Those Pesky Post-Military Jobs https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/those-pesky-post-military-jobs <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-9950"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fthose-pesky-post-military-jobs%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Those+Pesky+Post-Military+Jobs&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fthose-pesky-post-military-jobs&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AThose Pesky Post-Military Jobs%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/those-pesky-post-military-jobs" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="0ffdb7e6d9c94651821ec3c8acd0eb2f" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/009/950/for_gallery_v2/handshake_copy.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/009/950/large_v3/handshake_copy.jpg" alt="Handshake copy" /></a></div></div>Compare your resume to a car listing on the internet. If you are seeking a car, you have certain criteria to include size, use, function…etc. Ultimately, you purchase a vehicle based on your return on investment, longevity of the vehicle and utilization of its features. If you want low gas mileage, have no kids and don’t own a lot of stuff, you could seek a compact car. If you have a farm, 10 dogs and like to go hunting, the truck or SUV is more suitable.<br /><br />“Matt, how does this relate to jobs?”<br /><br />Employers want to get the best bang for their buck. Your pay is often relative to the amount of business you produce, or your skill level and its impact on keeping business flowing. How do they find you? With recruiters or job postings. In many application processes, the candidates with the most comparable experience are the ones who get the interview. You don’t test drive bulldozers when your spouse has requested a golf-cart, in other words. Recruiters and hiring managers are exceptionally busy, so your advertisement (or resume) MUST be the most relevant and attractive.<br /><br />Attractive doesn’t mean “the most stuff,” like some cars. Attractive means you have exactly what they want. Attractive means you are really able to utilize your skills for the position. A 4×4 SUV isn’t worth the purchase if the 4×4 only works 30% of the time.<br /><br />Having marketable skills and/or gaining said skills are key. A lot of transitioning military personnel tend to over exaggerate or mis-market their “military-specific” skills. Example: The Army Supply Administrator whose resume is seeking a physical security position. There are many who get out of the military and go after security and law enforcement jobs. It used to be that there were contractor jobs available…but withdraw from Iraq and downsizing operations left those resources a bit more limited. Law enforcement jobs aren’t always available, and have exceptional competition…and police departments are rarely (if ever) searching resume boards.<br /><br />Weapons handling, military specific jargon, non-professional activities… etc. don’t belong on a resume… even for a security/police job. Employers want a professional, not an action figure.<br />A sales team wants a salesman. Were you an NCO? If so, you probably know how to take charge of a conversation, speak to an executive, make an action report, and devise a plan of “attack.” These are things most of your recent grad counterparts likely haven’t done yet. Are you able to work in high stress and fast-paced environments? Guess what, most people (realistically) cannot.<br /><br />You won’t rule the world in one day. <br /><br />What? Don’t go after a marketing job, with a mechanic’s resume. Crazy? It happens all the time. If you are applying for an entry-level position and your resume says “I want to be the CEO,” chances are you will be passed up. It’s good to have aspirations, but unrealistic expectations of your potential employer will lead to a lack of opportunity for you.<br /><br />Don’t get deterred when you get shot down. In MOST of corporate America, four or eight years in the military doesn’t automatically qualify you for a corporate manger-level job… It’s just the way it is. Get in the door, prove yourself, and you may get promoted. NOTHING is guaranteed and there are no entitlements out here. Your proven actions and successes will speak louder than anything. <br /><br />You are coming from a different world and lifestyle, so naturally it will be a difficult transition. BUT there are lots of places and people who want to help you get there. Don’t just settle for halfway. Get out there and be competitive. Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:21:15 -0400 Those Pesky Post-Military Jobs https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/those-pesky-post-military-jobs <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-9950"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fthose-pesky-post-military-jobs%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Those+Pesky+Post-Military+Jobs&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fthose-pesky-post-military-jobs&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AThose Pesky Post-Military Jobs%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/those-pesky-post-military-jobs" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="158439f63916de247089399cb0f3915b" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/009/950/for_gallery_v2/handshake_copy.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/009/950/large_v3/handshake_copy.jpg" alt="Handshake copy" /></a></div></div>Compare your resume to a car listing on the internet. If you are seeking a car, you have certain criteria to include size, use, function…etc. Ultimately, you purchase a vehicle based on your return on investment, longevity of the vehicle and utilization of its features. If you want low gas mileage, have no kids and don’t own a lot of stuff, you could seek a compact car. If you have a farm, 10 dogs and like to go hunting, the truck or SUV is more suitable.<br /><br />“Matt, how does this relate to jobs?”<br /><br />Employers want to get the best bang for their buck. Your pay is often relative to the amount of business you produce, or your skill level and its impact on keeping business flowing. How do they find you? With recruiters or job postings. In many application processes, the candidates with the most comparable experience are the ones who get the interview. You don’t test drive bulldozers when your spouse has requested a golf-cart, in other words. Recruiters and hiring managers are exceptionally busy, so your advertisement (or resume) MUST be the most relevant and attractive.<br /><br />Attractive doesn’t mean “the most stuff,” like some cars. Attractive means you have exactly what they want. Attractive means you are really able to utilize your skills for the position. A 4×4 SUV isn’t worth the purchase if the 4×4 only works 30% of the time.<br /><br />Having marketable skills and/or gaining said skills are key. A lot of transitioning military personnel tend to over exaggerate or mis-market their “military-specific” skills. Example: The Army Supply Administrator whose resume is seeking a physical security position. There are many who get out of the military and go after security and law enforcement jobs. It used to be that there were contractor jobs available…but withdraw from Iraq and downsizing operations left those resources a bit more limited. Law enforcement jobs aren’t always available, and have exceptional competition…and police departments are rarely (if ever) searching resume boards.<br /><br />Weapons handling, military specific jargon, non-professional activities… etc. don’t belong on a resume… even for a security/police job. Employers want a professional, not an action figure.<br />A sales team wants a salesman. Were you an NCO? If so, you probably know how to take charge of a conversation, speak to an executive, make an action report, and devise a plan of “attack.” These are things most of your recent grad counterparts likely haven’t done yet. Are you able to work in high stress and fast-paced environments? Guess what, most people (realistically) cannot.<br /><br />You won’t rule the world in one day. <br /><br />What? Don’t go after a marketing job, with a mechanic’s resume. Crazy? It happens all the time. If you are applying for an entry-level position and your resume says “I want to be the CEO,” chances are you will be passed up. It’s good to have aspirations, but unrealistic expectations of your potential employer will lead to a lack of opportunity for you.<br /><br />Don’t get deterred when you get shot down. In MOST of corporate America, four or eight years in the military doesn’t automatically qualify you for a corporate manger-level job… It’s just the way it is. Get in the door, prove yourself, and you may get promoted. NOTHING is guaranteed and there are no entitlements out here. Your proven actions and successes will speak louder than anything. <br /><br />You are coming from a different world and lifestyle, so naturally it will be a difficult transition. BUT there are lots of places and people who want to help you get there. Don’t just settle for halfway. Get out there and be competitive. Sgt Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:21:15 -0400 2014-09-29T09:21:15-04:00 Response by SFC Stephen Hester made Sep 29 at 2014 11:45 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/those-pesky-post-military-jobs?n=258661&urlhash=258661 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>God post. Job seekers also want to ensure that their social media profiles (such as LinkedIn) reflect the same skills and experience. Don't use your MOS code, use your job title or civilian equivalent. You can bet that a prospective employer is going to look there so you want him or her to see something worth looking at. <br /><br />Don't forget the profile picture, either. Do NOT leave this space empty; no employer wants to hire a nondescript head. Have a professional looking photo: preferably in business attire or in your dress uniform. This may be the first look a prospective employer gets and you want to make it count. SFC Stephen Hester Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:45:28 -0400 2014-09-29T11:45:28-04:00 Response by Capt Brandon Charters made Sep 29 at 2014 7:19 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/those-pesky-post-military-jobs?n=259219&urlhash=259219 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great command post <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="4026" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/4026-1371-combat-engineer">Sgt Private RallyPoint Member</a>! Having a practical job search really is key. Shoot for the stars, but put yourself in the hiring manager's shoes: Do I want to hire a person with a resume that doesn't read well for my open position? Knowing the role and keeping it in the back of your mind when talking to the recruiter helps convey how great you could be at it. Tie things in...Relate stories and examples of how you did similar tasks in the military and are open to learning a new process to be successful again. Thanks for sharing all this great info! Capt Brandon Charters Mon, 29 Sep 2014 19:19:09 -0400 2014-09-29T19:19:09-04:00 2014-09-29T09:21:15-04:00