Transgender service members serving openly what are your thoughts?

SSG Darren Haynes — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:32:29 -0400

The other day my wife working as a civilian contractor had gone to VI Office on post for a visit with employees with her boss when one of the employees showed them a DA photo of a soldier who is transitioning from male to female. Soldier was wearing make-up but was still in the male uniform. His name had been legally changed and his re-assignment was not complete should she have worn the female uniform?

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jun 13 at 2015 9:44 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:44:39 -0400

Or ANY uniform?

It is difficult for me to come to terms with all of this. It seems to me that serving in the military is a privilege, not a right. We serve(d) to fulfill the needs of the military, not our own personal needs.

Just what legitimate military need calls for having soldiers with mental issues?

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Jun 13 at 2015 9:45 AM

Capt Richard I P. — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:45:02 -0400

There's a plethora of these topics already. I'd merge but I'm on mobile. this 'problem' is easily solved by true equality and uniformity, in pt standards, in performance, uniform and grooming standards.

Response by CAPT Gary Foster made Jun 13 at 2015 9:56 AM

CAPT Gary Foster — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 09:56:16 -0400

We used to be a force to be reckoned with. Now we don't even know the sex of the person serving beside us. To answer your question, hell no. He should be out-processed for wasting valuable time and energy of training to fight and defend. Who is paying for the change, Tricare, ACA? Why should my tax dollars be used for this if this is the case? Is this person making the change on government time or personal time? It better not be government time. There is enough waste and abuse of tax dollars the way it is. Now back to this transgender crap. Many will argue that it shouldn't matter, I say it does. Put a person who used to be a male in a shower full of women or a person who used to be a woman in a shower full of men, and let those instincts they were born with kick in. That could be the crime of voyeurism or perversion if you think about it. You can have all the plastic surgery and hormone treatments you want. You are still whatever God intended you to be. If we are so big on accepting transgender personnel, then why don't we save the military and the taxpayers a whole bunch of money and just make the military one big commune where there are no separate restrooms or bunk areas? God help us. We are a sick society.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2015 10:19 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:19:17 -0400

The Soldier in this case should have been discharged under current regulations governing gender dysphoria.
Until or unless the rules and regulations are changed, we are all required to adhere to them.
Soldiers know this when they join.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jun 13 at 2015 12:04 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:04:45 -0400

It's happening whether one likes it or not and it won't stop there.

The National Anthem will soon officially be replaced with "I've Got to Be Me." at a date and time to be determined.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2015 12:05 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:05:54 -0400

I won't give my opinion (so don't assume). What I will say is, there is nothing any of us can do about the rules change. So why does any of our OPINIONS matter. Save my life in battle and we're cool!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2015 1:11 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:11:44 -0400

Which latrine do they use? Which PT standards do they use? Which barracks do you house them in? Or what if you are a man in the Infantry with a ranger tab and change to a woman. Do you get to stay Infantry? How about the opposite? You are a woman and change to a man. Is the Infantry now open to you? Things that make you go hmmmmm.....

Response by CPO Bernie Penkin made Jun 13 at 2015 1:39 PM

CPO Bernie Penkin — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:39:30 -0400

I read an interesting aricle recently. Talked about why Johns Hopkins stopped performing the surgery. This article was published in. Religious magazine, but was written from a clinical perspective. It basically stated that the problems faced by a pre-op person did not go away after the surgery. If anything they got worse.
http://www.firstthings.com/article/2004/11/surgical-sex

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jun 13 at 2015 8:36 PM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:36:47 -0400

Dear God, is this really an issue?

Response by SSG Thomas Brousseau made Jun 13 at 2015 11:11 PM

SSG Thomas Brousseau — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 23:11:44 -0400

Enough already with the social experments. All of the PC Social experiments are nothing but an unnecessary distraction that doesn't belong in the United States Military.

Response by SN Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2015 11:23 PM

SN Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 23:23:03 -0400

There are millions of Americans that ate sitting on their lazy asses at home but you choose to make fun and dehumaniz you brothers and sisters just because you don't like the way they live. They will gladly take a bullet for you because they are your sisters and brothers. That is one reason the military has gone down hill because they spend too much time hating on their siblings Rather loving and caring for them.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2015 2:41 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 14 Jun 2015 02:41:02 -0400

yes she should have but that's not how the regulations read right now sadly. its the same story with me being open transgender as well

Response by SSG John Erny made Jun 14 at 2015 2:54 AM

SSG John Erny — Sun, 14 Jun 2015 02:54:01 -0400

OK, so what is the new bleeding heart issue of the day? The left handed lesbian albino spear fishing club? Treating people with respect is fine, but making a special place for every group that might be offended by some other group is idiotic at best. We are humans being, is that not enough? No matter what you do in life their is someone who will damn what you do! Political correctness is poison.
How far do you want to chase the rabbit own the hole. You may not like what you fine when you reach the end of the tunnel.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 10:49 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:49:54 -0400

And that right there is the million dollar question. There is not an answer yet. Only time will tell what the right answer is I don't know. We keep going down these very slippery slopes. How do you handle uniforms, DA photos, PT, Assignments, Address people. Are they a he or a she and when does that change? Should it?

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 30 at 2015 1:01 AM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 01:01:22 -0400

I find it odd that everyone's complaining & questioning who's paying for these medical expenses and when are they going to these appointments, is it really anyone's business? I don't know all of what Tricare covers on something like this but if they cover if, good for them! These transgender soldiers go to work every day just like you & I, they deserve the same benefits everyone else does. Do you go to your appointments during the work day (I'm sure you do), do you hear anyone else bitching because you went to go have your teeth cleaned during duty hours? No, then why complain about their appointments, they're entitled to the same privileges.

Response by MAJ Michael Bressler made Aug 30 at 2015 11:26 AM

MAJ Michael Bressler — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:26:18 -0400

Bring back the draft - the sooner the better!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 30 at 2015 11:39 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:39:26 -0400

Transgender should be held to the standard of their chromosomes. XX or XY, regardless what gender they "feel" they are.

Response by SSG Robert Spina made Aug 30 at 2015 1:50 PM

SSG Robert Spina — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:50:04 -0400

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE WILD

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Aug 30 at 2015 6:39 PM

TSgt Kenneth Ellis — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:39:48 -0400

Is this the hot topic for RP? Has Bruce Jenner made this so cool. there are two genders. And I don't care how so Bozo on Goole says that ther are more than fifty. If a man wants to mutalate himself and have his penis removed he is not brave or courageous. the military is not a place for social experiments. And you cannot change your DNA. And you can not do it from hormone shots, some plastic surgery or two snips to the penis. You know this should not even be an issue.

Response by SSG James Arlington made Aug 30 at 2015 11:55 PM

SSG James Arlington — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:55:09 -0400

If they can kick arse, who cares?

Response by CPL Christian Bengel made Oct 20 at 2015 6:10 PM

CPL Christian Bengel — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:10:25 -0400

I think all of this homosexuality creates a huge distraction and another avenue for EEO complaints. The fact that homosexuals serve in the military is fine, it just needs to be a non-issue, which of course isn't because they make it out to be some sort of badge of honor. Quite frankly, the military is a combat oriented profession that shouldn't have to deal with so many social issues. Come out of the closet after you leave.