This article appeared today, are we divided internally? what are your thoughts?

SFC A.M. Drake — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:21:28 -0400

By Marc A. Thiessen September 15
Pity poor Gen. Lloyd Austin, top commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East.

Rarely has a U.S. general given his commander in chief better military advice, only to see it repeatedly rejected.

In 2010, Gen. Austin advised President Obama against withdrawing all U.S. forces from Iraq, recommending that the president instead leave 24,000 U.S. troops (down from 45,000) to secure the military gains made in the surge and prevent a terrorist resurgence. Had Obama listened to Austin’s counsel, the rise of the Islamic State could have been stopped.

But Obama rejected Austin’s advice and enthusiastically withdrew all U.S. all forces from the country, boasting that he was finally bringing an end to “the long war in Iraq.”

Now the “long war in Iraq” is back. And because Obama has not learned from his past mistakes, it is likely to get even longer.

Last week, Obama announced a strategy to re-defeat the terrorists in Iraq. But instead of listening to his commanders this time around, Obama once again rejected the advice of . . . you guessed it . . . Gen. Lloyd Austin.

The Post reports that, when asked for his recommendation for the best way to defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, Austin told the president that “his best military advice was to send a modest contingent of American troops, principally Special Operations forces, to advise and assist Iraqi army units in fighting the militants.” Obama was having none of it. Austin’s recommendation, The Post reports, “was cast aside in favor of options that did not involve U.S. ground forces in a front-line role.”

Indeed, in his address to the nation, Obama insisted that “American forces will not have a combat mission — we will not get dragged into another ground war in Iraq.” He declared the effort against the Islamic State “different from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan” and modeled instead on the air campaigns he has waged against al-Qaeda affiliates such as the one in Yemen.

There’s one problem with that: The air campaign in Yemen is not working. Just this weekend al-Qaeda infiltrated forces into Yemen’s capital, Sanaa, and Yemeni officials say that al-Qaeda’s strength in Yemen is growing. And as American Enterprise Institute counterterrorism expert Katherine Zimmerman points out, al-Qaeda’s Yemeni affiliate was behind a “terror threat that closed more than 20 U.S. diplomatic posts in North Africa and the Middle East in August 2013.” If, four years from now, the Islamic State is still strong enough to force the closure of 20 U.S. embassies and consulates, then Obama’s strategy to “degrade and destroy” the group will have failed.

Response by SPC Christopher Smith made Sep 17 at 2014 12:36 PM

SPC Christopher Smith — Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:36:15 -0400

We are divided internally, a C&C who does not support the use of ground forces, and the lack of trust from his best advisors. I fault his ignorance of military importance do to his lack of military service. Although economically we could not handle another large war front, we as a Nation need to decide, are we all in or all out? Only because of the effect on the economy, I lean away from fighting at all. We have so many more issues to fix in our own country. We can't help anyone if we are drowning ourselves.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2014 12:01 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Oct 2014 00:01:49 -0400

He won't learn because he doesn't want to learn. It goes totally against his agenda. Unfortunately, this is the same garbage the country went through during Vietnam. That war was being won yet the military was pulled out for political reasons.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2014 4:24 AM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Oct 2014 04:24:29 -0400

Here is where our leaders stand!

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/an-officer-corps-that-cant-score/

An Officer Corps That Can’t Score

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