Thoughts on new EPR system, pro's and con's?

2015-10-26T10:39:47-04:00

As the AF changes so does the rating system, what are your thoughts on the new changes. I've seen three EPR changes in the 15 years on active service, we moved from less performance impacting bullets to more well rounded bullets to now back to more performance. I personally like the new system even though it has it's flaws, it's points to the hard workers who need not consume their time with more volunteer and school but focus on the job performance more while still volunteering within range and obtaining higher education.

Response by TSgt David L. made Oct 26 at 2015 10:53 AM

2015-10-26T10:53:58-04:00

Bla bla bla, The Air Force throws the baby out with the bathwater every 5-10 year seemingly just for change sakes. The EPR system seems to be the most changed item. We went from APRs to EPRs with many growing pains. All for a net gain of nothing, really. I don't see this effort being any different...

Response by MSgt John Taylor made Oct 26 at 2015 11:39 AM

2015-10-26T11:39:32-04:00

I agree that performance based is better than extra curricular base reporting, but it's all cyclic. Once it becomes harder to distinguish one outstanding performing airman from another, they'll change it up again. They're always looking to make it easier to choose.

Also, you'll get a new CMSgtAF in that has a better understanding, than the majority of the enlisted force, of what an ideal airman should be like, and he'll have the criteria changed or amended.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2015 1:14 PM

2015-10-26T13:14:58-04:00

The thing is, for SF at least, most people will have all the same material on their EPR. Sure the dirt bags won't be written as well as the others, but in general, most EPR's look the same. with that being said, I think that volunteering and all the extra stuff will still play a huge part in who gets the best rating now. 1206's still require base/community support. Say Amn X volunteers and does good at work and that person that goes out and wins airman of the _____, they will get a higher rating than the one that does their job just as well, but didn't volunteer.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2015 1:09 AM

2015-10-27T01:09:44-04:00

I personally know a lot of fellow Airmen who are frustrated to have to compete for promotion with guys and gals who simply can't perform in the mission but are good at doing things that don't really affect the mission. Being well rounded and education focused is great but the Air Force needs is to do a job. That means that the mission should be our focus.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2015 1:15 AM

2015-10-27T01:15:11-04:00

Additionally, as front line supervisors, we need to accurately rating on our troops. If they are not performing to the standard, let it reflect in their EPR. It comes down to is to ensure that the people who deserve to be promoted are the ones who are being considered. As long as we can do that, then this new system should work.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 29 at 2015 5:26 PM

2015-10-29T17:26:15-04:00

So in my opinion, the issue with the new evaluation, is not the form......but the fact there is a change again. I would argue that the failure of any document, is going to be the human factor. Supervisors/leaders need to provide the feedback and standards for expectations in regards to performance......and wait for it.....hold them to the standards and either guide or watch them succeed. I've seen discussion about how all of the bullets are going to be the same for some career fields; okay, again what are the supervisors/leaders going to do to address this. If they are all doing the same thing, I guarantee they are all doing at different levels of the expectations assigned. Most will meet and then you will have others who are looking for ways to exceed those standards. If they are meeting expectations, they are doing what they are supposed to, there is nothing wrong with that. Those that take a step further should be recognized to right as such. In my opinion, those are the ones who are ready to wear those next stripes. I caveat that with duty performance should be foremost with compliments of the whole Airman Concept; that is one aspect of the new form that I agree with.

Response by MSgt Devon Saunders made Oct 31 at 2015 10:28 AM

2015-10-31T10:28:19-04:00

My only gripe about the new EES is the same Chiefs who benefited from the old overinflated system "now" want to change the system.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2017 9:30 PM

2017-07-17T21:30:56-04:00

The epr process would work great, be transparent and easily understandable if we adopted the USA enlisted promotion system.