Topless equality for Males and Females; Do you think this should actually be considered? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thousands of people paraded shirt-free around the world Sunday to push for laws that would allow women to go topless in public; allowing women to go topless where ever men are allowed. What issues do you foresee if this is approved, And are you for or against it? Oh, and please be civil with your replies as I&#39;m really curious as to what you think about this, thank you!<br /><br />As far as I&#39;m concerned, I would be against it due to the immature goobers who may see this as an opportunity to &quot;take it a step further&quot;. I do understand why the challenge for equality, I just don&#39;t think this is one that should be pursued, as doing so will only appeal more to the predators... Also of note, there are some guys and gals out there that really just don&#39;t look... &quot;aesthetically pleasing (?)&quot; going topless... <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/020/673/qrc/150823-go-topless-inline_af9f14b1270cec1bb93ad00ba94549ac.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg?1443052492"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/women-men-doff-their-shirts-around-world-go-topless-day-n414581">Women, and Men, Doff Their Shirts Around the World for &#39;Go Topless Day&#39;</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Thousands of people paraded shirt-free around the world Sunday to push for laws that would allow women to go topless in public.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:44:06 -0400 Topless equality for Males and Females; Do you think this should actually be considered? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Thousands of people paraded shirt-free around the world Sunday to push for laws that would allow women to go topless in public; allowing women to go topless where ever men are allowed. What issues do you foresee if this is approved, And are you for or against it? Oh, and please be civil with your replies as I&#39;m really curious as to what you think about this, thank you!<br /><br />As far as I&#39;m concerned, I would be against it due to the immature goobers who may see this as an opportunity to &quot;take it a step further&quot;. I do understand why the challenge for equality, I just don&#39;t think this is one that should be pursued, as doing so will only appeal more to the predators... Also of note, there are some guys and gals out there that really just don&#39;t look... &quot;aesthetically pleasing (?)&quot; going topless... <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/020/673/qrc/150823-go-topless-inline_af9f14b1270cec1bb93ad00ba94549ac.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg?1443052492"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/women-men-doff-their-shirts-around-world-go-topless-day-n414581">Women, and Men, Doff Their Shirts Around the World for &#39;Go Topless Day&#39;</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Thousands of people paraded shirt-free around the world Sunday to push for laws that would allow women to go topless in public.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> MSgt Curtis Ellis Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:44:06 -0400 2015-08-24T11:44:06-04:00 Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Aug 24 at 2015 11:45 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914174&urlhash=914174 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>why not? it was never an issue historically really until the beginning of the dark ages. LCpl Mark Lefler Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:45:13 -0400 2015-08-24T11:45:13-04:00 Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 11:45 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914175&urlhash=914175 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Very interesting concept, but until women&#39;s &quot;tops&quot; are not considered sexual, this isn&#39;t going to be accepted, nor should it be. LCDR Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:45:19 -0400 2015-08-24T11:45:19-04:00 Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Aug 24 at 2015 11:47 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914180&urlhash=914180 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Makes you wonder about that. A good question but I don't think this will happen anytime soon. SCPO David Lockwood Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:47:43 -0400 2015-08-24T11:47:43-04:00 Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Aug 24 at 2015 11:56 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914202&urlhash=914202 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Starting to sound like my father here: You're not at the beach --so, go put on a shirt! Equality-schmality... Dress appropriately and you'll be taken more seriously. Capt Mark Strobl Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:56:37 -0400 2015-08-24T11:56:37-04:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 12:03 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914223&urlhash=914223 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="201593" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/201593-msgt-curtis-ellis">MSgt Curtis Ellis</a>,<br />This shouldn't be considered at all. Going around topless as a male or female isn't a right. Someone is likely to cause a traffic accident if people go running around topless. Let's consider this a safety issue. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:03:06 -0400 2015-08-24T12:03:06-04:00 Response by SGT Kristin Wiley made Aug 24 at 2015 12:10 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914241&urlhash=914241 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Topless may be a little too far, I&#39;m all for going bra-less though. Those things are like restrictive torture devices. SGT Kristin Wiley Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:10:45 -0400 2015-08-24T12:10:45-04:00 Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 12:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914269&urlhash=914269 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why not, everything else is going to "hell in a hand basket". Equal everything! MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:21:40 -0400 2015-08-24T12:21:40-04:00 Response by Capt Richard I P. made Aug 24 at 2015 12:36 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914305&urlhash=914305 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yep. Government shouldn&#39;t penalize people unequally. Capt Richard I P. Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:36:29 -0400 2015-08-24T12:36:29-04:00 Response by SSG Warren Swan made Aug 24 at 2015 12:37 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914311&urlhash=914311 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If they want the freedom to do this, then give it to them. I could care less. Now when you find yourself photographed and placed online or as a meme, don&#39;t open your mouth and say sh*t. This what YOU wanted. When you find yourself verbally harassed, don&#39;t complain. When you spill hot coffee on yourself DON&#39;T sue McDonalds...they said it was hot and you had no shirt on, so suck it up buttercup. SSG Warren Swan Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:37:14 -0400 2015-08-24T12:37:14-04:00 Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Aug 24 at 2015 12:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914325&urlhash=914325 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am all for it!<br />Unfortunately .. <br />most of the people I would like to see that way <br />are seldom the ones that do... SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:42:41 -0400 2015-08-24T12:42:41-04:00 Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Aug 24 at 2015 12:49 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914347&urlhash=914347 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If I can wring my shirt out in my lawn, my wife should have the same option. It&#39;s that simple.<br /><br />Mammary glands are only sexual because we make them so. And honestly, they&#39;re sexual whether they&#39;re covered by a sweater in the winter, or nothing in the summer. I don&#39;t need someone else telling me what I can and cannot look at.<br /><br />Anyone who has ever been to a topless beach for more than 15 minutes, quickly learns, they&#39;re just tits, and there are twice as many of them as there are women. They&#39;re not that big a deal once you get over seeing them for a few minutes. It&#39;s the fact that we don&#39;t get to see them whenever we want that makes this a big deal.<br /><br />&quot;But Aaron, if she&#39;s jogging, men will look and there will be an accident!&quot;<br /><br />&quot;But Mohammed, if she&#39;s walking, and we can see her ankle... someone will get excited... and it will be chaos! Chaos!&quot;<br /><br />That&#39;s how silly that argument sounds to me. Yes, I&#39;m taking the argument to the absolute absurd level, because it&#39;s an absurd argument. We live in an era of high speed internet. If someone wants to see breasts, they have access to all shapes and sizes at a click of a button. We can see them jiggle and bounce. It&#39;s not that big of a deal. <br /><br />Unless there is an actual hygienic reason to keep them locked up like some sort of criminal, apply the rules equally across both sexes. Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:49:51 -0400 2015-08-24T12:49:51-04:00 Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Aug 24 at 2015 1:03 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914387&urlhash=914387 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>First of all we must be realistic, most of the women that would go topless are not pin up material so you are going to have to look at a lot of glands that may not be very appealing. <br /><br />You can make the same argument about complete nudity too. I know breasts are not a sexual organ but when it comes to human (especially western) mindset the curves of women are very appealing sexually to men. That is just the way it is.<br /><br />A topless beach, okay, a nudist beach/colony, okay. Public nudity/topless, no thanks. I have enough bad dreams. <br /><br />If it is such a great idea how many would want their mother, wife and/or daughter etc walking around topless for others to ogle? My guess is very few. When the notion is about "other" women being topless then it seems more appealing to some. Cpl Jeff N. Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:03:28 -0400 2015-08-24T13:03:28-04:00 Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 1:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914515&urlhash=914515 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm supportive of this actually. No, I don't think people in general should just walk around topless, so you could say I'm more supportive of mandating everyone wear shirts everywhere, otherwise keep it equal. The fact the breasts are sexualized is actually considered a fetish, since it's not a primary sexual organ. If what I've read before is correct, they're considered a secondary, along with facial hair, and I was never required to cover my beard. No, I don't think they should be on the same level, but they are so that's how I see that. The big thing here is, we want to hide women's bodies because we can't teach our young to respect them and not see them as sexual objects. Give them equal rights, persecute those who can't keep their hands to themselves, and don't take away from someone just because they aren't as aesthetically pleasing. PO2 Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:31:26 -0400 2015-08-24T13:31:26-04:00 Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 2:37 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914726&urlhash=914726 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>More ignorance for the sake of shock and awe. Put a 25 year old male and a 25 year old female on a beach topless...see who get's more attention. LCDR Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:37:25 -0400 2015-08-24T14:37:25-04:00 Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 3:04 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914844&urlhash=914844 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is such a made up issue......or to be more appropriate a "1st Word Problem".<br /><br />I really can't understand why we as Americans waste time with nonsense like this there are much bigger things going on in our country that need to be addressed.  <br /><br />Make it legal the "titty party" will run around for a few days to try and make some point....realize that no one cares and then move on.<br /><br />Maybe if as a nation we were not so uptight these non-issue issues would not take up all of the time of our elected representatives and they could move on to more important things....like maybe making a budget, addressing crime rates, tax laws, etc.<br /><br />If a woman wants to breast feed in public  let her (babies need to eat) but she should be tasteful about it......if she want to go topless...let her...who cares....I grew up in Europe and after the initial "culture shock" wears off you don't event notice it.  Same with going topless....once the initial shock passes no one cares...or hell even really notices.<br /><br />Besides studies have shown that looking at woman's breast actually lower men's blood pressure and agitation levels.....so Win-Win......right<br /><br />Amazingly enough you don't see women running around St Mark's Square or the Louvre or Vatican Square, or in movie theaters, shopping malls, gas stations, etc all over Europe ....why.....well it's simple most women don't want to go topless unless it's in an appropriate environment...you know like Church.....just seeing if you are still paying attention....but seriously in countries where this is legal it's not like there are herds of topless woman rampaging around. They pretty much only do it at the beaches, parks, or other places where it would be appropriate. <br /><br />The only reason we the militant 'titty party" does crap like this is to get their 15 min of fame........ and besides isn't it time New York City got a Singing Cowgirl also?<br /><br />Can we please just get this done and move onto to something that matters? MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:04:32 -0400 2015-08-24T15:04:32-04:00 Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Aug 24 at 2015 3:37 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914923&urlhash=914923 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Equality is equality... SFC Michael Hasbun Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:37:06 -0400 2015-08-24T15:37:06-04:00 Response by SGT Lawrence Corser made Aug 24 at 2015 3:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914936&urlhash=914936 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yeah I do think it should be equal but then again America in general are and will always be a prudish state. SGT Lawrence Corser Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:42:58 -0400 2015-08-24T15:42:58-04:00 Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 24 at 2015 3:53 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=914962&urlhash=914962 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am not too sexy without a shirt. MAJ Ken Landgren Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:53:38 -0400 2015-08-24T15:53:38-04:00 Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Aug 24 at 2015 4:11 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=915005&urlhash=915005 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="201593" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/201593-msgt-curtis-ellis">MSgt Curtis Ellis</a> - As long as boys will be boys and girls will be girls (which, I understand, is getting more and more "blended" in today's society) and female breasts are looked upon in a sexual context, I don't think society would accept topless females in the same way as topless males.<br /><br />I agree with some of the others who have commented about it being "normal" in other countries. Having lived overseas for 31 years of my life, most of that in Europe, I can attest to the fact that topless women are considered in a much different vein than they would be in the USA. However, that is a result of generations of assimilation and upbringing. It would take time for the US to feel the same way. In the interim, topless women in public would simply be a free peep-show for the males. COL Jean (John) F. B. Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:11:57 -0400 2015-08-24T16:11:57-04:00 Response by LTJG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 6:59 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=915400&urlhash=915400 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is an interesting idea. We as Americans are one of very few cultures that associate breasts with genitalia and in doing so sexualize something that is not a sex organ. Case in point, I saw a meme on FB today that had a fat man with quite large man-boobs in one shot and a skinny girl with less than an A-cup in another and said &quot;life&#39;s not fair&quot;. Since this man has boobs that resemble a well endowed woman should he be forced to wear a bra? Or since she doesn&#39;t meet the other end of the social norm would it be ok for her to go topless? I don&#39;t think America is ready for topless females in public because of how we are as a society, but something does need to wake us up. We are almost as bad as when British society decided that ankles on women (and even furniture) were too much and needed to be covered lest someone fantasize about them. LTJG Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:59:34 -0400 2015-08-24T18:59:34-04:00 Response by SFC Nikhil Kumra made Aug 24 at 2015 7:41 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=915478&urlhash=915478 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hah love all the male responses giving some BS "they're not even a sexual thing, gawwwwsh" explanation. <br /><br />I say, ladies, those guys who are saying all of that are the real pervos... And trust me, I'm not different. But I'm honest...<br /><br />So yes, absolutely should be a thing. Why? Because. I get to see and accidentally walk into boobies. That's why. <br /><br />Ever see anyone trip, fall, and accidentally motorboat some love pillows? ..... You will! Lol SFC Nikhil Kumra Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:41:43 -0400 2015-08-24T19:41:43-04:00 Response by SGT Glenn E Moody made Aug 24 at 2015 8:03 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=915528&urlhash=915528 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>don't care one way or the other but some wont be able to handle it for many reasons like i don't mind my woman topless in front of me. but i wouldn't like anyone seeing her topless and i don't think she would like it. but if she wanted to walk around topless i wouldn't mind. but if someone grouped her i would kill them. and some men can't see a nice set of breast's without getting a hardon it's a fact or looking for more than 60 sec. witch is leering and that is sexual harassment by law. i know this because i had to take classes for my management position at Wells Fargo Guard services. SGT Glenn E Moody Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:03:19 -0400 2015-08-24T20:03:19-04:00 Response by SSgt Penny Ryan made Aug 24 at 2015 9:40 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=915726&urlhash=915726 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The "sexualixation" of female breasts will not make this practical/ possible.<br />Examples: <br />Women breastfeeding in public are often asked to move.<br />Breast cancer raises the highest amount of funding among all cancers, and is even commercialized every October with pink wares, football teams wearing pink gear, etc. Can anyone who doesn't have cancer themselves (or an immediate family member) tell me what another support color is for a different type of cancer? It covers the color spectrum and represents all types of cancer, even ones far more deadly; yet all most people know about is pink, because breasts are worshipped.<br />Moral decency should also be included in this decision. Top less &amp; nude beaches are fine for those who wish to attend, but that doesn't mean that we should all be walking around naked every day. SSgt Penny Ryan Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:40:26 -0400 2015-08-24T21:40:26-04:00 Response by MSgt Aaron Brite made Aug 24 at 2015 9:57 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=915764&urlhash=915764 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I see no problem with topless equality where appropriate. A breast is a breast and a body is a body and it time for American puritanical restrictions to fade out. I believe more equality and less "sensationalism" surrounding the body would improve dismal behavior to date by immature men toward women.<br />That said, it must be where appropriate and far to many men doff when they should don their shirts.<br /><br />As for bra's, don't ever burn them! Damn things cost a fortune! Donate them or squirrel them away for when you need them. ;) MSgt Aaron Brite Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:57:56 -0400 2015-08-24T21:57:56-04:00 Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Aug 25 at 2015 1:08 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916082&urlhash=916082 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I suppose it should be no difference. However, the day my daughters come over topless might just be too much for me. SFC Joseph Weber Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:08:16 -0400 2015-08-25T01:08:16-04:00 Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Aug 25 at 2015 3:04 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916153&urlhash=916153 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You think we have SHARP problems now - this will only make things worse.<br /><br />The fact that the video blurs the women's bare chests should tell you that the society is not ready for this. Capt Seid Waddell Tue, 25 Aug 2015 03:04:03 -0400 2015-08-25T03:04:03-04:00 Response by Capt Jeff S. made Aug 25 at 2015 7:06 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916301&urlhash=916301 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>And we wonder why the rest of the world doesn't want our influence &lt; SMH &gt; Capt Jeff S. Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:06:59 -0400 2015-08-25T07:06:59-04:00 Response by SPC David S. made Aug 25 at 2015 7:17 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916310&urlhash=916310 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, as already stated, the technology of today allows us to see whatever we want whenever we wish. There really shouldn't be that much of a problem with women being allowed to go topless. SPC David S. Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:17:09 -0400 2015-08-25T07:17:09-04:00 Response by SSG Ed Mikus made Aug 25 at 2015 7:23 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916318&urlhash=916318 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>there is a time and place for everyone to be topless, i do not agree with a low that allows women to be topless anywhere and everywhere. SSG Ed Mikus Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:23:28 -0400 2015-08-25T07:23:28-04:00 Response by MSgt Darren VanDerwilt made Aug 25 at 2015 7:27 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916324&urlhash=916324 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I call it freedom and liberty, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. My wife and I have had this discussion before. Her opinion is that she should be able to go around topless like men do. All of this restricting behavior because someone is offended or may be aroused is udder nonsense (forgive the pun). The people who have a problem with this, young men's pants exposing underwear, or "truck nuts," need to stop trying to restrict everyone's ability to express themselves. As we've seen recently, what comes around goes around. Now, this is a two way street. If women want to be equal with men in all categories, I'm all for it. Time to register for selective service or suffer like men do. No student loans, no federal jobs, etc. MSgt Darren VanDerwilt Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:27:41 -0400 2015-08-25T07:27:41-04:00 Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Aug 25 at 2015 9:10 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916451&urlhash=916451 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's time to stop hyper sexulaizing women in America. Why was it ever okay for guys to go shirtless? They have nipples... MSgt Michelle Mondia Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:10:45 -0400 2015-08-25T09:10:45-04:00 Response by 1SG Chris Davis made Aug 25 at 2015 9:35 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916497&urlhash=916497 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Reading through all the comments from my perspective most of you are correct equality is equality, pervs will be pervs, and immature dudes will be just that immature.<br /><br />As i am not a religious man, I can state that this is where most of your not so equality will come from:<br /> <br />Genesis 2:25 Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame. after partaking in the forbidden fruit Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.<br /><br />Religion will always play a factor in in-equality from the easiest going to the most strict of religious groups and their interpretation of the scriptures. <br /><br />As i am not trying to strike a nerve with anyone, this is just a perspective that i had not seen demonstrated so far in this discussion. 1SG Chris Davis Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:35:51 -0400 2015-08-25T09:35:51-04:00 Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made Aug 25 at 2015 9:42 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916505&urlhash=916505 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Where did we did we get this idea that knights were some how respectful of women? It doesn't seem that way historically. Chivalry had a great deal to do with fighting wars than it did with how to treat people. A courteous person is one who has respect for themselves which carries over to manners and politeness. These things are often what we observe as missing in contemporary culture. Likely because techknowledgy has made direct interaction awkward. The less we interact as a society the less we learn how to adapt to each other needs. Its almost scary. MSgt Michelle Mondia Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:42:04 -0400 2015-08-25T09:42:04-04:00 Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 10:19 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916586&urlhash=916586 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm all for equality, however I'd rather see more shirts and less skin. Not because I'm super prudish, but I'm tired of people taking their shirts off just to get attention. I know that isn't everybody, but there is a time and a place to be shirtless.<br />*Break Break*<br />I don't think the individuals pushing for this are thinking about the second and third order effects that this will cause. The group of people fighting for this equality is the same group that in the 90s was enforcing that a woman's chest is sexual in nature and therefore afforded special protection. Think about it. Staring at a women's chest could no longer be considered "pervy" or sexual harassment. Hanging up pictures of bare chested women would no longer be considered a hostile work environment. Commenting on a woman's chest would be the equivalent of discussing a man's. Touching a woman's breast would no longer be considered sexual assault. MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:19:58 -0400 2015-08-25T10:19:58-04:00 Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Aug 25 at 2015 10:52 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916660&urlhash=916660 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is pretty ridiculous CPT Aaron Kletzing Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:52:52 -0400 2015-08-25T10:52:52-04:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:05 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=916954&urlhash=916954 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They want mens jobs but when the titanic goes down they sure as shit still want to be the 1st ones on the lifeboat...<br /><br />EO isn't about EO its about a political way of gaining a leg up... SSG Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:05:02 -0400 2015-08-25T13:05:02-04:00 Response by TSgt Ryan Lee made Aug 25 at 2015 2:01 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=917177&urlhash=917177 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not sure how many of you have had the opportunity to live in Europe (Germany)? There are the sauna's and spa's there where everyone goes (Co-ed) and when you want to go inside one of the sauna rooms, you take off your robe and are completely naked, you also take off your flip-flops. You take your towel inside unless it is a steam room and you sit on it with also enough for your feet too. This is a norm in most European countries, I loved going to these places (not for the view because some of them were not very pleasing) but for the pure pleasure of enjoying the relaxing atmosphere. My wife is German, she says to me that if this sort of thing was more of a normal thing in the states where people are afraid to show anything and anything sexual is considered taboo besides in Europe it is accepted, we would probably have less predator's and sex crimes in my and her opinion. Now to be outside everyone and topless or naked, even in very liberal countries like Germany they do not allow it, I think it would just create chaos and car wrecks. TSgt Ryan Lee Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:01:07 -0400 2015-08-25T14:01:07-04:00 Response by SPC David S. made Aug 25 at 2015 2:32 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=917263&urlhash=917263 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think its funny how we are devolving. Having traveled to many places where they go topless at the beach I don't see this as a problem. Nipples on men are a remnant from our early development in utero. For the first several weeks a developing embryo follows a "female blueprint," from reproductive organs to nipples. Only after about 60 days does the hormone testosterone kick in (for those of us with a Y chromosome), changing the genetic activity of cells in the genitals and brain. But by then the mammary papillae aren't going anywhere. SPC David S. Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:32:14 -0400 2015-08-25T14:32:14-04:00 Response by PO2 Nick Burke made Aug 25 at 2015 7:54 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=918046&urlhash=918046 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Here at Great Lakes RTC they made it equal...... NO topless. Not even to change shirts.<br />Political correctness to the Nth degree. PO2 Nick Burke Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:54:17 -0400 2015-08-25T19:54:17-04:00 Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Aug 25 at 2015 9:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=918250&urlhash=918250 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Never would I buy into this being acceptable. This is disrespectful to God, women and men. MAJ David Vermillion Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:31:34 -0400 2015-08-25T21:31:34-04:00 Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 10:43 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=918396&urlhash=918396 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Put a shirt on men then too. Equality. If you open the door it will continue to open and then there are issues if someone took a photo, innocently or not, and was that person if age? Did they consent to being in the background just by being there or is there privacy laws? Just put a shirt on guys. LTC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:43:34 -0400 2015-08-25T22:43:34-04:00 Response by SSG Ronald Williams made Aug 26 at 2015 4:16 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=919985&urlhash=919985 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What "equality" advocates fail to consider is that men and women are "wired" differently. Women should be treated and rewarded equally, there is no argument there. The majority of men, whether by design or evolution, are far more visually stimulated than women. Do women have the right to go topless, sure. Are they prepared for the consequences, no. You also have women that complain that men treat them as sexual objects and they are not taken seriously. I don't think they would be running out to go topless anytime soon. Equal rights yes, but men and women will NEVER be equal physically, emotionally, sexually because they ARE NOT equal in those respects, there are indisputable differences. SSG Ronald Williams Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:16:05 -0400 2015-08-26T16:16:05-04:00 Response by SFC Joseph James made Aug 27 at 2015 1:14 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=920993&urlhash=920993 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What's wrong with breasts anyway? I like them, Lesbians like them, babies like them. Breasts are universally loved! We should have a National Topless Day! Show 'em if you Got 'em! lol SFC Joseph James Thu, 27 Aug 2015 01:14:24 -0400 2015-08-27T01:14:24-04:00 Response by CDR Michael Goldschmidt made Aug 27 at 2015 8:56 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=921397&urlhash=921397 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>People just need to get over this. There was a time when showing an ankle was considered obscene. CDR Michael Goldschmidt Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:56:03 -0400 2015-08-27T08:56:03-04:00 Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 27 at 2015 11:54 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=921831&urlhash=921831 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am a 44 aaaa. MAJ Ken Landgren Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:54:40 -0400 2015-08-27T11:54:40-04:00 Response by SSG Ronald Williams made Aug 27 at 2015 12:41 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=922019&urlhash=922019 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How many of these protesters are married or mothers? I doubt very many are family oriented. What would be your response to your wife, mother or daughter? SSG Ronald Williams Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:41:59 -0400 2015-08-27T12:41:59-04:00 Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Aug 27 at 2015 12:53 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=922074&urlhash=922074 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The only real issue I can see with it is that because of the massive amount of immaturity that men have there would be way too much ogling at those women who chose to go topless. There are far too many vulgar and immature comments already in general, how much more if women go topless. PO1 Glenn Boucher Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:53:57 -0400 2015-08-27T12:53:57-04:00 Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2015 2:52 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=922480&urlhash=922480 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-57581"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Ftopless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Topless+equality+for+Males+and+Females%3B+Do+you+think+this+should+actually+be+considered%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Ftopless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ATopless equality for Males and Females; Do you think this should actually be considered?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="4403dab5b636e08b83ad800465eb5b0f" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/057/581/for_gallery_v2/69c5f2d1.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/057/581/large_v3/69c5f2d1.jpg" alt="69c5f2d1" /></a></div></div>Why not? They've changed the restrooms in some places already. What the he'll next? MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:52:39 -0400 2015-08-27T14:52:39-04:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2015 2:53 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=922481&urlhash=922481 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, apply the rules equally to both sexes. Once people get used to it, no one will care. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:53:05 -0400 2015-08-27T14:53:05-04:00 Response by SSG James Arlington made Aug 27 at 2015 3:03 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=922506&urlhash=922506 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Some men shouldn't be topless! Get a manssier, dude. SSG James Arlington Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:03:03 -0400 2015-08-27T15:03:03-04:00 Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 6:50 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1006966&urlhash=1006966 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>why not we throw every other moral out the window MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 30 Sep 2015 18:50:44 -0400 2015-09-30T18:50:44-04:00 Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Dec 6 at 2015 1:43 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1154869&urlhash=1154869 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nothing wrong with mammary glands. MAJ Ken Landgren Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:43:55 -0500 2015-12-06T13:43:55-05:00 Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Dec 6 at 2015 2:07 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1154939&urlhash=1154939 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When you get to be my age, you want to cover it up. my wife feels the same way. Get over it guys/gals, it would create an insurance nightmare, between the normal safety precautions going to the winds just because someone's boobs are hanging out in the open. Under the right venues, I very much appreciate the thought. MCPO Roger Collins Sun, 06 Dec 2015 14:07:59 -0500 2015-12-06T14:07:59-05:00 Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Dec 6 at 2015 2:49 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1155008&urlhash=1155008 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Morality is subjective to oneself, but in my opinion, there is no morality left in the world anymore. SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres Sun, 06 Dec 2015 14:49:21 -0500 2015-12-06T14:49:21-05:00 Response by MSgt Bj Jones made Dec 6 at 2015 3:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1155087&urlhash=1155087 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When my husband jokingly says he&#39;s ready to go when he isn&#39;t decently dressed, I tell him he is NOT going out like that. When he asks me why, I reply, &quot;We&#39;re not terrorists.&quot; I do believe some modesty is needed, though I get the idea of equality. There was one time I was in a car with my husband and our friend&#39;s teenage son. The teen was driving, and we were in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. I saw some people walking around and said, &quot;Hey, look at all the topless people!&quot; At that, my husband and the young man whipped their heads around asking, &quot;Where!?&quot; I said, &quot;There&quot; pointing out the window at some guys walking around with no shirts on. No, I prefer to stay covered up. It&#39;s more fun that way. MSgt Bj Jones Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:31:23 -0500 2015-12-06T15:31:23-05:00 Response by SGT Dana Williams made Dec 6 at 2015 3:43 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1155112&urlhash=1155112 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We apparently are now living in a world where &quot;common&quot; is prohibited! Common decency, common courtesy, and common sense! SGT Dana Williams Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:43:07 -0500 2015-12-06T15:43:07-05:00 Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2015 11:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1156129&urlhash=1156129 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />I don't think it's a good idea, I think it would interfere with day to day operations. CPT Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 06 Dec 2015 23:42:23 -0500 2015-12-06T23:42:23-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2015 12:37 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1156239&urlhash=1156239 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What about those gender neutral troops? Where do they fit in? SFC Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 07 Dec 2015 00:37:21 -0500 2015-12-07T00:37:21-05:00 Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Dec 7 at 2015 12:55 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1156262&urlhash=1156262 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Most people of any sex look better with clothes on. If we are going to change the rules we should make everyone wear a shirt. SGT Jerrold Pesz Mon, 07 Dec 2015 00:55:43 -0500 2015-12-07T00:55:43-05:00 Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2015 8:51 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1156655&urlhash=1156655 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes going topless is a great idea. SARCASM! Not! <br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2794312/advert-featuring-woman-s-breasts-causes-500-accidents-day-moscow-s-distracted-male-drivers.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2794312/advert-featuring-woman-s-breasts-causes-500-accidents-day-moscow-s-distracted-male-drivers.html</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/031/306/qrc/1413388007687_wps_150_Pic_shows_This_ad_campaig.jpg?1449496241"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2794312/advert-featuring-woman-s-breasts-causes-500-accidents-day-moscow-s-distracted-male-drivers.html">Advert featuring woman’s breasts causes 500 road accidents in Moscow</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">As the trucks trundled around the streets of the Russian capital, they left a trail of carnage as male drivers became so distracted they ploughed straight into each other.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CPT Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 07 Dec 2015 08:51:18 -0500 2015-12-07T08:51:18-05:00 Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Dec 7 at 2015 6:14 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1157974&urlhash=1157974 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="201593" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/201593-msgt-curtis-ellis">MSgt Curtis Ellis</a> You wouldn't want to see me with my shirt off LTC Bink Romanick Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:14:02 -0500 2015-12-07T18:14:02-05:00 Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2016 5:40 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1467946&urlhash=1467946 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Humans are animals too. We are the only animals that use something manufactured to cover ourselves. If the laws were to change, for a woman to walk around topless would be considered taboo by our generation and the next few generations to follow. But just like anything else, as time goes by, it would become more acceptable and less taboo. The sexual nature of a woman's breasts are because we make them sexual. Personally, I wouldn't mind it changing. Yes, I may become aroused around some topless women, others not so much. How do you think women feel around topless men? I can assure you, that some men, especially those who take excellent care of themselves and spend a respectable amount of time in guy, are found to be very arousing to some women (and even some other men). Women however have a greater ability to be discrete when they are aroused, and therefore, we don't know how taboo even men walking around topless can really be. PO2 Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 21 Apr 2016 05:40:50 -0400 2016-04-21T05:40:50-04:00 Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2016 6:24 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=1467972&urlhash=1467972 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Punishment and Public/Social acceptance are two separate sides of the same coin. The government should not punish women for being topless. Laws should be applied equally.... Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 21 Apr 2016 06:24:33 -0400 2016-04-21T06:24:33-04:00 Response by SSG Jeffrey Monk made Oct 3 at 2017 6:09 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/topless-equality-for-males-and-females-do-you-think-this-should-actually-be-considered?n=2968010&urlhash=2968010 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess this is where my actions and ideas don&#39;t match. I feel a woman should be able to go top less but I&#39;d kick my daughter&#39;s behind if she tried it at home. Mine are the only boobs to be seen around the house. I was not ready for her to become a teenager. SSG Jeffrey Monk Tue, 03 Oct 2017 18:09:01 -0400 2017-10-03T18:09:01-04:00 2015-08-24T11:44:06-04:00