The Chinese want gun control in the United States....do you?

2015-04-25T09:56:25-04:00

The Chinese state-controlled Media is calling for gun control in the US. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. Personally, my first thought is that if our Government keeps growing our debt to China, it would sure make calling in those markers easier for a country that surely must run out of real estate one of these days.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/indepth/2012-12/15/c_132042820.htm

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 9:58 AM

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I find this troubling and Mr. Obama needs to smell the coffee or just quit the office. We pay him to be our leader and support America, not China, not the Middle East but our interests.

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Apr 25 at 2015 10:12 AM

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Of course they do!

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Apr 25 at 2015 10:16 AM

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I oppose citizen disarmament. I'm not surprised the Chinese support it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 10:18 AM

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Whenever I hear anything about China, I start getting nervous. The U.S. Can't cowdown to what other countries want US to do. I don't know if Obama is cajoling with the Far East, Middle East, and Russia about gun control but it would be good for them and bad for us. Is he going to attempt to change the Second Amendment to comply with what other countries want? I don't think that dog will hunt. I hope so anyway. Damn, I'll be glad when he's gone. I know he's going to try to leave a legacy before he's outta here. I pray it doesn't our Second Amendment rights.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 10:30 AM

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They're just pissed. They've been that way ever since Obama's first ammo restriction dried up the sales of the cheap, crappy SKSs they were dumping into our gun market!

Response by TSgt David Holman made Apr 25 at 2015 10:47 AM

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I think the Chinese should worry about what is going on in their yard, and let us deal with ours....

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 11:02 AM

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I definitely think they are setting a precedent for laying the ground work for an invasion.

However, I may have been dreaming this, the US was offering real estate to China in form of payments for debts...now that would be scary.

A gun behind every blade of grass, we cannot ever waiver from this basic right. That is.... unless this administration goes after that right during his last 2 years....but then again, we could have the same for another 4-8 years with Billary.....I will go underground before they take a my thing from me.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 11:02 AM

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I'm sure it would suit China just fine if we were an unarmed citizenry. I'm also sure so would Russia, Iran, Cuba and many others as well. But I do not support an unarmed citizenry.

Response by SGT Michael Touchet made Apr 25 at 2015 11:08 AM

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I think it does have something to do with our debt. They may believe they may have to come to collect and don't want to fight the entire population. For those who don't see our debt as a problem I suggest you wake up. We have to become more fiscally responsible.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 11:11 AM

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GI Jung with the Kung Fu Grip.....

Response by SrA Daniel Hunter made Apr 25 at 2015 11:26 AM

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And the reason why? According to Admiral Yamamoto: "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Apr 25 at 2015 11:50 AM

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Given the sheer amount of gun violence in the US, I'd have to imagine every other country on the planet wants gun control in the US... Someone has to think sensibly, even if we won't...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 12:44 PM

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If they think I will surrender mine, they've lost their minds.

In our doctrine for sniper defeat, there are three classifications of this combatant type.

-The trained sniper: we may not have that many of them, but they're world class and damn good.

-The trained marksman: he could be an SDM, talented sport shooter, or successful hunter. We have millions of this type of shooter. This is probably what our enemies worry about most.

-The armed irregular: this could be anyone with a half decent rifle, and little or no training. These are relatively ineffective until they gain training or experience. The US would spawn even more millions of these should someone attempt invasion. Eventually some really talented shooters will come from this classification. Remember, there are more gun in the United States in private ownership, than people.

This is why they want gun control here. To mitigate a threat that cannot be ignored on the strategic or tactical level.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 1:01 PM

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Red Dawn? Does anyone really believe that this is just a conspiracy theory?

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made Apr 25 at 2015 1:15 PM

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An armed populace are citizens. An unarmed populace are subjects....

I bet China and a few other countries would love to see an unarmed American society. It would make the take over of the Country much easier for them. As was allegedly quoted by one of Japan's best Admirals, "You can not invade the mainland United States. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass."

Come to think of it, I believe there are a few politicians in Washington who would love to see an unarmed populace for the same reason.....

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Apr 25 at 2015 1:22 PM

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I'd just like to point out that this article is from 2012.

I'm sure nothing has changed, however.

And to answer the question, no. I do not want gun control in the United States.

I do want NFA '34, GCA '68, and the Hughes Amendment to FOPA '86 all repealed, pronto. Next -- or simultaneously -- we need to revitalize the Constitutional Militia in each State.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 25 at 2015 1:24 PM

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I wonder how many get stabbed marching with a bayonet?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 4:56 PM

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So would all of our enemies and some of our "so called" allies! What they want and wish doesn't concern me....what does....is the direction and polices our elected leadership wants to move toward......and inturn emboldens our enemies and allies "in name only".

The spoken word of the USA doesn NOT mean anything anymore! They don't care, as there is no backbone in anything spoken from the White House!

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Apr 25 at 2015 5:19 PM

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I do want 'gun control' but not what the Peoples Republic of China is talking about. I think all gun owner should be aware of the weapon they own and make sure they can properly use and control their firearms.

Of course the Communist Chinese, ISIS/ISIL, our own common criminals, the North Korean, the Axis powers, many in our own government...I mean there is a long list of despicable and deplorable people who want to take your right to defend yourself. Sadly, there is also a lot of semi-mindless sheeple who follow the those 'people' thinking they are making the World safer.

Response by CPO Emmett (Bud) Carpenter made Apr 25 at 2015 6:16 PM

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Everyone should own a gun and be able to control it.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Apr 25 at 2015 6:16 PM

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I would like them to move off the face of the planet. We're probably better off if neither wish is granted.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Apr 25 at 2015 6:25 PM

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Well, I want them to deliver Chinese food to my door every day from Beijing. Cry me a river. Those jagoffs are importing all their Norinco/Polytech crap guns here!

Response by COL Charles Williams made Apr 26 at 2015 2:56 AM

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I am not world leader, Rand Think Tanker, or hired talking head on TV... Tell me again why we care what China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran have to say about US law and policy?

Response by SGT Michael Epstein made Apr 26 at 2015 1:09 PM

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I think I have an SKS myself! It is Chinese too lol

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Apr 26 at 2015 6:01 PM

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And we'd like human rights control in China, but that ain't gonna happen either.

Response by PO3 Ken Jeschonek made Apr 27 at 2015 12:25 AM

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In 2014 the guns /per 100 residents in the United States was 88.8
(Wikipedia – Number of guns per capita by country)

This must drive Liberals and Communists a like plum crazy.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2015 8:49 AM

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Of course those that would take advantage of any weakness we show would want gun control. What was the famous line from the Japanese from WWII as to why they shouldn't invade America? Behind every blade of grass is a gun.

Response by SSG Richard Reilly made Apr 27 at 2015 9:01 AM

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This seems like a way of preventing Red Dawn from happening. WOLVERINES!!!

Response by SSG John Erny made Apr 27 at 2015 10:22 AM

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You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. ~Isoroku Yamamoto

Case in Point!

Response by SFC Stephen Hester made Apr 27 at 2015 10:51 AM

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Who cares what they want, especially within our own borders? We want them to stop being Communists...

Response by PO3 Alan Haynes made Apr 27 at 2015 11:17 AM

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"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
"I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto -

Is it to wonder that the Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians and Russians want to disarm the US?

Response by 1SG Scott MacGregor made Apr 27 at 2015 12:02 PM

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Only reason they want gun control so it would be easier to fight us.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2015 12:06 PM

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I do what I want!! They don't pay my car note! :)

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2015 3:14 PM

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I'm defiantly not the most educated or experienced one in this conversation but I was born with a bottle in one hand and a rifle in the other, it's the American way, it's freedom. That is something the people raised in a Communist country will never understand. The fact that they are worried about the ratio of guns to people in a forgin country is rediciculous. Regardless of the debt that we owe them. I have heard theories that state that that debt is the reason we invaded the middle east, to develop a sense of stability in the region for the industrial diamond mines there. That aside, this country was formed as a result of nonconformity and we shouldn't just bow down to another country when our way of doing things goes against their beliefs. That's not the American way!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2015 6:05 PM

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Y'all noticed this article is two years old, right?

I don't think we should even care what they think. American culture as a whole doesn't even really care what our own politicians say. Frankly, China's opinion is irrelevant.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2015 8:34 PM

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Reading some of these comments make me feel like very few of them have actually read the story. First off this article is about the Sandy Hook Shooting that happened in December of 2012. Other then the fact that is is a state run newspaper, I see very little "we demand gun control"

The newspaper is merely stating facts with a more Leftist perspective. Considering the circumstances around the shooting, and the others of that same year, maybe the US should have a serious discussion on how to properly control, secure, and keep track of firearms as well as better ways to deal with mental ill people.

I am not saying take away guns from everybody, but maybe better education on firearms, better treatment of the mentally ill and maybe take a look at how the way the media portrays these incidents should really be talked about.

Honestly if this topic was on anything other then firearms people would be up in arms about regulation, just look at how "Unsafe at Any Speed" changed automobile safety regulations.

Response by SPC David Hannaman made Jul 10 at 2015 10:44 AM

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Wow, so much phobia in this post, don't believe everything you read on the internet.

First, when the gun control advocates here in America get up on their soap box the net result is usually a huge jump in gun sales, so why would we care what the Chinese think?

Second, our "debt" to China is bonds. Good old U.S. Savings bonds. They can't repossess anything, even if they cashed in all the money they've invested in the stock market and caused a recession they would only "cut off their nose to spite their face" because a recession means we don't buy as much of the goods that they import.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Jul 10 at 2015 2:33 PM

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Why not a world gun control policy. Or a world peace policy. C'mon China, really?

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Jul 10 at 2015 3:22 PM

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SGT Richard Hanner, this is a contradiction to all the guns that were made in China and sold here, I had a Norinco Takarov that got stolen last year, and it was a good shooter too.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jul 11 at 2015 1:07 AM

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SGT Richard H., and we care what China wants why? :>)

This is like that UN proposal a while back that would have countermanded the Second Amendment.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2015 1:49 PM

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no I do not they know that most Americans has guns if they know that we're sheet we will be ready for the slaughter we need more guns

Response by LTC Ed Ross made Jul 13 at 2015 5:06 PM

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I served as the Assistant U.S. Army Attaché to China (1983-1984). A lot has changed in China since then, but one thing hasn't changed. The Chinese government and state controlled press are all about criticizing the U.S. and others while concealing their own problems. Somewhere between 3 and 5 thousand Chinese are executed each year, many for crimes no one would receive the death penalty for in the U.S. The Chinese legal system is a sham. First you confess then you get a trial. The Chinese do not tolerate political dissent. Their jails are full of "counter revolutionaries." The Chinese don't own semi-automatic pistols and rifles because if they did their guns would be confiscated and they would be thrown in jail. China's human rights record is abysmal. The People's Republic of China has no business criticizing the U.S. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 4:35 AM

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Off course I don't.
China is the only one we need to worry about. I've read about other countries as well, ie. Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Iran, Cuba.... think about it, these guys have their own problems and definitely most of them wouldn't engage the U.S. as it's not feasible and no point. China however needs some land and access to resources (this will be a problem for Russia too, they have have even more of both). I think it has to do with the debt, and them taking a jab, as it doesn't hurt them either way, perhaps paving way for some unacceptable scenario in the future.

Response by MAJ Ron Peery made Oct 6 at 2015 3:34 PM

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I want an end to communist government in China, but that ain't gonna happen. Maybe they should just mind their own business.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 3:42 PM

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It's possibly just a counter-argument for how we 'stick our nose' into the business of other countries by demanding they improve their Human Rights laws, or do more for the environment, or stop allowing our companies tax havens, etc etc. It's an easy target subject, plus as mentioned above on the really odd chance they decide to invade in the future it makes it easier for them if less of us are armed.

Response by PV2 Scott Goodpasture made Oct 6 at 2015 6:48 PM

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I'll bet they do

Response by SFC Matthew Parker made Oct 27 at 2015 3:49 PM

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Smoke and mirrors, The media in China ran a story about American deaths due to mass shootings and the internal American politics of gun control to cover the mass attack on students in a Chinese school by a 36 year old with a knife. Old tactic to change the discussion in China.
At no time did anyone in the Chinese government call for Americans to disarm. http://variety.com/2013/voices/opinion/china-blasts-u-s-gun-culture [login to see] /

This was an op-ed piece about American gun violence and politics but it was directed at the Chinese population as a warning that gun ownership was bad and divisive. Please read the stories again.

I guess we could publish a story about the danger of Chinese men with knives as a justification to stay armed here in the US.

"Its time China gets control of its violent epidemic of child stabbings:"
An op-ed by Matthew Parker
At what point will the world be safe with this rampage of Chinese men with knives killing children? When will the US close its border to the scourge of 18-40 year old murdering Chinese men with steak knives. We need to ensure every able bodied man and woman receives fire arms training and is licensed on hand guns if we are going to combat this new threat to the fabric of society.
Its time for the Chinese to embrace the second amendment of the US constitution and allow private gun ownership if they want to save their children. and so on and so on.

China blasts U.S. gun culture

BEIJING When covering U.S. news, Chinese media often emphasize what they see as human rights transgressions, especially in relation to gun attacks. They do this partly to deflect regular complaints...

Response by SGT Steve Oakes made Nov 23 at 2015 1:05 PM

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My idea of gun control is steady breathing and pulling, not jerking the trigger. I'll do that for them until my last breath!

Response by SPC Mark Beard made Nov 23 at 2015 1:07 PM

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HELL NO

Response by PO1 Kerry French made Mar 31 at 2016 10:41 PM

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SCREW THEM! They can take my guns from my .... yes... cold dead hands

Response by Jason Shifflett made Mar 31 at 2016 10:49 PM

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Hey China; go figure out your famine issues and stop worrying about the greatest nation on earth.

Response by LT Charles Baird made Apr 1 at 2016 12:56 AM

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Do I want gun control in the United States - of course I do - I want you to be able to control your gun so you can hit what your aiming at!!

Response by Maj John Bell made Apr 1 at 2016 2:43 AM

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I care as much about their opinion on gun control as they care about my opinion on freedom of speech

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2016 5:38 AM

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A vote for Hillary or Bernie is a vote for this...just think before you pull that ballot lever and ask yourself, do I want to be invaded?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2016 6:42 AM

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Sorry China we need all the guns we can get just in case you want to slip in the back door.

Response by PO2 Mark Saffell made Apr 1 at 2016 9:27 AM

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IF Obama has any backbone he will tell China to piss up a rope...But I doubt he has the backbone. Who cares what China wants. They can kiss my Red, white and blue BUTT.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2016 6:34 PM

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People in hell want Lazarus to touch his finger in water and give him to drink!
They were told, there is a great gulf fixed, that those who would go down there cannot, and those who would come up here cannot.
This fellow caring that his brothers do not come into the place of torment (hell) asked to send Lazarus from the Dead to warn "my brothers": Your brothers have the "truth" and those sent to teach the "truth." if they cannot believe in them and the "truth" how shall they believe in the rising of the dead?
Do not forget the Zimmerman telegraph. WWII, the Germans asked Mexico to fight with them and invade the US. Mexico replied back: "We don’t speak their language and they all have guns."
History has taught us the need for our guns is to protect our liberty and freedom against foreign and domestic enemies.
It is not about the hunting and criminals.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2016 6:33 PM

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i recenenty saw an article why the japanese never invaded homeland america, it simply stated that if we attacked behind every blade of grass would be someone with a gun so think about it ive got 2 shotgun and 3006 sniper good out to 400 yrds

Response by Joseph Lane made Jul 28 at 2017 9:16 AM

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I'm calling for them to kiss us where the sun don't shine.

Response by PO3 John Wagner made Jul 30 at 2017 12:56 PM

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If the Chinese want gun control in the United States it sounds like a good reason to stock up on ammunition. I actually don't believe a word of it.. who came up with this tripe?

Response by SFC George Sease made Jul 30 at 2017 11:52 PM

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Not no but HELL NO!!!!!!
I would not be surprised if the real reason would be to one day to try an invasion. After all Germany invaded a country, demanded gun registration lists OR registering guns only to have the weapons confiscated real quick. That was one of several reasons that the people of Germany were not able to mount a successful overthrow of Hitler.
To quote Jorge Agustin Nicolas Ruiz de Santayana y Botha's, "Those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it".
Hopefully we will never forget the past.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Jul 31 at 2017 6:42 AM

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No. If the form of gum=n control was enforced that they all want, we'd be like the Jews from WWII, and other groups that the Nazi's took weapons away from.

Response by AN Christopher Crayne made Jul 31 at 2017 6:56 AM

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I tend to agree with SrA Daniel Hunter in one ear and out the other ( picture Charlie Browns teacher....waa waa waa).China has no say period. Thank you have a great day!

Response by Cpl Robert Eldridge made Mar 21 at 2020 6:26 AM

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All of this countries enemies are drooling over the idea that the democrats will take our guns.
We will not be able to defend ourselves.