Transition Assistance Program (TAP). What are your opinions? Both positive and negative feedback is appreciated.

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Response by PO3 Daniel Smith made Jun 17 at 2015 10:16 AM

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I went through the TAP in 2011 just before the change on curriculum. Looking for thoughts on whether there still needs to be improvements made, and if so what.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jun 17 at 2015 4:21 PM

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Mine was probably a little different than yours for 2 reasons: I was in the Navy and I was retiring. However, it was a very useful program and definitely helped me prepare for civilian world by getting ready for the workforce, making me aware of veteran's benefits, everything. All in all I had a positive experience in TAP.

Response by PO1 Charles Norris made Jun 24 at 2015 12:05 PM

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TAP delivers what you put into it. I've seen folks try to complete the req's in a week or less and then complain about it but I've seen folks try and complete the req's in a year and do as little as possible and complain. I've seen folks complete the req's in 3 days or a year and say they loved it and enjoyed it immensly.

I retired in 2006 and so the program was/is radically different now than it was then. When I went through TAP it was optional. Now it is a requirement as a part of the transition process. If you want a lot out of it, go through the classes twice if you can as well as attend ANY optional classes they may offer. Take advantage of the counselors knowledge and advice. Not all of them are good counselors so don't be afraid to see a different one. Try to get a retiree counselor if you can.

The biggest issue I see is commands don't enforce the requirement to go. Folks show up with a month or two left and then are left scrambling to try and get everything done all while staying commited to the commands mission. If the military cared about you and what you need they wouldn't ask for your SSN every time. Now is not the time for you to worry about making them mad. Use the TAP process and put a lot into it and you will get a lot out. I don't say it that way to seem like I am down n the military. I am not. But too often military members forget to worry about themselves POST-military career. TAP is meant to help you and they can't help unless you want the help and ask for the help.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Jun 24 at 2015 12:12 PM

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I went through TAP in 2012 as I was getting ready to retire in 2013, it provided a great deal of information to me on my VA benefits and everything I was able to take advantage of from a veterans aspect. The classes on "job hunting" and resume building/writing were a bit helpful, but probably could have used a bit of "punching up" to be more effective; they also could probably have a done a better service to those seeking employment by having a job fair or bringing some/more prospective employers to meet with those undergoing the program. All in all it was not a bad program, like has been said in prior posts, you get out of it what you put into it.

Response by SSG Douglas Espinosa made Jun 24 at 2015 12:16 PM

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When I transitioned it wasn't all that great. The resume classes that I thought at the time were helpful actually helped me produce a horrible one. But I do have to say the VA portion was informative. I was told that they made a lot of changes to the program shortly after I got out and that people are getting great stuff out of it now. But no matter what the program is like. You only get out of it what you put in to it. So, with that being said, don't just sit there and go through the motions. Be pro-active, ask questions.

Response by TSgt Matthew McElroy, aPHR made Jun 24 at 2015 12:23 PM

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Well, being an Air Force guy stationed at an Army Post and went through the Navy's "TAP" briefing, it was interesting to say the least. As with any type of training or briefing, there were both good and bad things about it. Some of the things they kept referring us to our particular service for answers as not everything was cut and dry. The VA briefings, resume writing, etc. were useful though. In my opinion, everyone should try to go at least twice before they leave the military....maybe once about a year and half from leaving, then another time right before leaving.

Response by SSG Jocephus Duckworth made Jun 24 at 2015 12:55 PM

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I think it a secured GS job for those who work for the T.A.P program. Getting a job after military service is all about who you know.

Response by Cpl James Lindsay made Jun 24 at 2015 1:00 PM

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Horrible. Not a whole lot of information was given during the session I was in (2007) at Camp Pendleton

Response by TSgt Kevin Buccola made Jun 24 at 2015 1:02 PM

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it depends on the base you are located. i was at Keesler AFB and I thought TAP was very informative - I also thought it was too long as well. More time was spent on VA benefits which is fine but again too long. More emphasis needs to be on resume writing, how to change military terms to civilian terms.

Response by SFC Jerry Shaw made Jun 24 at 2015 1:30 PM

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I went through it, not real happy about it. At the time I thought it was a complete waist of my time, however they did teach me to talk and act like a civilian. I must admit after 20 + active duty, that was hard to do.

Response by PO1 Robert "Gus" Lint made Jun 24 at 2015 1:45 PM

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When I was at SIMA Norfolk I used TAP to go to Tidewater JC. I was going to change career paths when I retired. I ended up not completing my AA as I moved back to my state of record before it expired.

Response by SFC Derrick Beggs made Jun 24 at 2015 2:02 PM

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Unfortunately in 2012/13 the DOL made changes to the program that has impacted the way organizations interact with the TAP. This change has adversely affected the service members and their future. Hopefully someone in the DOL will realize how big of a mistake it actually was and take corrective action to change the program

Response by CWO3 Bryan Luciani made Jun 24 at 2015 2:35 PM

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TAP works for many people and my biggest positive is that it's better than nothing. It takes time to prepare for "the outside", especially if you are retiring. TAP should be provided 9-12 months from separation and not 1 month like mine was. I did get alot of info from TAP (though about 75% was uselsss) but it failed to cover the critical job seeking methods/venues that I had to discover (and it took some time) on my own. It also failed to cover the importance of networking and the best places to "get your foot in the door". Military understand military. Civilians think we're gorillas. We need to really understand this and TAP should emphasize this. Granted this was a few years ago and today's product ought to be much improved. I sure hope it is.

Response by TSgt Richard Adams made Jun 24 at 2015 2:40 PM

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Its useless they just give you very little info and half the time it's inaccurate. The civilians at JB-MDL talk down to the military members unless you stand up to them. So if your there and about to retire or separate from the military from JB-MDL make sure you never take them for their word.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2015 3:01 PM

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I did mine in late 2014 for a medical retirement. It was informative, and I can see where it would be a huge help for those that joined at 18 and have done 20+ years of service. I got a decent resume that was further worked at the WTB. But it was 40 hours that could have been distilled down into 10 easy for me.

Response by SFC Rodrick Carter made Jun 24 at 2015 3:36 PM

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I completed the TAP or Army Career Alumni Program (ACAP) in Bamberg Germnay. I enjoyed the program and I explored every possible option when it came to transitioning from Soldier to Civilian. I was extremely enthusiastic because I had spent most of my adult life in the Army. I think that it depends on how much you put into it. If you dont put anything in then you can't take anything out.

Response by SGT William Wolfe made Jun 24 at 2015 4:05 PM

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If the TAP program actually had businesses that would hire individuals immediately after separation that would be helpful. I went to all the job fairs the resume writing courses and classes. I finally decided that I was not going to get a job because I was not civilian smart.

Response by CMSgt Lloyd French made Jun 24 at 2015 4:13 PM

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TAP is geared to all service members; therefore, it has components that apply to one more so than another. When you come to the table, they have to feed you the whole meal...even if you're only there to snack. I recommend attending TAP twice...yes...TWICE. Attend about 2 years before you plan to separate...pay attention and prepare (especially your medical records)...then attend one last time about 6 months out from your date of separation. The VA benefits are important...especially if you earn a >30% disability or a >50% disability. The resume writing is important, but I recommend you go to a County or State-funded site to get focused training on that. No single resume will work for every job...always tailor your resume to the job for which you are applying. Then practice your interviewing techniques. Almost every job starts with a phone interview...be AT YOUR COMPUTER when you do one...GOOGLE and your computer can save the day. This is so important, there isn't enough bandwidth on RallyPoint to do it justice.

Response by SFC Jose Rivas made Jun 24 at 2015 4:22 PM

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I use to be a transition assistance advisor for the state of Texas. The TAP is a good starting point for those transitioning to the civilian life. Every state has a transition assistance advisor. Google skyline ULTD, and click on transition assistance and you will see every advisor for your state.

Response by COL David McClean made Jun 24 at 2015 4:32 PM

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Currently TAP is just shy of adequate. TAP should begin when you enlist - the service should always be grooming you to become a civilian. Sharing information during a 1-2 week training is simply not giving the service member the best possible opportunity to succeed. Unless of course, they are offered employment after the training.

Response by SMSgt William Tate made Jun 24 at 2015 4:34 PM

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I am sure it has to help when I retired ther was no assistance and I had a hard time finding a job even with 20 yrs of electronics experience

Response by CPL Richard Flagg made Jun 24 at 2015 4:48 PM

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I am glad that there is a Transition Assistance Program today; because it sure didn't seem like there was one when I was in the VA's Chapter 31 program 20 plus years ago in college. Pretty much it was us Vets helping each other out that was what really helped you.

Response by CMSgt Gerald Potten made Jun 24 at 2015 4:48 PM

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I went through the TAP program at Davis Monthan AFB in 2004. I though it was very informative . I payed a professional to write my resume, some one who was an expert in translating military careers. I got hired 4 days after i retired and have been with the same company the last 10 years . I did a little research and studying on my own about how to interview because i had never interviewed for a job in my life until i retired. TAP is good but i think practice and educating yourself on how to interview will greatly increase chance of success.

Response by CW2 John Brookins made Jun 24 at 2015 5:06 PM

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I went through a couple of times. The twice at Ft. Carson. The first time was in 1998. TAPS wasn't much then. I wasn't impressed. The last time was in 2010 and it was greatly improved. The best aspect were the guest speakers. People from real companies that can give you some incite into how companies really hire. It was still a bit too long though.

Response by COL Bob Ulin made Jun 24 at 2015 5:09 PM

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When I retired many years ago, there was no such thing as TAP. The programs today while good are limited by the fact they are trying to satisfy E-3's to field grade officers. If you try to be everything to everybody you end being nothing meaningful to anybody. In my experience as a senior executive of companies and nonprofits, you find the best people through your network of friends and colleagues. Consider this, research suggests that sending resumes accounts for only 1 success in 1000, whereas referrals account for 1 in 7. The key to landing a good job is building a network of friends, associates and business leaders. People hire people, not resumes.

Response by PO1 Mark Moore made Jun 24 at 2015 5:29 PM

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I took advantage of the Tuition Assistance Program to attend college after sea duty as a USNR(TAR). I attended 5 years of college with it, and earned a BA while on active duty. I had 10 years service, a PN1, and was even interviewd for an Officers Program. I decided to move on to attend a Masters Program with a full scholarship, and used my Vietnam-era GI Bill benefits as well. Navy Tuition Assistance made the difference in my life, and I am always grateful for it. I wanted to teach college, so later in life I attened an MFA program with another full scholarship, and now I am teaching full time. I suport it 100%.

Response by CWO5 Patrick Mills made Jun 24 at 2015 5:43 PM

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Everyone provides valid statements and arguments. Resume translation/writing needs to be something that is taught while your in TAPS. SMART Transcripts or now Joint Services Transcript ( https://jst.doded.mil/smart/signIn.do) is a good starting point to find out all of your military jobs you have held and to see what skills you need to translate into civilian terms. The career fairs are nice, but most of them are designed for the servicemember who will remain in the duty station area. Please pay attention to your VA benefit counseling. A lot of times we are too proud to ask for or accept the compensation we rate because we don't want anyone to look down on us. When we are older collection social security we will have wished we weren'n too proud.

Response by SFC Larry Jones made Jun 24 at 2015 5:45 PM

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Quite valuable.

Response by SCPO William H. made Jun 24 at 2015 5:47 PM

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TAP fulfills the requirement (puts check in box). It doesn't really prepare you for the ups and downs of the civilian job market. We come from a place where honor, integrity, and valor really mean something. Alas - this is not true in the civilian market.
To get something out of TAP - really depends on how aggressive you are. You also have to go beyond what is presented in class and change your mindset. I always get the feeling people are under the misinterpretation they are owed some form of special treatment for transitioning from the military into civilian life. Although it would be nice - and would have helped me a bit in the beginning - I learned much more by doing it on my own and figuring out real fast the civilian job market is cut throat and you have to sell yourself in and on so many levels.
You can easily be told you have a job with (company name here). The day you start - you show up in a suit and tie ready for orientation...and...you find out you don't have that job - because someone in HR pulled your name and slapped in a friend of a friends whose wife was a church members of another acquaintances completely incompetent college dropout son to do a job you busted your butt get. So there.
I think a lot of ex-military also don't understand when you take that uniform off for the last time - you are no longer in the military and no one really cares what you did, who you were, or what your rank was. Sure you'll get a passing "Thanks for your service" but it really doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes down to brass tacks.
What is important is - how effective you are at your new job, how quickly can you do it with as few mistakes as possible, and how well you get along with management.

Sorry - you may not like my assessment. Just something to consider when you are moving on to a new life.

Response by SGT Kristin Myers made Jun 24 at 2015 6:18 PM

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I went through TAP at Ft. Hood. A lot of the information was informative. Depending on what your civilian career path is going to be, it can be very helpful. The road prior to my military career paved my path after ETS so some of the information did not pertain to me. You get what you put into it. This is not a "check the block" class. It is preparing you for transition.

Response by PO2 Maxwell Jones made Jun 24 at 2015 6:27 PM

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It had it's good and bad points in 2008. One part basically was about how to dress for an interview, which would have been helpful if I was interviewing for an executive or management position. After several unsuccessful, and finally one successful interview within the same organization, I found that the way I presented myself in interview made it clear that I was clearly over-qualified for the jobs I was applying for and that management did not want to hire a short term replacement for themselves. I was intending on attending college (and did), and the VA representative did not know anything really about the Montgomery GI bill (current at the time) or the proposed Post 9/11 GI Bill (went into affect one year later). The Norfolk VA TAP class/program seemed more geared toward junior officers separating from the military vice enlisted personnel with some sort of specialty. In regard to finding jobs in the civilian sector, the answer essentially was "Networking" or head-hunters, with little to no explanation as to what "Networking" was, other than to throw out a buzz word and call it good. No reference was made to online job searches. All focus was on how to write a paper resume, and none on how to write an online resume. Feedback on the resume I did have basically was to leave out all information pertaining to my actual career field, and fill my resume with buzz words that would fit into a middle management interview. There was some financial planning talk, but it was tailored to those going onto government jobs, with little or no discussion of how to roll the Thrift Savings Plan into a 401K without tax penalty (luckily Edward Jones was knowledgeable on the topic). While a student, I was unaware of a 5 year medical/health care benefit that I had until I was in my 4th year of college, during which I had no health insurance that I was aware of. I kept getting told that I needed to get the VA to document any disability prior to separation, but no explanation on how to go about it. It wasn't until 3 years after separation that I was able to get that clarification and got paperwork in order. I kept getting told that I was required to take classes X months out, and again x months out, at a minimum with recommendation for a third course. What I was actually allowed to attend was one class the week before my separation. For the most part, the class was a waste of time which provided a lot of information with little to none of it being overly relevant.

Response by SrA Rex Brown made Jun 24 at 2015 6:38 PM

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When I separated there was no TAP. It was basically "thank you and have a good life." So if this program does help out individuals then by all means do so. With my MOS I was told repeatedly that I was overqualified for many positions. I made my own transition by making contacts with a lot of people that my parents new and just moving on from there. It wasn't easy but I did it. My biggest problem was when I wanted to use my GI bill to get a degree I got the run around from the college and from the government on using it so I gave up and just went to work.

Response by SGT Mark Rhodes made Jun 24 at 2015 7:45 PM

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I wished I would have taken advantage of some of these programs like VRE for one. So if you are just know coming out or very soon research this benefits and take advantage of what you can use.

Response by PO3 Benjamin Long made Jun 24 at 2015 8:11 PM

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For the Navy, but granted this was in 2009, TAP was one more useless retention tool to try and scare young guys into re enlisting. It did nothing to assist in resume building, however unemployment stats for veterans were very well highlighted. I really overlooked TAP as one more check box that I had to go through, and since I had no intent to go into LE after getting out, that I would have to go retrain anyway. In general, from Guam to outprocessing at San Diego, I was pretty much thrown to the wolves because I was getting out. My advice would be- have a solid plan BEFORE you get out(college, employment, etc) locate and purchase a copy of Resume Writing for Dummies, and let TAP in one ear and out the other. They're only trying to scare you into re-upping.

Response by PO3 Crystal Conner made Jun 24 at 2015 9:22 PM

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When I took TAPs it seemed somewhat pointless at first. However, they made us create accounts on LinkedIn, and helping us word our jobs in a way that would be understood by civilian employee seekers. So this account that I did not care much about ended up catching the eye of a Google recruiter. Now I have a great job working at Google, all because of a requirement in TAPs class.

Response by SGT Kenneth Duncan made Jun 24 at 2015 10:46 PM

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When I got out I applied at the Post Office. I was hired several months after. They told me that I met all of the qualifications to be hired. I learned different things from other veterans that worked for the post office. I was retired with 20 years after I hit an elk while riding my motorcycle to work. If you work for the government, check with personel to get your military time added to your civilian time. I served 9 years in the Army and had just gone over 11 years at the post office. I retired with 20 years after paying $4000.00 to add my military time to my post office time. And I just paid off my house on 80 acres.

Response by SFC Malvin Espinosa made Jun 24 at 2015 11:05 PM

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My problem with transition services is that transition shouldnt end upon separation after retiring it took me years to completely transition and no services were available, va is beuracratic and on post none

Response by SGT Robert Gomez made Jun 25 at 2015 12:40 AM

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So my experience with TAP was a mixed bag. I only received a week for this program and for the most part, felt way too rushed. I don't discount the information that was provided AND the fact that they tie into the VA fairly well.

Response by PO2 Nicola Davis made Jun 25 at 2015 12:51 AM

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Make sure u get all ur va stuff done before u get out and when u ready to get out apply for vocational rehabilitation program it will help with education and also provide everything u need for school and give u some income to help out

Response by LCpl Scott Harper made Jun 25 at 2015 12:58 AM

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I think there should be a class for people that want to be there and learn and a seperate class for people that just need a signature in a box in their checkout sheet

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jun 25 at 2015 1:05 AM

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TAP is just one wedge of the pie. From what I've gleaned from officers who attended and then wound up getting mentored by me after hours was it can be good about basic mechanics of job seeking, resume writing, and where to apply. After that, it got thin on the how's, why's, gotchas, and land mine avoidance. Then again, to cover more of the pie would probably be cost and resource prohibitive.

Bottom line, use all your resources.

Response by SN C. J. Brown III made Jun 25 at 2015 3:53 AM

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Response by SSgt Christon Blair made Jun 25 at 2015 4:17 AM

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TAPS does a good job explaining the benefits and VA system but I found it to be lacking in the resume writing portion. I think it would be great if it were possible to pair up vets with people still in and have them offer advice. If you could match them to the industry it would be more helpful than a general format. I know plenty of vets that would be willing to read and help people refine their resumes, offer real career advice, salary expectations etc. Realizing that what is a must in one industry might get your resume burned in another and it isn't sufficient to just say "but it will depend on what your field". It's just a thought.

Response by PO1 Andrew White made Jun 25 at 2015 8:38 AM

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I found it to be very informative and effective. As another responder said, it depends on the base and the facilitators having representatives from hiring companies come in and talk.
My last duty station was NAS Patuxent River, MD. Anyone familiar with Pax, knows that it is heavily populated with Gov't and defense contractors. They had a panel of reps from several companies come in on the last day and speak to us about what a company wants to see on a resume, interview makers and breakers, etc. Many took resumes on the spot, a few folks got informal interviews on the spot and later hired.
Pax is one of those bases that guys (myself included) take orders to on their last enlistment because of the prospect of rolling right into a job as you walk out the door.

Response by Col Larry Yates made Jun 25 at 2015 8:54 AM

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I was at a geographically separated location from our main support base. Unfortunately I received very little information or help from the TAP process. Had I known then what I now know, there would have been a much greater effort on my part to work with the program. I believe this may be a true statement for many. I believe that there should have been an extremely strong push by the TAP to involve individuals and push the registration into the VA system. It should have been accomplished with the VA there registering individuals! Now I face the almost impossible task of trying to register and get through all of the nuances that have placed in front of the veteran to discourage them.

Response by PO1 J R Foster made Jun 25 at 2015 9:50 AM

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For me, the TAP class was a week well spent. The best thing I got out of it was a professional looking resume that I still use and update to this day. I have had compliments on it from people who know what a good resume is supposed to look like. I did my TAP class in Bremerton, Washington right before I retired. Perhaps different locations (bases) have differing programs. I just know that the one I went to at Naval Base Kitsap, was very helpful! I would recommend it to anyone separating from the service.

Response by Sgt Timothy Apel made Jun 25 at 2015 9:53 AM

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Meh, For me, TAP was pretty much a waste of time. Maybe it has changed in the past ten years, but when I went the 22 year old LCPL was sitting next to the 45 LtCol listening to the same discussion about resume prepping, etc. There should be two programs, one for retirees which focuses on utilizing their military experience in the civilian world; and another for the single term guys. The latter could focus on college applications, trade schools and things which would directly benefit them.

Response by SGT Stanley Bass made Jun 25 at 2015 10:55 AM

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I have both fields covered. I got a lot out of TAP, it was informative, what it does not tell you is how cut throat it can be in the Civilian Sector. My problem was my MOS 71L (admin), even though the qualifications for jobs state for example, the applicant needs to be able to type 30 words per minute (WPM). I could type 60 wpm. the people typing 75-90 got the jobs. My other problem was the follow up interviews that TAP did not prepare me for or tell me about. As i did interviews for other jobs, I did get better. But knowing about the follow up interviews could have helped prepare me more. Guess i should have known when at the beginning of my out processing, one of the instructor's said he would tell us exactly what each of us was worth in the Civilian Sector. After a week the answer was "As much as you can get."

Response by SSG Jeffrey Brady made Jun 25 at 2015 11:49 AM

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TAP was around when I got out. The issue I found out was if I continued the same career path the job opportunity was slim to none. So, I had to start over from the ground up and that's where TAP failed me. Taking all my skills and putting them into a "generic" resume was not something they could do at that time. They were very apt at tailoring your prior experience to the same career field. But, if you were starting over you were on your own.

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Jun 25 at 2015 12:09 PM

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When i separated in 2009 Tap was a joke and complete waste of time. The family support center had Boeing come in, when the HR rep came in he promptly told us there were no state side jobs at all. The unemployment office came in simply told us how much we would make and that we had to look for 3 jobs a week but only apply for jobs that gave you the same income or more than you make right then. For me that was over $20 an hour with maxed out E5 pay including BAS and BAH. The VA did come in but just told us to apply for benefits making it sound like we had to do it alone.

It wasn't until i got my current job working at the Washington State Department of Veterans Affairs as a Vet Corps Navigator that i actually learned what i should have in 09. I learned that there are people in the DAV, American Legion, Order of the Purple Heart, and others, that are there for no other reason than to help vets complete there benefits claim to make sure they are done right and help you claim everything. I also learned that there was a thing called HUD-VASH and SSVF to help with homeless veterans. County Veterans offices to help with food vouchers, bus passes, clothes, legal assistance, and more. That you could go to a Veterans run farm, fly fishing, horse riding, kayaking, or go to Vet Centers, and church groups for help with PTS counseling or help instead of just the VA Medical Centers.

I do know that TAPS was forced to change and I hear the TAPS program out of Joint Base Lewis/McCord is decent but it could be a lot better. Veteran Service Organizations should come out but not only to say "join us" but to let people know that members of lets say the VFW can get one bill payed every 6 months if needed and it is voted and passed by the post. That if you are going to college apply for there scholarships. That if you received a purple heart you can join the Order of the Purple Heart which like the American Legion and DAV have service officers that can help you complete your disability claim. Also hold a job fair once every few months so troops getting out can get an idea of the jobs that are available in the area before the decide to just go back to there home of record. And lastly let the troops know to go to the VA Medical Center in the area after they receive their DD-214 so they can get their VA ID card which they will need for to use the VA Medical Centers for FREE medical care for the first 5 years after separation even before a disability claim has been sent.

Response by PO1 Chad Alcock made Jun 25 at 2015 1:46 PM

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As a Career Counselor specifically for veteran I see the gamut of what TAP can do. It comes down to how well that particular class was taught. I personally had an amazing class about 3 years ago. Others I know are not so much. It's more hit the wickets and get out. Whether this is because the class itself was not effective or the service member simply did not pay attention, who knows. Being "civilian smart" takes effort. One of the things I spend the most time on is editing resumes to make them more civilian friendly, no military jargon or acronyms. We all know the military loves those. When you get to where your going after exiting the military it is a good idea to go to your local AJC, Called WorkSource her in Oregon, and ask to speak to the veteran representative. They can help you to adapt to the civilian work world.

Response by PO3 Deon Heggins made Jun 25 at 2015 3:39 PM

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Honestly TAPS did nothing for me. They had no useful information to help me find a job, locate housing or help with VA. Especially when dealing with people who are coming from overseas, they are no help. I think they need to hire Veterans who have first hand knowledge when dealing with seprations.

Response by LCpl Steve Smith made Jun 25 at 2015 6:56 PM

2015-06-25T18:56:34-04:00

I EAS'd in 95 and TAP was still pretty new 1 or 2 yrs old. So they were still working out what worked and what didn't. We were given a book that had a drawing of what each branch in general translated to in the "Real World" Air Force of course had Pilot and other Aeronautic jobs, Navy Nuclear engineering and other types of jobs, Army Transportation related fields and the Corps Law Enforcement or Security...lol and one of the few things we got told in TAP was to go get business cards and have your Resume and or job skills printed on the back and try to get into one of the city brunches meeting for local businesses. Nothing on the other important "how do I really Transition into Civilian Life, (i.e. That you have to say could you, would you, please and Thank you.) that trying not to use words like Fuck as every other word while talking (it is harder for some to stop doing that lol) that your normal every day expression to you and other military vets is looking like you are pissed off and about to rip someone a new asshole to a Civilians. That speaking in the usual cut and dry tone of voice to us is like Barking, Yelling at, or that you are pissed to a civilian. Or That one of the biggest things was that you can not expect civilian workers to have the same work ethic We do. lol But I do hear TAP has gotten better at informing the soon to be EAS Personal. lol

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Jun 26 at 2015 7:36 AM

2015-06-26T07:36:35-04:00

I can personally say that TAP helped me a great deal. The most important piece of information I got was how to write a federal resume, and also, all the VA information that was passed along. Retirement/seperation is a HUGE change, and the longer you've been in, the harder it is. I would take any help offered!

Response by Maj Van Roberts made Jun 30 at 2015 3:06 PM

2015-06-30T15:06:07-04:00

The Transition Assistance Program (TAP) I went through in 2011 was outstanding! I do believe the program has standard/mandatory parts and parts that can change depending where or who conducts the course. I recommend going through the course at least 12-18 months before you separate or retire.

Response by SSgt Brad Broussard made Jun 30 at 2015 3:47 PM

2015-06-30T15:47:01-04:00

The TAP program is one of the worst programs available to the US Soldier. I had the obligatory check the block course while departing the US Army @ Ft. Bragg and once again at Fort Jackson. I had the opportunity to be involved with the civilian sector prior to enlisting and I had already acquired the skills they were attempting to teach soldiers. But I went with an open mind. The tap program is highly antiquated. The instructor had obviously not been "out there" in a while. They did help with how to build a resume. That is about the extent of the help the soldiers received. The job fairs consisted of "invited" businesses that were friendly with the US military. There were only salaried 9 to 5 jobs there that were some how tied to the government. Selling benefits not pay. No sales or private sector type jobs. If you had a clearance you were good, if not you were out of luck. The job fairs seemed very contrived. Lastly, the 2 times that I have been apart of TAP like programs, once in the Marines and once in the Army, it seemed the instructor had a vested interest in where the Soldiers and Marines worked. In one case, at Fort Jackson the instructor was a professional recruiter and would not allow outside private sector recruiters in to hire. That seemed odd and a conflict of interest. I honestly believe that one must have the soldiers best interests at heart and not be an administrator just waiting for their time to end to receive their second retirement.

Response by MAJ Bill Maynard made Jun 30 at 2015 5:05 PM

2015-06-30T17:05:48-04:00

My TAP was mostly positive. I think the biggest area of concern for most retiring servicemembers who aren't 60 is next career / employment. This area was not given enough emphasis and was too basic. Perhaps if TAP had two different categories: one for retirees and one for separating service members.

Response by COL Robert Davies made Jun 30 at 2015 9:29 PM

2015-06-30T21:29:00-04:00

In my particular case it did me very little good. I went through it about four times. Fort Stewart took it as a VERY big joke. Just DAMN reservists in a post 9/11 mob. Might have spent 45 minutes as we were de-mobing after a year. The same amount of time after the second year. Fort Gordon went through some of the motions. After I retired at 9 years and trying to get post 9/11 GI Bill they did the least they could. NTC did not bother at the 6 year mark. Fort Sam did not have the time to bother. Fort Hood at least went through the motions and tried but did not have much to work with. An O-6 with 27 plus years and too many pedigrees do not entire potential employers. After 4 1/2 years I still do not have a paying job, which is why I am fully-retired.

The only part that was helpful was 180 days of Tri-Care, but could have been better. $1000 a month for medical because I retired before age 60 is ridiculous.

Response by CPO Norman Mauldin made Jun 30 at 2015 10:44 PM

2015-06-30T22:44:01-04:00

I believe this was one of the most important classes prior to retirement from the service. The Veterans Service Officers that were present were extremely helpful. I had a few problems converting military terminology to civilian terminology (I guess 22 yrs will do that to you). Joining a veterans organization helped as most there had already had to deal with those issues.
Now my wife who was a YN1 for 20 years already had a handle on most of it. (as she had to conduct interviews for GS positions).

Response by PO1 Scott Cottrell made Jul 1 at 2015 5:00 PM

2015-07-01T17:00:19-04:00

The class I went through, almost 8 years ago, in Key West. Helped with resume writing and finding contacts. But for a week long class, they ran a little long.

Response by PO1 Eric Spurlock made Jul 7 at 2015 10:14 AM

2015-07-07T10:14:53-04:00

Other than getting a few days away from the unit, it was a waste of time. I lost out on some benefits through the VA because deadlines weren't discussed. The majority of people separating aren't going to white collar jobs and talking about where you should buy dress shirts and ties isn't needed. Discussions about benefits through the VA (medical, education, insurance..) is what should be presented.
I am now a academic advisior at a college and education or training opportunities should be discussed more.

Response by CPT Shane D. Metz made Jul 7 at 2015 7:56 PM

2015-07-07T19:56:36-04:00

I attended TAP in Mar of 2013 and Retired in Sept of 2013...TAP provided me a basic foundation to get started and was very helpful in allowing me to understand my benefits. I attended 2-3 Job fairs and Networking events monthly and traveled to events as required. BUT the Resume they taught us was subpar and I attended a class outside of the military on Interviewing, Resume building and Career search techniques and found a job in less than three weeks after taking the courses.

Response by SSG Ronalda Frank made Jul 8 at 2015 11:26 PM

2015-07-08T23:26:34-04:00

I was located in Fort Polk, Louisiana. TAP was very informative, we were taught everything from VA Benefits to Unemployment Insurance. Transitioning from the military to civilian life was still difficult because of the lack of structure, and discipline in the civilian life. Most soldiers, and sailors require time to adjust to the change in the structure of civilian life even with TAP.

Response by CPO Michael Callegri made Jul 14 at 2015 3:52 PM

2015-07-14T15:52:52-04:00

Everything that has been said and good and accurate. I also think that members that have transitioned should be invited to speak to give some reality to a lot of what's being said. Everything that is taught is good, but is not always realistic. I believe you should leave and be ready to set some realistic goals.

Response by PO1 Kevin Riley made Aug 6 at 2015 11:59 PM

2015-08-06T23:59:57-04:00

I did not like it. At all. It did not help me in any aspect. Practically, at the time when I got out. No one understood any of the aspects of the TAP Program in October 1993. I am still very disappointed in the program.
It was a lot of promise made, but not real policies backing the early out TAP program except unemployment insurance.

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2016-03-29T19:31:36-04:00

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