenance such leniency for such a spurious reason as the effect of a personal opinion expressed in a public forum by the POTUS. Our commander in chief has taken rather obvious pains to step back from the intense micromanaging of previous administrations in military matters. Additionally, he has never been known to punish or persecute people over differences of opinion as long as they perform in a competent manner. Much has been made by the defense about how this.......person.... suffered at the hands of his `captors'. They maintain that he has suffered enough. I would hasten to observe that he was (allegedly) mistreated because of his own choices and actions and therefore should have no relevance to sentence imposed. I'm not privy to all the evidence or facts considered in rendering this decision, but I cannot conceive of any possible combination of factors which would justify this person walking away with several hundred thousand dollars of back pay and an arguable "slap on the wrist" as punishment. As an enlisted man, I would take extreme pains to avoid being assigned to any command under this presiding judges authority. In our volunteer military, one must have confidence in the integrity and judgement of those who command in order to serve, and that confidence has been severely shaken......

Response by Capt Gregory Prickett made Nov 3 at 2017 3:49 PM

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Well, that's a slice of time that I'll never get back, and is just about completely inaccurate.

MAJ Montgomery Granger stated at the end of his first paragraph that "no one forced him to continue service if at any point he decided he had had enough." You just justified desertion with that sentence. No, he can't just decide that he's had enough, he enlisted and has to serve through his enlistment, whether he wants to or not. He can't quit and walk away, that is what he was court-martialed for.

Next, treason is defined by the Constitution of the United States, and the fact that you don't understand that is troubling. The reason treason was defined is to keep it from being used against those whom are unpopular, to avoid it being used to punish those for which there was a public outcry against. The Founding Fathers had seen the charge of treason misused by the king, which is why, during the entire history of the United States, only 40 people have been tried for treason, with limited success.

Onto the desertion charge--first, he was not charged with desertion during time of war, for the simple fact that we are not legally at war. Only Congress can declare war, and that last happened in World War II. The military justice system is not stupid enough to put Bergdahl on trial for that when they can get the same practical punishment for the misbehavior before the enemy charge.

Finally, he was convicted and sentenced, after testimony and evidence was presented. That's what the system did, and it did so under the rule of law.

Response by SCPO Morris Ramsey made Nov 3 at 2017 4:09 PM

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MAJ Montgomery Granger Good post Major.

Response by MSgt Neil Greenfield made Nov 3 at 2017 4:36 PM

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I don't think the precedent was set here. This isn't really anything new. Some of you may have forgotten, or do not know, about 1LT William Calley, of the Vietnam War era, and specifically My Lai. He served 3 years under house arrest and was finally released after being dishonorably discharged. From Wikipedia:
"William Laws Calley Jr. (born June 8, 1943) is a former United States Army officer convicted by court-martial of murdering 22 unarmed South Vietnamese civilians in the My Lai Massacre on March 16, 1968, during the Vietnam War. While not technically exonerated, after three and a half years of house arrest, Calley was released after a ruling by federal judge J. Robert Elliott who found that Calley's trial had been prejudiced by pre-trial publicity, denial of subpoenas of certain defense witnesses, refusal of the United States House of Representatives to release testimony taken in executive session of its My Lai investigation, and inadequate notice of the charges. His initial conviction faced widespread public opposition both due to the campaign circumstances of civilian embedded Viet Cong, and due to Calley being singled out as the sole officer convicted in relation to the massacre."
Read the rest here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley

William Calley - Wikipedia

William Laws Calley Jr.[1] (born June 8, 1943) is a former United States Army officer convicted by court-martial of murdering 22 unarmed South Vietnamese civilians in the My Lai Massacre on March 16, 1968, during the Vietnam War. While not technically exonerated, after three and a half years of house arrest, Calley was released after a ruling by federal judge J. Robert Elliott who found that Calley's trial had been prejudiced by pre-trial...

Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made Nov 3 at 2017 4:46 PM

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While I agree with you whole heartedly, apparently Col. Nance does not. I have to wonder which Army the Col is in. Because the professed values of the U.S. Army, and the DOD as a whole were not held up today.

Response by 1stSgt Eugene Harless made Nov 3 at 2017 4:54 PM

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The precedent was already set with this Scumba He deserted TWICE.
Once in Iraq and once while awaiting trial. He only served two years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassef_Ali_Hassoun

Wassef Ali Hassoun - Wikipedia

Wassef Ali Hassoun (Arabic: واصف علي حسون; born January 1, 1980) is a United States Marine who was charged with desertion for leaving his unit and engaging with others in a hoax to make it appear that he had been captured by terrorists on June 19, 2004 while serving in Iraq. Originally listed as having deserted, the Lebanese-born U.S. Marine was then thought to have been taken hostage by Iraqis who were thought to have befriended him.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2017 5:41 PM

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I am extremely disappointed with the judges choice for no prison time. I do not care if he got busted down to a private along with dishonorable discharge and pay fines for 10 months. He should be sitting in a military prison for life. He endangered several soldiers’ lives by what he did.

Plus he is going to fight the dishonorable discharge.....that’s a bunch of......welll, you know what....... this a-hole is a waste of air and space. He needs to shot on site and buried outside of a cemetery in the ground facing down. That way, he for goes and rots in hell along with his Taliban brothers.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2017 5:49 PM

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I feel it is very hard to know what happened in the sentencing portion of the trial - where the judge noted the prior prejudicial statements and possible interference by both Obama and Trump. I would have liked to see an entirely independent military tribunal making a decision on the facts and the law - not basing their opinion and sentence on the protestations of the leadership of either political party. I beg to differ about the strength of the american military laying in the death penalty for desertion -- rather it lays in the high degree of commitment, training, honor, and loyalty of our officers and troops. I feel this is a sad day because serious prison time appears to have been fully warranted by his behavior. Warmest Regards, Sandy

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/03/politics/bowe-bergdahl-sentenced/index.html

Bowe Bergdahl gets dishonorable discharge, avoids prison time

Bowe Bergdahl received a dishonorable discharge but no prison time for desertion and misbehavior before the enemy after abandoning his outpost in Afghanistan 2009, a military judge ruled.

Response by MAJ Monique Ruiz made Nov 3 at 2017 5:49 PM

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It’s getting to be a harder pill to swollen when we talk about the Army Values because they’re being loosely practiced all around. It’s disappointing to watch.

Response by SGT Tony Clifford made Nov 3 at 2017 6:09 PM

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Well, I tend to think that we should have just left him in Afghanistan. Why is it that he's being freed in the US? He left his ID on the FOB he deserted. On deployment you ID counts as a passport. A revocation of citizenship abroad only requires that you surrender your passport to the US government, which he did. By that metric, he isn't a citizen anymore, he is a man without a country.

Response by PO2 Michael Berry made Nov 3 at 2017 7:15 PM

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I am greatly saddened by this ruling. Like all rulings, military or civilian, they all have consequences. As you can tell I see this as not just a military issue. It seems that in recent history the sentences for various acts of misconduct that make to the news, the rulings are getting less severe. This results in a ever increasing cycle lower expectations of people and no one being held accountable for their actions. How can a superior officer expect his order to be obeyed if the person receiving the order thinks that there will be little or no punishment for disobeying. I have read all of the comments concerning this discussion, yet no one has mentioned the bigger picture. I served on active duty in the U.S. Coast Guard from 1977 to 1986 and 1986 to 1993 in the Reserves. I was assigned to a unit where the moral was so bad that the Commandant ordered an investigation. Not once during my assignment to this unit (almost 3 years) did desertion or disobedience ever enter my or my shipmates minds. It sounds like in today's military you are not held to as high of a standard of Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, INTEGRITY and Personal Courage.

I am not privy to the actual proceedings and will not be an arm chair quarterback second guessing the thought process of the military judge, Col. Jeffery Nance. But if it looks like, sounds like and acts like a chicken then it is probably a chicken.

I feel empathy and pride for the troops that sacrificed themselves for Bergdahl. Not knowing that he had deserted but assumed that something else happened against his will.

MAJ Montgomery Granger thank you for your thoughtful comments and thanks to all of you that had constructive comments.

Response by CW5 Ranger Dave made Nov 3 at 2017 7:46 PM

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I'm really surprised he wasn't pardoned by Obama, after the way Obama was hitting on the boy's Mama in the Rose Garden.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Nov 3 at 2017 7:51 PM

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What a slap in the face of justice. Wonder who got paid off? I'd put my faith in the UCMJ, but it has clearly failed this time.

Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Nov 3 at 2017 7:51 PM

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Best check for a "Son of Sam" clause in that verdict. If not, raise hell. No idea if North Carolina law includes one or how NC views dishonorable discharges(are they a felony there). , or how that interacts with military verdicts.

Response by PO3 Phyllis Maynard made Nov 3 at 2017 8:14 PM

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Legally, the matter has reached closure. So many individuals, so much pain, I hope healing comes.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Nov 3 at 2017 10:05 PM

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The soldiers shot while attempting to rescue Bergdahl are his responsibility but the four killed in Niger knew what they signed up for.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Nov 3 at 2017 10:18 PM

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I'm P.O'd, it appears he walked off, supposedly going to complain to higher about something. Hm, a non-Arab in an Arab land wearing American uniform going to walk x Km's across Indian territory to higher HQ. WTF happened to requesting to see the IG, or calling the IG office with this problem? Then he gets caught and SAYS he tried at least once to escape, again in the middle of Indian territory, who is he Rambo. Patrols are sent out to find him- NOT normal recon, check on the neighborhood, but lets hit every village and question/search everyone, and folks get killed/maimed for it. ( Ignoring dumb leatherneck Junior NCO here)- This might not have happened during NORMAL Patrols. Spends 5 yrs as a captive (HIS OWN FAULT) and the politicians trade 5 known terrorists for him, and several of them go right back to killing. Is it worth the money to keep him in jail, execution ( not going to happen in PC land), bring the dead/maimed back to life? Answers probably not, but it might keep some other lil snowflake from trying it. I would live happy knowing that he was slowly rotting away in Leavenworth or some Federal Pen.

Response by Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay made Nov 3 at 2017 11:52 PM

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War is insane. War is obsolete in resolving differences. War does not prove who is right or wrong. War does not prove who is good or bad. Soldiers are suppose to protect their country and its people not the interest or fears of the country's status quo and go on pre-emptive invasions. Truth is the first casualty of war and history is written by the victor. We are insane and we suspect that we are.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Nov 4 at 2017 10:25 AM

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This wouldn't have happen in the Cold War Era.

Response by GySgt Kenneth Pepper made Nov 4 at 2017 12:08 PM

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What can we do about it? For all of you still on active duty out there pay attention. All of you have the obligation to identify anyone who may be considering "going over the wall". I would be willing to bet you that members of Turdball's unit saw or hreard things that weren't quite right, but chose to not say anything.
If someone had identified Turdball as a potential deserter steps could have been taken to get his head back on straight or remove him from duty and place him under watch.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2017 1:17 PM

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Here's some interesting background info from 2016 about what the 15-6 investigation found, and some quotes from various people on both sides. It won't change anyone's minds, I'm sure, but can shed some light on why this was a more complex decision about sentencing than many think it was.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/05/serial-bowe-bergdahl-mystery-pow-419962.html

Bowe Bergdahl: What the army doesn't want you to know

We already know what America’s most notorious POW did and why. The only mystery is why the Army doesn't like it.

Response by CPL Beth Allsop made Nov 4 at 2017 1:47 PM

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MAJ Montgomery Granger Thank you writing such an interesting piece. Years ago I supported bringing Bergdahl home, “No one left behind”. However after we decided to trade 5 prisoners for his release, my opinion took an immediate turn.
I fail to agree with his current sentence and I believe at the very least that his lump sum back pay should be returned to the gov’t through payments by him or through IRS deduction.
He should have asked to be relieved of his duties - not taken a stroll toward the enemy!

Response by CW5 Edward "Tate" Jones Jr. made Nov 4 at 2017 1:51 PM

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I suspect that the Judge here will get a 'not so subtle" message that he is now terminal in current grade and will quietly disappear into retirement.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Nov 4 at 2017 4:45 PM

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This is a horrible precedent for Military discipline and will only encourage the behavior in the future from future Soldiers. The fact he has his lawyer now arguing that the Dishonorable Discharge should be changed to General is even more sickening.

Response by SP5 Jerry Mucha made Nov 4 at 2017 8:42 PM

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Take him back to Afgan and let him remain there. He deserted to be with them, let him return

Response by SGT Robert Hawks made Nov 4 at 2017 11:43 PM

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I thought the convening authority had to a prove the sentence? The judge is not the convening authority.

Response by PO3 Grant Skiles made Nov 5 at 2017 4:43 AM

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This is wrong on every front. He is a deserter who collaborated with the enemy. He left his post and the result was men being killed and permanently disabled looking for him. Finally our TRAITOR President trades some of the worst international criminals and murders for this jerk. The Judge should be ashamed and everyone higher than him should give him a unfit report. He should NEVER be a Military Judge in any case again.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Nov 5 at 2017 8:47 AM

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First "Chelsea" and now Bergdahl. How are military leaders supposed to enforce the rules and regulations when apparently the UCMJ has be overcome by political correctness and career officers afraid to make the right call. I for one have a hard time deciding who is the bigger failure, Bergdahl or the judge.

Response by SGT Walter Lester made Nov 5 at 2017 12:24 PM

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I agree with you 100% MAJ Montgomery Granger,
I also feel that Col. Jeffery Nance didn't do his job to the best of his ability. He didn't follow the laws and rules of the UCMJ. There is a lot missing with this case and it is because of politics and save face with the higher ups involved. I feel that the judge has signed Burgdahl's death warrant with his sentencing.

Response by Cpl Joseph Richardson made Nov 5 at 2017 2:00 PM

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You want the Truth ? Firing Squad !!!

Response by SSgt Michael NeSmith made Nov 5 at 2017 7:17 PM

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Definitely was shocked in the decision, and wondering now what is the purpose of the UCMJ if we’re not going to follow through with the justice that is deserved in this matter “ Death seems fair for him”

Response by SGT David T. made Nov 6 at 2017 10:06 AM

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I can understand the anger surrounding this, but I hold a different perspective. Had he got locked up, we would have to pay for his clothing, housing, education, security, and health care for the entire time he was in prison. At least this way, in 10 months, we don't have to pay for him anymore. This guy is a nobody and really not worth the cost of keeping him in jail. What he did was wrong. No question. But how much money are we willing to dump into him? For every dollar spent to keep him in jail is a dollar not being spent on weapons, ammo, food, and so on. Every cent we spend on him is a BB status on a requisition or a deadlined piece of equipment. I would much rather this outcome and spend the money on good troops who don't walk off.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2017 2:17 PM

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The precedent set was the commander in chief opening his big mouth about Bergdahl. I have read the judge took those into account too so perhaps he ruled the way he did to avoid an appeal later on.

Also there are five people on death row in Leavenworth...the military hasn't executed anyone since 1961 I believe is what I read. So even if he got death he would have just sat there until he died of old age.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2017 2:31 PM

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He didn’t anytime lol. Everyone should choose court martial the next time you are in the commanders office lol.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Nov 7 at 2017 2:35 PM

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I am in suspense awaiting the details and the amount of $,$$$,$$$ included in Bergdahl’s “book deal”!

Response by LtCol Robert Quinter made Nov 7 at 2017 11:17 PM

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There was actually a precedent for Bergdahl in the Garwood case after Viet Nam. I feel the same way about Bergdahl as I did Garwood and find many similarities in the cases. Both had questionable, but brief, records prior to their leaving, or disappearing, from their posts, and both reaped the profits of having powerful politicians on their teams and courts when popular support of the war had dissolved or at least waned. Fortunately, judging from the majority of the responses to the Major's write up, the sense of duty persists in the hearts of most of us, and the leniency of Bergdahl's sentence will not have any more lasting effect upon military members as did Garwood's. True warriors know what is expected of them and will adhere to their self generated expectations of service. The threat of a court martial is not the source of dedication to duty, nor even obedience to orders; they come from within.

Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Nov 8 at 2017 9:32 AM

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To honest and Devil Advocate. Bergdahl should have never joined or allowed to stay -in. Then he got hit by the truth of US presence in Af-Pak and the "War on Terror. (It is a joke) He should have just waited his time and got out. I did. But since he didn't he broke contract and got other people killed. For that he deserves alot of punishment to maintain morale of others. However here is the clue, since the army did nothing to him, it is apparent the army does not care about the morale of the people in. It doesn't need to , to perform its mission of making money for the MIC or ensuring the security of a Middle eastern nation. we got too many generals as politicians and waiting their for their 2nd job at some big defense contractor. The army ain't around to fight wars no more for the American people, It is the security arm for the New World order. A security guard wanders off and a few get hurt/killed? BFD. The big green machine doesn't worry about Bergdahl, because it doesn't worry about any of its soldiers. They are mops in the closet of a big Corporation.

Response by SSgt John Carter made Nov 8 at 2017 11:39 AM

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The President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. His public comments amounted to command influence of the legal process and he had no place in even suggesting a sentence and he should have let justice take it's course. The judge did not abdicate his duties, he knew that the President's comments had a negative effect on the sentencing and had he sentenced the Sgt. to life in prison, it probably would have been overturned. We'd like to scream "liberal" till our heads fall off, but in the end, the blame falls squarely on President Trump for his attempting to undermine the military justice process, and the judge , as well as the unbiased public understood this.

Response by COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM made Nov 8 at 2017 12:36 PM

2017-11-08T12:36:08-05:00

We are living in sad times when some Americans consider military heroes to be people like Chelsea Manning and Bowe Bergdahl. The former was tried, convicted, and sentenced to 35 years which was commuted to 7 years by President Obama. Manning then goes out to receive an honorary position from an Ivy League School and protests outside the White House regarding President Trump's LBGT decision. The latter was tried, convicted, and sentenced to time served, reduction in rank, forfeiture of pay, and a dishonorable discharge. Both should be in prison today at a minimum, let alone being celebrated by some Americans as heroes.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2017 12:37 PM

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Understand that he spent time in captivity and they were brutal conditions. He experienced this because he CHOSE to leave his post. He should have spent some more time as a guest of the government. I get it that he gets a dishonorable discharge but, too lenient in my view. In WW 2, he could have been shot.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Nov 8 at 2017 1:55 PM

2017-11-08T13:55:29-05:00

I'm waiting on his Twitter debut. He's the new Jane Fonda.

Response by PVT Raymond Lopez made Nov 8 at 2017 9:14 PM

2017-11-08T21:14:40-05:00

He wants to keep all his medals too!

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Nov 8 at 2017 9:21 PM

2017-11-08T21:21:38-05:00

I believe the trial judge wanted to take a slap at Trump for his comments about Bergdahl, and followed his emotions rather than the law.

Response by SGT Jim Humphrey made Nov 9 at 2017 12:31 AM

2017-11-09T00:31:08-05:00

Some dick will ghost write a book and make this idiot the champion of the left and a huge check. HE BELONGS IN JAIL

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2017 1:18 AM

2017-11-09T01:18:23-05:00

Maybe Bergdahl and Chelsea Manning can join forces and create a comedy team....Tranny and Coward Comedy Hour.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2017 1:39 AM

2017-11-09T01:39:59-05:00

Maybe a talk show.....The Missdventures of Tranny and Coward....Two former Army losers.

Response by SSG Michael Scott made Nov 9 at 2017 12:40 PM

2017-11-09T12:40:10-05:00

After all of the crap this country has gone through for this guy, and the 8 year long journey of crap, this waste of human flesh must be in prison. My heart goes out to the search teams of the two heroes who were injured in the search for this coward. Most of all, America does not negotiate with terroists. Therefore, Obama needs to be in jail too!

Response by SSG Vik Polivka made Nov 9 at 2017 12:43 PM

2017-11-09T12:43:44-05:00

Given the core values of the Army, the fact that we are all human, and that he was a Private who messed up...yeah, they do that...I think he's suffered enough due to his mistake. Also, the Dishonorable Discharge counts as a felony, so he's got that to deal with.

Blaming him for insurgents killing/injuring U.S. Soldiers? No, I'd blame the insurgents. As our enemy there isn't any real surprise. It's a war.

With senior officers raping subordinates, having affairs while overseas, and using tax payers money to pay for it, etc...beating a dead horse, about a Private screwing up, is overkill.

Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Nov 9 at 2017 1:47 PM

2017-11-09T13:47:49-05:00

Just keeps getting better.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/11/08/army-to-determine-if-bergdahl-is-owed-back-pay-for-his-time-in-captivity/

Army to determine if Bergdahl is owed back pay for his time in captivity

When Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl came home in 2014, he was potentially entitled to hundreds of thousands of dollars in pay that accumulated over five years while he was in Taliban captivity in Afghanistan.

Response by PVT Iven Clark Jr. made Nov 9 at 2017 3:43 PM

2017-11-09T15:43:12-05:00

Desertion during deployment should have landed Bergdahl in the grave. What he got wasn't even a slap on the wrist.

Response by Sgt William Curtis made Nov 9 at 2017 4:06 PM

2017-11-09T16:06:44-05:00

e is a coward, and deserted his post in wartime, and should be executed by firing squad

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Nov 9 at 2017 7:15 PM

2017-11-09T19:15:14-05:00

We're already seeing ripples from this. A mitigating factor in the lack of jail time for Berghdal was undue influence as a result of comments made by the POTUS. Now, less than a week later, we have another case (I'm sure a lot of you remember this case) being overturned for undue influence as well.. I suspect this is going to become a recurring theme if lessons aren't learned quickly...

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/11/09/court-overturns-conviction-of-marine-urinated-taliban-corpses.html

Court Overturns Conviction of Marine Who Urinated on Taliban Corpses

The conviction of a former Marine Corps scout sniper involved in desecrating the bodies of enemy fighters has been overturned.

Response by PO3 Grant Skiles made Nov 10 at 2017 11:01 AM

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If I can use one word...DISGRACEFUL. The whole military and all of its values and beliefs were just stepped on and thrown to the wind. The Judge in this case needs to step down. Hr needs to have a BAD fir report on his next report. I also would recommend that both men have to spend one hour a day with the one soldier who is paralyzed for the rest of his life for the rest of their lives. They can help his wife feed, wash, cloth and just talk to him giving her a couple hours each day to TRY to relax. Now his lawyer is asking for back pay. I say no to him but award this money to the families that had soldiers die or were hurt. this would be much needed money for financial bills. Nothing will ever bring them back nor make him walk again.

Response by PFC Flor Gomez made Nov 10 at 2017 12:11 PM

2017-11-10T12:11:55-05:00

Well I'm in complete disbelief sure gives new goals for the ARMY to persue now and work double time to "UNF***" the damage this judge has caused by not having the courage to do what needed to be done. Starting with Firing his ASS!!! Everyone is held to standard, EVERYONE!...including him.

Response by SP5 Richard J Jones made Nov 10 at 2017 3:10 PM

2017-11-10T15:10:10-05:00

It's beyond sad that the brass in charge doesn't see it your way, Major. I do. I think 14 years is too little time for all the misery this "goldbrick/coward" caused many decent, stalwart comrades-in-arms.

Response by SGT Bryan O'Reilly made Nov 10 at 2017 4:35 PM

2017-11-10T16:35:23-05:00

"Be, all that you can be-, Manning, Bergdahl. As you were, buttknuckles!- Keep on reaching, keep on growing .."

Response by Cpl Scott McCarroll made Nov 10 at 2017 4:56 PM

2017-11-10T16:56:06-05:00

This is from Article 85 from the Manual for Court Marshall
c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any o t h e r t i m e , b y s u c h p u n i s h m e n t , o t h e r t h a n death, as a court-martial may direct.
This is why he plead guilty I think had he not that an investigation would have shown that he gave aid to the enemy, how else do you explain that he seems from most accounts I have read to have been in pretty good shape. And with things I am seeing on the net about O'Bama, well I'll leave that rant for another day

Response by 1st Lt Vh Benedict made Nov 11 at 2017 8:32 AM

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Isn’t it possible there are unknown circumstances...such as, Bergdahl May have covertly volunteered to (undercover) spy? Were that to be so, would he then qualify for extenuating circumstances in his sentencing?

Response by TSgt J.L. Brown Jr made Nov 12 at 2017 3:07 AM

2017-11-12T03:07:09-05:00

yep now they will think they can walk off any time, sad, angry

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Nov 12 at 2017 9:40 AM

2017-11-12T09:40:17-05:00

This sends a negative message.

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Nov 13 at 2017 8:24 PM

2017-11-13T20:24:36-05:00

Send his sorry ass to Kim the 3rd in North Korea. He will fit in and be celebrated as a hero there.... Sad that the Army judicial system has become very liberal.

Response by SPC David Willis made Nov 14 at 2017 5:31 PM

2017-11-14T17:31:25-05:00

What upsets me the most is there are guys I served with who did their time and did it right while deployed, but got home and caught a DUI or smoked some weed and in the end got the same punishment as this dude got. Now I'm not saying DUIs and drugs have any place in the military, they clearly don't. But they don't rate even close to the same punishment as desertion during time of war.

Response by SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter made Nov 16 at 2017 9:44 AM

2017-11-16T09:44:49-05:00

Well he is a disgrace to all that have ever honorably worn the uniform!

Response by SSgt Harvey "Skip" Porter made Nov 16 at 2017 9:46 AM

2017-11-16T09:46:45-05:00

He is a disgrace to all that have ever honorably worn the uniform! What a coward of a guy.

Response by SPC Dave Loeffler made Nov 16 at 2017 9:49 AM

2017-11-16T09:49:59-05:00

The sentence is a disgrace and insults every individual ever killed or wounded in combat for doing his or her duty!

Response by SFC Jim Dorsey made Nov 16 at 2017 5:35 PM

2017-11-16T17:35:23-05:00

Truly a travesty! And now this dumass is trying to get back pay! I am heartbroken.

Response by 1LT A. Hays Town III JD made Nov 17 at 2017 4:21 PM

2017-11-17T16:21:47-05:00

While we all bemoan the sanction pronounced. It still has to be approved by the convening authority prior to the appeals are allowed. As the convening authority may reject it, and send it back for resentencing or he may modify it. So, the "fat lady has not sung yet"

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Nov 17 at 2017 6:39 PM

2017-11-17T18:39:51-05:00

He should have been shot

Response by MSgt John McGowan made Nov 17 at 2017 9:30 PM

2017-11-17T21:30:57-05:00

Major. Sir, very well written piece. I do agree with you. I think this PC world now is changing people’s opinion of what is O K and what is not. Did he get his back pay? And a Federal Judge made a ruling that effects all of the military. Makes me wonder what is next!

Response by SFC William Farrell made Nov 19 at 2017 12:27 AM

2017-11-19T00:27:24-05:00

His father belongs in that lineup MAJ Montgomery Granger. Obama should be embarrassed.

Response by CMSgt Peter McDermott made Nov 21 at 2017 6:18 AM

2017-11-21T06:18:38-05:00

Many of us are sickened by this act and even more sickened by the results of the court. He must have given them something very valuable to have this happen. No honor with trading 5 enemy military commanders and risk countless lives to rescue a single man who walked away from his post because he chose to. No rational thought would come out to this end. 6 men lost their lives, and many others injured trying to find him. How many of our men and women have died at the hands of these 5 Enemy Commanders since their release? How many refuse to ask these questions of our leaders? Just as has anyone asked where the billions that the last administration gave to Iran has been spent? Does anyone care. I am getting off track. What about the heros who died trying to find him and their families. This tells the world how weak we have become, yes many will take this as they can do whatever they choose to do. This also tells our enemies how weak we have become with political correctness etc. I am not trying to say the old ways are better. We must all grow with the times to stay ahead of the rest of the world, but this move served no future good but serves as a mockery to us all.

Response by SPC David Harrington made Nov 21 at 2017 8:51 PM

2017-11-21T20:51:29-05:00

This traitor will probably get hired by CNN soon.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2017 12:49 PM

2017-11-22T12:49:47-05:00

An excellent post Sir. Thank you for taking the time to write this thoughtful piece. Couldn't agree more with everything said.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2017 3:19 PM

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I think that had certain twitter superstars had kept their thumbs off the keyboard, we might have had at least the prison time that he needs. I do believe that had he pleaded not guilty, I would have been fine with a firing squad. Since he pled guilty, I thought that he would at least get some time. But instead, someone got involved and tainted the proceedings with command influence. That is how I see it. Anything other than what he got would have been fodder for the appeal that certainly was going to happen regardless of the sentence.

There is no secret that I'm not pleased with the current POTUS. But don't put me into the HC camp either.

Thoughtful comments welcomed. Trolls troll elsewhere.

Response by PO1 Robert Johnson made Nov 26 at 2017 3:10 PM

2017-11-26T15:10:34-05:00

Despicable is the only word I can use to describe Col. Nance's sentencing of Bergdahl. His decision slammed every single person who has served in one uniform or the other, some of whom have suffered grievous wounds and others made the ultimate sacrifice. Not to cast disparaging remarks about the Col., I don't know him or his record, but it seems to me that if he has ever been in the field in actual combat, he may have made a different call.

Response by Nicole Thomas made Nov 27 at 2017 10:00 PM

2017-11-27T22:00:51-05:00

I agree. JAG needs to let civilians know that there are codes of military justice that will be adhered to despite public opinion.
Do you want A Bergdahl or god forbid A Bradley Manning defending your home?

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2017 1:57 AM

2017-11-28T01:57:26-05:00

"Kneeling for the national anthem and the absence of even one American flag on the opening night of a national political convention are not simply warning signs, they are signs of the apocalypse that feed the idea that Bergdahl did nothing wrong."

I was mostly with you until that absolutely insane sentence. And moreover, since you weren't a part of the proceedings, it's more likely than not there are circumstances or information to which you're not privy. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.

Response by Sgt William Straub Jr. made Nov 28 at 2017 8:14 AM

2017-11-28T08:14:23-05:00

To me, the abdication of duty by the Court is nearly impossible to understand. There should have been a minimum of 15 years hard labor. Reduction in rank to E-1, and a Dishonorable Discharge. I'm embarrassed and angered by the decision. Aside from personal honor, what incentive is there for troops to carry out their assigned duties and obligations, particularly in a War Zone. Obviously, there is a politically correct component to this sentence, but the far-reaching results will be that all of us will pay for this.

Response by PO1 Vince Ruta made Nov 28 at 2017 11:03 AM

2017-11-28T11:03:13-05:00

You hit the nail square on the head!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2017 1:06 PM

2017-11-28T13:06:37-05:00

I don't question the judgment of the officer appointed over his court-martial and I think it's inappropriate to make assumptions about his case based on media sensationalism. Justice, military or otherwise shouldn't be politicized, either. I'm more worried about the politicization of our justice system than some stupid kid who spent years in captivity because he made some bad decisions when he was a private.

Response by Sgt Robert Mitzenheim made Nov 28 at 2017 4:34 PM

2017-11-28T16:34:17-05:00

I heartily agree with P03 John Jeter. I could not have said it better.

Response by Sgt Donald Chalfy made Nov 28 at 2017 5:42 PM

2017-11-28T17:42:39-05:00

I truly believe this is yet another travesty of justice and sets a dangerous precedent indeed. That precedent is that if a bleeding heart service member cries and whines hard enough, the authority of the UCMJ is usurped, the very foundation on what the Armed Forces is based on and, I dare say, our Nation's principles and identity is eroded with each incident that occurs. Bergdahl's Goat Rodeo of a trial has been far too politicized, public, and out of control. If one strips away all the peripheral bullshit and addresses the basic elements of his actions, which he admits to, this individual is guilty of desertion and misconduct before the enemy in time of war. He betrayed his unit, the Army, the very flag and country he made a sacred oath to defend. Article 85 of the UCMJ is clear on punishments that can be imposed in time of war as follows, "If the member deserts during time of war: Death or such other punishment (such as life in prison) as a court-martial may direct.", that said, there is no ambiguity here. It is when our government and Mother's of America start meddling in the affairs of the DoD, this farce tends to happen.

My opinion is clear on this issue. Bergdahl's sentence given the charges should have been life in prison, or death. Is that to harsh? Too bad. The UCMJ is clear and should have been adhered to in this Court Martial. I take no pleasure in this entry, rather, I feel irritated and saddened by what I perceive as a country that is losing its way and identity. We have to get back on top of things, or we are doomed to slide down a slippery slope into a state of weakness that is unsustainable as a sovereign nation, the United States of America.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Nov 29 at 2017 3:16 PM

2017-11-29T15:16:20-05:00

He should have been shot

Response by SSG Jim Lentz made Nov 29 at 2017 3:18 PM

2017-11-29T15:18:39-05:00

Even the 14 yrs the prosecution asked for was TOO short, but no time is a slap in the face to ALL of us who served Honorably. In my 20 years of active duty, I saw a lot of Soldiers, Sailors, and Marines get time for much less serious offences.

Response by SP5 Larry Morris made Dec 3 at 2017 6:23 PM

2017-12-03T18:23:52-05:00

he should be shot

Response by SPC Tom DeSmet made Dec 4 at 2017 1:41 AM

2017-12-04T01:41:25-05:00

Very, very, did I say VERY well presented reality check of....The Bowe Burgdahl debacle called a court martial, but completely void of anything resembling a trial by judge. (I can't compare this to any other trial than the OJ Simpson trial)
This "event" has been a kick in the groin to every service member who ever wore the uniform, and disrespects everyone who gave their life in the defense of our country. Thank you for putting pen to paper on this matter.....and Well Done!

Response by SP5 Larry Morris made Dec 4 at 2017 12:44 PM

2017-12-04T12:44:34-05:00

The break up of this country is well on it's way, one only has to look at the last years starting in the 90's with Bill Clinton and on. The left has been winning even if those on the right thinks they are a break down in schools and in peoples core of caring plus drugs and the list just goes on

Response by LTC Ken Bowers made Dec 6 at 2017 12:36 PM

2017-12-06T12:36:39-05:00

I'm coming to this topic late, but I have some brutal comments! Bergdahl is the poster child for everything that has been turned upside down and backwards in the armed services! His conduct brought about his captivity with the Taliban. The then Commander-in-Chief aggravated the problem by trading five hard-core Taliban leaders for him. Then "his" Generals provided the opening drama of an investigation did not open any new facts, and then they closed it with this shame of military justice. The military judge for this trial dumped on the Army, military justice, the soldiers who were involved in search missions, the families of those who suffered injuries during those search missions, and value of honorable military service. There was command influence for sure, but it was not by the current president. I have yet to hear as to the decision about the award of back-pay as of this writing. Should that come to pass he will be consumed by his guilt for his cowardice. For the generals that orchestrated this situation, and the judge that carried it out shame on you for you have done a great disservice to the nation, the US Armed Forces, and yourself!

Response by Cpl Bill Fleischauer made Dec 14 at 2017 5:22 PM

2017-12-14T17:22:27-05:00

Hell, he'll spend his remaining time looking over his shoulder
...and for good reason.

Response by Nicole Thomas made Jan 1 at 2018 9:47 PM

2018-01-01T21:47:14-05:00

I agree completely. Your writ it plain simple and true I have nothing to add.

Response by PO2 Everette Watts made Jan 11 at 2018 6:32 PM

2018-01-11T18:32:39-05:00

Whatever happened to shooting deserters? That is what should have happened. As far as I'm concerned he is a stone cold waste of oxygen.

Response by Maj Dale Smith made Jan 12 at 2018 3:43 PM

2018-01-12T15:43:37-05:00

Pvt Eddie Slovak would have loved the Bo Bergdahl deal.

Response by PO3 J.W. Nelson made Jan 15 at 2018 1:35 PM

2018-01-15T13:35:40-05:00

I personally think that the entire courts martial was a joke !! This man should have been appointed a military attorney like all other military members, should have been court martialed according the UCMJ without outside, civilian interference ! Then, maybe, just maybe we would have seen justice served, but by no means was this justice !!

Response by COL Steph Browne made Jan 17 at 2018 9:58 AM

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The military judge may impose a sentence based solely upon the charges of which the accused is adjudged guilty and the evidence heard during the case. In this case the accused was found guilty of a 1day desertion, it was not during a time of war as the current conflict, as all others since WWII have not been declared wars by Congress. There was evidence presented that he suffered from mental health issues when the Army enlisted him. There was evidence of 2other SMS being injured while hunting for him. There was evidence that, once returned, the accused provided invaluable information on the movements, etc. of the enemy which is still being used by our forces. Lastly, there was evidence of unlawful command influence by the Commander in Chief. Having served as a military judge, I can attest that the hardest part of the job is fashioning an appropriate sentence. We are all free to disagree with the sentence adjudged but we must recognize that COL Nance is a professional, well regarded officer and judge. He weighed the permissible factors and made a decision. You don’t have to like it but is lawful and the result of an application of the Rule of Law. Taking pot shots after the fact from the cheap seats benefits no one.

Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Jan 17 at 2018 1:03 PM

2018-01-17T13:03:43-05:00

That picture with this deserter's parents and that other Moslem (you know who) is highly offensive . Why is a standing president sitting in on this issue Because he was an ignorant ass who could never understand any idea of military or government service for that matter.

Much like photos of Bergdahl still wearing a rank and other marks of military service? which should have all been ripped off of his uniform. Or Manning , or et al.

Response by Cpl Bill Johnson made Jan 17 at 2018 11:33 PM

2018-01-17T23:33:08-05:00

Bergdahl was a deserter, not a traitor. Treason requires actions the t wow cause great harm to the United States. He was a off in an infantry unit. What kind of information did he have that would cause that kind of damage? Likely zero.

Brgdhal is screwed for life... as he deserves, but what is it that you want to do to him that would assuage your anger... because that is what th is is about. Your anger. Your feelings. Berghal is probably the least of your worries

Response by MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. made Jan 18 at 2018 11:05 AM

2018-01-18T11:05:55-05:00

Classic decline and fall. The unique melting pot that brought diverse peoples from all over the world and created the great nation that dominated world affairs in the 20th and early 21st centuries is fast fading. We have grown fat, dumb, happy, and selfish. Immigrants no longer assimilate. We are watching the destruction of our nation.

Response by SGT Randall Smith made Jan 19 at 2018 9:47 PM

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The Col. who was the trial judge might as well retire because he will go no higher. He will be passed over and kicked out. What he did was wrong and he knew it. His personal feelings should never have entered into his decision. But military or not, most attys are very liberal.

Response by PO2 Bobby Nolde made Jan 20 at 2018 10:45 AM

2018-01-20T10:45:30-05:00

This still pisses me off so much! The Judge should be throw out as well! I heard the Judge say that Bowe couldn't get a Fair Trial because Trump called him a Traitor! Which the SOB is! Trump was calling it as he seen it! And then his parents kissing Obama's ass was a disgrace! If he would've got 14 years it would've been in solitary confinement, cuz you know those guys would've taken him out! He deserved a Firing Squad! The families of the soldiers who died, got hurt should turn around and sue his ass for wrongful death!

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jan 20 at 2018 9:41 PM

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Not that I care about the deserter, I wonder how Bergdahl will support himself. Will he live in his parent's basement? Since I have not heard anything from him while the Army has sort of hid him away I wonder if he will start his own Youtube channel and his is infamous character that he's built up. This guy could be the next anti - war/government guy for many people who don't like the government or the military.

Response by SSgt Bruce Probert made Jan 21 at 2018 2:55 AM

2018-01-21T02:55:06-05:00

Major Granger wrote a well thought out and impassioned piece that I agree with nearly 100%. The danger we have is there are politicians who consider that the Constitution is an impediment to what they consider to be progress. We just came out from under a Commander in Chief that was an idiot who with his agenda and restrictive rules of engagement killed more soldiers than the enemy. It was he who declared the Iraq war lost before the surge turned things around. The five Taliban traded for Bergdahl was an outrage and shows the true colors of Barack Obama who had to have known that he was a deserter and still tried to sell it a worthwhile prisoner swap, even sending Susan Rice out to tell America how Bergdahl served with Honor and Distinction. I for one was insulted to my core. There is only one person responsible for this miscarriage of justice His name is Barack Hussein Obama his hatred for our brotherhood shows in everything he did.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2018 4:13 PM

2018-01-28T16:13:27-05:00

I wonder if you have reviewed all of the information presented at trial to form your conclusion or if you are just venting based on your hypothesis and a cursory understanding of the facts? The premise of your thesis is that PVT Bergdahl ran away (desertion?), yet in para 2 you stated “He was trying to make the world a better place”. Article 85 of the UCMJ is pretty clear about what desertion is, it involves both an act and an intent. PVT Bergdahl committed the act, but Is it possible he had “not intended” to stay away, avoid hazardous duty, or shirk important service. Are his actions odd, and different from the actions of millions of other veterans? Absolutely! But what if, in his own mind, he thought he was continuing to serve, and was attempting to save the lives of others by his actions? Is that selfless service? Is it impossible to believe that he thought “one man” could truly make a difference? Is that honor and dedication? Is it far-fetched? Would your opinion change? Just a thought.

Response by Cpl Billy Ashworth made Jan 28 at 2018 4:29 PM

2018-01-28T16:29:31-05:00

Bergdhal should stand in front of a FIREING squad

Response by SSgt Dean Gartman made Feb 2 at 2018 2:37 PM

2018-02-02T14:37:01-05:00

Poor excuse for justice. Should at least spend the rest of his life in Levenworth. Penalty should have been Death. Men died trying to rescue him cut and dried.

Response by SPC Larry Weigel Jr. made Feb 2 at 2018 3:43 PM

2018-02-02T15:43:10-05:00

Political pressure, pure and simple. One of the things I thought was a core value, they said so in BCT, was discipline. Vital for missions, teamwork and order. Guess that got tossed out when the "stressed out cards" were brought in! He brought all that crap on himself when he walked off his post and gets rewarded for it!! What discipline?!?

Response by FA Donald Pickard made Feb 7 at 2018 11:39 AM

2018-02-07T11:39:02-05:00

It wouldn't do him any good to walk in front of me

Response by SFC Mark Bailey made Feb 8 at 2018 12:52 PM

2018-02-08T12:52:03-05:00

Absolutely correct on all counts

The Presiding Judge abdicated not only his ability to enforce a very simple rule of war;
"run from combat and suffer the consequences."

This was politically motivated and now we all suffer from this stupid decision...and for what it is worth. I really dont care if they beat him wet noodles or barbed wire... he put himself in that position and that decision carried its own weight.

Add this scumbag to the PVT Manning who sold secrets and was then pardoned in another misguided liberal attempt to sway how the Military works... and we have a lasting legacy of shame that will never truly go away.

Response by Cpl Bill Fleischauer made Feb 15 at 2018 10:58 PM

2018-02-15T22:58:49-05:00

I look forward to crossing paths with some
...but relish meeting others

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2018 3:07 AM

2018-02-16T03:07:32-05:00

Agreed

Response by SFC Joseph McCausland made Feb 18 at 2018 6:40 PM

2018-02-18T18:40:28-05:00

Sir, Thank you for the update but I am afraid that just like the exoneration of "Crooked Hillary" the fix was in with Bergdahl as well. After-all, we couldn't have this young man sentenced to 15 years behind bars after Obama and the First Lady so lovingly hosted his parents in the rose garden.

I don't know who this Nance character is, but coming up with a sentence of time served after all the evidence was presented, makes me believe it's time for him to submit his retirement papers.

I don't wish ill on anyone, but in Bergdahl's case, I just wish the "universe" return to him what his actions caused others.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Feb 23 at 2018 6:53 PM

2018-02-23T18:53:26-05:00

If this deserter is so depressed and disappointed in himself who is responsible for him, he sounds like another mass murderer waiting to happen?

Response by COL Jon Lopey made Feb 26 at 2018 12:52 PM

2018-02-26T12:52:21-05:00

MAJ Granger: Nice summary and some very compelling arguments. Unfortunately, the military has always had deserters but we haven't talked about it much. During the Viet Nam Era, I worked in the Base Deserter Section at Camp Pendleton. We had over 6,000 case files, mostly from that era, mostly new Marines who deserted after taking leave after initial basic training or advanced training. Berghdahl was different to me because he deserted his fellow Airborne Troopers while in a combat zone. Anyone serving in OEF or OIF knows that it is absolutely unheard of and totally insane to leave a firebase and venture off into the countryside without your weapon, gear, and certainly while unauthorized to do so. This is a violation of General Order 1 and while we don't have all of the facts, it is certainly likely that brave men and women died and were maimed attempting to save him. While I have grave reservations about the lenient sentence, the whole affair has been political, even if the Army attempted not to make it so. Although justice may not have been served, the Dishonorable Discharge and the presumed denial of pay and benefits during the time within which he was captured and the other penalties like the reduction in grade to private and the withdrawal of his airborne wings and CIB will serve as a dark mark on his life and record that will follow him for the rest of his life. His weak and lame excuse that he had concerns about the leadership is also troubling and ridiculous. There are other positive ways to express concerns about issues in your chain-of-command and as Soldiers or other service members, we have an obligation to be professional and lead by example, not to run away because we don't like our superiors. I have always been in units with service members who may not have lived up to my expectations but overall, we had NCOs and officers who did the job, did it well, and I witnessed incredible courage, commitment, honor, and leadership in OIF and OEF consistently and in nearly all engagements. Even during Viet Nam War when I had to work with deserters every week being returned to Camp Pendleton, their poor judgment and actions did not appreciably diminish the incredible accomplishments of the fine Marines with whom I served and despite them, the Marine Corps was a great organization overall. The Army did well in every mission I took part in and despite men who fail and despite men who fail us, their nation, their service and in this case, the Airborne, we have prevailed and defeated the enemy continuously in the vast majority of instances. I have disdain for Mr. Bergdahl but I also have pity for him because he had an opportunity to serve in the best Army and combat force we have every had - He got the opportunity to wear an Airborne Tab, Airborne Wings, and a CIB and, he wore the combat patch in a respected and revered uniform of our Army - and than of an elite unit. He quit his Army, he quit his nation, he quit his unit, and he quit his buddies - the same Soldiers who risked their lives to find him and would have laid down their lives in any situation in combat. The verdict is in and I'll accept it but Bergdahl, most of all, has to live with himself and his failures. He violated his oath and our flag, and all that it represents (including the people of our nation) while he may get sympathy from some in our society, the "warrior class" we all belong to will give him no such support and to me, he will forever reside in a prison that I personally would not want to visit for even one moment. Thank you for listening.....Jon

Response by Cpl Scott McCarroll made Feb 26 at 2018 12:52 PM

2018-02-26T12:52:55-05:00

You know, what I find treasonous is the FACT that he was still alive to be traded. This in a country where they take great pleasure publicly beheading those who oppose them. What did he give them. And just another thought, who and how was this trade formed. I don't think they go out and say "Oh by the way, we have this POS and he's given us all the information he has so you can have him back, however we want more so send 5 of our friends back and you can get him really none the worse for wear." Something stinks here and it's not the latrine. I don't think President Trump didn't voice anything that was felt by the majority of those in any service, well except for the judge. So as we move on what can we do to insure that this doesn't happen again. I have meet a young man on Facebook who I really have nothing in common with but who I am taking the time to talk with. He's in a single parent (his mom) family and really doesn't have a male figure in his life. I don't know that I can give the best advice, however I do give him my HONEST opinion. I think that is all any of us can do.

Response by SGT Michael Mckee made Mar 1 at 2018 2:04 PM

2018-03-01T14:04:06-05:00

Treasonous piece of Islamic fecal matter..the karma bus is going to back up over this..boy..when he least expects it. I only hope I am present when it does. Stay alert, stay alive brothers and sisters, never forget who we are..and who we are not. (Deserters)

Response by SFC George Sease made Mar 2 at 2018 12:20 PM

2018-03-02T12:20:35-05:00

Bergdahl is a POS. He should have received a firing squad.

Response by PO1 James White made Mar 2 at 2018 10:40 PM

2018-03-02T22:40:12-05:00

He should have been given a blindfold, a cigarette, and then put up against a wall and shot by a firing squad consisting of members of his unit.

Response by SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) made Mar 7 at 2018 2:08 PM

2018-03-07T14:08:58-05:00

When he walked away from his post, he deliberately sought out the Taliban so he could join them.

During his stay with the Taliban, he converted to Islam and declared himself a “mujahid.”

It took some time before charges were even brought against the little shitbag, since Obama treated him like a pet to advance his political agenda.

While on military duty in Afghanistan, Bowe Bergdhal left his gear in a nice neat little pile along with a note that explained he was running away. He willfully collaborated with the enemy and declared himself ‘mujahid’ and allegiance to Islamic jihad. The attacks his unit endured got more methodical and preciseafter Bergdahl’s desertion.

Six Soldiers were killed looking for his worthless ass. Barky traded five of the worst muzzie cutthroats at GITMO for this piece of shit.

They should have left him with the Taliban. They should have considered him an enemy combatant and killed him on the battlefield.

Barring that, he should be taken out and shot.

The presiding judge Col. Jeffery Nance, should be tossed off the bench. He trivialized Bergdahl’s cowardice and treason by giving him a fucking slap on the wrist.

Response by SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) made Mar 7 at 2018 2:09 PM

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Response by PO3 Tom Clouser made Mar 10 at 2018 12:01 PM

2018-03-10T12:01:44-05:00

The info we DON"T have is this: Was Bergdahl acting under secret CIA orders? Remember that he DID provide valuable intel upon his debriefing. And also remember the state of the VA. Our politicians routinely ask for volunteers and then throw us in the meat grinder without support. (just look at the VA again.) it IS possible that the CIA recruited him for this special Op and then abandoned him. (probably not LIKELY, but still...) Look at Benghazi: where an Admiral was relieved of duty for ordering his Task Group to aid the 4 soldiers who were defending the Embassy. an ADMIRAL was relieved of duty for doing the right thing! Look at the FBI and all their "terrorist sting operations", where the FBI recruits people , trains them, provides them with weapons, bombs, etc... and then let those people commit terrorist acts so the FBI can follow them to bigger fish. I'm just saying that our politicians and spy groups have a track record of recruiting grunts to do the dirty work, and then hanging them out to dry on their own. IF this was a CIA op, then the wrong person was on trial, and Bergdahl was hung out to dry. But, that's a BIG IF. And it's an IF that wouldn't be declassified for at least 50 years, so WE may never know the truth...

Response by Capt Christian D. Orr made Mar 13 at 2018 4:15 PM

2018-03-13T16:15:03-04:00

A total travesty of justice. Political correctness has hijacked our Armed Forces.

Response by CW4 Jim Webb made Mar 21 at 2018 12:42 PM

2018-03-21T12:42:49-04:00

Could not have said it better.

Response by Cpl Benjamin Weston made Mar 21 at 2018 2:03 PM

2018-03-21T14:03:38-04:00

he deserted in a theater of combat..... he should be shot....

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Mar 21 at 2018 5:30 PM

2018-03-21T17:30:28-04:00

This guy is an authentic POS as is the CiC that allowed the trade and ultimate BS "punishment" for the worthless human being. He should be eliminated.

Response by SGT Chas Brothers made Mar 25 at 2018 8:02 AM

2018-03-25T08:02:01-04:00

This "man" did nothing different than Pvt. Eddie Slovik did in WWII. Slovik was executed by firing squad on an order signed off on by Eisenhower. Since when did the Army get so tender hearted? Men died, good men, looking for this traitor. That Colonel's verdict needs to be set aside by a higher ruling authority and this case retried by a military tribunal. You cannot just get up and leave your post or fellow Americans just because you don't want to be a soldier anymore! You should have sucked it up, or at the very least seen the chaplain. He deserted his men, left his post, got taliban scum released for his sorry excuse of a traitor and got off with a slap on the wrist. Only in America does stuff like this happen. Now, discipline may be hard to enforce now that a new line in the sand has been drawn. If they punish the next soldier harder, their counsel will cite this case like it was the Holy Grail! If he doesn't want to be with his American Army protecting this country it's as good as renouncing citizenship in my book. Have him pick a country and deliver him there! Keep him out of the USA!

Response by SGT Rick Myers made Mar 30 at 2018 5:41 PM

2018-03-30T17:41:53-04:00

He should’ve been hung!!!

Response by Jerry Rivas made Apr 2 at 2018 7:57 PM

2018-04-02T19:57:36-04:00

The little douchebag should be shot.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Apr 3 at 2018 2:25 PM

2018-04-03T14:25:42-04:00

This is the way of contemporary society and a balancing force is ROTC in every high school across the Nation. We Veterans pass to the upcoming generations a knowledge and appreciation of American History, Ethics and Politics...even to teach cursive writing. Whatever is not taught in schools or home, ROTC will teach it. Remember yesterday but prepare for tomorrow.

Response by MSgt Horace Smith made Apr 8 at 2018 4:54 PM

2018-04-08T16:54:14-04:00

The whole affair stinks to high heavens. Bergdahl deserted and good men died trying to save a Soldier they thought had been kidnapped while doing his duty. I firmly believe that President Obama made a political decision as he seized the opportunity to release five really bad Muslim actors from GITMO in order to get Bergdahl returned. In fact, it's my opinion that Obama's administration turned a clear cut case of desertion into a political circus. It indeed sets a horrible precedence.

It would have been appropriate to stand Bergdahl against a wall and shoot him. He deserved it more than Pvt Eddie Slovak, the last Soldier to be executed by firing squad during WW2. IMO the least acceptable punishment was life in Leavenworth without parole.

Response by PO2 David Allender made Apr 14 at 2018 9:32 PM

2018-04-14T21:32:04-04:00

May GOD help us all. The military system has failed just as the judicial system for civilians. In this day and age people can get away with things. It is the fault of those responsible for enforcing the systems. What can be done to prevent a repeat? Only the Judge Advocate General can do something, but what is his opinion on this case? Will he do something to prevent this from happening again? Time will tell. It was once said, by Ariel Durant, "A great nation is not conquered from without until it has been destroyed from within." I sincerely hope that this is not the case for the United States, but I seriously wonder with our CIC and the Republican Party today. I feel that there is no hope for our country right now unless people get out and vote this coming November to get rid of Republicans. I do not endorse Democrats, who to me, are just as bad. I always vote independent. I hope some other will also.

Response by SSG Russell Schultz made Apr 16 at 2018 11:19 PM

2018-04-16T23:19:34-04:00

There are no words. This is what we have bought upon ourselves. Let one go free, they all go free. My thoughts go out to the families that lost a son, a father,sister, mom or daughter. Though retired, I still serve proudly and back out entire fighting force abd will be with them always. Never leave a warrior behind. Ever.

Response by SPC Steve Willis, PhD made Apr 17 at 2018 4:57 PM

2018-04-17T16:57:36-04:00

What Major Granger said!

Response by SSG Ricky Johnson made Apr 17 at 2018 8:49 PM

2018-04-17T20:49:01-04:00

I cannot believe this. Could the fact that the then CinC made him out to be a hero? The cost of life trying to “rescue” him, should have been a bullet at the end of a firing squad. The presedence has been set.

Response by CWO2 James Mathews made Apr 18 at 2018 5:27 PM

2018-04-18T17:27:20-04:00

The information surrounding this action has been so varied, and so carefully trimmed and colored by the current press arguments for political advantage, that it would be difficult to render any specific concern. However, were I to rely on the testament of the man's own platoon and company Officer's, NCO's, and comrades, (which I am bound to do, since I believe they would not lie), I would have to say that in other similar cases the punishment would have been much more severe. In an earlier time, such actions with such feeble excuses for those actions would have resulted in much less hoopla and a more military conclusion. I would have to agree that whatever military officer was in charge of the trial, as well as those mandating a punishment have caved-in to political considerations, which to my mind is totally wrong!

Response by CPT Tony Baucom made Apr 20 at 2018 8:52 AM

2018-04-20T08:52:53-04:00

I don’t know the presiding officer in this case so won’t make a judgment on his ruling. I do know that there was likely many factors that inserted themselves into this highly public case. We need to honor the decision no matter how untenable and unfair it is. That is how we operate and must in order to remain the worlds greatest fighting force.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Apr 20 at 2018 9:40 AM

2018-04-20T09:40:22-04:00

I am not sure if it was mentioned but PVT Birdcrap was in the Coast Guard for 26 days before he was released by mental instability problems and then the Army took him.

Response by SP5 Ed Schratwieser made Apr 22 at 2018 3:18 PM

2018-04-22T15:18:48-04:00

Well said.

Response by SFC Theodore Walker made Apr 22 at 2018 9:27 PM

2018-04-22T21:27:32-04:00

I am very upset with the presiding officer. One can only hope that West Point does not advocate this lack of Military Honor and Justice.

Response by SSgt James Holt made Apr 23 at 2018 4:47 PM

2018-04-23T16:47:44-04:00

I am certain this decision of the Judge Advocate General Presiding Officer is an example of undue command influence. Bergdahl plead guilty! Guilty to all charges and specifications? His perfidious self-serving abandonment of his Oath of Enlistment endangered the men of his unit. Several were if I recall correctly were seriously wounded hunting for him on the assumption that he'd been abducted while on duty. The unit did what any US military unit, under those circumstances, would do and that was try to rescue a missing brother. The missing brother, in this case, had turned his back on, duty on loyalty, on his brothers, and his country. His actions might be partially mitigated by the mental state beyond his control but so far as I know nothing of that potential mitigation was offered in court and so absent that partial defense he should have faced the maximum penalty allowed under the UCMJ.

Response by CPT Don Kemp made Apr 23 at 2018 8:20 PM

2018-04-23T20:20:39-04:00

The greater harm was done by the Commander in Chief who made the military laughing stock with this.

Response by SFC Tony Bennett made Apr 25 at 2018 1:21 AM

2018-04-25T01:21:28-04:00

There's nothing more that needs be said, YOU NAILED IT. That POS should have faced a firing squad plain and simple. But maybe there's a movement to LOWER the standards of conduct for the military as has been done for the police.....slaps on the wrist for even the most egregious behavior.

Response by 1stSgt Mack Housman made Apr 26 at 2018 7:23 PM

2018-04-26T19:23:35-04:00

Don't have many words for Bergdahl. He was a coward and deserter. Who should meet his end by firing squad. END OF STORY!!!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 11:53 AM

2018-05-02T11:53:03-04:00

He got off easy and now we will have to here about it through the corrupt media of Fox and CNN.

Response by SPC Jimmy Mclellan made May 7 at 2018 6:50 PM

2018-05-07T18:50:51-04:00

I for one say this pos should have been executed end of story

Response by TSgt David Carrasco made May 10 at 2018 7:44 PM

2018-05-10T19:44:13-04:00

I as Commander for the "POW/MIA/KIA Honor Guard" mentioned this deserter during each and every ceremony that we held. I even posted his picture at our Memorial so that anyone passing by would see his picture and not forget him. It was indeed a blow to me personally when the truth finally broke out. This piece of crap should have served the max jail time followed with a Dishonorable.

Response by Cpl Gabriel F. made May 10 at 2018 8:01 PM

2018-05-10T20:01:37-04:00

Bone rattling interrogation of this disgrace for as many years needed to get at the truth.
The sentence was ordered not to fit the crime. Why ?

Response by PO2 Jason Arcudi made May 13 at 2018 4:08 PM

2018-05-13T16:08:56-04:00

He Definetly will never enter the gates of Valhalla even if they did give him the death penalty. But regardless that POS needs to stand in front of a firing squad. All those lives lost and the all the families affected for what being busted down in rank and a dishonorable discharge? Hell no he needs to pay the ultimats price, desertion/treason= DEATH.

Response by Lt Col George Roll made May 17 at 2018 4:23 PM

2018-05-17T16:23:37-04:00

It it is a disservice to all who have served honorably to allow Birgdal to ever leave confinement. He richly deserved a life impisonment sentence.
I wonder if the Military Judge ever served in combat ( not as a lawyer advising a commander on the rules of engagement but as a direct combatant under enemy fire)

Response by Jerry Rivas made May 18 at 2018 4:04 PM

2018-05-18T16:04:11-04:00

Send him back to the Taliban.

Response by MSG Danny Mathers made May 18 at 2018 5:02 PM

2018-05-18T17:02:36-04:00

There are always mitigating circumstances which are considered in sentencing. The dirty little secret in Bergdahl's case was he spent five years of being sexually abused; That is what the Islamist do to Infidels. First they beat the crap out of them, then rape and torture until mentally broken. He was their "ho" for the entire time he was captured. It is easy to armchair the results of a sentence. I believe he got what he deserved as being a marked man the rest of his life. Who would hire him? Who are his friend? Probably none. He only has his family for the short term. He will have a lonely life unless something happens. He will carry his personal prison the rest of his life. Opinions vary....

Response by Lt Col George Roll made May 18 at 2018 8:35 PM

2018-05-18T20:35:13-04:00

Apparently Major Granger wrote exactly the same words in his post that I did in mine. My post writen yesterday or the day before is Identical word for word. Maybe great minds do think in the same way.
Ltc. George N Roll USAF Ret.

Response by SP5 Joe West made May 22 at 2018 3:42 PM

2018-05-22T15:42:26-04:00

Don't know about Bergdahl, but the Colonel who imposed this sentence should be reduced in rank to Private E-1. Even E-1's know the penalty for deserting in the face of the enemy. Time served? REALLY???????

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made May 28 at 2018 6:30 PM

2018-05-28T18:30:57-04:00

He may even run for congress like Chelsea Manning.. dirtbag

Response by 1stSgt Edward Jackson made Jun 6 at 2018 8:49 AM

2018-06-06T08:49:28-04:00

During WWII, desertion in the face of the enemy could get you facing a firing squad. Just 1 service member, Pvt Eddie Slovik, got that faith, and he deserved it. There were 48 others sentenced to death, but their sentences were commuted.

During the Revolutionary War, even General Washington ordered deserters shot by firing squad and he ordered that it be done in front of other troops.

Bergdahl got off with little more than a slap on the wrist. I feel Obama interfered with the Bergdahl case and not only influenced, but actually ordered the sentence.

Response by CPT Wes Marsh made Jun 8 at 2018 12:05 PM

2018-06-08T12:05:07-04:00

Seems CNN is all set to get another military advisor and analyst in their employ.

Response by SPC Charles Keiser made Jun 17 at 2018 8:32 AM

2018-06-17T08:32:05-04:00

The judge that handed down the sentense must live in Petticoat Junction , candy ass !

Response by CPL Logan Cox made Jun 20 at 2018 3:04 AM

2018-06-20T03:04:26-04:00

Sad day when he gets to just walk

Response by SGT Louie Santana made Jun 20 at 2018 12:30 PM

2018-06-20T12:30:38-04:00

Basically that dude is a scum bag and a traitor. I’m sure everyone wanted an example made of him. But we didn’t get that, it seems like nothing more that a slap on the wrist to be at fault for the death of fellow soldiers.

Response by SSgt Wally R made Jun 25 at 2018 7:03 PM

2018-06-25T19:03:44-04:00

I thought traitors were executed? that's what he deserves.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2018 8:28 AM

2018-07-02T08:28:36-04:00

As a former bailiff on his trial I can say that he did not for one minute regret the choices he made and have any empathy to the families he destroyed. It was a complete slap in the face to all who put on a military uniform and serve with honor.

Response by SPC Jake Barton made Jul 3 at 2018 3:30 PM

2018-07-03T15:30:25-04:00

I just want to say I cannot believe that he is still breathing.

Response by SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) made Jul 18 at 2018 6:49 PM

2018-07-18T18:49:19-04:00

You are absolutely correct.
When he walked away from his post, he deliberately sought out the Taliban so he could join them.
During his stay with the Taliban, he converted to Islam and declared himself a “mujahid.”
It took some time before charges were even brought against the little shitbag, since Obama treated him like a pet to advance his political agenda.
While on military duty in Afghanistan, Bowe Bergdahl left his gear in a nice neat little pile along with a note that explained he was running away. He willfully collaborated with the enemy and declared himself ‘mujahid’ and allegiance to Islamic jihad. The attacks his unit endured got more methodical and precise after Bergdahl’s desertion.
Six Soldiers were killed looking for his worthless ass. Barky traded five of the worst muzzie cutthroats at GITMO for this piece of crap.
They should have left him with the Taliban. They should have considered him an enemy combatant and killed him on the battlefield.
Barring that, he should be taken out and shot.
The presiding judge Col. Jeffery Nance, should be tossed off the bench. He trivialized Bergdahl’s cowardice and treason by giving him a slap on the wrist.

Response by PO1 Jeffrey Pennala made Jul 23 at 2018 8:49 AM

2018-07-23T08:49:06-04:00

The man is a head case, it happens. I am pretty sure everyone can figure out that deserting isn't a smart thing to do, especially when they see how universally hated this person is now. I don't want someone like that serving next to me. So what would the purpose be of killing the guy? Is locking him up for more time going to serve any purpose? His life is already screwed up for as long as he lives. Do you really think the lower ranks are talking about how Bergdahl got over on the system and all the great things that could happen if they desert too?

Like I said he is a head case, I am sure he was showing signs of being mentally screwed up before he was deployed. He probably should have been looked at in that regard before he got there. We had a Marine Sgt. on my ship who was wigging out a lot of the time and told folks he was going home, he jumped off the ship at night and tried to swim home to North Carolina, screwed up morale for a while. I think we need to weed these people out ahead of time and leave them behind until they can get their heads together or show them the door.

Everybody is all angry about Bergdahl getting off easy, there aint anything easy left to his life, I wouldn't trade places with him for anything. The officers and senior NCO's over him should have been aware he wasn't stable at times and taken action to prevent these types of "morale sucking incidents" before they happen. The decisions brass hats in DC made afterward is above my pay grade. I'd rather go into battle a man short than have the burden of an unstable nut job serving next to me.....just sayin'

Response by 1SG Dale Cantrell made Jul 26 at 2018 10:24 PM

2018-07-26T22:24:31-04:00

My recommendation would be a firing squad, but if not approved, a Dishonorable Discharge and reduced to lowest rank , will do, Carry on, continue mission

Response by PO1 David M Burns made Jul 27 at 2018 3:28 AM

2018-07-27T03:28:34-04:00

Some of you may remember lt Kelly,garwood,and the son of a bitch carter who let them off! And the cowardly army folded to the politicians!

Response by 1SG Dale Cantrell made Jul 27 at 2018 5:41 PM

2018-07-27T17:41:01-04:00

Just saying , as an enlisted troop some young troops screw up bad, as an NCO, he should be executed

Response by SGT Rich Levesque made Jul 31 at 2018 9:57 AM

2018-07-31T09:57:37-04:00

Yes Sir. Right on the nose Major.

Response by PFC Scotty Steele made Aug 8 at 2018 4:45 AM

2018-08-08T04:45:05-04:00

Five enemy leaders for one sergeant?

Response by SSG Owen Kingsley made Aug 9 at 2018 12:26 PM

2018-08-09T12:26:07-04:00

I totally agree. Bergdahl deserted his post without regard to others. Since President Obama traded 5 big terrorists for him (who should’ve either rotted in the enemies prison or was placed under the maximum penalty, death in this case) but the bleeding hearts of being political correct and not following the UCMJ won in this case a slapped the rest of the military in the face.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 12 at 2018 2:19 AM

2018-08-12T02:19:24-04:00

This case reminds me of the only Soldier shot for desertion during WWII. Ironically Pvt Slovak, although charged, tried, convicted, n shot for desertion was in essence not a true deserter but a young confused Soldier who’s leadership had failed him. He was made an example of to others as to what happens for desertion. Two or three weeks later the war with Germany ended. He was the only Soldier Officially Shot for desertion.

Response by SGT Ann Gardner made Aug 12 at 2018 9:20 AM

2018-08-12T09:20:25-04:00

Disgusting!!! Lives were lost because of his stupidity and very inferior morals and overall weakness as a human being. I agree he should spend many years incarcerated for manslaughter and treason. Scum!!!

Response by Sgt Larry Dillon made Aug 14 at 2018 5:01 PM

2018-08-14T17:01:38-04:00

Should have executed the POS

Response by Sgt Larry Dillon made Aug 14 at 2018 5:03 PM

2018-08-14T17:03:12-04:00

Should have executed the POS

Response by Steve Zielinski made Aug 22 at 2018 7:21 AM

2018-08-22T07:21:00-04:00

Bergdahl DISGRACED America, so his dishonorable discharge papers should read "under disgraceful conditions."

Response by SPC Donn Sinclair made Aug 24 at 2018 6:42 AM

2018-08-24T06:42:55-04:00

Correct me if I'm wrong, Pvt. Eddie Slovik was executed for less. Down the road, after the dust settles, I'll wager Bergdahl will appeal for an upgraded discharge, (his attorney will site his "honorable service" prior to this incident). Hope I'm wrong, but don't be surprised to see him at a VA hospital some day soon.

Response by SSgt Kenneth Watterson made Aug 27 at 2018 4:12 PM

2018-08-27T16:12:36-04:00

All things considered, I believe he should have been given prison time for desertion and going over to the enemy.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Sep 11 at 2018 2:30 AM

2018-09-11T02:30:40-04:00

What is the US ARMY judical system coming to? Berghdal deserted his post, his unit and comrades and the US ARMY. So he spent five years as a guest of the Taliban/Al Quida. He was traded for five Taliban leaders, who went right back to killing American troops. Who changed the regulations on desertion and aiding the enemy? A Dishonorable discharge, reduction in rank and time served is like kissing his ass and saying "you're forgiven, dear boy". What a joke.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2018 2:13 PM

2018-09-11T14:13:41-04:00

This case is prime example as to why the Military should have cases on matters like this one taken away. How can you tell young soldiers that rules matter and the military is an integrity based organization if you let him walk free. People who sympathize with him don't, he wanted to join the terrorists, they welcomed him as they would any of us. There's a reason we call it war. Actions have consequences and Bergdhals led to the deaths of 6 American soldier's I believe and he gets off with no punishment.

Response by PO1 Tom Follis made Sep 12 at 2018 6:48 PM

2018-09-12T18:48:27-04:00

Well said. During Vietnam, some of our own troops were getting shot in the back by our own troops for crossing the line. I feel Bergdahl should have received the same before he was returned to his post. Of course, that would have been way too easy and way too good for him. This wasted piece of human flesh doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air the rest of us do.

Response by SSG Mark Stuart made Sep 17 at 2018 8:26 PM

2018-09-17T20:26:22-04:00

Under UCMJ Bergdahl should have gotten the death penalty. Dis

Under UCMJ Bergdahl should have gotten the death penalty! Injuries or death of fellow soldiers in the attempt of rescue of a deserter warrants the death penalty not a slap on the wrist. The judge should be relieved of duty!

Response by SP5 Michael Cates made Sep 18 at 2018 1:17 PM

2018-09-18T13:17:55-04:00

In the FBI I was taught to connect the dots! The New Democrats! It hurts me to call someone a Democrat new or old when I was an Old Democrat for about 40yr's! Although as I hear that Joe Biden (actually watch a Video of him giving a speech this last weekend) where he calls ANYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH HIM DIRT/FILTH! I would not want anything to do with that group! Then the old Sec. of State Hillary Clinton suggesting that we need to SCRAP the CONSTITUTION creates great concern! All the things that Democrats are doing are all one Brick Short of a Load! Sad!

Response by LTC David Kutchinski made Sep 26 at 2018 4:35 PM

2018-09-26T16:35:00-04:00

MAJ Granger is spot on in all aspects of his adroit analysis. There were options available to POTUS obama to get the traitor back into US forces hands, yet he chose to give up HVTs "in exchange". Why?

The duty/purpose of UCMJ is for the order and discipline of the armed forces. It has been carefully constructed to meet all requirements of justice under the constant cloud of operations in war. The sentence of the traitor obviates its purpose. It isn't the first time during GWOT that the pentagon generals have sided with the desires of the politicos.
On our side, our (US Army) Special Forces Groups could not shoot sentries without sending them a Hallmark invitation according to our ROI (that was directly from POTUS obama.).

Response by SGT Jody Beach made Oct 1 at 2018 7:36 AM

2018-10-01T07:36:56-04:00

WAIT ,,,,, "NOT MY SERGEANT" I do not believe in this automatic promotion for a someone that deserted his post.

Response by CPT James Greene made Oct 2 at 2018 8:00 PM

2018-10-02T20:00:48-04:00

I wonder if you would feel the same if you had been a Taliban POW in a cage for five years.

Response by LCpl David Scott made Oct 3 at 2018 6:54 PM

2018-10-03T18:54:55-04:00

Does this verdict mean, if I don't like my discharge, I can get it changed to something better?

Response by LCpl Michael Cappello made Oct 5 at 2018 2:51 AM

2018-10-05T02:51:23-04:00

Pardon my language, I am going to speak plainly here. Our Traitor and Muslim in Chief put his finger on the scales. Period. Bergdahl should have had the book thrown at him. Should be doing serious time at the Red Line Brig. Obama should be sharing a cell with him.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Oct 7 at 2018 7:06 PM

2018-10-07T19:06:00-04:00

Since someone resurrected this old thread;
A very good read on the subjection of desertion:

"The Deserters: A Hidden History of World War II"
Book by Charles Glass

Response by MSG Loren Tomblin made Oct 9 at 2018 2:52 PM

2018-10-09T14:52:29-04:00

I saw this coming with the POTUS that was in charge and the officers enjoined to bring the rule of law with military justice. Putting it bluntly it makes me sick think that this person was promoted to SGT without the proper training of development of progressive training and experience. In my thoughts he was a deserter based on the investigation. This in itself sets an out for future soldiers that took the oath to have an out if they want to unass the AO.

Response by MSG David Villasenor made Oct 12 at 2018 3:24 AM

2018-10-12T03:24:39-04:00

it is with great sorrow that I read this news. This marks the beginning of the end in the military discipline. it is only expected that in the near future more and more " soldiers " use their free speech when they desert their post simply because they don't like the way the army functions. it is such a shame to observe and live through times like this. I lost several soldiers and friends while in the service, and not once did I ever witness such cowardice in the face of the enemy. I am so sad to see this happening... DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY.

Response by COL Charles Cook made Oct 20 at 2018 8:34 AM

2018-10-20T08:34:02-04:00

Life in prison for Pvt Bergdal; 100 lashes in public for the dumb asses who approved swapping 5 Taliban for a deserter.

Response by MAJ John Douglas made Oct 29 at 2018 9:13 AM

2018-10-29T09:13:38-04:00

I agree brother! Bergdahl would have been in front of a firing squad when desertion to the enemy was considered a bad choice.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 30 at 2018 7:44 AM

2018-10-30T07:44:16-04:00

I hated the idea of this thing, yes I call it a thing. Turned his back on his fellow soldiers and our country and the so called president at the time sets free 5 in return. How is it that it says we do not negotiate with terrorists but delt out 5 for a traitor. I see it in one way, we got him back to pay for his crimes against our soldiers, but set free 5 killers. Politics and the power that comes with it is what it was all about. Protect our country is what we are supposed to do, what are we here for?

Response by SGT Ray Davies made Nov 4 at 2018 1:43 PM

2018-11-04T13:43:48-05:00

Well said Sir.

Response by SSgt James Carter made Nov 4 at 2018 3:19 PM

2018-11-04T15:19:56-05:00

Well written Maj Granger; honor, truth, integrity, faithfulness - all have become even more tarnished and of less value in the eyes of the public. The Honorable Discharge has become valued only among our veterans and still serving brothers and sisters because of decisions like Manning and Bergdahl. Our population consists of 96% non-service personnel protected by the 4% who will; yet the values of that 4% are often scoffed by the ones they serve and protect. When political expediency becomes more important than moral values we all lose something important, but very, very few care.

Response by Cpl Nick Graham made Nov 6 at 2018 2:02 PM

2018-11-06T14:02:18-05:00

The problem with executing Bergdahl is it holds him to a different standard than anyone else that is charged with desertion which believe me is more than you think. Most people who are convicted of desertion only get prison time often about 10 years or so. So the policy of "deserters will be shot" is a policy that is rarely ever implemented the last person to be executed for desertion was in ww2 and he was the only person to be executed during the war and was the first person to be executed for desertion since the civil war. This is largely in part because it's hard to convince the general public that running away is a capital offense essentially when much more serious crimes like murder, and rape carry the same punishment. So to come full circle with this statement. Is Bergdahl a deserter? Yes. Should he be executed? No . Unless you want to set and example going forward. Should he have gotten a harsher sentance? No. Because his sentance is proportional to his crime in my opinion when factor in his unpleasant stay with the Taliban as a POW.

Response by PVT Mark Dorton made Nov 25 at 2018 3:17 PM

2018-11-25T15:17:23-05:00

The only thing I will say is this. There was no way he should've been there in the First place. Involuntarily separated from Coast Guard for Psychiatric issues. Then Given a waver to enlist. All his actions were wrong but those of a man that had no business there. Why was he allowed to be there is also a question that should be asked.

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 26 at 2018 12:02 AM

2018-11-26T00:02:51-05:00

In my mind I see this Trvaesty of justice encouraging Cowardice in the face of the enemy, Desertion, TREASON because 'bird-dog' was teaching the Enemy to build Better ied's & better placement for More American Deaths! I was in AFG at the time & the province 'bird-dog' was in had the hifgest Kill rate of all provinces! The INJUSTICE was influenced greatly by ohomo, the QUEER, muslim, illegal alien president at the time!

Response by Capt Karlos Nordinsifeller made Dec 10 at 2018 11:16 AM

2018-12-10T11:16:37-05:00

He should have been hung.

Response by CPL Gary Syme made Dec 11 at 2018 1:26 PM

2018-12-11T13:26:26-05:00

As an old guy I wonder if any of these "Officers" in this trail have held a weapon and walk a patrol. Seen anyone die? Because of Bergdahl men died, as such, his life should be forfeit. The military has grow soft over the years and this shows it. The military is not a democracy, there is no free speech, desertion in the face of the enemy should automatically get the rope. If this sound too harsh, maybe you shouldn't stand a post or watch against the evil out there that wishes to crush this great nation. Try a job like Starbucks!

Response by SN Jay Perry made Dec 13 at 2018 8:32 AM

2018-12-13T08:32:02-05:00

Private misspelled Bergdahl, should be glad I'm not the convening authority. If I was I would allow damage claims for everyone everything and every round of expand expended to try and rescue him rescue him. From the dog and dog handler who were injured in one rescue attempt to the just the amount of fuel used should all be charged to Bergdahl!

Response by SP5 Jeannie Carle made Dec 13 at 2018 7:03 PM

2018-12-13T19:03:25-05:00

SO well written. I'm keeping it as you have stated my beliefs far better than I could have.

Response by MAJ Seth Goldstein made Dec 17 at 2018 11:13 AM

2018-12-17T11:13:38-05:00

I would think 5 years as a Taliban POW is somewhat of a punishment.

Response by Sgt Mike Jacobi made Dec 17 at 2018 4:35 PM

2018-12-17T16:35:00-05:00

Clearly the farce was played out on the political stage. The real reason it happened is that the presiding officer would like to see stars. And the way to see them on his shoulders, he thinks, is to stick his thumb in President Trumps eye. He did this by gutting the military’s tradition of “mission before self”; Time will decide if that officers goal, attaining flag rank will be realized. However he has struck a heavy blow to our military.

Response by CPL Robert Short made Dec 19 at 2018 12:20 PM

2018-12-19T12:20:01-05:00

The factory is being punished sends the message to the troops that the government cares more about politics than soldiers.

If you think about his plan for half a second you will realize he was obviously not right in the head when he walked off post.

Response by LTC Jim Pickens made Dec 20 at 2018 12:13 PM

2018-12-20T12:13:23-05:00

While in captivity I understand his pay and allowances were suspended. If he received a DD and forfeited that pay/allowances, I'm good with his punishment. However, if he was paid that money for the now determined "bad time", then I'm not good with it. He deserves no pay nor allowances while he was AWOL.

Response by CPT Larry Hudson made Dec 23 at 2018 9:19 PM

2018-12-23T21:19:53-05:00

Lesson is if you plan to leave your post, run toward the enemy hope for exchange, most you will get is fine reduction in rank , loss of some pay and dishonorable discharge which can be expunged from your record. Egregious miscarriage of justice. He should have received nothing less than life and at most death.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2018 1:19 AM

2018-12-24T01:19:33-05:00

I see and understand there is a lot of hoopla surrounding Mr. Bergdahl until this day. I understand people are saying he's a deserter, traitor etc etc. But people are missing the big picture of everyone else involvement from upper chain on down to team leader. I will say a lot of careers were saved or spared from the top all the way down. Seeing news and reading articles, the circumstances just don't add up. During my tours in Iraq, I've been on many small COP's where it was one way in/ one way out with 360 degree security watching perimeter. There are different accounts to what happened that day from ambush to kidnapping to walking off base. The true account by reading is, that he walked off base after duty. The true questions are how did this Soldier manage to walk off base without anyone seeing him in broad daylight? In the summer time, I know the sun was out at 6 in the morning. What were the Soldiers at the gates, towers and NCOIC/OIC doing when he was walking away? Due to insider attacks by Afghan troops, I don't foresee Afghan watching gates without American presence. Once again, you have all this 360 degree security, but nobody saw nothing, odd right....... Even if he was to cut a hole in the hesco barriers, someone in one of the towers should have seen him and called it up. From reading different articles of accounts, some said when they checked his room, he was missing compass, others say bottle of water. Never did anyone mention anything about if he took his weapon or left it behind....... Now you have a Soldier and weapon missing.......... It was quite disturbing to see 5 or 6 of his buddies on CNN getting their 5 minutes of fame saying that people got killed looking for him.......... I wouldn't say that. Unfortunately that's the nature of war.... But I don't think the units were really looking him. You figure if the military could find Saddam Hussein 8 months after the war started in a small hole, why would it take 5 years to find Bergdahl....

Response by SSG Sofia Cardenas made Dec 24 at 2018 12:32 PM

2018-12-24T12:32:34-05:00

As a Soldier deployed in Afghanistan I can personally tell you that my unit and other units within our chain of command were effected by his actions. While my unit did not directly have anything to do with looking for him. We did have to adjust our protocols and accountability for all the Servicemembers within our command since we were in joint operations with other branches :( Never in my entire career have I ever been so angry at 1 Soldier's actions

Response by Cpl Ed Casala made Dec 27 at 2018 6:00 PM

2018-12-27T18:00:37-05:00

One thing that surprised me about this was I discovered there was an ulterior motive for the swap of the five prisoners. At first I was thinking along the lines of pretty much every military member thinking he got the deal of the lifetime and the outrage over this. One day at work when all this happened I was at lunch where I work (its a high tech pharmaceutical company) when I heard a couple of people laughing about it. Thinking I would set them straight about it, I asked them what they thought was so funny about it. These two guys explained to me about a project they worked on as interns ten years ago, right after 9/11. Both of them have multiple PHD's in various fields and are rocket scientist type smart. They were part of a team that invented a gps like tracking device that is the size of a grain of rice. It is injected next to the carotid artery and holds a small explosive charge that if tampered with or commanded, goes off. Its a small charge just designed to make the person bleed out internally. It can be placed without the patient knowing its there. Drug them until they pass out, inject it under the beard, and put them back in the cell and they don't know there tagged. They are then tracked by satellite. Not only does the CIA know where these guys are at all times, but they have the ability to kill them at any time.

While I understand the disdain of the administration for the deal, do not underestimate the cunning of the intelligence community.

Response by MSG William Weatherell made Jan 2 at 2019 2:34 PM

2019-01-02T14:34:43-05:00

Bergdahl was a traitor first, then he was traded for 5 Taliban generals to cover up the Obama.Hillary Clinton Stinger Missile sales to Libya. William Weatherell < [login to see] >

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Thought you might be interested in this:

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▶Anonymous 11/12/18 (Mon) 06:10:2822321c No.3865762
BERGDAHL WAS RELEASED IN EXCHANGE FOR 5 TALIBAN GENERALS IN ORDER TO COVER UP THE OBAMA/HILLARY STINGER MISSILE SALES TO LIBYA.
BENGHAZI AND THE MATCHING SERIAL NUMBERS
So here's the REAL story: Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to secretly retrieve US made Stinger Missiles that the State Dept had supplied to Ansar al Sharia in Libya WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission.
Sec State Hillary Clinton had brokered the Libya deal through Ambassador Stevens and a Private Arms Dealer named Marc Turi, but some of the shoulder fired Stinger Missiles ended up in Afghanistan where they were used against our own military. On July 25th, 2012, a US Chinook helicopter was downed by one of them. Not destroyed only because the idiot Taliban didn't arm the missile. The helicopter didn't explode, but it had to land and an ordnance team recovered the missile’s serial number which led back to a cache of Stinger Missiles kept in
Qatar by the CIA.
Obama and Hillary were in full panic mode, so Ambassador Stevens was sent to Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the Stinger Missiles. This was a "do-or-die" mission, which explains the Stand Down Orders given to multiple rescue teams during the siege of the US Embassy.
It was the State Dept, NOT the CIA, that supplied the Stinger Missiles to our sworn enemies because Gen. Petraeus at CIA would not approve supplying the deadly missiles due to their potential use against commercial aircraft. So then, Obama threw Gen. Petraeus under the bus when he refused to testify in support of Obama’s phony claim of a “spontaneous uprising caused by a YouTube video that insulted Muslims.”
Obama and Hillary committed TREASON!
THIS is what the investigation is all about, WHY she had a Private Server, (in order to delete the digital evidence), and WHY Obama, two weeks after the attack, told the UN that the attack was the result of the YouTube video, even though everyone KNEW it was not.
Furthermore, the Taliban knew that the administration had aided and abetted the enemy WITHOUT Congressional oversight or permission, so they began pressuring (blackmailing) the Obama Administration to release five Taliban generals being held at Guantanamo.
Bowe Bergdahl was just a useful pawn used to cover the release of the Taliban generals. Everyone knew Bergdahl was a traitor but Obama used Bergdahl’s exchange for the five Taliban generals to cover that Obama was being coerced by the Taliban about the unauthorized Stinger Missile deal.
So we have a traitor as POTUS that is not only corrupt, but compromised, as well and a Sec of State that is a serial liar, who perjured herself multiple times at the Congressional Hearings on Benghazi. Perhaps this is why no military aircraft were called upon for help in Benghazi: because the administration knew that our enemies had Stinger Missiles that, if used to down those planes, would likely be traced back to the CIA cache in Qatar and then to the State Dept’s illegitimate arms deal in Libya.
Forward this again and again and again until everyone reads the true story of Benghazi. More than half of US citizens DO NOT KNOW THIS!

Response by PO2 Louis Fattrusso made Jan 15 at 2019 4:04 PM

2019-01-15T16:04:55-05:00

Politicians need to leave military decisions to the military. This is a terrible message to send to all those that serve with honor.

Response by MSgt J D McKee made Jan 16 at 2019 11:10 AM

2019-01-16T11:10:56-05:00

One of the core values I was taught as a child, no shit, was that traitors are court-martialed and then shot by a firing squad. My dad was in the 6th Division WWII and in combat 270 days against the Japs (that's what he called them, he fought them, I didn't, so I use his name for them) and again in Korea. My uncles had all but two been in WWII in some capacity. Some of my first memories were of the news of wars on TV. I knew what a hand grenade was before I knew what a firecracker was because of the tv. Those of my age will know what I'm talking about, war was everywhere (in the news, on tv, at the movies) and most men at the time had been in one. The ones who didn't go were thought less of and whispered about behind their back,

All the men had been to war and all the little boys expected to grow up to be soldiers, where I grew up, anyway.
Guess that don't happen now. I thought traitors got stood up against a wall and shot. Guess I was wrong.

Fuck it. Why would anyone keep their oath now? There are plainly no consequences if not.

Response by PO1 Jackson Plant made Jan 17 at 2019 11:12 AM

2019-01-17T11:12:59-05:00

Well said! The last 3 of these traitors have gotten off easy! One allowed to change gender and basically pardoned, one ran to Russia and was proclaimed a freakin hero, now Bergdall was called a honorable hero by Obama who traded FIVE terrorist for him! Disgusting!

Response by CPL Sheila Lewis made Jan 18 at 2019 10:48 AM

2019-01-18T10:48:15-05:00

You don't walk away from the fight.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 19 at 2019 9:45 AM

2019-01-19T09:45:35-05:00

I am with you brother...former(SFC JAY)

Response by Lt Col Jim Bemis made Jan 28 at 2019 12:03 PM

2019-01-28T12:03:30-05:00

We do not know the evidence brought out at trial. Yes, Bergdahl brought most or all of his troubles on himself. There was claim that he was trying to reach a higher headquarters command post when he left. While you may find it bs, there is no way to know how much credence the judge may have given the claim. The other charge, misbehavior before the enemy, could be interpreted as any number of things, not all of them about running away. Depending upon what the misbehavior was perceived to be could have had an effect. Lastly, there was no evidence that his capture by the Taliban was anything other than unfortuitous. If there was no proof or admission that he gave crucial information to the enemy, there would only be the 5 years he spent in Taliban hands, with some evidence that it was a rather unpleasant experience. I realize that for many of us that does not balance for those lost or injured trying to find him, etc. Apparently, it may have had some effect on the military judge. While even I would admit that the sentence was on the extreme end of the scale, it was within the reasonable realm of possibility, even if you severely disagree with it.

Response by SFC Joseph McCausland made Feb 3 at 2019 10:13 PM

2019-02-03T22:13:19-05:00

Really, after the sideshow the Obama s put on for his parents in the Rose Garden, was there every any doubt that this deserting scumbag would never spend on day in Leavenworth....no the fix was in from the very beginning.
This is a black mark on the United States Army.

Response by MSgt J D McKee made Feb 7 at 2019 3:48 PM

2019-02-07T15:48:06-05:00

Reference the above picture---The one good thing that happened around the time of this whole sorry mess is that our military people no longer have to associate with such abhorrent scum. Just look at that traitorous piece of shit standing next to what I take to be Bergdahl's proud mama. And Berghdal is a traitor, too.

Response by PO3 Ronald Rogers made Feb 24 at 2019 12:17 PM

2019-02-24T12:17:26-05:00

AGREE!!!

Response by Cpl Bernard Bates made Feb 24 at 2019 11:44 PM

2019-02-24T23:44:01-05:00

I believe the army sometimes recruits persons who are not qualified to be in any military service. the recruiter has a quota to fill so, so once this person is signed up they become someone else,s problem. If I had been in Bergdahl,s Plt. I would have been mad as hell. Everything said and done the Army should have been on trial. In 1966 My buddie was a Marine Recuiter. His Quota was six persons a month. He knew every judge in four counties. The Judge would give the person arrested their choice , join the Marine corp or go to Jail. My buddie would go to the Jail Handcuff the prisoner and take him to the Federal bldg. The Marine Corp had to take draftee,s back then. It ruined the corp for several years. They would not let a draftee reenlist. I just hope we can get enough personel volunteering instead of persons who don't want to be their. Semper Fi.

Response by 1stSgt Jeff Blovat made Feb 25 at 2019 8:09 AM

2019-02-25T08:09:49-05:00

Amen on the above.

Response by SPC Ron Salsbury made Mar 29 at 2019 5:42 PM

2019-03-29T17:42:06-04:00

Most Deserters get the death penalty, but rarely do we see it followed through by the service, because of the Cry Baby Bed Wetter Lib-Tards screaming about peoples rights. Any person who deserts their post deserves this punishment, because it puts the personnel of their Unit at risk. Since this penalty does not get carried out, I would love to see an alternative applied; my suggestion is the Mark of Cain to the fore head that cannot be altered, so everyone in the free world will know they are cowards leaving good men and women of the services to fight in their absence. Let society shame them for life, a fate harsher for these individuals more suited than death; that punishment is to easy for them, and more than they deserve.

Response by SPC Ron Salsbury made Apr 4 at 2019 10:56 AM

2019-04-04T10:56:46-04:00

I you have not been following this lately, the new twist to this horseshit story coming out now, is he will be hailed as the turning point for bringing about the closure of this long 18 years plus war on terror related to the exchange of the "Gitmo 5." The article states since releasing the group, it has allowed open dialog between Taliban officials and the US/Afghanistan Government to bring and end to hostilities. This could have been accomplished without him being surrendered period, it just adds to another slap in the face to those who serve honorably and stains the memories of those brothers and sisters we have lost. America has to wake up; next thing you know he will become the second pardoned felon to serve as President of the United States, right next to Draft Dodger Bill Clinton.

Response by SSG David Forler made Apr 9 at 2019 7:32 PM

2019-04-09T19:32:27-04:00

Hell, no Court Marshall CAN EVER AGAIN HAVE A DESERTION TRIAL. All deserters are free to go. Dollar to a donut these FUELD GRADE OFFICERS ARE OBAMA EDUCATED NO INTEGRITY OFFICERS

Response by MSgt Michael Madden made May 5 at 2019 3:19 PM

2019-05-05T15:19:11-04:00

He deserted his post. He should have been sent to Leavenworth for a 10 years or so. So many men got killed searching for him.

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Oct 20 at 2019 9:08 AM

2019-10-20T09:08:26-04:00

Bad trade

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2020 8:31 AM

2020-02-06T08:31:53-05:00

While the burden in this story was upon an enlisted soldier and his grievous behavior, I point to the treacherous actions of former President of the United States Barrack Hussein Obama who released the Taliban Five. This action, like so many many others taken by him in 8 years, has pointed to the continuous undermining of the safety and stability of the USA, including him colluding with our enemies. Americans who haven’t already, should seek truthful answers about our previous leader. The Investigations already ongoing concerning 44 need to be as intense as the scrutiny leveled against President Trump.
May God bring true justice.

Response by SGT Vicki White made Mar 6 at 2020 4:25 PM

2020-03-06T16:25:41-05:00

The little scumbag should be at Leavenworth. Just sayin...

Response by 1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel made Oct 24 at 2020 12:13 AM

2020-10-24T00:13:55-04:00

Each era of our military’s history has its defining and symbolic moments. The South Vietnamese officer executing the NVA soldier with a handgun or the naked children with napalm burns will always represent the resistance and confusion about the Vietnam War. I am afraid Bergdahl will be representative of the current war because in spite of all of the selfless service of military service members, will represent how our nation just doesn’t get behind wars anymore. The Afghanistan War could have been a short and well defined response to 9/11 but instead it turned into the longest war in our history. Civillian leadership of the military works when conflicts are well defined and short. Anything more results in pundits creating media that undermines the statements of our leadership. Bergdahl is emblematic of Obama thinking he was smarter than the Generals and the Generals acting dumb. We need a policy that no war can last more than 1 year...period!

Response by 1st Lt Mark Marshall made Oct 24 at 2020 10:38 AM

2020-10-24T10:38:06-04:00

I agree and know that. It would hav been a hard sell publically to get a different result. Though the view of the public should not be the main concern it seems that since Vietnam that public opinion is given greater emphasis. It seems telling that there was greater uproar formaking the point that he had suffered then acknowledgement of the date of true POWS state. In my opinion it is hard for me to reconcile the two. More should be done to at the very least keep others from engaging in the same actions. Keep the faith. We are better than this and the actions of a majority of soldiers,airman,marines, and seaman are a testiment to that fact.

Response by 1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel made Sep 6 at 2021 1:24 PM

2021-09-06T13:24:26-04:00

Didn’t he desert his unit as a Private? Giving him the rank of a NCO is “time in grade”? Being a NCO is an achievement based on a record of service and proficiency……just sayin’……..