Trump says that Bowe Bergdahl should have been executed for what he did. What does RP think?

2015-10-08T20:20:30-04:00

Donald Trump feels that Bergdahl should be executed for leaving his post. I am wondering what y'all think.

http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/10/08/donald-trump-says-bowe-bergdahl-should-have-been-executed/73616286/

Donald Trump says Bowe Bergdahl should have been executed

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump said Thursday that Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl should have been executed for leaving his post in Afghanistan.

Response by LTC Kevin B. made Oct 8 at 2015 8:22 PM

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Based on what I've read about his case, execution is not warranted. You'd expect it to be a slam dunk case for a death penalty to be implemented. I think there are too many unanswered questions to call it a slam dunk case.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Oct 8 at 2015 8:23 PM

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SGM Steve Wettstein My guess is that previous RP discussions have been about 35 % in favor of his execution.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Oct 8 at 2015 8:31 PM

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I think Mr. Trump doesn't believe in Due Process based on his comments thus far.

Regardless of our "gut" and what "we think" everyone has the Right to Due Process, and both WE and the PRESIDENT are sworn to the Constitution of the United States of America.

We've already lost one President because he thought the rules didn't apply to him. You don't get to go with your gut on matters of Justice. You go with the Constitution and the Justice System(s) (including the UCMJ).

On this case, Mr. Trump is wrong.

Sgt. Bergdahl may deserve to executed for his transgressions. But he deserves Due Process FIRST. Mr. Trump is bypassing that. And the Senior member of the Executive Branch. The COMMANDER IN CHIEF, CANNOT, and SHOULD NOT, ever do that.

He's WRONG. Ethically WRONG. Morally WRONG. CONSTITUTIONALLY WRONG.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Oct 8 at 2015 8:39 PM

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If Obama has his way he would get a medal. I just want to see him dishonorable discharge. And he get none if his back pay.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 8:39 PM

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Executed...no. Life in prison with a few beatings...yeah okay.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Oct 8 at 2015 8:44 PM

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He was walking 19 miles in hostel territory to report a crime. Has he ever heard of a phone, email? Do we want someone that dumb handling a weapon?

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Oct 8 at 2015 9:10 PM

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SGM Steve Wettstein based on what I have read of the investigation by MG Dahl, Bergdahl seems delusional. I am not sure that execution is appropriate under those circumstances.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 9:26 PM

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That would be a big Negatory Ghost Rider!

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Oct 8 at 2015 9:28 PM

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Trump says what attracts attention only, and leaving your post applies to being on guard duty. Bergdahl walked away from his fire base, which I find interesting that no one saw him leave; I am grateful that the Taliban did not know about that path. There is more to this.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 9:33 PM

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I don't think an execution would be warranted, but he still needs to be punished for what he did.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Oct 8 at 2015 10:24 PM

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Trump and anyone else who never served in the U.S. Armed Forces shouldn't fix his or her mouth to speak about executing anybody. If we were back in the cold war era World War II to be exact, this soldier would definitely be executed.

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Oct 8 at 2015 11:55 PM

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To Mr. Trump's thoughts, I could give a flying rat's-back less: He holds no credibility in military issues. In reviewing Bergdahl's case, I think we are looking at the first layer of a very ugly onion. However, an execution would only serve to elevate an already unfortunate funeral pyre.

By the way, one of the best, thought-provoking questions I've read in a while. Thanks, SGM Steve Wettstein!

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Oct 9 at 2015 12:14 AM

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I think the man is a mental case, and that the nut doesn't fall very far from the tree.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Oct 9 at 2015 3:36 AM

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IF Bergdahl is proven guilty in a court martial then yes, as I believe the crime he is ACCUSED of is punishable by death under the UCMJ.

I use very specific language because while I am entitled to my opinion (as we all are), and my opinion is that he is guilty, that is not for me to decide since I'm not a judge or member of the jury.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Oct 9 at 2015 6:49 AM

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Bergdahl has some explaining to do. I do not condone his behavior nor do I believe he should be executed. He should not be allowed to continue any service or receive any compensation. The fact is he left his post before properly relieved as others have expressed. If he wanted to report issues in his unit the chain of command and IG is at his disposal. That being said I know people who paid the ultimate sacrifice to look for this individual and he must atone for his behavior or lack of. In regards to Mr. Trump all people are entitled to their freedom of speech as we fight for all of them.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Oct 9 at 2015 6:51 AM

2015-10-09T06:51:02-04:00

Since Trump is not in the chain of command or involved in the investigation he can render any opinion he likes. It is just that, an opinion. Bergdahl is scum of the highest order. Trump is connecting with the visceral dislike of cowards/deserters/traitors to the country.

The one thing that seems to be getting avoided here is due process. There is a move afoot to try to get Bergdahl off so Obama will not be embarrassed for releasing 5 Taliban leaders for him. There are families of people that died looking for this asshole that deserve some closure too.

The delay in getting this to trial tells you all you need to know. There is no more evidence to be found this is delay for political purposes.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Oct 9 at 2015 6:56 AM

2015-10-09T06:56:39-04:00

I could care less about what Trump says... & who am I am to pass judgement on Bergdahl?? The Army has given him a fair hearing. He is their problem & I trust the Army JAG to do the right thing for this guy..

Response by SrA Christine Martinez made Oct 9 at 2015 7:19 AM

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When Western Journalism asked their readers if Bowe Bergdahl should be court-martialed in August 2014, my response was: "Yes, Bowe Bergdahl should be court-martialed. He had a commitment to the United States Army, his Unit, and the people of Afghanistan*. He wasn't "ashamed of his country", or a conscientious objector when he signed his name on his Enlistment papers, only when it became convenient, and as an opportunist, he looked for a time to walk away. That's really the gist of it: HE WALKED AWAY!! He went into an Afghanistan village LOOKING for Taliban members so he could go with them. Because of his VOLUNTARY ACTIONS, he was NEVER declared a Prisoner of War (POW), and he doesn't deserve the honor and respect of that title. He was, is, and always will be a coward, and the 'wee wiggles' from his daddy that streamed down [Bowe's] mama's legs, were far more honorable than Bowe will ever be."
Now you (SGM Steve Wettstein) report that [Donald] Trump says Bowe should be executed for what he did, and you ask RP the same question.
Regardless of what Trump says, I say "Yes!"
I believe that Bowe is guilty of Desertion, which isn't defined as *leaving your post only applies if it's 'guard duty'* as someone earlier stated. 'Leaving your post' is leaving the point of assignment where one's primary duty/duties are expected to be performed, without the proper authorization and relief.
He's also guilty of being a traitor, and should be charged and convicted of complicity with the enemy based on his intent and accomplishment of "giving intelligence to the enemy, in violation of the laws of war". Bowe intended to make himself a valuable tool to the Taliban in Afghanistan, and offered to provide the members with current intelligence regarding troops strength and locations -- his unit was actually preparing to depart their forward operating base (FOB) the day that Bowe sneaked out of his quarters/tent, and crossed the wire that separated the U.S. Army from the Afghan community -- as well as teach them about the unit maneuvers and self-defense measures his fellow soldiers would engage in.
Due to his disappearance, his unit could not depart as planned, and there were several weeks of searching conducted by his unit members and the U.S. Army. Weeks of searching around the clock, in scorching desert sand and blistering temperatures; searching that would've been completely unnecessary if Bowe had remained with his unit.
It's been reported that there were several deaths (5 or 6 I think) that were attributed to the search and attempted rescue of Bowe while he was in the Taliban's custody in Afghanistan and Pakistan; I think it was '60 Minutes' who did an expose with soldiers from Bowe's unit regarding those failed operations and subsequent deaths. Knowing that the military (as a whole) long-ago adopted the custom of 'no man left behind', I'm far more inclined to believe the reports of soldiers who were there, than the DoD.
We can believe from Bowe's superiors that he was mentally unstable, and if he did indeed serve with the U.S. Coast Guard, and was discharged due to mental illness, the Army should NOT have accepted him as a recruit. If those allegations can be substantiated, I would encourage the families of the soldiers who reportedly died looking for Bowe to sue the U.S. Army.
A little more than the simple answer you were probably looking for, but it's my opinion, and explanation thereof.
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Response by SGT William Howell made Oct 9 at 2015 7:44 AM

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Trump's opinion only supports mine. Trump is an ass clown.

I have more faith in the Military Court System than any other in the United States. Whatever decision they make will be the right one.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 8:23 AM

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for me? he should be guilty of treason. but ... what my opinion worth anyway in his case?

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Oct 9 at 2015 8:24 AM

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SGM, I'm torn on this. On one side, I feel he should be put down like a rabid dog, being six other troops died looking for him. An eye for an eye. On the other side, it's more complex being that we swore never to leave a fallen comrade. In that, we recognize that we are willing to put our lives on the line to save another. Liking this person isn't a qualifier. So those six troopers didn't die in vain, they died doing what they were supposed to do. What any of us would also do.
I'm not really paying Trump any mind. His mouth makes debts he knows his a** CAN cash, so he doesn't worry about backlash or lawsuits. Not to mention He should change his middle name to Deferred. Not like he ever served or even tried to. If I need advice from Trump it's be strictly on business. He's the SME on that.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Oct 9 at 2015 9:10 AM

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SGM Steve Wettstein - Bergdahl should be court-martialed and, if found guilty, be subjected to the punishment recommended by the members and approved by the convening/approval authority.

My personal belief is that execution is not warranted in this case. A very long prison sentence is more appropriate. Executions for desertion were meant dissuade military members from deserting, which was a major issue in times past. That is not the case now, as it is infinitely more dangerous to be away from your unit than to be with it under the conditions our troops now find themselves in. I doubt we will ever see executions for desertion again.

The Misbehavior Before the Enemy charge is interesting and has not been used in a very long time. If a death penalty is adjudged, it will be for that.

Response by SGT Francis Wright made Oct 9 at 2015 9:31 AM

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I think that if it is true; that Bergdahl did it many times, then why did his team mates think it was funny? They should have reported it, given him a blanket party; because that place is no joke and he put everyone still risk. He is a Disloyal Bastard; that brought discredit upon himself, his unit, the military, and our country. He is a Traitor.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Oct 9 at 2015 10:00 AM

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I think he should receive a fair trial, I think all mitigating evidence should be presented, to include the death and injury of those that were sent to search for him.
And then then after the trial, if he is found guilty an appropriate punishment should be decided upon by the jury...
Hanging is fine
Lethal injection is ok
Firing squad works
Repatriate him to his chosen homeland of Afghanistan works, with a do not interfere order for all US military, and an understanding his has been stripped of his citizenship and to be considered either a non combatant or target depending on his actions in his new home country

Response by SPC David S. made Oct 9 at 2015 10:24 AM

2015-10-09T10:24:24-04:00

While he's entitled to his opinion last I checked Trump didn't go to law school - Bergdahl is subject to the provisions under UCMJ. Just more brash and abrasive rhetoric from a guy running for president.

Response by SSG Ricardo Marcial made Oct 9 at 2015 10:33 AM

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SGT Bergdahl will likely not get any jail time from what I have read. If you followed this from the beginning it was clear this soldier has experience several trauma of some sort, beating, starvation, likely raped over the years he was held, who knows what else. The prosecution is not challenging some of the finding based on testimony from doctors and debriefs after his return to US hands. Is he guilty of leaving his post, yes but that's where it ends. I doubt he will get jail time, he will require medical / mental help for the rest of his life and going to jail and being dishonorably discharged will change that. I don't think the entire picture of the "why" he left will ever be released, so without the history of "why" he did it being available this will never be understood. I'm not saying I agree with his acts, but the consequences of his act are clear, torture at the hands of the enemy and now the possibility of spending another part of his life in another cell and the thought of confinement will be another strain on his mental state. The jail will need a 24/7 suicide watch on him.

As for the "Hair Piece" comments, well not worth the time of day to really put an effort reply.

Response by SSG James Arlington made Oct 9 at 2015 10:53 AM

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What, like ISIS does?

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Oct 9 at 2015 11:15 AM

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This is hyperbole. We will never see capital punishment any more. Look up the stats, its an empty threat. As evidenced by, this POS. Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 11:15 AM

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Absolutely

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 11:22 AM

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I think he should receive the maximum punishment of his registered state. Mine is Texas, so I hope he is a Texan by citizenship.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 12:59 PM

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SGM Steve Wettstein, Trump is no different than any of us. He doesn't have all the facts and is blowing smoke saying things he knows is what we want to hear. He's only on this bandwagon because, once again, it draws attention to him. When he mentions anything about Vets, I know he's blowing smoke on that too. He knows nothing about the military, real family life, and the bible. Yet, he will tell you he knows about all of those. Pfffft!

Response by CH (CPT) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 1:42 PM

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I don't know enough about the Bergdahl situation to comment, but I would say that this is clearly another example of Trump putting on "The Trump Show" for the media. Clearly they gobbled it up on cue. I'm still baffled at the number of people who love the guy.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 1:46 PM

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I think execution may be a little overboard. Just MHO

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 1:55 PM

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Call me crazy, however I like the fact that he is going to stand trial and that the rantings of Politicians really don't matter.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Oct 9 at 2015 2:40 PM

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Trump is just whoring for more support and Bergdahl is just another tool to be used.
In my opinion Bergdahl is guilty but his defense team is going to use mental issues and a poor chain of command, and then of course his heinous treatment as a prisoner while being held by the Taliban to get some sympathy and support.
In my opinion I do think that President Obama will pardon Bergdahl when he is convicted, and yes I say when convicted because in my opinion I feel he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Oct 9 at 2015 3:08 PM

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A trial as scribed by the UCMJ, is what is called for in this incident. If found guilty the punishment will be handed down accordingly. If found innocent released.

Response by SPC Luis Mendez made Oct 9 at 2015 4:09 PM

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Mr. DT is mainly and above all things a Business PRIMA DONNA. He may have a point though! What we need to look at First and Foremost is what does the Constitution says. And this is what it says in: Article III section III Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of 2 Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 4:11 PM

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WTF does Trump know about military law? He never served in uniform a day in his life and dodged the draft. LOSER

Response by A1C Allen Forbes made Oct 9 at 2015 4:38 PM

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The only thing that burns me up about this whole issue is the fact we negotiated with terrorist. That was the first step that has put the U.S. looking weak in the eyes of other nations. Especially to Putin. Give Taliban leaders for soldier who deserted his post. Put other soldiers in harm's way looking for him and later on performing swap in a valley with terrorist on both sides on the hills. No one can actually say what was kin Bergdahl's heart when he left post. Him being executed no because of due process and I don't know all the facts. As far as no one left behind I truly believe that pertains to the soldier who has honor, loyalty and integrity standing side by side with their brothers in arms.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 4:49 PM

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No, he should be doing hard labor for 80 years!! Get Trey Gowdy on that piece of terrorist Muslim sympathizer.

Response by PO1 Michael Fullmer made Oct 9 at 2015 5:51 PM

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Not sure about the death penalty, but a VERY long (like life) prison sentence works for me.

Response by SP5 Martin Matheny made Oct 9 at 2015 6:57 PM

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One full metal jacketed projectile into the temple....45 Cal should do the trick. From: U.S. Army six year active duty soldier from the last century.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 11:02 PM

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I agree he should have been executed he left his post and put his fellow soldiers in jeopardy it could have been worse

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 11:11 PM

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If found guilty with no influence from the administration, the by all means hang the bastard.

Response by CPL Randy Bautista made Oct 10 at 2015 12:44 AM

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Can care less about his opinion because they are just that... I hope he gets hit with the book and if because I don't know the real facts that will hopefully come to light at trial. He should answer for the lives lost looking for him, and if it is his fault he should be put to death.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Oct 10 at 2015 1:10 AM

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For some reason I still believe in the UCMJ, so I defer my reply to it. If found guilty then he should be punished to the limits the UCMJ allows. If I had to give judgement based on my personal opinion, then I'd have him making little rocks out of big rocks for 50yrs.

Response by TSgt Marco McDowell made Oct 10 at 2015 2:58 AM

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I haven't seen anywhere stating his desertion, capture, whatever floats your boat, directly caused the death of anyone via search or normal ops. The truth is only known by him, whatever deity he believes in and his captors. I haven't heard any major propaganda from them concerning this as well. I don't know what demons he was dealing with, if he was a coward, stupid and idealist or made a mistake, but the fact is he was a captive in some form for a very long time. If the facts come out that he conducted himself improperly, then he should receive whatever punishment guided by the UCMJ. Executing a guy because of a perceived dishonor while service members who've murdered others get life sentences is a bit backwards. I don't know him, I don't have access to any information except what is published so I can't judge what he did.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Oct 10 at 2015 6:40 AM

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If I were on the jury at Bergdahl's trial I would want to hear more from the guys in his unit...& learn more about the Patrols that tried to find him & Seals who tried to rescue him because there may be evidence Bergdahl may have tipped off the Taliban about these missions....If that is proven I would go with prison time but not death... But I am just an outsider on this one & never served in the Afghan...

Response by 1LT Aaron Barr made Oct 10 at 2015 8:44 AM

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I agree with him. Desertion in time of war has always been a death penalty offense for reasons easily understood by anybody on this forum. The misbehavior before the enemy charge I interpret as basically treason but lacking the Constitional prerequisite of 2 eyewitnesses to the overt act.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Oct 10 at 2015 10:39 AM

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I think that Mr Trump, just like the rest, are running for office.....
I personally think Bergdahl is guilty, and once convicted, penalty should be severe and permanent.

Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Oct 10 at 2015 11:33 AM

2015-10-10T11:33:17-04:00

If he is found guilty of desertion by a Military court martial; i wholeheartedly agree that he should be executed. Let's send a clear message, that this issue isn't a relaxed one.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2015 12:31 PM

2015-10-10T12:31:04-04:00

Well SGM,
The UCMJ does provide for punishment up to the death penalty for desertion during a time of war. As far as I know though, the U.S. Military has only carried this out once, a young private during the Civil War I believe. As for Bergdahl, I don't see what good execution would do. Especially after trading prisoners to get him back. I don't agree with Trump on this, but I do agree with some other things I've heard him say.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2015 2:49 PM

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Obama should have never traded terrorists for him in the first place. Should have let the terrorists keep him.

Response by LTC Trent Klug made Oct 10 at 2015 3:04 PM

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I'll be satisfied with the results of his Courts-Martial, as long as there's no undue command influence exerted by the Pentagon or the White House. Those two entities have too much vested interest in the outcome. A guilty verdict would be public relations nightmare for the generals who hitched their careers to a certain politician, and said politicians trade bait fiasco.

Response by PO1 Kenneth Cardwell made Oct 10 at 2015 6:44 PM

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He never served in combat or even in a support role. I seen many people not being able to handle life in the Military. Let's be honest Military life is hard sometimes. You never know what's on a person's mind. I have seen people jump from Carriers into the ocean trying to what they say "get away from the Military". I have seen people go AWOL and never to be seen again until like two years later. Military life isn't for everyone.

Response by PO3 Sherry Thornburg made Oct 11 at 2015 1:41 AM

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I think Trump and his flashy headlines are becoming old.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2015 2:21 AM

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I have to agree with Trump on this one. I wouldn't vote for him as President until after I retire, but he is correct.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2015 5:07 AM

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Where are we going to situate the legal parlance "Audi alteram partem" or fair hearing" if Sgt Bergdahl was rashly executed as Donald Trump suggested? It's absolutely not American to administer jungle justice as the Leader of a free world (Great USA).

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Oct 11 at 2015 5:16 AM

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I wasn't aware that "The Donald" is an SME on the UCMJ. Also, was not aware of the fact that he is a member of RP so let's move forward without his input/viewpoint and see what WE think, even if some of the views are the same.
Sgt Bowe Bergdahl should be tried and summarily executed. Let's remember that he DID desert his unit and went to the Taliban. What makes the SGT so important that Obama would trade FIVE of the GITMO detainees for him, 2 of which have resumed their leadership roles in the Taliban? Let's not forget that 5 U.S. soldiers gave their lives in attempts to get him back!
So now, by executive fiat Bergdahl will face only a possible Article 15 and no other punitive actions.
Just what in the world is going on here? Next thing we may hear is that Bowe is on special assignment as a male nanny to the Obama daughters. Just go ahead and send them back to Central Casting from whence they came.
This situation is disappointing on so many levels. Wait and see, in the following weeks it will emerge that Bergdahl is a HERO and not the traitor we all know he is.

Response by LTC Marc King made Oct 11 at 2015 10:27 AM

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Today's news says the Army is recommending no jail time based on time served in captivity. This is a clear twisting of the facts effecting the logical outcome. The Conviening Authority should require the case go to a General Courts Martial and let a board decide both his guilt or innocence as well as any punishment that might be forthcoming. I have enough faith in the UCMJ and it's process to be satisfied with the outcome. I don't not have faith in the Generals who have become political animals to insure their own survival rather than being concerned with good order and discipline in the force. Let the process work, don't shortstop anything just to pander to the politicians. He raised his hand and took the oath without reservation or purpose of evasion. Time for him to man up and for the Chain of Command to grow a pair and do what's right for all who serve or have served.

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Oct 11 at 2015 10:47 AM

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I'm all for the death penalty when it is appropriate, including the pulling the trigger myself as the culmination of the lawful judicial process. However, perhaps we should wait for that culmination before passing judgment ourselves.
Admittedly, I have been guilty of passing premature judgement, and indeed the facts that I have been made aware of suggest that the death penalty may be appropriate.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 11 at 2015 12:09 PM

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I am waiting for Trump to buy a rope, stage, and a horse for Bergdahl.

Response by SPC Chelsea Fernandez made Oct 11 at 2015 12:16 PM

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He is nothing but a bully and don't fully understand what the situation is. Maybe if he spend less time downing everyone in the race, putting reporters down for doing their job, and being an arrogant a**hole and learn the whole story. Just because is one of the wealthiest men in the world doesn't mean he can execute people. He needs to get his facts straight. I do believe that he deserted his unit. There is no doubt in my mind. Donald need to realized this is not the 18th century where you execute people with out due process

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2015 1:38 PM

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I heartily concur.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Oct 11 at 2015 2:16 PM

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Death penalty, no way but some sort of severe punishment is warranted if the facts remain as reported. I really hope that the military does the right thing in this case and does not bow to political pressure from either side of the aisle but have my doubts those officers involved will put justice above their careers.

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Oct 11 at 2015 4:34 PM

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Special Courts-Martial, guilty plea, reduction to E-1, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, to be discharged from the US Army and his discharge should be categorized as a Bad Conduct Discharge.

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Oct 11 at 2015 10:56 PM

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What is Trumps "REAL" military experience again? Just saying...

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2015 2:59 AM

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I'm all for Bergdahl getting his due process. Of course like most everybody here I already have my opinion of his guilt as apposed to his innocence. I would much rather see him rot in prison for the rest of his life and hopefully become somebodies bitch. I think if he is found guilty he should get a maximum amount of punishment allowed by the law. But it sure doesn't look like that is the route the government is taking.

Response by CW3 Eric W. S. made Oct 12 at 2015 11:35 AM

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I honestly think that he should receive more than what is currently being recommended; I also believe that a special court-martial is a little too light, given the circumstances of his actions. The charges put against him by the military. If it is proven that there was misbehavior in front of the enemy, then under that charge, he should be executed.

On a side note, I do not believe that he should have ever been promoted from PFC or SPC. It is my honest opinion that he should be required to return all monies earned from those promotions prior to completion of the court martial.

Response by SPC Andrew Griffin made Oct 12 at 2015 12:07 PM

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I Agree with Trump! I have NO love for Traitors or Deserters! Those who Compromise the SAFETY and SECURITY of others! Just my opinion!

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2015 3:11 PM

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I think Mr. Trump is a cartoon who doesn't understand due process.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2015 4:07 PM

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Most of you here are correct - 1) his actions don't warrant an execution, and 2) it's coming from a presidential candidate, so it's just his opinion (for whatever reason.

I however believe that he should either be executed (easier way out, no pain, saves taxpayer money), or have him in some penal colony for the rest of his life, doing hard labor (sounds more appropriate, so that he would "suffer" more, but spends more taxpayer money). Don't want to propagate unnecessary violence, but I am all for reducing the prison population, one way or another (too much money goes into it, instead of other programs).

Response by COL Ronald Diana made Oct 12 at 2015 7:19 PM

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Most certainly Bergdahl deserves a General Court Marshall. Whether he would receive a death sentence would be up to the court and would be be based on how good the Prosecutor does in presenting his case as well as the elements of proof for each charge. No matter what Trump believes the MCM lays it all out and the military must follow the process unless the prez steps in and kills the whole deal. That action would provide the repubs plenty of ammunition to destroy any of the left's candidates since they will have proven themselves weak on law and order and defense.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2015 7:44 PM

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Hang him high!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2015 10:37 PM

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SGM Steve Wettstein Let's hypothetically say we believe his story about whey he left his post and was subsequently kidnapped. In that case it's an injustice we can't charge him for being unable to understand the repercussions of his actions.

Response by Maj Dave Howell made Oct 12 at 2015 11:01 PM

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As a retiree with some of the facts, but not all, a firing squad would be appropriate punishment.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2015 1:10 AM

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Based on what I have heard of the story, I certainly wouldn't disagree. There are a million ways to be a coward in the military that wouldn't condone a death sentence, what he did isn't one of them. His actions resulted in the death of an indeterminable number of real soldiers. He not only turned his back on his oath, he turned his back on his country. He didn't just go AWOL from basic training, he left a combat zone, deliberately to find the enemy and turn over information. IF you want to say that "he didn't intend to turn-over information" which I personally don't buy, his actions still put him in that position. That being said, he deserves a speedy court-martial.... one that doesn't involve the opinion of the media, or a certain President, and then if half the stuff that has been reported about the incident prove true, he deserves a fast track to the firing-line.

Response by SSG Lon Watson made Oct 13 at 2015 2:17 AM

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I do NOT think a special courts martial is the answer. In view of the fact people died searching for him, I believe a general court martial is the way to go. Then accept whatever penalty the members decide.

Response by SFC A.M. Drake made Oct 13 at 2015 3:31 AM

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Simple for me SGM Wettstein,

He does not deserve the death penalty. Nor is it warranted in this case, he did not give up any national security type secrets (he did not know any to begin with). This is a tough political case in and of itself. No easy answers

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2015 11:12 AM

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Even Bowe Bergdahl deserves his day in court, despite my belief of his guilt.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Oct 13 at 2015 11:16 AM

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I think Trump should shut up and let the military do what it needs to do. He knows nothing about the military.

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Oct 13 at 2015 11:32 AM

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Mr. Trump needs to be careful if you were to be actually elected president it could be seen as unlawful command influence for him to say something so ridiculous.

http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex-assault-comments-unlawful-command-influence-1.225974

Judge: Obama sex assault comments 'unlawful command influence'

Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of “unlawful command influence” derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week, setting the stage for defense attorneys to use the same arguments in sexual assault cases throughout the military.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Oct 13 at 2015 1:12 PM

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He is entitled to his opinion. I think there is a LOT of information that we will never know. There is even more that is half true that we are spoon fed. I think we need to be very careful when talking about execution. From what we do know...or think we know...he should not be able to leave the military with an Honorable discharge.

Response by SFC Dave Wynn made Oct 13 at 2015 1:31 PM

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Not executed but some serious time. But I feel now the military has been drawn into politics. I was in for twenty years and can't remember where a investigation took so long. I believe that all the officers investigating this are succumbing to political pressures. They just want that next promotion. This whole investigation is a shame.

Response by SPC George Rudenko made Oct 13 at 2015 4:10 PM

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It doesn't matter what an individual thinks... it is what (military) law thinks. As this is a very hot topic on RP, there is the gambit of opinion. I've done a lot of law, and one thing I absolutely learned is my opinion doesn't make a shitake bit of difference. What can I "prove" in court?!? Keeping in mind, this is the "recommendation" not the final sentance, there will never be a decision in this case that pleases everyone. Law isn't about pleasing, it is about justice, in fact balanced justice. So, I am going to wait untill all the evidence (that which isn't classified) is made public, then as a reasonable person, evaluate all the evidence AND see how law can be applied. If we are to attain to our first world standard, we have to avoid inquisitions and witch hunts.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2015 5:37 PM

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SGM Steve Wettstein, Life behind bars or some variation of that and reduction to PV1 and forfeiture of all pay and benefits would serve him right. Although there is evidence that supports the fact that personnel died in Combat that otherwise would not have while searching for him does not change the fact that this was a case of delusions of grandeur: “Grandiose delusions or delusions of grandeur are a subtype of delusion that occur in patients suffering from a wide range of mental illnesses, including two-thirds of patients in manic state of bipolar disorder, half of those with schizophrenia, patients with the grandiose subtype of delusional disorder, and a substantial portion of those with substance abuse disorders. GDs are characterized by fantastical beliefs that one is famous, omnipotent, wealthy, or otherwise very powerful.” ~ en.wikipedia.org

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2015 5:40 PM

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isint desertion punishable by death ? I think Trump is finaly right about something here lol

Response by CPT Norman Pickett made Oct 13 at 2015 7:57 PM

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Bergdahl is not the first young soldier to question a mission, go for a walk, and potentially get captured and I doubt he will be the last but that is not a death penalty offense.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Oct 14 at 2015 12:42 AM

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I don't know the facts, but that should be on the table.

Response by SFC Larry Cook made Oct 14 at 2015 9:08 AM

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mr trump has never served his country
so his thoughts do not mean anything

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Oct 14 at 2015 11:55 AM

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You would think that Mr Trump would have learned by now to keep the hyperbole in check. If elected President, he'll have to put on a muzzle and keep his opinions to himself until an active case is decided and placed on his desk. Of course, he may have been misled in this regard by our current President who has a propensity for commenting on matters long before the facts are in. Remember the Harvard professor? The shootings of criminals by the police? The most recent shooting in Oregon where the President arrived to push his anti-gun agenda? Yes, where leaders lead fools may follow...

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Oct 14 at 2015 1:35 PM

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I would never have traded for him. He intentionally walked off his post in a combat zone to make contact with the enemy and we lost several troops looking for him. I would have let the Taliban keep him and they may have spared us the trouble of executing him ourselves.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2015 2:04 PM

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Well seeing as the maximum penalty for Rape according to the UCMJ is also the Death Penalty...which is never used. Maybe the DoD should revert back to some of the "Old School" ways on certain crimes. I guarantee there would be a lot less of the more serious criminal offenses committed.

Response by SrA Marlin Taylor made Oct 14 at 2015 3:41 PM

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He left his post. Nothing else needs to be said. UCMJ says what to do when orders are not followed.

Response by LTC Donell Kelly made Oct 14 at 2015 8:02 PM

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Anyone who listens to Mr. (Four Deferrments for Vietnam) Trump for advice on ANYTHING to do with the military is a fool.

Response by SGT Jim Z. made Oct 14 at 2015 9:25 PM

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One of the few times I actually agree wholeheartedly what Trump says. He deserted his unit in a combat zone, six deaths can attributed to finding his sorry fourth point of contact.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2015 8:58 AM

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Trump, despite having some great potential as a candidate in some respects...is commenting where he doesn't have a right.

Execution is severe. It's designed to ensure repetition is less likely to occur. In a battle-space, the knowledge that desertion can cost you your life may keep someone on the line. It may also result in mutiny.

From the evidence, I don't believe Bergdahl had any intention to defect, aid the enemy, or conduct treachery against the U.S. I do think he was someone who had too high an opinion of himself...too little respect for military discipline...and no respect for the lives of those whose proficiency in all of the above areas compelled them to attempt to "rescue" his sorry hide.

He should be punished-a reasonable jail sentence isn't too harsh. Death would be mis-applied, and set a dangerous precedence.

Response by 1stSgt Sean Frickey made Oct 15 at 2015 10:56 AM

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He should ABSOLUTELY be executed..Treason is treason. He is a discgrace to his family, the uniform and this Country. Instead, we lose 5 guys for his POS ass....Kill him...

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Oct 15 at 2015 12:49 PM

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Calling for vengeance is great for stirring up emotions in an a angry base. I think he would say just about anything to get votes. As for what I think: In this country we have a Constitution, rule of law, and due process. When we ignore those things in favor of vengeance we lower ourselves to the level of the Taliban.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2015 1:44 PM

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I think that Bowe Bergdahl is entitled to a fair trial, and if found guilty should be punished according to the regulations and the UCMJ.

Response by CW3 Jim Norris made Oct 15 at 2015 3:21 PM

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Deserting your post in a war zone, reckless endangerment of your comrades, cowardly conduct before the enemy, providing aid and comfort to the enemy....all of these sound like life sentences or lethal injection charges to me. Now the political reality is that the Joint Chiefs, nor any of the other senior leadership in the Army could stand the political heat of doing so. After all Barrack brought Bowe's mommie and daddy to the White House, so the little bastards will probably be dishonorably discharged and given a 100% VA disability rating. Good men died looking for his sorry ass, he should have never made it through his first helicopter ride.....

Response by SSG John Erny made Oct 15 at 2015 4:24 PM

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I have to wonder if FT Levenworth is a rough as a regular prison? Just sayin'

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2015 6:49 PM

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Mr. Trump is certainly entitled to his opinion, but we should defer to the convening authority and have faith in their ability to make the best judgement whether we like it or not.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 16 at 2015 10:58 AM

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Absolutely. I think that this coward should be shot by firing squad or hung by the neck until dead. His actions directly caused the death of 6 servicemembers in the search for him. He knowingly abandoned his post, he knowingly walked off of the FOB, and none of which was performed under duress from outside influences. His email to his father shortly before the desertion should be the key in the lock to understanding why he did what he did. He was hoping that he would get captured by or be able to link up and join the forces of the Taliban, it's evident in how he talks about America and our "Arrogance". Not to mention the statements made against the United States in further videos. He violated the Code of Conduct. Not accidentally and without knowledge of doing such an action, but blatantly violated article V: "When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause."
He was not under any apparent duress in any videos, he looked to be well fed, to the standards of his captors at the very least. He was compliant and not defiant in his speech or actions. I would rather die than to say the things he said on camera.
In closing, yes. I think that PRIVATE Berghdal, I refuse to recognize this piece of human garbage as neither an NCO or a POW. To do so would discredit and dishonor all NCO's and POW's alike.

Response by SFC Thomas Van Valkenburg made Oct 17 at 2015 9:29 PM

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He deserted his unit and fellow soldiers, what do we do we promote him and make him sound like a hero. And then we slap him on the wrist

Response by MAJ Jim Burke made Oct 18 at 2015 3:12 PM

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Trump is a douchebag, who will finish the job started by the current POTUS out of ignorance. His ego tripping is out of control and will be totally disregarded in the International community. He'll take no responsibility for failures, and likely "Fire" any leadership who become contentious.

Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Oct 20 at 2015 9:58 PM

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He has a point as far as "desertion" and it appears Berdahl provided info to the "enemy".

However I would be satisfied with a BCD, and court order that Bergdahl and his wacko family cannot benefit financially at all from this. Or the proceeds go to veterans orgs, and him go to jail, permanently.

Don't need this poltroon killed and a martyr made of him by fools, eternally. I don't want to hear his name again.

Response by SSG Todd Halverson made Oct 30 at 2015 12:23 PM

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I would leave that up to the powers that be to decide his punishment, not someone running for President and looking for votes.
What needs to happen and what will happen are two different things.
What needs to happen is he needs to be tried by a fair and impartial court martial members. Then based upon the verdict punished according to what the crimes dictate, be it death or life in prison or whatever.
What is more likely going to happen is he will be charged for the crimes, possibly found guilty and then given a soft sentence to help justify the fact that the President made a deal with terrorists. It has been proven that all of the five traded have left Qatar. Some of them have been identified leading ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
Now, do I think he deserves death? No, it would serve no real purpose to kill him. Death for desertion was, when it first started being used, a tool to deter others from deserting. I think he should be locked away and through away the key. That would be a more fair punishment for him. Let him lament over the fact he betrayed his Country, gave intelligence to the enemy and was responsible for members of his unit getting killed looking for him. He is not a POW, because he went willingly looking for them.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 30 at 2015 2:59 PM

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That clown would use decimation.

Response by SGT Charles Bunch made Oct 30 at 2015 11:29 PM

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My answer is yes.

Response by COL Ron Long made Oct 31 at 2015 5:50 PM

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Bergdahl deserves due process like any other accused. The search for the truth may take some time.
Anyone remember in the 1980s Private First Class Garwood? He is often cited as the last verified American POW from the Vietnam War, Garwood was taken to North Vietnam in 1969, and reportedly was released in 1973 along with the other American POWs. However, he did not return to the United States until March 22, 1979. He was convicted on February 5, 1981 of communicating with the enemy and the assault of an American prisoner of war interned in a POW camp. It took several years to bring charges, conduct a courts martial and convict him. Hopefully, justice will eventually be served on Bergdahl.

In my opinion only knowing what I've read or heard from his squad... He should also be held accountable for the deaths of those who died attempting to rescue him.

Response by MSG Tim Gray made Nov 1 at 2015 1:30 AM

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Throat punch after ball punch, then again that would only hurt his vagina

Response by CPO Dennis Johnson made Nov 3 at 2015 4:35 PM

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Death sentence by firing squad!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2015 6:54 PM

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And Donald would know this from his extensive experience in military boarding school, where he was sent to correct his poor behavior?

Response by LTC Marc King made Nov 12 at 2015 11:50 AM

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Its a good start!

Response by CPT Norman Pickett made Nov 19 at 2015 5:27 PM

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Response by PFC Don Palumbo made Nov 26 at 2015 5:18 PM

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Trump is right

Response by SrA Marlin Taylor made Nov 30 at 2015 12:39 PM

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The UCMJ has the process and charges all laid out in print. If it comes to it and he is charged with violation of it, then the full penalties of the UCMJ should be applied to him as to any other Service Member. No exceptions and no leniency should be shown to him just because of his circumstance. But, at the same time, I believe other charges should be brought to him over the men that were hurt and killed along with the wasted time of their search trying to find him the day he walked off his post.

Response by SSgt Koree Copeland made Mar 15 at 2016 6:24 AM

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I think he's a traitor. Pretty simple. Please, make this complicated, we're waiting.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Mar 15 at 2016 6:33 AM

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No. His own actions should be damaging enough.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Mar 15 at 2016 6:39 AM

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Considering Trump has no official position in the chain of command now or ever how could he? Even if elected he would have to insert himself into the trial process to "damage" his chance for a fair trial.

If he were elected I think the Army would have a freer hand to pursue Bergdahl more vigorously than under the current regime. Obama hailed him a hero (remember, he served with honor and distinction) and his family was brought to the White House for their moment in the sun. Talk about impacting the chance for a fair trial. Fair goes both ways. Justice has a blindfold on for a reason. If anything, this administration has kept Bergdahl from facing the full force of military justice which is actually impacting the ability for a "fair" trial. Are you concerned about that side of fair as well?

Response by SSG Ryan Moore made Mar 15 at 2016 7:48 AM

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SFC Private RallyPoint Member Nope, I don't think he's damaging Berdahl's chances of a fair trail and in my person opinion and only a personal opinion, Bergdahl is as guilty as they come. Not to mention that he continues to collect an E-5 paycheck and does not deserve such. He was hailed by President Obama for being a hero and he is a zero! He caused us to lose countless service member lives trying to locate and rescue him not to mention that we released several high ranking members of the AQ in exchange him. What happened to that thought that we don't negotiate with terrorists?? As far as I am concerned, Bergdahl's as guilty as sin! The elections involving Trump and his comments have no impact other than probably upsetting the supporters that believe that Bergdahl is innocent and he never did anything wrong!

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 7:56 AM

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No. Bergdahl has had his 15 minutes of fame and it is time for him to go into a cell and stay... For life

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Mar 15 at 2016 8:31 AM

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No, Obama has already done that; if anything Trump only brings a bit of balance back to a situation that Obama's political interference has already created.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 15 at 2016 8:50 AM

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Yes.

The more Public figures you have calling someone a Traitor before a trial even begins, the harder it is to have a Fair Trial. Add in the fact that he is NOT being tried for TREASON (Actual charges, Misbehavior before the Enemy and Desertion) the harder it becomes to fight the actual charges presented.

Trump (among others) is trying him in the "Court of Public Opinion" as opposed to a "Court of Law" much like most of the members of this Forum have. The Courts Martial has not resolved, and we do not know the full facts of the case. I would pray that none of the people here who have expressed his guilt never served on a CM or in a jury nor ever do.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 9:13 AM

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Since Mr. Trump has no authority over the military and last I heard this was a military trial no.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 10:06 AM

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http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=48816

I posted a question 15 March, that was merged with this question. RP stated they were the same question.

My question was whether Trump is endangering Bergdahl's chance at a fair trial.

This one is asking about RP member's views on the specifics Trump stated 6 months ago.

Were these the same question?

Bergdahl lawyers: Trump attacks damage chances of fair trial

Donald Trump's ideas for punishing Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl include that he

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 12:03 PM

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He should have already had a fair and speedy CM by now. Prez. Obama's Rose Ceremony was entirely idiotic. It violated every prohibition against exercising 'Command Influence' on an ongoing action. Two GO headed investigations had determined he abandoned his post without authority. U.S. Army has to hold the line and conduct the CM. Ten years sounds about right but no sex change operation. Weak, Incompetent, Malingering, Pansy WIMP. If he was 10th Mountain, he was Weak In the Mountain Phase.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Mar 15 at 2016 12:25 PM

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I'm all for doing what the Roman Legion used to do with cowards, shirkers and deserters: They would have the men in his squad beat him to death as an example to the rest of the Legion. After all, THEY were the ones put into danger by him.

Response by PFC Don Palumbo made Mar 18 at 2016 2:25 AM

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I go with the execution. If not that, life in prison with no parole.

Response by 1stSgt Sean Frickey made Mar 24 at 2016 3:23 PM

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He should be executed in PUBLIC and it should be a very slow, painful death. He is a disgrace to America and the uniform. All he did was put his fellow Soldiers in jeoprody as well telling the enemy intel. I can't believe our WORTHLESS President has kissed his tranny ass.... but thats what happens when you have a coward in office who has never worn the uniform......

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2016 1:43 PM

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what is this guys crime? if what he says is true and he was planning on going to next closest FOB then that isn't desertion, its not smart, but its not desertion. If on the other hand he decided to leave and never come back then that is desertion but it is also strong evidence of mental instability (I mean this is Afghanistan not Tahiti or the south of France). In either case, execution is morally wrong. I think a lot of people are just looking for a reason to be pissed off, some of our political leaders have used him as a pawn to discredit other political leaders; but this doesn't take away from the fact that this is a real-life flesh and blood person subject to bad ideas and mistakes just like the rest of us.